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4/6: Open Game Thread

Wbc_029_tiny by Jeff Sullivan on in Seattle Mariners News, Regular

1:20pm update: start time's been pushed back to 2:00pm PDT, but whether or not it actually happens is still up in the air. Tomorrow's game was pushed up to 10:05am, instead of 4:05pm. See Geoff Baker's blog for details.

First Pitch: 1:05pm PDT?

                   

Ichiro CF Sizemore CF Beltre 3B Michaels LF Vidro "DH" Hafner MVP Ibanez LF Martinez C Sexson 1B Blake RF Guillen RF Garko 1B Johjima C Peralta SS Betancourt SS Barfield 2B Lopez 2B Marte 3B ---------- ----------

Ho (0-0, -.--)         Byrd (0-0, -.--)

We'll see if this thing actually takes place - Cleveland already had some minor league affiliates snowed out, so keep an eye on Let's Go Tribe for the weather report. If we do end up having a game, it'll be, uh, well, Cleveland just put up a .963 OPS in three games against the White Sox, so I guess the closer the temperature gets to absolute zero, the better, since the only time the Mariner lineup can approximate Cleveland's is when both are rendered incapable of swinging the bat.

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Grady Sizemore
has balls of steel. You can hear them clang as he swings. Luckily, the cold weather should make things awkward for him.
The trouble is, as USSM pointed out, Travis Hafner alone drew as many walks in two games as the mariners in three.
Then again, the mariners faced A's pitching in relatively warm weather, while the Indians faced a disintegrating Sox staff in the frigid circle of hell which the locals call Ohio.
Conclusion: Ho Ram will get knocked around but give the Cleveland lineup some kind of clap in the process, making them too itchy and 'uncomfortable' to swing the bat well against Weaver.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 6, 2007 8:23 AM PDT reply actions  

That's it!
Give Joh some magnets!  That's slow Grady down.

Just make sure he's not holding them in his hands when Sizemore comes up, because, well...

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

And technically,
Hafner got all 4 walks in one game, meaning he got as many BBs in a couple of hours of work as the M's got in three games.  

by marc w on Apr 6, 2007 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
Like you'd give Pronk a pitch to hit.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

But what about Willie?
If they play today that means we get to see Willie's first start since Betancourt is in court today.  You know Willie will be out on the field today for 9 regardless whether they play the official game or not! - That's how dedicated he is.

Also, given Weaver's history against good lefties.  Is anyone else concerned with a potential fireworks show tomorrow.  Sizemore, Nixon, Hafner, Martinez, and Dellucci.  We'll see how that change into the left handed hitter works out.

by Safeco Hobo on Apr 6, 2007 8:25 AM PDT reply actions  

He'd probably have a better time
beaning every LH batter he faces.  I mean a walk isn't as bad as a HR.

The real question is how far they are going to go.  I say he gives up a shot that goes 448 ft.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 6, 2007 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't remember the physics involved...
But don't the longest homeruns come off 90's fastballs? I am probably wrong but I remember reading or hearing something about it along long long time ago. I think it was right around the time Mark Mc hit that absolute monster off of Randy in the Kingdome.
Beer...giving my kidneys and liver a job since 1990.

by Ben in Va on Apr 6, 2007 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Mac vs. RJ in the 'Dome...
I was at that game, and let's not forget that RJ had 19 Ks that night.  And lost.

Up until Monday, that was the best pitching performance I'd ever seen in person.  Felix on Opening Day, however, just bumped that game off the top...

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Back then, I was in Vegas and remember ESPN
cutting live to that game when RJ got to 18, because he had a shot at 20, but he didn't quite get there.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only RJ start I ever made it to
Was his no-hitter against the Tigers in the Kingdome back in June of 1990.

I just remember alot of people not realizing what was going on because Randy was walking everyone that night. There were Tigers all over the basepaths.

By the 8th inning though the Kingdome was rocking. I still have my tickets stubs for that game.

Ah memories....

Beer...giving my kidneys and liver a job since 1990.

by Ben in Va on Apr 6, 2007 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw Randy in September of 95 against the A's
It was a shutout. Needless to say, it was vintage Unit. Absolutely dominate.

I got a foul ball hit by Griffey that evening, too.

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by Katal LM on Apr 6, 2007 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Video of the monster HR...
...I have always wanted to see that, does anyone have a link?

by EnglishMariner on Apr 6, 2007 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

In the DB
Yes.  I'll build the admin portion later tonight.
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

One game already called
Minnesota vs. White Sox has been postponed.
Beer...giving my kidneys and liver a job since 1990.

by Ben in Va on Apr 6, 2007 9:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Its supposed to snow thru Thursday
So I imagine they will be being at least half of the games in this weather.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since we had an off day
We should switch Washburn and Felix in the rotation. I don't know if I want Felix pitching in 30 degree weather. Plus Felix v. Dice-K would be sick.

by Corco on Apr 6, 2007 9:43 AM PDT reply actions  

no no no
They are my top pitchers on my Fantasy roster. I was hoping they would never face each other.

by InSpokane on Apr 6, 2007 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please, please, please
I would love to see this as would just about every MLB fan.  It is going to be fun watching Felix and Dice-K vying for the K leader board.

To think that many M's fans thought he'd be our number two starter right now :(

by manyoso on Apr 6, 2007 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think whenever Matzo ball*
pitches against the M's it will be the highest rated game of the night because its Joh, Ichiro, and him all in one.

*I'm so tired of flattering nicknames for him (Dice-K, D-Mat, Ice-K cometh, etc) I'm starting to only refer to him in vaguely pejorative terms. I don't care if he's awesome. Fuck him. Fuck him with a dirty mop. None should have that much PR.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 6, 2007 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, you finally understand
the pain I was going through last winter.

