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Top 50 Mariner Moments, 2007: #2

July 10th: Word begins to spread that Ichiro and the Mariners agreed on a five-year extension.

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(It's late and I'm not going to do this moment justice, but I can't sleep, so here I am.)

For months, the Seattle Mariners were regarded as little but a temporary placeholder. They were the team whose only question, whose only storyline for 2007 was whether it would trade Ichiro at the deadline or risk "losing him for nothing" in free agency after the season. The possibility of an extension was always mentioned, but never realistically - by and large, it was assumed that the M's would be out of the picture by 2008. And this made us uneasy, because with Ichiro's people not talking, the only voices we had to listen to were the voices telling us that Ichiro was going away.

The Mariners refused to discuss ongoing negotiations, and so with each passing day we grew more and more nervous. Even while the team was winning for the first time in years, we found ourselves keeping an eye towards the future. Was this really going to be our last stand with the most popular player in franchise history? What on earth would the team look like without him? We entered the break both enthralled and uncertain.

Then, on the afternoon of the All Star Game, the always awesome Larry Stone broke the news.

The club is on the verge of locking up Ichiro, its All-Star outfielder whose contract was set to expire after the season, to a five-year contract extension, The Seattle Times has learned. Indications are the deal will approach $100 million and could be announced Friday.

An agreement is said to be imminent. Though it is not yet signed, all sides appear to be in agreement in principle on the parameters of the deal, which would run through the 2012 season.

Maybe it was Hargrove's resignation. Maybe it was the winning. Maybe it was Jason Ellison. Maybe it was all of those things, or none of them. But somehow, some way, Bill Bavasi and the Mariners had convinced Ichiro to stick around. And for us - while we kind of got an inkling that the team's success might help make up his mind, it still came as a total surprise and a magnificent relief. The drama was over. This guy was all ours.

It's funny. Ordinarily, whenever the M's make a move, the first thing we all do is look at what they paid. But Ichiro transcended all that. There was hardly any discussion about the size of his contract, because the fact that he just had a contract was enough, and the rest was secondary. You can argue the dollars and years for someone like Carlos Silva or Jarrod Washburn, because if you fall short of landing either guy, you can just go find a capable substitute somewhere else. But there is no replacement for Ichiro. Maybe you could approximate what he contributes on the field, but in terms of the overall package, no one comes close to providing the same experience. This is a guy that no Mariners fan was prepared to live without, and that was made abundantly clear once we got word of the extension.

I don't mean to suggest, however, that the extension was a little too rich. That's probably the funniest thing about the whole deal. We rip on the Mariners all the time for badly overpaying the players they want, but then when they go and give the biggest contract in the history of the organization, they're right on the money. You don't even have to listen to the people who justify the price by talking about all the extra revenue Ichiro brings the team; the price is justifiable based solely on Ichiro's production. He's a top-5 center fielder who plays good defense and carries an unblemished track record of health. He's worth the contract. No matter what Dave Samson says. (And I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why we should ever care about what Dave Samson has to say ever.)

An afternoon that was initially one of rest from a wild summer almost instantly became an afternoon of celebration. At last a substantial weight had been lifted from our backs, and we were able to focus on what was turning into a promising season. And what better way to cap the day off than by watching Ichiro go 3-3 in the All Star Game with an inside-the-parker and an MVP award? Jeanne Zelasko asked him in the postgame ceremony how he felt, and hinted to the crowd that he could sign with San Francisco as a free agent. Ichiro laughed. And we laughed along with him, because for the first time in as long as he'd been a Mariner, we knew exactly what Ichiro was thinking.

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Okay, I'm drawing a blank.
I was 99.9% sure this was the #1 moment of 2007, but that can't be now.

What could it be?  The Mariners being competitive for the first time in years?  The team telling Pythagoras to go to hell with his theorum?  Felix nearly no hitting the Red Sox, busting up Daisuke Matsuzaka's home debut?  JJ Putz being awesome for the second year in a row when we all thought he'd regress badly?

INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW!

I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Mar 23, 2008 4:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Oops, I just realized it could be related
to this one.  How about Ichiro showing the entire world that he's fucking awesome by owning the god damned All Star Game?
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF @ Lookout Landing on Mar 23, 2008 4:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's gotta be King Felix
owning the Sox and beating Dice-K during his home debut.  
Everybody Scores!

by edgar2010 on Mar 23, 2008 5:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Guess:
Manny Ramirez strikes out looking on a fastball down the pipe, bottom 7 in Fenway Park, April 12(?)th.

by Graham MacAree on Mar 23, 2008 6:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm...
I'm going with Youkilis strikes out swinging to cap off Felix's complete game 1-hitter, April 11th (had to look that up).

by ThundaPC on Mar 23, 2008 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I got the date wrong :(
I just think the K of Manny was better because at that point Felix was 6 outs away from a no-hitter. I was shaking as I watched.

