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I have to wake up at 4:30 in the morning to catch my flight to Seattle. So, naturally, JJ Putz decided to go and make sure this didn't end on time. But dear sweet Christ, sticking around was so so worth it. From a dramatic win over our biggest rivals in a game that felt lost so many times to Adam Jones' promotion, I can't remember the last time Mariner fans had reason to be so God damn happy.

Felix, you rocked tonight. Brandon Morrow, you did too. Yuniesky Betancourt, you rocked more. Jose Lopez, you didn't. And Jason Ellison, while I know this whole situation sucks, know that we'll always appreciate what you did while you were here. Never before has a backup outfielder meant so much to the future of a franchise, and I hope you're able to find a good home for yourself.

I'm going to go to bed so I can make this flight without being too much of a wreck. I'll see some of you guys tomorrow night in Tacoma at the first of our LL/USSM get-togethers. I'll be the tall guy with the shit-eating grin.

Biggest Contribution: Brandon Morrow, +29.2%
Biggest Suckfest: JJ Putz, -33.3%
Most Important At Bat: Lopez misses bunt, -29.5%
Most Important Pitch: HGH homer, -36.2%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +17.5%
Total Contribution by Position Players: +9.5%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +23.0%

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biggest suckfest: JJ Putz...
it just sounds unnatural, so strange

by thenatural on Aug 1, 2007 11:47 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tomorrow.
Jamey Wright vs Jake Westbrook early.

Root for the rangers, Cheer for Lofton, whoops, I mean um no, still fuck Kenny Lofton!

I think I will just stay up til that game starts actually, havn't pulled an allnighter in a while.

Missed the Felix Catastrophe, you think he was fakin a bit to throw off the Angels? I've seen pitchers leave for less many times.

by hcoguy on Aug 1, 2007 11:48 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno
it seemed pretty genuine. It appeared that he just got the wind knocked out of him, so it was intense, but short-lived...

by thenatural on Aug 1, 2007 11:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just so you all know
I was at the game...and the atmostphere outside of the stadium after the game was AMAZING..people screaming, honking yelling...it was so awesome!!! WOOOO
I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Aug 1, 2007 11:49 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am feeling more jealousy
than at any other moment in my life...

it seems like this team could roll out a 10-12 game winning streak off of the emotion of this win alone

by thenatural on Aug 1, 2007 11:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Texas wins tomorrow
and we are the wild card leaders.  GO SALTY!!!
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Aug 1, 2007 11:51 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats like
having your backup date to the prom already inline, its a good thing, but first choice is better ie the division
Spider pig, spider pig does whatever a spider pig does.

by wadswerth on Aug 1, 2007 11:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unusual
Biggest Suckfest: J.J. Putz
Biggest Contribution: Brandon Morrow

Does not compute.

by ThundaPC on Aug 1, 2007 11:59 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see Coach is ignoring everything we told him
and still trolling at HH.

Your a dumbfuck Coach.

These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Aug 2, 2007 12:00 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well
some peoples kids eh, i havent even been to HH only other teams blog i went to his tampas because i have a softspot for them with there tiny 24mil payroll
Spider pig, spider pig does whatever a spider pig does.

by wadswerth on Aug 2, 2007 12:06 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UGHHH..
Seriously Coach if you a problem with HH post it here, stop trolling.  Actually fuck it, do what you want, you don't speak for any of us...so whatever.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Aug 2, 2007 12:06 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God damn it coach
Whose turn is it to rape him on a trade in BMO?

by Robert on Aug 2, 2007 12:06 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No they didn't you idiot.
They were just screwing around. Did you see how we reacted to the two Angel fans in the gamethread? And they weren't even trolling! Imagine how pissed right the fuck off the guys at HH feel. Not that I give a shit, but I wouldn't want that happening here.

You had your chance for redemption Coach and you blew it. Loser.