I've just been going with "matsunantoka", roughly "matsu-whateverthehellhisnameis".

Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Apr 6, 2007 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

well
I don't think he would have ever been our #2 the Bo-Sox spent almost the entire M's budget to get him.

Also as Deanna stated"I would like to point out
That he debuted against the Royals."

So we will see if he was worth it.

by InSpokane on Apr 6, 2007 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

to be fair,
I'm not sure the Mariners batting is any better than the Royals lineup right now :)
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Apr 6, 2007 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man
This weather sure has jacked up a lot of rotations and routines.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't HoRam
Scheduled to face Dice-K?

by ThundaPC on Apr 6, 2007 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

King Felix VS Dice-K
Felix is at the top in nearly all categories in the early leader board.  He leads the league with 12 K's this early in the season with Dice-K two SO behind.  However, Dice-K leads the league in SO/Walk ratio with Felix two spots behind.

by manyoso on Apr 6, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

AND
Sammy Sosa has an OPS+ of 7.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

In other crazy stats:
Miguel Cabrera has already created 12 runs. If you go by the whole 10 runs equals a win, doesn't that mean that Miguel Cabrera, only three games into the season, is already worth one win over replacement?
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's worth 12 runs over
Not having anyone in that lineup spot. It's not quite replacement.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

So what you're saying
is that he is 12 runs better than Vidro?
"You guys should be in every major city. This is some heavy shit. This is, like, Lone Ranger heavy, man."

by AZSEAfan on Apr 6, 2007 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably more
If nobody was there, there wouldn't be any double plays.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know what I'd like to see?
The Vidro Shift: 6 guys standing in the middle of the infield, with 1B in his usual spot and the battery as usual.  The 6 guys can even hot potato the inevitable grounder to 1st (and probably still beat Vidro to 1st by about 20 steps).

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay early start time!!
Finally don't have to stay up until 1PM

by Wolf on Apr 6, 2007 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Great point
by exileincincy at Let's Go Tribe:

I don't know much about how schedules are constructed but this makes no sense. There a plently of warm weather franchises, so why can't the April schedule be tilted in that direction? Wouldn't it make a lot of sense for Tampa to host a lot of early season games, for example. I think extreme weather heightens injury risk and MLB is taking unnecessary risks by scheduling early April games up north.

I don't get it either.  It really isn't rocket science to put more early series in the warmer south, or with north teams who play in climate controlled stadia.  I know that this would mean precious few series in April for some teams, but with the weather in the 20's and 30's, I think their fans would be cool with that (HA COOL WITH THAT SEE WHAT I DID THERE).

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

It strikes me as odd
That Vidro has made more outs than he has at-bats.

This means that, so far, we'd have been better off having an automatic out as our DH in the 3-hole. Yaaaaay Vidro.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 12:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I admit it
Right now, at this point, I'd rather have Mike Morse at DH than Vidro.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I said on Baker's blog.
I'd rather have Bucky.

I'd bet that even with his bum knee, Bucky'd outrun Vidro in a foot race.  And, his strikeouts and flyouts would do much less damage in the 3-hole than Vidro's GIDPs...

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, speaking of Bucky
Geoff Baker ran into him during his flight to Cleveland.  Bucky's on his way to play for a team in the Mexican League.

One side benefit of taking the Seattle-Houston-Cleveland route today is that the guy sitting in the row just opposite mine was none other than Bucky Jacobsen. Haven't seen him since researching that profile we ran back in January. Spoke on the phone with him a couple of times and he told me he'd been dissed by the Japanese League, turned down by Korea and was hoping to play in Mexico. Well, the Mexican thing apparently fell through as well until yesterday morning, when Jacobsen got a 7 a.m. phone call from a team in Tobasco (yes, they're on a real hot streak -- ha! ha!). It's the Tobasco Olmecas, if you must know. Tobasco is a southern Mexican state on the Gulf Coast. Anyway, turns out that team has already played about a dozen games, but is in need of Jacobsen ASAP. He didn't bother asking why, has no idea if someone got hurt. But he was on today's 7:55 a.m. flight to Houston, then off to Mexico from there.

He booked so quickly they stuck him in a coach class middle seat. A flight attendant was able to switch him to a window, completely freaking out the 3-year-old girl who'd been sitting in the middle with her mother on the aisle. The girl was obviously terrified at the sight of a 6-foot-7, 270-pound behemoth moving in next to her, but Jacobsen handled it in stride, the Mom switched to the middle seat for takeoff and everyone calmed down within minutes. I'd have helped out, but, well, I had the opposite aisle seat. No way I'm giving that up, even for a nice guy like Jacobsen. He watched some of the last three games at Safeco on television, but admits it gets hard at times. He's trying to look forward, not back. This stint in Mexico was about as tough as it can be for a former major-leaguer to land a playing job. But he's making the best of it. Same guy. Wearing a T-shirt, shorts and carrying a duffel bag. He told me to pass along good wishes to former Tacoma teammate George Sherrill and he knows that many of you -- through your emails -- wished him good luck when we ran our story two months ago.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.
That's why I posted that comment...
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love
to see Bucky work himself into better shape, and make a comeback, even if it only lasts a year.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I keep seeing them
and their irrelevance annoys me more and more each time.  It's bad advertising that makes them look out of touch.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I'm honest
I'd rather we have you at DH than Vidro, Gomez.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

New idea for drinking game
Start with a pint. When Vidro hits the ball, see how much you can get down before he gets to first. If you finish it, you win and don't have to play anymore. If you don't, top it up and try again!