by Graham MacAree on Mar 23, 2008 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, that's a good point.
The idea of no-hitting the Red Sox on their turf is nothing short of euphoric!

by ThundaPC on Mar 23, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is Ichiro really the most popular player
in franchise history?  I mean, the M's may not have had the best luck in the postseason, but in the not so distant past you guys have had some SPECTACULAR players.  Randy Johnson, Ken Griffey Jr. and Edgar Martinez being names that spring immediately to mind.  (A-Rod did too, but I have the impression that even if he was popular in Seattle at one time, that's kinda faded now.)
*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Mar 23, 2008 7:12 AM PDT reply actions  

And on that note, I completely forgot that it was
Ken Griffey Jr. who fielded that ITP and threw it to the plate.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Mar 23, 2008 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm...
RJ's career took off after the M's dumped him. But Griffey remains the icon of my childhood dreams of baseball. And Edgar's craft connected with anyone who works hard.

Ichiro... Probably not necessarily the most popular (though probably so internationally and nationwide in terms of teal and navy), but definitely one of the most exciting. Compound that with one of the most honed baseball techniques, a legendary persona, unique skill set plus overall awesomness, and you end up with the superstar that is Ichiro.

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by IcebreakerX on Mar 23, 2008 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree w/ your main point...
but Randy Johnson's career definitely took off while he was a Mariner.  He's not the most popular Mariner, but he's a big reason why I started following the team so closely.

by Patrick517 on Mar 23, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

all the shit RJ gets now
people forget that he pitched the 1-game playoff on three days rest, came back and dominated the Yankees on three days rest, and then pitched three innings in relief not even two days later... it's unthinkable now to let your ace do that.
"You know, as that was coming out of my mouth, I knew that it was wrong."

by JI on Mar 23, 2008 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, that's what aces do.
But regardless, RJ's career was built here, but the legacy that will be carved in his plaque was made in Arizona, not Seattle.
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by IcebreakerX on Mar 23, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

not just any ace
you don't see club and players who are mutually willing to this because it can put a guy's career on the line
"You know, as that was coming out of my mouth, I knew that it was wrong."

by JI on Mar 24, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you guys forget how popular Griffey is/was?
Record 6 million All-Star votes in 1994, 44 million votes for his career, led the NL in votes last year, All-Century team, a presidential campaign, and his own candy bar.

I love Ichiro, but there's something amiss when Bloomquist gets the larger ovation at the beginning of Spring Training.    

by discovolante on Mar 23, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Old rich white retirees don't know anything
about baseball??  We all know they are mostly retarded anyways.

They'd probably cheer louder for a player  named A. Arp or D'enture Bond

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Mar 23, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Senile...
Is the correct clinical term, I do believe.
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by IcebreakerX on Mar 23, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, not really.
Griffey, probably. Edgar as well. Buhner's popularity rivaled too.

Ichiro has been the franchise player for the last 7 years though, and for good reason.

Unless "popularity" is numerical (the amount of people that love Ichiro) and not Seattle-specific (who is the most popular player to Seattle fans in Franchise history). Because then it may actually be Ichiro since the entire country of Japan loves him too.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 23, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree...
That Griffey was the biggest. But the key term is was.

Griffey still has a place in our hearts, but as active players go, Ichiro is out there with Jeter and Big Papi.

Baseball hasn't had an überstar legend that transcends the game since Griffey. But Ichiro is damn close.

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by IcebreakerX on Mar 23, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe, actually.
His fan base was pretty substantial, even outside of Washington.

Though, again, Japan adores Ichiro. So it's a tough call.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 23, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't speak to it.
I'd have to know how popular the Ms were in Japan pre-Ichiro (they did still have a Japanese owner).

But stateside, locally, it's not close. It's no knock against Ichiro, Griffey was Seattle though. I can see Ichiro ending up in the Edgar category of popularity.

People love him because he's good, he's consistent, and he stayed in Seattle. All the rational reasons to love a local athlete. That's not really why Griffey was loved. Ichiro's never going to have his own baseball video game for instance (in America).

Just my opinion obviously.

by Matthew on Mar 23, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could see Ichiro having a game.
But not early in his career, obviously. Griffey's game came out in 1994 after only 5 seasons.
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 23, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perspective from my corner of the world
Ichiro wasn't even the most popular Right Fielder in team history amongst the regulars and season ticket holders.  That is Jay Buhner until someone else comes along and knocks him off.  

