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9/3: Open Game Thread

First Pitch: 10:05am PDT

                   

Ichiro CF Damon LF Vidro DH Jeter "SS" Guillen RF Abreu RF Ibanez "LF" Rodriguez 3B Beltre 3B Matsui DH Broussard 1B Posada C Johjima C Giambi 1B Lopez 2B Cano 2B Betancourt SS Cabrera CF ---------- ----------

Hernandez (10-7, 4.08)      Clemens (6-5, 4.15)

Offense during the losing streak:

.253/.294/.333, 3.2 runs per game

Pitching during the losing streak:

.337/.400/.542, 6.1 runs per game

I'm right at the top of the list of people who want John McLaren to go away, but it's not his fault everybody on this team simultaneously forgot how to perform. Unless you believe that a different manager would've been able to light a fire under these lifeless assbags, this slump (although maybe 1-8 or 2-7 instead of 0-9) could've happened to anyone. John McLaren sucks because of his philosophies, not because of his results.

I suppose this is another one of our make-or-break series. Because we've done so well in all the previous ones. Let's just get this over with and move on with our lives.

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10 am game on a Monday? Ugh
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Sep 3, 2007 2:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Mari....
ah, fuck it...
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 2:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Posted on Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 04:58:03 AM EDT
Up early or up late Jeff? Either one probably sucks.

Bold prediction of how the game will go:

Felix will look good, not great, and take a 1 run lead into the bottom of the 8th inning. McLaren will wake up and realize his team has a lead and rectify the situation by bringing in Parrish to set up Putz. Parrish walks 2 men on base and gives up 2 runs without yielding a hit. Mariners put up 3Ks in the 9th to end the game with Lopez batting for himself as the last out.

Nah, that could never happen.

by PDXTai on Sep 3, 2007 6:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Last time I saw Felix live
He threw a one hitter. Let's hope I see a repeat performance at Yankee stadium today.

If any of you see a young guy in a dark Mariners t-shirt and a light blue trident Mariners hat, that's me. Say hi and we can hopefully celebrate the end of a losing streak and gaining a game on the Yanks. Please God. I can't deal w. seeing this team lose 10 in a row, this one in Yankee stadium surronded by those idiots.

by phil333 on Sep 3, 2007 6:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's already a 2 hitter
and a 1 run deficit...

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We beat the angels twice
Your welcome.

by TexGoesYard on Sep 3, 2007 7:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

your company's computer guy!
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We don't need you to beat the Angels
we need you to beat the Yankees...unfortunately, you don't play the Yankees, but you could help by beating Detroit the 3 games you play them up there...and, oh, we need you to lose 3 to us the last 3 of the season...thanks!

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

cheers: Happy Felix Day!
jeers: Rick Ankiel murdering the Reds.
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 7:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Grr....
Enough of these morning games.  I may have enough in me to watch the pre-game show and the first 30 minutes of the game but I'm going to bed after that.  Time to play 'nother round of "TiVo that game!"

by ThundaPC on Sep 3, 2007 8:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

night-shifter?
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too...
I'm in Mountain time so i might make it through a few innings.
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

from shannon dreyer's blog. . .
discussing college football.

J.J. is a Michigan fan.  Ouch!

Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 9:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I always called him "Joe-Bah."
But apparently it's "Jobba."  And that's retarded.

by StevenH on Sep 3, 2007 10:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

By the way
Did anyone read the thing on Putz in ESPN the Mag?

by StevenH on Sep 3, 2007 10:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Florida was even worse.
Extremely humid, making it seem even hotter.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

vidro being vidro.
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 10:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jose Vidro...
You get in this house RIGHT NOW!

by weebs on Sep 3, 2007 10:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

See
swinging at a first pitch splitter. That is stupid.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And we already know,
that's Felix's zone will be the size of a postage stamp. Thank you east coast bias! And thank you elder respect rules of society!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you take away the 18
GIDP Vidro has hit into this year, he's a pretty good hitter to have up there, with a runner on first and less than 2 outs!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

<3 little big league
He's 4th in the American league in batting against left-handed pitchers he's never faced before, in domed stadiums, east of the mason-dixon line! So that's something to keep in mind!

by weebs on Sep 3, 2007 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So
do we see Mediocre Felix or Hilariously Embarrassing Felix?

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully, Hurricane Felix.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yuni has hops.
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 10:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm an idiot.
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid cheap hits.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally
I get to see a full game for the first time in about...10 tries.

I feel good luck coming.

Then again, it might be that whole Seahawks will go 14-2, win the SB thing.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 10:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok
Good luck AFTER the first run scored.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 10:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate 2 out runs
by the other team.

by hcoguy on Sep 3, 2007 10:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Felix runs pretty fast for a
guy his size.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NOW!?! they made a Dane Cook M's commercial
Hmmm, wonder if that caused the losing skid

by hcoguy on Sep 3, 2007 10:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There's only one Dane Cook
and he gets on my fucking nerves.

by Gomez on Sep 3, 2007 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dane Cook is attracted to losers.
Like dissolves like, and all that.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man
These hitters have shitty eyes.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

DP coming
Unfortunately.

Come on Joh!

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 10:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Jlope!
Ben Grieve is jealous of you!

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nice bunt, joh.
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha, you old fart, Clemens!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Woohoo
Jlope!

: ).

His career...isn't...dead...yet.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Suck on that, roidbag.
You get cheap hits, we get cheap hits. I hope you're injured for life.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well
at least they didnt take the lead so they can coast the rest of the game.