These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Aug 2, 2007 12:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha
oh man that gets funnier each time
Spider pig, spider pig does whatever a spider pig does.

by wadswerth on Aug 2, 2007 12:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Besides, who gives a fuck even if we said it was
ok for you to do so. That doesn't make it a non douchebag thing to do.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Aug 2, 2007 12:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

his mom would
probably think it was a nambla meeting or something. plus he probably has a curfew aswell. and taking the bus and all that shit... to much for him
Spider pig, spider pig does whatever a spider pig does.

by wadswerth on Aug 2, 2007 12:19 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was going to make a John Olerud Sucks sign
Either that or tell Wlad not to add him on myspace. By the way Coach it is just you, he added me today after the game.

by Robert on Aug 2, 2007 12:22 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he added my friend as well
or at least, that what he told me.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Aug 2, 2007 12:24 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha
cold as ice and funny as hell
Spider pig, spider pig does whatever a spider pig does.

by wadswerth on Aug 2, 2007 12:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not tryin to rub it in or be a dick
It's probably just the age thing. I deny all minors unless I'm sure I know them, friends of my brother, etc.

by hcoguy on Aug 2, 2007 12:33 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unless its a hot chick...
am I right guys, am I right??

</shamelessness>

anyways, just kidding, yeah I'm definitely the same way, and I can imagine a big time ball player would be even more picky about who he adds

by thenatural on Aug 2, 2007 12:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know what you mean
Hell, on Facebook I don't even confirm people I know half the time.

by Graham on Aug 2, 2007 12:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPECIALLY if its a hot chick
I live in Missouri which has some of the most lax statuatory laws, but damn, those growth hormones in our food are doing wonders.

BTW, 17 is fine, 16 is cool if you're 18... I'm 23 so I'm not sure why I should even know that.

by hcoguy on Aug 2, 2007 12:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmmm
think i did the one on the right.

by hcoguy on Aug 2, 2007 12:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they both
looked 18 to me
Spider pig, spider pig does whatever a spider pig does.

by wadswerth on Aug 2, 2007 12:51 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No matter how many times I watch that GIF
I always check if I can see more skin on those chicks

by Robert on Aug 2, 2007 12:51 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FUCKIN EH!
I watched it several times, yup. the one on the right really does look familiar.

by hcoguy on Aug 2, 2007 12:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha me too
thats gotta hurt your pride

by thenatural on Aug 2, 2007 12:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate my life.
I seriously do.
I am not Coach Owens!

by Coach Owens on Aug 2, 2007 12:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why do you ask a question
Then do the exact opposite of what we tell you?

by Robert on Aug 2, 2007 12:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whats it all about Will?
could it have something to do with a desperate need for attention?? Daddy/Mommy didn't hug me enough?? me thinks i stumbled across the answer to the big question...

I promised myself I was going to stay out of this stupid discussion, but this guy just loves doing this shit, so it seems to be somewhat unavoidable.

by thenatural on Aug 2, 2007 12:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hear ya
but i do feel sorry for him a bit and trying to help explain the shit since he doesnt seem to get it. but it doesnt even go in one ear and out the other, it just bounces of his thick fucking skull
Spider pig, spider pig does whatever a spider pig does.

by wadswerth on Aug 2, 2007 12:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

every time you think that
just think of Reggie Willits. The baseball player who never gets to swing the bat. That my friend, is hell.

by hcoguy on Aug 2, 2007 12:51 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not to mention
the ethnically ambiguous name that his crackwhore mother gave him.

by hcoguy on Aug 2, 2007 12:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't let it bother you Coach/Will
this one is one me.  I gave you props for getting under their skin and I shouldn't have.  I'd chalk up what I said to game thread emotion - I was so happy we won that I didn't care what happened.  You were still wrong for trolling, but I slightly (barely?) provoked you to do so.

Bottom line..don't take anything you read in a gamethread seriously.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Aug 2, 2007 1:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Felix is funny...
talking about how he was getting pissed that they kept asking him if he needed to come out between each inning after the collision.

by thenatural on Aug 2, 2007 12:03 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Parting shot before bed:
In an impossibly ironic turn of events, the Angels were done in by Reggie Willits swinging at a ball.

by Jeff on Aug 2, 2007 12:09 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

poetic
enjoy seattle... I wish I could. Not until the 10th, and I have to settle for the White Sox because of my vacation schedule... sucks

by thenatural on Aug 2, 2007 12:16 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am so ridiculously happy this series is over
because, try as I might, I'm just not strong enough to resist the urge to see what's being said over at Halos Heaven. The less said about that spasming contest of a blog, the better.