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

You kidding?
I'd be drunk by the 4th inning.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he'd only bat like twice by then
And I'm pretty sure I can down a pint in 10 seconds...

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

My best friend
could hammer 2 Guinness pints in 60 seconds... but then again, he was also able to drop half a bottle of whiskey in a night, so take that for what it's worth.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh. Guinness
My first drink was a Guinness, and I've avoided it since.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm no fan either. Too thick and bleh taste.
The only UK brews I've been exposed to that I enjoyed were Bass and Boddington's.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a big fan of Guiness
I just think its a little overrated.  The foam is great but the beer never lives up to what I think it should be.  Maybe I expect too much after I see it poured into a glass.  I'd say I almost expect it to be a little more flavorful.

Bass is really good and I've just started to realize this.  I don't know what it is but its just a good all around beer.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 6, 2007 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bass is pretty good.
Nothing fantastic, but it's always on tap.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are we beer threading it again?
If we are, then as of last night I can highly recommend both of the following:

Westmalle Tripel

Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier Weizen

(The second one even smells like BBQ'd sausage. Terrific.)

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm having
An Old Speckled Hen to accompany the game thread tonight. I don't drink anything but bitter anymore.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reyka Vodka
Icelandic Vodka, just about right for a chilly day like this :o)
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by MarkE on Apr 6, 2007 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

B... B... Q... sausage
I'm now VERY curious and want to try it.  Of course, I can't imagine where in Seattle I could possibly find it, and I can barely say the name sober....

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't say it either.
I pointed.

It shouldn't be impossible to find, since they had it at a regular Irish pub a few blocks away. You have to find it - one of the more unique beer-drinking experiences I've ever had. (And pleasingly so.)

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a good sign
Some diehard beer joint here has to have it, then.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Try Top Foods.
I've seen it there on occasion.

There's a Chevron down the street from me here in Oly that has it.  I first had it at Archers in Bellingham.  Not sure what the status of that place is.

Ask for "Smoke" beer.  That's the translation -- hence the "BBQ" aroma.  I've equated it to drinking beef jerky, so, yeah.

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also worth mentioning:
All three of the following exist:

-Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier Märzen

-Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier Urbock

-Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier Weizen

I've only had the wheat, so I can't make any promises about the other two. Pretty sure Paul likes the Marzen, though.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had 'em all.
They're all damn good.  The Märzen seems to be the most widely available, if 'widely' is the right word to use...
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't wait until I turn 21
Your country's drinking age really annoys me, by the way.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

SWEET
There's a Top Foods in Shoreline.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude you found Schlenkerla??
Didn't I tell ya you needed to get some!

Different, sure, but damn good!

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The aroma was incredible.
Dammit, my taste in beer is getting way too expensive.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

An appropriate tidbit from Baker
submitted sans comment:

Jose Guillen has a full-face ski mask on -- the kind favored by bank robbers....

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 12:58 PM PDT reply actions  

What Baker neglected to mention
is that Guillen had the same mask for all three of the Oakland games, and for all of ST, and for his press conference, and...

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

So long as it isn't a
carl everett mask, he can wear whatever the hell he wants

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 6, 2007 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Delayed start might mean Betancourt
makes it back for the game. Go snow go and then stop.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Dude, YES!
Love that glove!
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know there was a ban on it
But then again, I'm not too familiar with the rulebook.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's the gist:
If you come up with an idea and it sounds neat, you aren't allowed to do it.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

As the article states, it's dubious
given Greg Harris was allowed to do it in one game in 1995.  They should just remove any formal restriction on doing it (not really sure why it's there in the first place), so long as rules remain for declaring which side you pitch from, and warm up pitches.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read
it as saying you can switch arms all you want, you just can't do it in the middle of an at-bat. Also, you don't get any extra warm-up pitches.
"Kittens give Morbo gas!"

by Thingray on Apr 6, 2007 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Robinson Tejada weird game
vs. Boston.

1 K, 4 groundouts, 16 flyouts in Texas, but 0 runs. Ryan Franklin 2003 returns!

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

As long as
he doesn't try to be too fine.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's okay
as long as he thinks he pitched good, threw good pitches.

If he throws one or two bad ones, he can just blame his teammates for not giving him run support.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well
For some reason, MLB.tv had the lineup featuring WFB for a while, and just a few minutes ago the lineup switched to having Betancourt.

wonder if he'll make it back in time for the game.

by PShwa on Apr 6, 2007 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

So what happens if they cant this game in
and the weather doesn't get any better this weekend? The M's don't travel back to Cleveland at all this year. Brilliant work by the MLB on the schedule.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

By the way
neither here nor there, but holy crap, Rise Against is awesome.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Saw them live once with Alexisonfire
They put on a good show, go out and see them if you get the chance.  Alexis too.
We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Apr 6, 2007 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I missed my chance.
They were in San Diego like three days before I got home for Spring Break.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Muse keep doing that to me
Bastards always playing Seattle when I'm on a plane to Heathrow.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh.
Muse is always in Europe when I'm in San Diego. And naturally, when I was in Europe a few months ago, they were in San Diego.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Muse is pretty awesome in concert
I saw them at Endfest in 04. Besides POTUSA they were the only decent band there.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I've heard.
Seeing them live is pretty high on my to-do list.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem when I saw them
was that they were sandwiched between Metric and Franz Ferdinand, so the crowd was pretty much dead when they were on stage. This in conjection to (ugh) the Mars Volta almost ruining System of A Down live, proved to me how important an opening act is. That being said Tenacious D had a terrible comedian open for them and they still rocked my socks off.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neil Hamburger
Is the D's comedian...he was in the movie.  They use him as a purposely bad comedian to get the crowd fired up for the D...I heard a rumor they're going to use the Seattle performance I was at (night 2) for the concert DVD...that would be rad....