I have a feeling Yubet wont be doing Ozzie-flips anytime soon.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 10:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened on that Wild Pitch???
Why didn't Broussard go to 2nd base on that?

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 10:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Poor Rocket.
Somebody misses the comically pathetic NL.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Like HoRam?
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ECB.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm
I wonder why noone pointed out that Selig was always a Yankee fan when Giambi got off with a slap on his wrist?...

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 10:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

bullshit
other than the foul, only two pitches were out of the strike zone
THANK YOU. NOW BENCH RICHIE FOR BEN.

by dbroncos31 on Sep 3, 2007 10:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sweet jesus!
that was awesome.
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 10:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Im sorry
but I feel awkward saying 'Melky'.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 10:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh
and why does Felix always get squeezed? You'd think they are over the rookie thing by now.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 10:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's still one of the youngest
pitchers in baseball right now, umpires almost always give the older, more veteran, pitchers a little leeway and squeeze the younger, more inexperienced pitchers.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yay for double plays
THANK YOU. NOW BENCH RICHIE FOR BEN.

by dbroncos31 on Sep 3, 2007 10:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well that pitch was a huge mistake.
Good thing Cabrera has the power of an eleven year old cub scout.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ichi.....
200 hit homer!!!!

by gblady on Sep 3, 2007 10:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ICHIRO!!!
Good way to wake up.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 10:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ICHIRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUNK BLAST!!!!!!!! 200!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

POWER SWING!!!!
Ichirooooooooooo!!!!!
THANK YOU. NOW BENCH RICHIE FOR BEN.

by dbroncos31 on Sep 3, 2007 10:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Ichiro one of the greatest signings
in baseball history?
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha
This rocks.

If you've seen the billboard near American Airlines Center, you might think the Stars should be sent to the penalty box for slashing another sport when it's down.

Or you could soak in the message - "The only thing our refs shave is the ice" - and do what Mavericks owner Mark Cuban did.
...
 Most of the billboards use clever phrases to focus on the aggressive nature of the sport. A billboard by Central Expressway and I-635 states, "One game a week? Is the N in NFL for Nancy?" The club takes a jab at major league baseball, a passion of Stars and Rangers owner Tom Hicks, at I-635 and Old Denton with a sign that reads, "Maybe baseball should stop using the word sacrifice."

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad
they're my least favorite team in the NHL.

Thats a shame.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like them either
but it's a hell of an ad campaign. I wish they wouldn't have scrapped the Vick idea.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BULLSHIT YANKEES UMPS
That was not interference, was it?

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 10:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it was.
Guillen does that all the time. Finally got caught.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was interference
I'm just surprised they finally called it.

by nfreakct on Sep 3, 2007 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the heck?
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, Jeff, I understand what you were saying
aobut first swinging at pitches....and I am watching GameDay...that pitched looked inside, not even in the strike zone, but Raul just had to swing at it...why???

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 10:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
Beltre swung at a bad first pitch too.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice job raul
THANK YOU. NOW BENCH RICHIE FOR BEN.

by dbroncos31 on Sep 3, 2007 10:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that was a strike.
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 10:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hear the part cut from ther
real interview, only on LL TV! "I am an idiot and don't know how to run a baseball team! I make terrible mistakes and I admit, Rick White paid me half his salary to put him in close games!"
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

captain clutch
that was a clutch double play, naturally

by Eldukey on Sep 3, 2007 10:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeter does the little things.
Too bad he occasionally sucks at the big ones.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 10:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, guys...
hopefully we don't have to see Rodriguez this inning....

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 10:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What is with all the DPs in this game?
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 10:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Have you not been watching the last 9 games?
M's have GIDP'd something like 500 times.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I haven't actually.
I was in Florida and wasn't in the hotel much.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i love double plays
THANK YOU. NOW BENCH RICHIE FOR BEN.

by dbroncos31 on Sep 3, 2007 10:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The reason the YES announcers
were so surprised by that DP is because Jeter would have had to jump five feet in the air to make the play...

Not that it wasn't a nice DP.

by Fuckmikereilly on Sep 3, 2007 10:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, it's nice to have a lead again
even if it is only the 4th inning

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This game needs another
Igawa/Bean/Vizcaino inning.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know why the strike zone suddenly shrinks..
...on Gameday?  As in, you can see the "box" suddenly growing shorter.  Am I correct in assuming that has something to do with height of the batter?

Nice hit AB.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 11:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think so, yeah.
Does the Sexson zone fit on your monitor?

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job Adrian!
If we would just be a little patient today...Clemens is all over the place...Raul, are you listening????

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me or is Clemens getting a bigger zone
than Felix???

I am watching on game day and it sure seems that way!

Go M's

by OBF on Sep 3, 2007 11:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a ball.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 11:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

clemens is trying
to walk Ben and the ump won't let him

by hcoguy on Sep 3, 2007 11:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He should've walked.
Six balls, 3-2 count.  Fuck the "Clemens is a superstar" strikezone.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 11:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

God darn it Joh!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 11:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's cool
we totally don't need insurance runs against this lineup, Kenji.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on JLope!
Resurrect your career!

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 11:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck you Clemens.
I bet that shit was intentional, because Lopez made him look like a fool.  Clemens is an asshole.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 11:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Roger...
do that to Raul next time...that way he can't swing at the first pitch

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No, I wonder what would happen
if he swung at a pitch that hit him that was for strike 3...would he be out, or go to first???

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YUNI DOUBLE!!!
What the hell?  The Mariners LEADING?

by Gomez on Sep 3, 2007 11:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YUNI!!!!!!