Of course, now we get to play Boston! Should be interesting. Oh, who am I kidding, we're going to stink more than the smell of bong water on the floor of Jeff Weaver's car.

by Slozbury Stouvre on Aug 2, 2007 12:14 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are angel fans
what do you expect? i havent been to HH ever because the only thing angels related i care about is them losing and i doubt i will get insight into that there.
Spider pig, spider pig does whatever a spider pig does.

by wadswerth on Aug 2, 2007 12:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have never
Wanted a last place team wanted to win a meaningless August game more than I want Texas to win tommorow. I don't care if there are 55+ games left and it would be by less than .001 percentage points, I want to be in the playoffs for one night.

by Robert on Aug 2, 2007 12:20 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Say
Weren't the Angels one-hundred and twenty zillion and Oh when leading after the 8th inning or something?

by ThundaPC on Aug 2, 2007 12:25 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hard to find stat.
Best I can come up with is this http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/post_gazette_smizik4/

The Pirates, since 2001, are 377-21 when leading after 8. I don't think they have been noted as having a good bullpen, starting pitching, offense, defense, or ownership in that time period.

by hcoguy on Aug 2, 2007 1:02 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah
Teams don't usually lose once they have a lead in the later innings.  Sure, bad bullpens blow games, but usually, teams hang on for the win.

by Gomez on Aug 2, 2007 9:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This might just be...
the most hilariously bipolar team in the history of baseball.

by Robert on Aug 2, 2007 12:48 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont believe this.
Im coming to the Coach's rescue.  You all suck.

Post 1:

I would look the other way if
Coach left his mark on that post.

Post 2 after Coach did exactly that:

Owens got under their skin
good job Coach!

by MFAN on Wed Aug 01, 2007 at 11:43:29 PM PDT

Your bad, LL.  Now shut up about it.

I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Aug 2, 2007 12:56 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was joking
but sure, I'll take the blame.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Aug 2, 2007 12:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and in my defense
I typed that before he trolled over there tonight.  I meant that has in "Owens has got under their skin over the past two months".

But again, I'll take the blame.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Aug 2, 2007 1:01 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm going to start using that as my excuse for
everything.

Do something bad at work? Game thread emotion.

Cheat on the girlfriend? Game thread emotion.

Kill a hooker? Game thread emotion.

These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Aug 2, 2007 1:12 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game thread emotion
Almost got me killed after the Colorado game last year.

by Robert on Aug 2, 2007 1:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From Baker's blog
Tired of players spouting the party line, as so many of them did after the Mariners stood still at the trade deadline? Well, here's a non party-line quote from Jose Guillen, who pulled me aside and told me he's absolutely "pissed off'' about the Jones promotion.

"I just hope they understand this isn't Triple-A,'' he told me. "This is the big leagues.''

"This is a totally different league,'' he continued. "I understand he's a good prospect and he's ready. But this team has been good. I just completely don't understand that move right there.''

by Robert on Aug 2, 2007 1:42 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

9 infield hits
4 by the Angels, including an infield double, and 5 by the Mariners. Weirdest game ever. Also, someone needs to tell Lopez that he fell into a time vortex and that it is perpetually April.

Incidentally, if you dare to venture into HH, you'll see that now tit is being said that JJ is a bad closer, and in support of this he states the belief that the All Star Game matters. Good stuff.

What do I look like, a guy who's not lazy?

by Rollo Tomasi on Aug 2, 2007 2:43 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We all know Rev's an idiot
Panther, bitch.
I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Aug 2, 2007 2:44 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jose Guillen is a dumbass.
Notwithstanding Guillen's impressive statline against left-handed pitchers (.396/1.147) and cannon of an arm, the guy has terrible range in right field (Zone Rating: .792) and is well-known as a petulant malcontent throughout Major League Baseball.