Can't say I'm a huge fan of System of a Down, but aside from De-Loused in the Comatorium which was Brilliant, and the Tremulant EP, Mars Volta has been pretty much crap.  They're god awful live, and I've heard they get offended when you bring up At the Drive-In, a much better band.

I reccomend going to a lot of small little intimate shows.  I got into a lot of good bands like The Look, Bear vs. Shark, Fear Before the March of Flames, Since By Man, The Fall of Troy, Tera Melos, etc.  That's if you like hardcore bands...  I definitely suggest The Unicorns, Islands, Mon Frere, and Minus the Bear if you'd like something a little softer...

Sorry for ranting guys.  I love my music.

We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Apr 6, 2007 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get to go to many concerts
But I really like the small local ones.

Especially The Divorce.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn it
I was at the first night right in front of the camera. Some of those you listed were pretty good, though I'm getting more and more into the really heavy stuff.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude
Neil Hamburger is a fucking genius.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey!
I was Alexisonfire's Roadie for their Europe Tour for the Watch Out album.  Best dudes ever.
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by Christian on Apr 6, 2007 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any reason I'm getting black notice for MLB.tv
The game isn't televised here in Seattle, so what reason is there for it being blacked out?  I know it hasn't started yet, but still...
We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Apr 6, 2007 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

You're in Seattle?
If you live in the market, all games are blacked out.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strange.
That wasn't the case last year.  I managed to get all the non-televised Seattle games.  Maybe MLB just didn't realize where I lived.  I bought MLB.tv for Vacation with an Edmonds billing address, and it worked just fine here...I almost beat the system, damn.
We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Apr 6, 2007 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah?
I didn't know it worked that way. In that case, I have no idea why it's not working today.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you use a proxy.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

proxies i've tried...
..don't allow the java script to load which gives the links to the schedule.  any recommended sites?

br

by sirbrianwilson on Apr 6, 2007 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you download and install
democrakey to a USB jump drive, it has a Proxy built right into a custom version of Firefox. This is also incredibly useful for browsing the web while at work while avoid those nasty pink slips.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, they're struggling to get this one going
I almost want them to just cancel the whole series and try this some other time.  Not sure when that would be, but still....

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Well I'm gonna miss this game regardless
So if they get it in, GO MARINERS!
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

All right
Those of you hanging around should notice a new browser title bar when you're on the main page...

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

ooh, nice
Maybe the Rev will respond by calling us a name like "The Microsucks".

Or maybe he'll predict an Angels victory before every single game of the season.

Or maybe HH will just continue to be, by far, the worst Sports Nation blog.

I expect all three to occur.

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by Katal LM on Apr 6, 2007 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You, sir, are a psychic
So am I.

I predict that Jose Vidro will GIDP and take 36 minutes to go from home to 1st.

I predict that Rick Rizzs will say something phony, and Dave Niehaus, bless his heart, will misjudge the flight of a flyball.

I predict that a Mariners SP not named Felix will get shelled.

All these things will also happen.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I anticipate
a completely original joke about coffee and coffee drinkers and how Seattle sells a lot of coffee and coffee-related products.

by patsfan on Apr 6, 2007 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

They may as well
given they're so full of shit RIMSHOT

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh that drives me mad
I have had lived in Seattle for the last 10 years and I absolutely despise coffee.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here
although I do enjoy Nirvana.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like both
Nirvana Unplugged is awesome, and almost everything from Alice in Chains rocks. I'm partial to "Rain when I die"....
"Kittens give Morbo gas!"

by Thingray on Apr 6, 2007 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever
I digitally put Jabba the Hutt back into the original Star Wars movie! I'll do what I want!

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why
Lookout Landing rules.
Visiting A's fan.

by Philip Christy on Apr 6, 2007 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

darn
My students are taking a test right now, so I thought I'd log in to see how the game's doing.

Every game this series had better be played. I refuse to let the weather stop me from seeing Felix next Friday night.

no signature necessary

by Katal LM on Apr 6, 2007 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy volume
If this game keeps getting delayed and is never played this thread will still make 350 hits.
JPWood

by JPWood on Apr 6, 2007 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Vidro vs Byrd
7 for 11

2 homers

So extending that naturally, in 3 ABs vs Byrd today natural expectancy should be 2 hits and a .5 chance of a homer.

We'll see...

MarkE's M's games:
25/4/06 - M's 0 Tigers 2
14/4/07 - M's v Rangers
17/4/07 - M's v Twins

P1 W0 L1 (.000)

by MarkE on Apr 6, 2007 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm sure
most of those hits came back when Vidro had knees and something resembling a figure.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the...
how the fuck did we already make three outs?

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy shit
How did Yuni nearly catch that ball?

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh.
And.

Antonetti in '08.

Thanks.

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Ramirez has a good pickoff move.
Comes with the experience of having a lot of baserunners. Trust me on this one.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Bad move Sizemore
stealing on a pitcher whose move you've never seen.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

When Ho gets two strikes
they should count it as a strikeout.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

To be fair
Ramirez looks like he's getting squeezed. That 1-0 and 2-0 to Hafner looked like a strike to me.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Off the plate.
He's not getting the Felix zone, that's for sure.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

ended up off the plate
but it must have crossed over it considering the angle

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
He's not getting anything on the fringe

by oneiric232 on Apr 6, 2007 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea
you'd think the home ump would want to get this game over quickly and expand the zone instead of shrinking it to the size of JV's average.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well
Somebody needs to score for this game to end.  He figures, "Might as well be the team with actual sluggers."