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yowzah!
First pitch swingin' . . . .

by Paytheline on Sep 3, 2007 11:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thank god lopez and yuni
are making up for kenjis SUCK

by kbd24 on Sep 3, 2007 11:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love it
First pitch, off speed, probably out of the zone and Yuni ropes it for a double

by Nick S on Sep 3, 2007 11:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
that was a splitter at the ankles.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ichiro! OMG..he just ran off the field
said fuck the run down
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 11:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ichiro believes in Japanese efficiency
You know, why waste time and effort on an exhausting run-down?  Just say "fuck it" and grab your glove.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ichiro is a hilarious baserunner.
KISS IT CLEMENS!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 11:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ICHI- ro.
Nice work but was there really a need to turn for 2nd?

by Gomez on Sep 3, 2007 11:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ICHIRO!!!!!!!

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ichiro cannot be stopped.
HA! DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO GET TAGGED.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 11:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we would all hate Ichiro
if he played for any other team.

by TrashiDawa on Sep 3, 2007 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely.
Almost as much as Willits.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not so sure.
We would be immensely pissed off at him and frustrated with him, but would nevertheless grudgingly tip our caps to his awesomeness.  Sort of like Vlad, really.

Besides, his entire attitude and approach to the game is refreshingly different to your typical major league player.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WELL, I'LL TAKE IT...
it was great to see a 3 run inning....I hope they keep Clemens in there for another couple of innings...

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

5-1 after 4
lookin' good!

by gblady on Sep 3, 2007 11:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

After three and a half
don't get ahead of yourself, not against this lineup.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its just a new way to lose we are trying
the whole, 'get a big lead early' type of thing.  I still am wary about this squad ever winning..I honestly forget what it feels like
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We already tried that against Santana.
Oh shit, our losing streak is looping.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mussina warming up
this would be an embarrassing game to lose.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Excellent!
Mussina is warming up in the pen. What a beautiful way to end a summer.

by TrashiDawa on Sep 3, 2007 11:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

where was that first pitch to Matsui?
Clemens gets that call...and 6 inches more inside too...bullshit
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 11:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Having been hit in the head,
I say get out of the way." Not having been hit in head, I say stand there and take it off the dome like a man!

by DCMariner on Sep 3, 2007 11:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
Because clearly you need experience getting hit in the head to know that getting hit in the head is bad for you.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man
this guy does not like to call Felix's curveball a strike.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Beltre and Ben! WOO
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 11:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

60 pitches in 4 innings...
maybe we won't need Rick White today....

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap
the infield ate its Wheaties today.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sexson's gigantic ass
falls over on that scoop attempt

by DCMariner on Sep 3, 2007 11:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Then he goes to argue the call
gets ejected and takes three swings at the umpire, and misses.
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adrian tries to grab him to stop him
and Richie knocks him into the LF bleachers and injures him for the season.

by Gomez on Sep 3, 2007 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF is going on?
When life gives you scurvy, make lemonade.

by Mariner John on Sep 3, 2007 11:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mussina is bad, he goes to bullpen.
Ho is worse, he continues starting.  Huh?  

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 11:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To be fair
we don't have an Ian Kennedy. But, yeah.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish M's fans
booed HoRam when he started out his day 2-0 on a hitter...that'd be entertaining.  Mussina already hearing it a bit
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Mussina out of the bullpen?
This is exactly what they said wouldn't happen.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would like
100% evidence those pitches were all strikes.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In mariner lore
Is there anyway we win a game in which both Mussina and Clemens pitch?. I wonder if the yanks will bring out Chris Hoiles to hit a walk off slam.
This is me not lurking.

by PhilKenSebben on Sep 3, 2007 11:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Way to watch
the only strike of the at-bat

by DCMariner on Sep 3, 2007 11:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yankee bloggers at Pinstripe Alley
have already given up on this game...after they saw Mussina come in...

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mussina
is getting a bigger zone than Clemens...

by TrashiDawa on Sep 3, 2007 11:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mussina's K/9: 5.53
Mussina's career K/9: 7.15
Mussina's 2006 K/9: 7.84

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I yelled that too
and it hurt my lungs
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For us
Gamedayers

How is Felix looking?

Good, Bad, Ugly, Rany Winn-generic?

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 11:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Really good.
Not Boston-good, but good.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you
Im glad he hasnt gotten flustered with the strike zone.

In fact, gameday just said a pitch to Damon was down the middle and called ball.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very good, mixing his pitches,
getting a lot of groundballs. He's a little wild though.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...we need every run against the Yankees...
GameDay scoreboard has us with 1 run in the 2nd, 1 in the 3rd and 1 in the 4th...can we check those scores on the last 9 games????

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant strategy by the M's
By not scoring off Mussina, Torre will insert him back into the rotation in September where he can blow critical games early!

Guillen≠team player

by Fuckmikereilly on Sep 3, 2007 11:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Two of those pitches were strikes...
when Clemens was pitching

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All four of those pitches to Damon
Were arguably strikes!
Go M's

by OBF on Sep 3, 2007 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

His control could be better.
I suppose I'd rather have him miss off the plate than miss over it, though.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

way to jinx him Jeff
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

COME ON UMP!
Felix getting SERIOUSLY squeezed now by the ump!
Go M's

by OBF on Sep 3, 2007 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh
Hes getting fucked
Every time Ibanez is in the lineup, God kills a mariners fan

by cougfan on Sep 3, 2007 11:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

JEEZ, WHAT IS UP??
On GameDay, those are strikes.....