As it is, I wouldn't be against Guillen being placed on waivers with the objective of letting another team claim him for free. With Wladimir Balentien currently tearing it up with the Tacoma Rainiers, Guillen would probably be better served as a designated hitter for a mediocre team (e.g., the Minnesota Twins) than he would be staying here.

Of course, I'm the same guy who wants Richie Sexson to be immediately waived with the irrational hope that the New York Yankees might claim him; thus, my ideas should be taken with a grain of salt.

by AK1984 on Aug 2, 2007 3:03 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You've been dissing Guillen for a while.
An ~.800 OPS by a righthanded hitter in Safeco Field is quite welcome.

His defense is better than Raul's, and left field in Safeco is bigger than right field, so putting Jones in left makes a lot more sense. As for being a petulant malcontent, how has this negatively affected our team?

What do I look like, a guy who's not lazy?

by Rollo Tomasi on Aug 2, 2007 3:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Truthfully, I agree with you.
Unlike Raul Ibañez, Jose Guillen isn't an over-the-hill has-been whose best days are behind him. Nonetheless, I'm still heavily perturbed by Guillen's ill-tempered surliness toward Adam Jones' well-earned promotion.

In any event, though, the Seattle Mariners would be best served with Wladimir Balentien in right field, Adam Jones in left field, and a platoon of Guillen and Ibañez at designated hitter -- with Jose Vidro being used as a pinch hitter -- however, that scenario will probably never come to fruition.

by AK1984 on Aug 2, 2007 3:48 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As I said in the diary
I'm not too concerned about Guillen's statements because I'm relatively sure he'll sing a different tune when Jones starts contributing to the team in positive ways.

However, it is August now.  We all wanted Jones up a month ago (or earlier) so his impact on the team would be bigger.  At this point, he's going to get into about 50 games, probably only about 175 at bats, and only about 400 innings of defense.  And that's assuming that McLaren actually plays him.

If Jones ends up getting the Ellison treatment, then there really was no reason to promote him.

I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not make jokes in my sig. I will not...

by TIF on Aug 2, 2007 3:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No one falls for the...
"We'll pull him if you claim him" trick anymore, ever since some team put in a claim for someone and ended up with the check AND package.
Detect-O-Vision

Favor the Bold

by IcebreakerX on Aug 2, 2007 3:16 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kevin Towers once made a huge mistake.
As is noted within the following article, the San Diego Padres carelessly claimed Randy Myers off of waivers from the Toronto Blue Jays in 1998.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/1998/08/06/myers_padres_update/

Inarguably, that precedent makes it highly unlikely that an overpaid, underperforming hack like Richie Sexson would be claimed off of waivers.

by AK1984 on Aug 2, 2007 3:40 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why use a fifth starter when you don't need one?
Especially when your fifth starter is Horacio "1K/BB " Ramirez. Any theories?

by Susheel Ramasahayam on Aug 2, 2007 4:16 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Especially this weekend
We could just skip HoRam and go straight to Washburn on Friday night.

by naviomelo on Aug 2, 2007 4:56 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unless
This is a calculated decision to skip HoRam's start in Baltimore instead...but somehow I think that involves too much foresight.

by naviomelo on Aug 2, 2007 4:59 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel your pain..
I wake up at 4 am every morning to go to work.  The  moment JJ gave up that HR I knew it was time to get the coffee ready for the morning.

by Christopher Michael on Aug 2, 2007 6:17 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn damn damn
I had to leave at the bottom of the 10th to drive home. Now I'm home, 500 miles later. I wish I would've stayed.