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

strikes would be nice
Ramirez has Batista-itis
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Ugh.
15 pitches.
5 strikes.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 2:16 PM PDT reply actions  

god
that Sizemore SB attempt was such a waste of an out....thankfully
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

We're going to get creamed in this game
ump isn't giving the low strike and the Ms hitters aren't patient enough to exploit that.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Bloody hell
I really need more than one bottle of beer to get me through this game, I think.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously guys
that's like the last thing Ramirez needs.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Bloomquist
Would've made that play with Buhner's entire fist shoved up his ...

Er. Wait.

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

pray for snow
this thing can still be cancelled
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

nope, rule changes
all postponed games are resumed, not started over.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do believe....
That's only after 5 innings in a tie ballgame.

by PLU Tim on Apr 6, 2007 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh.
They should just play flag football instead.  Sorry, St. Ricco, it's NOT a good day out for baseball...
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

hmmm
Morrow sighting today?

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm from California
and I don't pitch like a little pussy when it's cold.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

well, Horacio
pitches like a pussy regardless of the weather.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chavez to Ramirez
"Why the fuck did we trade Raffy Soriano for you, you piece of crap"

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Mound conference
Chaves: All right, Joel, what the fuck are you thinking?
Ho: I'm not Joel.
Chaves: Could've fooled me.
Ho: ...
Chaves: Seriously, fuck you guy.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Sigh.
Gameday is still trying to figure out what happened.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

All I got is GameDay
And DirecTV is hosing me with High School sports.  There goes a potential customer.

by ThundaPC on Apr 6, 2007 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

sooooo
what exactly does Horacio have in his arsenal?

I count:
high 80s fastball
low 80s slider with no break

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

STRIKEOUT
CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS HUG EACH OTHER

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow
Garko that was a beltre-esque strikeout

by PShwa on Apr 6, 2007 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

K!

He'll catch Felix's total on Monday in mid-May sometime.

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Christ.
HoRam is terrible.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Gameday is obviously lagging.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh the black hole
mlb.tv blacked out, Gameday is sucking, I don't get radio in my room, komoradio.com stream doesn't cover the M's -- just regular news.  This is horrible.

by Egaas on Apr 6, 2007 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Doesn't MLBtv
also give you gameday audio?

by PLU Tim on Apr 6, 2007 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

So
Why don't people try pickoffs more at 3-2?

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuck me.
How did HoRam get out of that suckfest only allowing one run?
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

nice 35 pitch inning
thank you Beltre you knoblauchian piece of shit.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Yuni!
Thank goodness Bloomquist isn't out there.
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

So
that was pretty much the worst-pitched no-earned-runs inning I've ever seen.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

damn
They try to tell me that Portland can't have a team because the weather is too bad.  Its 75 fucking degrees and not a cloud in the sky.

Assholes.

Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

The weather is so awesome down here
right now.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vidro hit that line drive last inning
because Paul Byrd is everything that A's pitchers are not.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Box Score says
"Weather: 31 degrees, overcast."

Hah.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh.
Good news: HoRam hasn't allowed a flyball yet.
Bad news: 3 walks, 35 pitches thrown, 1 run allowed.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Beltre
might beat out Ramirez for "biggest suckfest" today.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

AGREE
Call the series.  Never play an opening week series in Cleveland again.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The longer the delay
the lower the chances that Ramirez comes back out to pitch the second.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

He'll be tied with Felix
For lowest ERA for a Mariners starter.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He gave up a run, no?
Felix has no runs tagged on him.

by manyoso on Apr 6, 2007 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't earned
Micheals, who scored, should have been out on Beltre's throwing error.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

ERA
= Earned Run Average.

Errors lead to unearned runs...

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Indians have only scored 1 so far?
All things considering, that's a success!
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

good....
lets delay the game now.  Play the rest another time.  We're only down one, if we can get someone besides HoRam to pitch the rest, we can still have a shot.
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

The game would be restarted
The continuation rule only applies to ties after 5 innings.

by PLU Tim on Apr 6, 2007 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats what I thought,
then someone in an above thread said something about a rule change?  Can we get clarification on the matter?
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tim's right
I think the rule change only involved postponement procedures for games past 5 innings where a visiting team took the lead from the home team and the inning wasn't able to be completed.

The rule mandating a game be replayed from scrtach before 5 innings still stands, I believe.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is nuts.
It's  75 degrees here on the coast and fucking snowing in Cleveland.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Can anybody do a screen grab
So I can see what it looks like. All the Cleveland webcams show nothing.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 2:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of screengrabs...
I had to do it:

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahahahahaha!
That's awesome Jeff.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

April baseball in Cleveland, folks
but Portland's too rainy, and we demand Seattle have a roof.

Nice call.

Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

250+ comments
For a game that barely made it to the second inning.

Nice work, folks.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank Jebus
Let's hope they call this stinker.

by BrianV on Apr 6, 2007 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Give HoRam a break just this once...
Have the guys tearing into HoRam ever tried pitching in the freezing cold/snow?  He should have got out of that inning scoreless if the D would have been better.  It's too early to judge how badly he sucks from this one freak game which simply should not have been started in the present conditions.  I doubt he will be able to feel his fingers properly which will impact his breaking ball, and cold weather = poor velocity on the fastball.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 6, 2007 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, you're totally right.
Pitching in this is incredibly difficult. I just really don't like Horacio Ramirez.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're process oriented here at LL
Merely getting out of innings unscathed isn't good enough if you do it in a Mecheian manner.