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

THAT WAS ANOTHER STRIKE
COME ON
Every time Ibanez is in the lineup, God kills a mariners fan

by cougfan on Sep 3, 2007 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

THAT WAS RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE!!!!!!
HOW THE HELL IS THAT A BALL?!?!?!?!
Go M's

by OBF on Sep 3, 2007 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That... was... a ... ball?
You suck ump.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I turned the game on...
as Damon was walking to the plate.

I haven't seen a strike yet.

It's about to be 5-4.

by PLU Tim on Sep 3, 2007 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Stupid ECB, Yankees, America's team.
mumble...
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 11:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

*Gasp*
A strike?  Whats that?
Every time Ibanez is in the lineup, God kills a mariners fan

by cougfan on Sep 3, 2007 11:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

all EIGHT balls to Damon
and Jeter were arguably strikes.

They were certainly stikes for Clemens and Mussina.

Get out ther McLaren and do some yelling!

Go M's

by OBF on Sep 3, 2007 11:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Abraeu gets a hit and A-rod goes deep. watch
I have a Jeff quote on my facebook!

by andyboi on Sep 3, 2007 11:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, and I know it's not a popular opinion,
I think with Gameday being able to call balls and strikes accurately, there is no need for the home plate umpire to call balls and strikes anymore.  Just plays at the plate.  If we have a 100% accurate way to call balls and strikes, then fuck the "integrity" of the game and the umpires.  Isn't it more important to get the calls right?

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gameday isn't infallible.
However, I agree with your point, even though it's never going to get much public support.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know it will never happen.
But getting calls right should take precedence over the tradition of the game.  Instant replay and a game day strike zone would make the game so much better...

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they should have a little
handheld electronic indicator to immediately check the close pitches, that way they can still keep the classic look of the game as much as possible

by Eldukey on Sep 3, 2007 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Bobby
for taking the inning away from the umpire.

by JOlderdude on Sep 3, 2007 11:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is why gameday should call balls and strikes
And umpires should only be used for plays at the plate.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy shit...
I turned the game on in time to see Jeter walking. Has it been this bad all game?

by sammy on Sep 3, 2007 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's been bad.
But I don't want to sound like I'm bitching so I'll leave it at that.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeter is so clutch he clouds the minds of the ump
Who's calling balls and strikes?  He's sucked nuts all day.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was the most pathetic home plate
umpiring I have ever seen on GameDay.

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So, if the Mariners can score a few more
then next inning I say Felix throws a fastball towards Kenji's head, and Kenji ducks out of the way at the last second.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I am sure there is a rule somewhere
that says if the Yankees swing and miss at a pitch out of the strike zone, it is still a ball...

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck the yanks,
felix is getting ridiculously squeezed
THANK YOU. NOW BENCH RICHIE FOR BEN.

by dbroncos31 on Sep 3, 2007 11:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That DS thing
was actually pretty interesting. I wonder if they could put gameday on it.
This is me not lurking.

by PhilKenSebben on Sep 3, 2007 11:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"You can only imagine what's going through
(Phillips') mind as he watches his team play without him."

Hey, they look better.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

GREAT at bat Ben!!!
Richie could never do that
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 11:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good AB Ben
keep it up
This is me not lurking.

by PhilKenSebben on Sep 3, 2007 11:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cant get much more down the middle than that
Every time Ibanez is in the lineup, God kills a mariners fan

by cougfan on Sep 3, 2007 11:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCK
you mclaren
This is me not lurking.

by PhilKenSebben on Sep 3, 2007 11:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HE WAS SAFE!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 11:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If Olerud were at first he'd be safe
I have a Jeff quote on my facebook!

by andyboi on Sep 3, 2007 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to ruin an inning
I'm tired of this sacrifice shit
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 11:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If we weren't up by 4,
I'd be extremely upset by that.

by sammy on Sep 3, 2007 11:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So uh, Moose gets hit hard.
Sac bunt?  God I hate traditional managers so fucking much.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 11:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I understand Lopez sucks.
But still...I mean, Lopez has been pretty terrible at bunting as well lately.  I think letting him swing has less room for error (K, IF popup, strange 1B)....

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YUNI!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damon
looks like a Manny style LF
This is me not lurking.

by PhilKenSebben on Sep 3, 2007 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate the bunt
too bad McClaren plays for the 19th inning instead of the current inning at the wrong time and decides to be traditional at the wrong time.

Can he do any right?

Yubet is tearing it up.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Im referring to
nothing going right no matter what he does.

But yeah, im torn on the bunt in that position.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Almost a YuniBomb.
I love watching Johnny Damon play defense. It's like track and field at the special olympics.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That pitch was a foot outside
but it was thrown by a Yankee!
It's a strike.

by JOlderdude on Sep 3, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you all realise that that was Yunis
THIRTY FOURTH double of the year!

looks like the blog-o-shpher was wrong about Yuni!

Go M's

by OBF on Sep 3, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Where, exactly?
  1. .289/.310/.403
  2. .285/.307/.414

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the end of last year
the blog-o-sphere was touting Yuni as a singles hitting, all glove SS, who had PEAKED in 2006 hitting wise.

I would say this year has been an improvement over last year, and that there seems to be more upside in his swing than he was given credit for, thats all.

Go M's

by OBF on Sep 3, 2007 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's almost exactly the same player.
None of his peripherals have changed. The slight boost in ISO is just random fluctuation.