Shit shit shit

by I'm NOT Corco on Aug 2, 2007 6:29 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll be honest
That moment of joy was preceded by about an hour of pain.

by Gomez on Aug 2, 2007 9:23 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm kinda glad I missed the game
I was following via text messages and LL on my phone but the battery died after Putz blew the save. I was clueless to what was happening and when I got home and saw Jeff's post, I assumed that it meant Yuni had popped out with the bases loaded and Guillen was trying to kill him.

by Robert on Aug 2, 2007 9:29 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here is my morning song
I really need to learn the html to post youtube

I love the white stripes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Cz_vlwSx4

Hey Raul, Richie, Vidro please quit. Thank you NB

by InSpokane on Aug 2, 2007 9:22 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm counting those two threads under this one
as part of the gamethreads, so we have a total of 2056 posts for that game. New record.
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Aug 2, 2007 10:11 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slight update
Cleveland up 2-0 over the Rangers in the 5th, still could go either way.

Yankees though?  Clemens is getting absolutely trashed by the White Sox...8-0 in the 2nd.

by ThundaPC on Aug 2, 2007 10:39 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good lord
will the yankees please just die already
8-5

by Eldukey on Aug 2, 2007 11:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and it's 8-8
I hate you Yankees
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Aug 2, 2007 11:22 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

White Sox
Oh how the mighty have fallen.

by ThundaPC on Aug 2, 2007 11:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fuckin yankees
Nice to see Clemens trashed. That was a great contract...

by hcoguy on Aug 2, 2007 11:53 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My fantasy team am cry
Rajah ;_;

that'll teach me to miss the draft.

Free Adam Jones

by bluemax on Aug 2, 2007 12:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But, But, But, But, But, But, But, But, But...
<ESPN> Clemens' contract is the biggest bargain in baseball! </ESPN>

by ThundaPC on Aug 2, 2007 12:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So Indians win
Now we're rooting for the A's.

by phil333 on Aug 2, 2007 12:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

White Sox up 11-8 in the 5th now
Anybody noticed that Ichiro has taken a 3 point lead over Ordonez in the batting title race?
These pretzels....are making me thirsty!

by Goose on Aug 2, 2007 12:28 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anyone watching the fsn replay
lets start a whole new game thread

JOHJIMA DOUBLE

by Eldukey on Aug 2, 2007 12:34 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just thinking...
Now that the Nats signed Young, what do you guys think of Nick Johnson.  He fills the same role as Broussard but we could use another LHB and he actually walks.

by Edgar for Pres on Aug 2, 2007 3:05 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I usually feel bad about
cutting and pasting sections but screw ESPN and I don't want to make you guys read it all.  Its about the Mariners at the deadline:

There's no team we feel sorrier for than the Mariners. As a scout from another club put it, "They had more scouts out there seeing pitchers than most teams have out for World Series coverage." Name one pitcher whose name you heard in any rumor, and the Mariners either checked him out or made a serious bid on him. One GM nominated them as The Team That Was Most Likely to Have Traded for Mark Buehrle. But Buehrle foiled that plan by re-signing with the White Sox. Next on Seattle's starting pitchers list were Jon Garland and Matt Morris. But Garland turned out to be unaffordable, and Morris pitched so badly, he plummeted right off the radar screen of everyone but the Pirates. Last up: The Mariners hung in to the end on Dotel and on Tampa Bay's Al Reyes. But they wound up with none of the above. So can they stay with the Angels with their current staff? "It all depends on [just-reactivated] Mark Lowe and on Horacio Ramirez staying healthy in the rotation," one scout said. "They don't have a lot of room for error."

by Edgar for Pres on Aug 2, 2007 3:22 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's good to hear.
They were aggresive without being stupid.
What do I look like, a guy who's not lazy?

by Rollo Tomasi on Aug 2, 2007 3:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think this is putting it kindly.
"They don't have a lot of room for error"

I'm pretty sure we all knew that already though.

"I'm not familiar with this type of... thing I'm seeing"

by Thingray on Aug 2, 2007 3:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmmm
"Horacio Ramirez staying healthy in the rotation,"

ESPN seems to be off again, how is Ho's health important?? If he gets hurt Baek or Feierabend steps in and there would hardly be any drop-off(actually it would probably be an upgrade).  Ramirez health is the least of my concerns with the team.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOHNNY MAC?!?!

by MFAN on Aug 2, 2007 3:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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