And we knew Ramirez sucked already, it's not like we needed to see him pitch.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay
Why didn't Paul Byrd have the same problems?

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW, it's also 70 in Seattle
Absolutely terrific.  Only one three game series to start the week, tho.  Yep.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Well
Normally we start the season with a few series at home and its terribly cold at night which leads to poor attendance for the first few weeks.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can anyone tell me...
Why we gave up Raffy and Doyle for HoRam and Vidro again?

Is it too early?  Can someone explain to me why we gave up Raffy for a guy who could easily be replaced with just about every arm in our farm system and be none the worse for it?

Any guesses?

Batista, HoRam and Weaver... this is going to be an awfully long season.

by manyoso on Apr 6, 2007 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Because Bavasi
hates us almost as much as he hates winning. Almost.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF?
WHY are they playing this game?
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

CALL THIS GOD DAMN GAME
HOLY SHIT I THINK EVERYONE WILL UNDERSTAND

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

How can you tell which one is the ball??
Everything is white!!!
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy Shit.
I didn't see the snow before.  Amazing that they even started the game.

by manyoso on Apr 6, 2007 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind.

You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger and you DON'T PLAY A BASEBALL GAME IN WHITEOUT CONDITIONS.  CALL THIS FUCKING GAME!!!!

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice!
A Jim Croce reference!
"Kittens give Morbo gas!"

by Thingray on Apr 6, 2007 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Felix were pitching, the outfielders could make
snowmen in the outfield, because they'd have nothing else to do.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Chuck Norris
can make snowmen from rain.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry...
this has crossed over into the absurd.  Its just comical.  ITS A FUCKING BLIZZARD OUT THERE.

Christ, Vidro's going to starve to death before they call this game.

Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

and Vidro crawls back into the cave...
for three more weeks of hibernation.
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Call it.
I just want to go to dinner and drink for a while.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

we're reaching 40mins on the delay FWIW
i don't know what that means re: Horacio

And, the managers went into the umpire's room for a meeting.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I bet it goes something like this
Hargrove:  CALL THE GAME.
Wedge:  CALL THE GAME.
Ump:  But-
Hargrove:  CALL THE GAME.
Wedge:  CALL THE GAME.
Ump:  We-
Hargrove:  CALL THE GAME.
Wedge:  CALL THE GAME.
Ump:  Bud-
Hargrove:  CALL THE GAME.
Wedge:  CALL THE GAME.
Ump:  The sch-
Hargrove:  CALL THE GAME.
Wedge:  CALL THE GAME.
Ump:  Okay-
Hargrove:  CALL THE GAME.
Wedge:  CALL THE GAME.
Ump:  Look-
Hargrove:  CALL THE GAME.
Wedge:  CALL THE GAME.
Hargrove:  OR I'LL STRAP STEAKS TO YOU AND THROW YOU IN JOSE VIDRO'S LOCKER.
Pause.
Ump:  Okay.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha
I am so glad I wasn't really conscious for this game or much of anything else today.
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Apr 6, 2007 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm glad I was at work
and thus suitably distracted so that it wasn't that huge a deal to me.

by Gomez on Apr 7, 2007 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, because baseball is a 60 minute game.
If your only planning on getting 5 innings in, DON'T PLAY THE GAME!
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

60 mins of clear weather?
It takes longer than 60 mins to play a game.

You don't want a five inning game on opening day.  Call the damn thing.

Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Yuni
Poor dude is just sitting there shivering. Bet he wish his plane had been delayed.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Sexson talking to Willie about bats.
Willie: I don't understand.
Sexson: See you hold it here, then you swing it like this...

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

And we're back on
Redicolous.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

hasselback hands off to Alexander....
THIS ISNT FUCKING BASEBALL WEATHER
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Sign in the stands:
"Our center fielder is hotter than yours."

Our DH is fatter than yours.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

ummm
how was that one a strike and not the previous 9 pitches there?

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Jesus Christ
I could swear that umpires don't notice how tall Sexson is.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

How much you wanna bet
that Beltre was told to throw the game

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

In this weather
He probably doesn't need to try too hard.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

God, our bats suck
And here we get to see HoRam get battered.

by manyoso on Apr 6, 2007 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

And Sexson
Resumes the inning with a K...

Cleveland can play defense in the snow.  Why can't we???

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Ramirez still pitching.
No good officially came of the delay.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Can you image the bullpen
Slaton:  Warm up.
Reliever:  How?!

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.
Ramirez has 22 balls.
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

22 Balls?
Wow, even I am impressed! That's a MAN.

by kva15 on Apr 6, 2007 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ramirez is missing
Ever target Joh puts up for him by about 6 inches up and away.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Okay, yeah.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that this game gets called later, so I can go out now without feeling guilty.

If it doesn't, go M's.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 6, 2007 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

If our hitters don't take some pitches
They're gonna get 5 innings in in no time.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

76 MPH
Come on HoRam!  You're throwing it too hard.  Take a little off and get your control back big guy!

by manyoso on Apr 6, 2007 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

thats it...
slow the game down, baby.  Get this thing cancelled
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh. Cleveland Announcers just mentioned Ho-Ram
How his movement to first could be considered "cheating."

Derek would be proud...

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Cleveland announcers
makes Ichiro's name sound like a Mexican snack food.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

shit
Vidro's gonna eat Ichiro?
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a 20-team league.
He was my 30th-round pick, I believe. Can't believe he lasted that long...
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow
The guy's not exactly worthless.  I actually picked him myself last year.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are we sure
Mike Reilly isn't in the umpiring crew somewhere???
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice
Our defense did something right!