I still don't see the power upside. He doesn't have it in him.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

still . . .
he is God's (Castro's) gift to SS.
Yu Bet! Cuba, si! Yanqi, NO!

by Patrick517 on Sep 3, 2007 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok seriously....
I know that it's never mentioned as one of those "unbreakable" records or anything, but does anyone realize that Wee Willie Keeler's run of 8 consecutive 200 hit seasons was accomplished between 1894 and 1901?

Seriously, the fact that anyone can debate his MLB HOF status is completely foolish.

by PLU Tim on Sep 3, 2007 11:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All that means is that it's a worthless record.
Nothing that comes from that era is worth a damn at all.  AT ALL. Cy Young's records are basically bullshit, except to indicate that he was a great pitcher.  

Baseball records from before the modern era (1901 onward), especially hitting records, are a farce.  Before 1901, foul balls weren't even considered strikes.  

That's why most people consider the Rangers' 30 runs against the Orioles to be the "true" all time record.  Because the 37 run game was done in 1897, back when baseball had primitive rules.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I know...
that makes what Ichiro is doing all that more historic.

The guy is just an amazing player. I know a lot of people like to rank guys like Sachel Paige and Josh Gibson on their "all-time player" lists, so where would Ichiro rank?

Is it ridiculous to say that he's one of the best baseball players that has ever played the game? I'm not talking just a HOF level player, but a guy who would go into the HOF wing of the HOF if one existed.

by PLU Tim on Sep 3, 2007 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I totally misinterpreted you.
I thought you were saying that Keeler's HOF status shouldn't be debated, not Ichiro's.

I think if Ichiro plays ten years, he's in for sure.  Though the voters won't technically be able to factor in his Japanese seasons, I think that most of them will keep that in mind.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They weren't after 1901 either,
not at least until 1903.

Modern baseball started at 1892 (or 93?) when the mound was pushed back to 60'6". I took the pitchers a few seasons to adjust... but the rules of the game from 1897 are almost exactly the same as the rules used in 1903 (when fouls became strikes).

by JI on Sep 3, 2007 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...I guess I understand the bunt
in normal circumstances, but we're talking about a pitcher who has given up about 100 runs a game in his last 5 or 6 outings...why not keep swinging??  We still need every run...Rick White lurks out there in our bullpen

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do.
I'm hoping against hope that this is when the team comes off the mat.

by eponymous coward on Sep 3, 2007 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know about anyone else,
but I was really enjoying the little matchup of prepitch rituals between Ichiro and Mussina. Seemed like a choreographed dance.

by DCMariner on Sep 3, 2007 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a BEAUTIFUL pitch to A-Rod.
Damn, Felix is doing pretty good up until now.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 11:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

DON'T SAY UP UNTIL NOW...
say "so far"---means two different things...you had me scared, I was reading the blog and thought Alex hit a HR

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great, thanks for reminding me Sims,
only two days until school starts. I had forgot for a minute.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 12:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Aw, is someone nervous
about their first day in fifth grade?

by Fuckmikereilly on Sep 3, 2007 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Felix!!
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 12:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did I just hear that Michael Kay
has never eaten an egg? (or was it ketchup on eggs?) That's a weird thing to mention on a broadcast

by DCMariner on Sep 3, 2007 12:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it was
never eaten an egg, never eaten ketchup, or a banana...

yeah, that whole exchange was strange.

by sammy on Sep 3, 2007 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree on the Bananas
I also, have never eaten a banana.

If they taste anything like they smell - which I hear they do - I'm not really interested.

Impeach Gary Bettman

by Edanger6 on Sep 3, 2007 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh.
well, people are weird. I have a friend who can't stand ketchup. Not the taste mind you, she likes the taste of it just fine; she just gets incredibly upset and disgusted if she gets it on any part of her skin.

by sammy on Sep 3, 2007 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This has got to be a fucking joke
Maury Povich is so pathetic.  PICKLES???

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my gosh
I think of myself as a fairly understanding and sympathetic person, but that was fucking hysterical.
"Players have two things to do. Play and keep their mouths shut." - Sparky Anderson

by Omerta on Sep 3, 2007 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He should have 20 less pitches.
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 12:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He would have...
if the home plate ump gave him the same strike zone he gave Clemens

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be happy with a normal zone
With a Clemens or Maddux zone he might have a no-hitter.

by hcoguy on Sep 3, 2007 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's not get greedy.
Just be happy with what we've gotten.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All right, Jose Guillen!!!
Pour it on these guys....but save something for tomorrow, too

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why
is Ibanez swinging through 89 mph fastballs?

by TrashiDawa on Sep 3, 2007 12:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Since August 21st
Raul Ibanez has 14 singles and two doubles.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And probably 10 of the singles
were those awkward swings where he is off balance and hits a dribbler that finds a hole
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

God Bless America
the only place in the world where Jason Giambi can admit what he did and not get in trouble.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good ol' Betre, low and away
That probably would've been called a strike though.

by hcoguy on Sep 3, 2007 12:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

7-8-9 due up.
Man, their 7-8-9 is terrifying. I don't like that.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The ump
is giving us make-up calls on strikes now

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good
That guy is jackass of the highest order.
Impeach Gary Bettman

by Edanger6 on Sep 3, 2007 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's actually grown on me.
Living in Connecticut for four years, I saw a lot of the YES Network, and he's pretty good at what he does.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep
I grew up in CT. For as much as I despise the Yankees, I always found YES to be surprisingly watchable. Everything seems very professional. Some of their calls are annoying, but atleast they do it for both teams (Ichiro got a "SeeYa!" earlier).

by DCMariner on Sep 3, 2007 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that pretty much nails it.
They're professional, they're smart, they tell good stories, and they're objective. Al Leiter doesn't contribute much, but Kay's right up there as one of the top broadcasters in the league.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parrish warming up,
I FEEL SO CONFIDENT NOW! THANK YOU MAC!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 12:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Give it up Melky.
C'mon, stop this, it's annoying.