However, Buhner never drew a stream of Japanese tourists who would come down in between innings and snap pictures of his back.  So I would think Ichiro is more of the international star.

by Sec 108 on Mar 24, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still don't understand Buhner's popularity
Granted I wasn't following baseball during the time he was playing, but what exactly made him so awesome?

by Graham MacAree on Mar 24, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get it either
and I was definitely following baseball and the Mariners during that time.
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by pdb on Mar 24, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

For those of us who sat out in RF
Jay will never be matched.  Part of it was the majestic home runs.  Part of it was the cannon arm that was also very accurate.  Part of it was the amazing catches.  Part of it was the all out effort all the time.  Part of it was the 10 square foot chew stain on the Kingdome turf.

However, mostly it was that he talked to us.  He never big timed the fans.  He was always willing to turn around and say hi, ask how we were doing or just acknowledge our cheers.  During the Sonics run in 1996 he would ask us for in game updates since we always had the games on my little 4" portable TV.

Ichiro treated the fans in RF like we were a distraction.  I will never be upset with his performance, but Jay cannot be replaced in our hearts.

by Sec 108 on Mar 24, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're forgetting the era.
1990-1994, the Mariners were rock bottom. Griffey, Edgar and Buhner (and RJ, to some extent) made baseball fun again, even while they were losing.

They're the reason most people my age watch baseball at all, because it was still dying in Seattle. I'm not going to say they "saved" it, because that's a different argument, but they certainly got people interested in the sport again in this state.

That's what makes them awesome.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 24, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of those 4
3 were amazing, hall of fame type talents.

One was pretty good.

by Graham MacAree on Mar 24, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah,
though in this case, era is more important than talent.
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 24, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome compared to what?
Buhner was awesome because he was bad-ass in a dorky sort of way.  As Sec 108 mentions below, too, he was very, very interactive w/the fans in RF. In the Kingdome, he and Griffey both would have some pretty hilarious routine antics between innings and pitching changes, etc.  

While Griffey was the superstar, Buhner was the sparkplug.  Except he actually had talent, too.  In 1997, he became only the 10th player in major league history to hit 40 or more home runs in three consecutive seasons, and the first to do so since the 60s.

Buhner Buzz Cut night helped quite a bit, too.  

During that M's era, yeah, Griffey, Edgar and A-Rod were clearly on a different planet than Buhner, talent-wise.  But Buhner was my favorite Mariner, followed by RJ and then Griffey.  Buhner's STILL rather high on my list of favorite M's players ever.  Underrated as a player, and a HUGE part of the M's success in 1995 and beyond.  

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by PositivePaul on Mar 24, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.
Living here at the time, the fanfare for Griffey was far beyond what it is for Ichiro in this town.  World wide, maybe, but domestically it's not even close.  Griffey in a landslide.
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by BrettJMiller on Mar 23, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

at one point
Griffey was pretty butthurt because he wasn't the most popular player in town. When A-Rod broke out he was far and away the most popular Mariner, but the hysteria died down and they sorta pulled even.

I think part of it is that we have retroactively made Griffey even more popular, and have gone out of our way to embrace him, because-- en masse-- this fan base would like to see Alex die in a fire.

"You know, as that was coming out of my mouth, I knew that it was wrong."

by JI on Mar 24, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously Felix vs Dice-K is #1
So I guess I've forgotten... was Felix's 12 K performance to open the year mentioned?

by Fett42 on Mar 23, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Felix schooling the Red Sox is #1
But this is going to be one of my favorite Mariners moments forever.  For once an elite player said "You know what?  I'm going to stay with these guys.  They brought me over and I'm going to show them and the fans a bit of loyalty on my part." And his place in PNW sports was secured for eternity.  Thanks Ichiro.

by coolguyrob on Mar 23, 2008 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I think that's key.
Ichiro is the first elite player who's stayed. He'll become the longest tenured elite player in our Franchise once he's done, since he'll be at 12 years and Griffey only reached 11.
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 23, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn straight
And that's why he'll always be up there right next to Edgar as the greatest Mariners ever as far as I'm concerned.  In fact I bet home plate will some day be at the corner of Ichiro and Edgar boulevarde.

by coolguyrob on Mar 23, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shit.
Boulevard doesn't have an "E" at the end of it does it?

by coolguyrob on Mar 23, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.
But "Drive" does.

As in "Edgar Martinez Drive"...

Ill Ligitamus Non Carberendum

by PositivePaul on Mar 23, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Edgar.
15 full seasons + 3 more callups.

by Matthew on Mar 23, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was awesome
I remember watching that in the bar and having the whole bar start to laugh at the poor foxbot who couldn't get her facts straight.

And thanks for making this a legitimate link.

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by pdb on Mar 24, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

The funniest Ichiro quote ever...
... was this one in an interview with Bob Costas last summer:

Costas:  What is your favorite American expression?

Ichiro, chuckling with a gleam in his eye:  August,in Kansas City,is hotter than two rats fucking in a wool sock. That's my favorite.
 
Ichiro, smirking:  I have a bad team mate.

by Doc Baseball on Mar 24, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

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