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, they have a plan
Make an out, g-g-g-g-get back to dugout, where there's heating, as soon as possible.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fire hazard
And a tripping hazard.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, I know
Just trying to guess their likely excuse for not doing it.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Lopez's swing
looks like shit. Complete punch-and-judy

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Dunno
That flyout looked good off the bat.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good lord
Paul Byrd IS gonna throw a shortened perfecto.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Yuniesky Betancourt
Has no right to be as close to these plays as he has been.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuck Beltre
You're so good at 3rd. cmon.

by phil333 on Apr 6, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

and now an injury
CALL THE GAME!!!
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

This is what happens
When you insist on playing baseball in stupid conditions, idiots.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Eat that, Cleveland.
Probably a cramp.

CALL THIS FRICKING GAME!!!!

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

add insult to...

I hope Bug Selig is watching

by oneiric232 on Apr 6, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

ugh
if I didn't have work to do I would so not be watching this

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

My fantasy team thanks you umpires
Dicks.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not gonna blame the Mariners if they lose.
This is complete bullshit. This game should be in protest.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

You're sorta right
but the other team doesn't seem to have a problem getting hits and making plays.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're not having to deal
With grounders. M's are all hitting the ball in the air.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They've probably taken BP and practiced
in these cold conditions.  They have an edge.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly
The other team isn't playing like a bunch of pussies.  They are showing they have no heart.

by manyoso on Apr 6, 2007 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I didn't know
anyone could out-Meche Gil Meche, but we have a winner in Ramirez.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

So.
Who's the next pitcher?

Beltre's sucking defensively.  Yuni just got off the plane.

I vote Mateo time!

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

At this point
the Mariners should sue Beltre for malpractice and get some of his contract back.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow and Beltre slipped there.
If the Mariners won't play this game under protest, then I'm not watching it under protest.

Go to hell umpiring crew. You stupid fucks.

No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

These are the WORST
possible conditions for a groundballer to pitch in.

Seriously that "hit" was like the 6th out that HoRam has thrown this inning.  This should NOT be representitave of what he can do.

CALL THE GAME!

Go M's

by OBF on Apr 6, 2007 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

*sigh*
Nice groundball pitching, Ho.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey don't blame Beltre
Blame the F'ing Umps for letting this continue!
Go M's

by OBF on Apr 6, 2007 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

No shit.
Even if we win, this is still moronic.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

HoRam + Batista
Bavasi's 0 for 2

Can't wait for Weaver

Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuck this game
I could have gone out tonight but instead I stayed in to watch this shit.  Well fuck it,I've wasted enough time now - I'm going to bed.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 6, 2007 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

so...
if they indeed end up postponing this at some point, do we start over again or pick up where we left off?
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Games called before 5 innings get replayed
from scratch.

However, I'm not sure that's gonna happen.  If they've gotten this far....

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

prior to an official game (mid 5th)
game gets wiped off the books and they completely replay it.

after official, they just end it unless it's tied then they're resume the game from that point the next day

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will not judge Ho on this game
Miserable conditions that are affecting everything. He doesn't look great but I want to see him do a few more games.

If I see Morrow in this game I will find a naked picture of Rosie O'Donnell and send it to Hargrove. That should blind him for life.

Beer...giving my kidneys and liver a job since 1990.

by Ben in Va on Apr 6, 2007 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm glad this game is happening while I'm at work
I'd be pissed if I stayed home to watch this train wreck.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

3IP, 80 pitches
and by all fair scorekeeping, 0 ER

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

This is amusing
In a 'god hates us' sort of way.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Use Julio Mateo
burn him in this game, no need to save him.
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 3:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Ichiro needs to bunt at third
In fact, everyone not named Vidro needs to be forcing Marte to come in and slip.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh.
I'm sooo glad I benched Beltre before this game. We actually have Fielding % as a category in my crazy league.  
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Jesus
I'm reading the ball off the bat like Dave Niehaus does.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

that's the 3rd Ms hit
that would have been a HR under normal conditions

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, so I'm not going completely blind
That's a relief.

It's a little worrying to get all excited for a routine flyout.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

PAUL BYRD
PERFECT GAME
PERFECT GAME
PERFECT GAME
PERFECT GAME
PERFECT GAME
PERFECT GAME
PERFECT GAME
PERFECT GAME

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

BAAAAAAAAAAALK
IT'S A BAAAAAAAAAAAALK
BAAAAAAAATISTA... WITH THE BAAAAAAAAALK

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jinxed
The Indians' announcer just said he's got a perfect game so far...
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Four PERFECT innings for Paul Byrd!
Today is a cruel joke by God and MLB on Mariner fans.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

What....what?
Vidro flied out and the red dot is outside the field?

by ThundaPC on Apr 6, 2007 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

this is crazy...
being a ground ball pitcher sucks because its so damn hard to field right now.  Being a fly ball pitcher is great because its too damn cold for the ball to carry.  Any other time, that's a homer for Vidro.
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Vidro fly ball
...

Seriously, if this game was played in normal weather, there'd have been about 4 homers so far.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

this game is a fucking joke...
I know its not likely to happen, but could you imagine the M's being out of the playoffs by one game, AND THIS BEING THAT FUCKING GAME?
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Actually
Mateo would be a great choice right now. Flyballers have a huge advantage.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I SAID THAT
20 MINUTES AGO!!!!

Ho-Ram just had to get his 100 pitches in, I guess.  Figured it was going to be a short game anyway.

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
I just assumed you were joking and didn't think about it.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hafner K's?
What the green hells is going on today?

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Soooooo
I hear that Cha Seung Baek guy's a pretty good pitcher...