GOOD BOY!

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

K!!
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Sep 3, 2007 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The best part of Kay's rant
is that it implies that somehow having John Parrish in the bullpen gives us an advantage.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I've been away for a while but
has anyone noticed a correlation in losses and the LL picture change to Richie crying?
I have a Jeff quote on my facebook!

by andyboi on Sep 3, 2007 12:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the picture changed
after the losing streak was well under way.

by sammy on Sep 3, 2007 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didnt it change after Angels loss #2
I have a Jeff quote on my facebook!

by andyboi on Sep 3, 2007 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.
Changed after Cleveland.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was the cleveland loss
the picture is from cleveland dang-gummit

by Eldukey on Sep 3, 2007 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

quoted the wrong person
the picture says indians right on it though

by Eldukey on Sep 3, 2007 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one with David and Goliath
then referring to Bill Buckner
I have a Jeff quote on my facebook!

by andyboi on Sep 3, 2007 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Felix is still throwing heat.
I assume he's trying to leave it all out there on the field for his last inning.

Here's to a day of GOOD FELIX.  He could give up six singles from this point on, and it's still been a great, much-needed game from him.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

where did that miss???
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Sep 3, 2007 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

KING!!
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Sep 3, 2007 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HAIL TO THE KING.
He put us on his shoulders today.  Team gave him six runs, but he only needed 2.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What was that about?
Great job, Felix. Great job.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Felix at 114 pitches....
man, did we ever need this today!

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Vidro watched a pitch
in the same location for strike three.

by JOlderdude on Sep 3, 2007 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Quite a bit better than that.
1 run against the Yankees offense at Yankee stadium, under this sort of pressure, is damn impressive.  He wasn't flashing Dice-K/BoSox-game stuff, but he was clutch.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So let's recap
Five singles, "four" walks, five strikeouts, GB:FB > 2

Awesome outing. Say what you will about Felix's immaturity, but he's stepped it up on some big stages this year.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ben's gotten on base 3 times today.
And Richie crying seems even more appropriate now.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 12:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see Felix pitch so well
Even with the tough strike zone and the long at bats. Well done sir.

by mary on Sep 3, 2007 12:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So, Ben
Great first baseman, or greatest first baseman?

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In baseball now?
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep it alive....
I wanna see these replays on ESPN ALL NIGHT LONG...

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

End of season stats will look funny
We have a first baseman who will get 500 plate appearances with a .200 BA, and another 1B with a third of that hitting .300.  Makes sense!

by Manzanillos Cup on Sep 3, 2007 12:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pedro's back
and strikeout #3000 was, fittingly, the opposing pitcher.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YAY BEN!!!!

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lopez!!!?????
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Sep 3, 2007 12:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jose!!!
Should just let him swing.

by BlueBaron on Sep 3, 2007 12:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

uh, sorry...I mean JOSE!
not sure what happened there...I need more caffeine

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

you can't stop our 8/9 hitters
you can only hope to contain 'em
Impeach Gary Bettman

by Edanger6 on Sep 3, 2007 12:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We have assured Mr. Torre that Mr. Mussina
SUCKS
I have a Jeff quote on my facebook!

by andyboi on Sep 3, 2007 12:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Yankees...
have given up 9 runs, 6 runs, 9 runs, and now 7 runs in their last 4 games...

Can it please last 2 more games????

GO M'S

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

7-1, this thing still doesn't feel over.
I hate you Yankees offense.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Sep 3, 2007 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I really think that Felix
picked up the whole team today....including ALL the pitchers...Green seems to be confident out there

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, more Sean Green.
The Yankees love them some right-handed groundballers.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeter ALWAYS comes through...
late in games.

He's never not been clutch.

by PLU Tim on Sep 3, 2007 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Six consecutive outs in the next 2 innings
would really be nice here

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

97 but feels like 103
here in Echo Park CA (near downtown L.A.)

I'm fucking melting, and it's only gonna get worse this afternoon.

I drink half a beer and put in the freezer and then finish the one I put in the freezer earliar.  It's way too much effort for a cold brew.

Impeach Gary Bettman

by Edanger6 on Sep 3, 2007 12:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Even Long Beach
is sweltering...that is why I am in Starbucks right now...

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but,
do they have icey cold beers?
Impeach Gary Bettman

by Edanger6 on Sep 3, 2007 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in Arizona.
It's basically been like that for the last two weeks here.

by Nick S on Sep 3, 2007 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in east hollywood
just on the border of silverlake/K-town. My fan just blows hot air. My dog sounds like she's dying. My mattress is hot to the touch. It's gotten to the point where I can't wait to go back to work tomorrow because the office has A/C

by sammy on Sep 3, 2007 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's sad
...wanting to go back to work.

(OT) If you need a really good video store, I own one downtown (4th and Main and not to far from ktown)  Check us out at oldbankdvd.com

Impeach Gary Bettman

by Edanger6 on Sep 3, 2007 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks promising.
I'll czech it out. I usually netflix everything, but  there's a bunch of stuff I know is on dvd, but that netflix doesn't carry (besides, sometimes you need the immediacy of just being able to head out to the store and get your movie)

by sammy on Sep 3, 2007 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps Felix's game against LA
was his way of telling us that we should focus on the Wild Card instead.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The King offered to cut the AL West
Championship in half. Giving a piece to both the Ms and Angels. The M's would have taken this deal, while the Angels offered to give up the title rather than destroy it. Being a wise ruler, Felix gave the AL West to the team that really deserved it.

by DCMariner on Sep 3, 2007 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Michael Kay
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Sep 3, 2007 12:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Heh
McLaren wants to end this thing in a hurry.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 12:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

well that was easy.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Sep 3, 2007 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What's with the pressure?
6 run lead, 4 outs to go.  I'm just sayin'.
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And now you jinxed us.
THANKS A LOT!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ummm
It's the Mariners riding a 9 game losing streak?

by JOlderdude on Sep 3, 2007 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha! Comments at the exact same
time!
My name is Matt Foley. I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

by Coach Owens on Sep 3, 2007 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are we not sabermetricians?
Do we not know win expectancy?

We're making this more tense then it is.

I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a bad idea to let Putz pitch the 9th
Considering the M's have an off game on Thursday. He could still pitch if necessary tomorrow and Wednesday.

by TrashiDawa on Sep 3, 2007 12:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think thats when a team
gets to pile onto a plane and fly a few thousand miles before their next zillion games in a row. Either that or its an old wooden ship, I'm not sure which.

by DCMariner on Sep 3, 2007 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FARNSWORTH...
hasn't been through the wars like Rick White, but he is the Yankees' Rick White

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 12:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know Im not the only person
Who thinks Jimerson could be a useful player, even if he's not a prospect anymore.
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 12:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Me too
He'd shatter the K record if he played everyday, but Charlton Jimerson could do some serious damage with his bat and his legs off the bench.

by Gomez on Sep 3, 2007 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The hell was Kay talking about?
the combined winning percentage of our remaining opponents is .515, not .415.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's predicting
29 game losing streaks for everybody by the time we play them, apparnently.  Which... would be some trick.
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really wanted to see Raul get a quality hit
that at bat...might boost his confidence.

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tony Randazzo
has had a hard on for the Mariners all year. That was not a surprise.

by JOlderdude on Sep 3, 2007 1:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jimerson
1-6 in his career with a homer. His only hit.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 1:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I've got 2-6
where are you getting your info?

by Fuckmikereilly on Sep 3, 2007 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well its time for bed.
Ive been up all day.

Erm.

Yeah, lack of logic in math. 6 ABs with a .333 AVG = 2 hits.

Hurry up and win Ms.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see why not.
You've got Reed and Jones, to go with Ichiro.  All of them cover ground faster then any other combo of guys out there.  Use them.
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ibanez it is
Guess I didn't phrase that well...I assumed it was a given that he'd be in for defense (cause Mac doesn't risk giving him an AB) but I didn't know which one he'd be in for. Whatever. Putz in, game over.

by Nick S on Sep 3, 2007 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES...one down...
I don't even want to see Damon's ugly face up to bat one more time today

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 1:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The fact girls find him hot
makes me glad im not a girl or gay.

Not that there is anything wrong with it.

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awww, poor Giambi.
Somebody misses his power and ability.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, remember strikes?
Apparently this umpire doesn't either.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 3, 2007 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Up yours Blue
Call strikes, fat fuck.
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a strike.
I've said this a lot today.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love that
pitch triangulation system, don't you? =D
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by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

even when down 7-1
and 2 outs to go, they still get the yankee strikezone

by Eldukey on Sep 3, 2007 1:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Getting them to swing and miss
Like Oakland.  This is why it is important to have an ability to "miss bats".
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

K
PUTZ!
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

8 pitch at bat
and the only 2 not in the strike zone were the first and the last

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 1:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

and he still strikes him out
this gives me alot more confidence in JJ, those first 3 pitches we're painted perfectly

by Eldukey on Sep 3, 2007 1:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

96mph
JJ isn't dicking around.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 1:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Amazing
Arguably, Cano only saw one ball but worked a full count.

Arguably, Cabrera never saw a strike, but sucks ass.

Seriously.

I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BALLGAME
So this is what this feels like.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They all look so happy :)
Good game guys.

by mary on Sep 3, 2007 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ballgame!!
all hail the king!!!!

and Ichiro

WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Sep 3, 2007 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HORRRRAAAAAAYYY...IT'S OVER!
Time for a 9 game win streak

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else see the zombie
peak around the corner from the clubhouse into the Mariner dugout!?
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 3, 2007 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

MARINERS WIN
THHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHE MARINERS WIN!  LOSING SKID OVER

by Gomez on Sep 3, 2007 1:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

TEEN GIRL SQUAD
CHEERLEADER!

SO AND SO!

WHAT'S HER FACE!

THE UGLY ONE!

LADIES, WE BE LOOKIN'...

SOOOOOO GOOOOOOD!

IT'S OVER!

I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

CHOMP!
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN
will probably show highlights about 20 minutes into SportsCenter for 15 seconds, and give us 15 minutes of Dodger highlights...

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No.
They'll show highlights of Roger sucking for later conversation.

They'll show Ichiro's 200th hit, a home run, because they have to.

They'll show the one run the Yankees did get, because... they just will.

They'll mention that this ends a 9 game losing streak for the Mariners and that it puts them only one game back of the Yankees.

Then they'll talk about Roger Clemens sucking for the next 10 minutes.

I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BUT...TIED in the loss column
...and how is Detroit not playing today?  How can any team not play on Labor Day?  Isn't that un-American???

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm
We win.

And I feel no 'shit damn fuck' coming on...

by Slica on Sep 3, 2007 1:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Yankees get down on their pitching...
just like we do...this from PinStripe Alley:

[new] What do you know
Farnsy pitches a shutout inning when it counts the most.

GO M'S

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 1:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather have Farnsworth
Then Josh Parrish, Sean, or Rick White.  If for no reason other then we'd have a Mariner player as a reoccuring Dugout character.
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not only that, but Farnsworth will wreck shit...
...in any brawl.  Guy's a bruiser with several famous takedowns in recent years.

by esoteric on Sep 3, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which in turn would mean
regular appearances in The Dugout for other Mariners.

by Gomez on Sep 3, 2007 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

same here...
I'm just saying he has not been all that consistent lately, and the Yankee fans dump on him as much as we do on our guys...

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thing is
It sounds like the guys at PA are just being whiny bitches.  I know they have reason to not like Farnsworth's mediocrity, especially with his contract, but he's still better then some of our craptastic relievers.

Then again, with the mentality of Yankee fan, unless you're Mariano Rivera or Joba The Hutt (The Fat Hutts, You Know The Hutts I Mean) Chamberlain, you suck.

Which is, mostly true I suppose.  But you get my point.  Unless you get everybody out all the time without giving up runs, you're HORRRRRRIIIIBBBBBLLLLEEEEEEEEEE.

I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lord
ESPN News just said:

"Today's game was a bad matchup for the Yankees with Felix Hernandez going against Roger Clemens, and he got roughed up.  Tomorrow's matchup is more favorable with Horacio Ramriez going against... well anybody."

When ESPN News says "you suck", you suck.

I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 1:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know he has a huge ERA...
but how has he won 8 games for us this year???  Did we score 15 runs a game in his wins???

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But we better get to Wang early tomorrow
...his last start against Boston he had a no-hitter till the 6th and wound up with a 2 hit shutout....and I am sure he is hearing from everyone how important this game is to the Yankees tomorrow, what with their pitching staff giving up an average of 7.25 runs in the last 4 games

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's where I'm concerned
Wang no hit us for over 7 frames last time we faced him in Yankee Stadium.

by Gomez on Sep 3, 2007 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clemens is having an MRI on his elbow
yeah, we're never seeing Felix highlights on ESPN.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Sep 3, 2007 1:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I can see it now.
Doctor: Your results just came in.
Clemens: So what's the word?
Doctor: Well, according to this, you take steroids.
Clemens:
Doctor: You're also an asshole.
Clemens: I don't-
Doctor: See, right here, that's the Asshole Epicondyle. I don't have one, but yours is pretty prominent.
Clemens: uh
Doctor: Yeah.
Clemens:
Doctor:
Clemens:
Doctor:
Clemens:
Doctor: Oh, and you need ligament replacement surgery.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 3, 2007 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some corrections are in order
Doctor: Your results just came in.
OldLOL: So what's the word?
Doctor: Well, according to this, you take steroids.
OldLOL:
Doctor: You're also an asshole.
OldLOL: I don't-
Doctor: See, right here, that's the Asshole Epicondyle. I don't have one, but yours is pretty prominent.
OldLOL: uh
Doctor: Yeah.
OldLOL:
Doctor:
OldLOL:
Doctor:
OldLOL:
Doctor: Oh, and you need ligament replacement surgery.
MarkPrevious: Sucks to be you!
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Sep 3, 2007 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You forgot the last line
MarkPrevious: /sneezes, tears labrum

by Gomez on Sep 3, 2007 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW
I was at the game when the Yankees announced that Clemens had signed with them (an otherwise dull loss for the Ms). Fans around me were very excited.
And its probably a record that the Ms today faced opposing pitcher with more than 600 wins combined. Can't have happened since the days of Cy Young.

by vj on Sep 3, 2007 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have some confidence tomorrow even with
ho pitching. The way this team works it doesn't make any sense to go out and lose tomorrow.
You may run like Mays but you hit like shit

by houseofprime2 on Sep 3, 2007 2:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Losing
would be the logical thing that we all expect.  And obviously, this team has decided never to do what we expect...

by LongBeachDave on Sep 3, 2007 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

even worse
on the yesnetwork's message board they have threads with titles such as "9-3-07 - The day the season ended"

by Eldukey on Sep 3, 2007 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How'd it look on TV?
At the game, it looked sweet. Not just the result, but the way the M's played. Felix did not get hit hard, once. Even the harder hit balls were on the ground up the middle, just not at a fielder. Posada got on twice that way. No extra base hits for the entire Yankee offense is pretty sweet.

As for the M's bats, they hit the ball HARD. (except for the Lopez RBI lol) .. Even their fly outs were realllly hit. Team looked very good.

Felix had a couple 4 pitch walks, at least 2 of them with 2 outs. Needs to work on that. He still seems to be getting flustered on the mound, but thats to be expected from a 21 yr old. He really brought his A game today.

Thoroughly enjoyable day at Yankee stadium. Beautiful weather and beautiful baseball. The woman in front of me called me a jerk, even though my cheers for the M's were polite the entire game. I'm sorry lady if you don't want to hear me clap and yell "I love you Ichiro!" after that home run or "Nice rip Jose" "Nice rip Ben" after great hits by both those guys. I'm surronded by 50,000 of your fans, you'll just have to deal with your team losing a game.

Losing strak over!

by phil333 on Sep 3, 2007 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Felix
I take back what  I said about those Felix walks. I looked at the game thread and saw the Gameday images of one of the walks. Wow that's a horrible home plate ump. I was on the first base line so couldn't tell.

by phil333 on Sep 3, 2007 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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