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Okay.
Entry #3 in the "Hargrove Decision Tracker"

I did hear that Mateo's 'warming' up, though, didn't I???

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

And, damn.
It's still quite buggy.  Ugh.
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heart of the order coming up
Not sure if it's beating, though.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Home runs hit today:
Ibanez. Lopez. Beltre. Vidro.

Just saying.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last inning...
I heard the Cleveland announcer mention that he thought Bavasi put together a really good team.

Quick, someone steal Antonetti away from them while their announcers aren't looking.

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I have the weirdest sense of deja va
Do we often have this much trouble in Cleveland?

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey now
Another red dot near the edge of the field.

by ThundaPC on Apr 6, 2007 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, he tried
Funk freezes in this weather.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

They want
Cleveland to play out their home opener.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously
Umpires always try their damndest to make the game happen.  It's common policy.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're trying to get 5 innings in
mainly because MLB hates the Mariners, and don't let anyone tell you different.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh.
Where's the human brain delay when ya need him?
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Okay
Seeing that the ball will not carry in this weather, the Mariners should have the sense to quit trying for the home run and to try and drive the gaps to get a rally going.

...

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

At which point do the M's batters finally realize
that they're probably not going to hit it out today and make adjustments... I'm not holding my breath

by ningwers on Apr 6, 2007 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

a walk!
Guillen my new favourite mariner

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

This game gets played in June
And the M's are up something like 10-0 and we're all amazed that Horacio Ramirez is throwing a shutout around all the walks.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Lets go Yuni
pretend the ball is Castro's face.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

We've nearly matched our
Walk total for the year in this inning.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

This is crazy
How is this game still going on!?!

by ningwers on Apr 6, 2007 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

So
I'm asking again. Are we sure we don't have Mike Reilly as the crew chief today???
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh my God
It is ridiculous out there

by anotherjeff on Apr 6, 2007 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess you can't really
judge anything on this crap.

This is embarrassing to watch.  HoRam sucks, Beltre's made 3 errors, but really...can't blame anyone for this.

by Garces on Apr 6, 2007 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Actually
Bavasi probably did something to cause this.

by Garces on Apr 6, 2007 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that the bases are loaded
The umps will likely call this game.

by JLC on Apr 6, 2007 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

damnit
fuck shit crap shit fuck

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Lopez
Take one for the team. You can get away with it because you can't distingush anything in this shit.

by JLC on Apr 6, 2007 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

This is absurd.
The umps have caused an injury with their idiocy already.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

And there he is.
The Human Brain Delay.

Come on you f'ing UMPS!!!!

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

CALL FOR THE BUNT, HARGROVE!
No one will see it coming! LITERALLY!

by JLC on Apr 6, 2007 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Good Job Hargrove
Good to see him doing his job.

by anotherjeff on Apr 6, 2007 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Might as well Mike
because as soon as Jose Lopez gets out, the umps are going to end the game, which is shit.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

one strike, bullshit
snow in the face is snow in the face, no matter what the situation is

by Nadingo on Apr 6, 2007 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

If they don't...
Delay or call the game the M's get screwed. It is that simple.

by anotherjeff on Apr 6, 2007 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Best Hargrove decision in a long time, actually
I actually just gained some respect for ol Dudley there.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark it Good
on the Hargrove Decision Sheet, even if it is a delayed good decision.

by tworsandtwols on Apr 6, 2007 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he waited too long
But with the bases loaded... even if they restart it, Jose would at least has a better shot in more visible conditions of at least getting a hit and giving the M's a fighting chance of maybe tying this sucker up.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that's
good reason to mark this, even if it's delayed, as a good decision.
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah
He should've done it earlier. Then it would have simply seemed sensible. Now it seems like a manager stunt.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Y'know
Say what you like about him, I'm sure Hargrove's a pretty good guy. He's not very bright, but I expect him to do what he thinks is the right thing.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hargrove
Way to refuse to leave the field, man.

by JLC on Apr 6, 2007 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

F the 4 runs.
This game should've been called several innings ago.

This is cheating at its finest.  

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

This is funny.
I just finished reading the chapter in DMZ's book about using delay tactics for extreme weather situations. Hilarious.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 6, 2007 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the umps called this game right now
it would be the greatest thing of all time

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

They won't
they're so close to getting it in.  They'll wait for the slightest bit of clearance, and then make Jose make his out to end it.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, like God Bless America
and other new, crap traditions... I guess the Mariners have to get screwed on the road in bad weather at least once a year.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

2007 is no different
bases loaded, 1 out and I had absolutely zero confidence in the Ms scoring runs.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

However
Normally it's not because baseball sized snowflakes are slapping them in the face.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 6, 2007 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

weather.com
says snow will continue all night. Not that that means anything to these umps.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Still.
Rick Reed is the new Mike Reilly.
Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 4:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Mike Reilly
I assume is the umpire from last year in New York?

by tworsandtwols on Apr 6, 2007 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

And to think I remember the name Ted Barrett
from one of his first games as an MLB umpire when the Mariners played in Boston and I felt we were getting jobbed.

At least that better be his name, because if it's not, I'm gonna look like an ass.

by tworsandtwols on Apr 6, 2007 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

nothing good has come of this game...
for Cleveland, their starting catcher has been injured.  For the M's, it in all likelihood goes as a loss in a fluke game where HoRam likely gives up no runs in normal weather conditions.
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

They never should have played.
They called the damn Minnesota-Chicago game hours before it was even supposed to start. This is just stupid.
Beer...giving my kidneys and liver a job since 1990.

by Ben in Va on Apr 6, 2007 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I can't wait for that
Angry Jeff rants are so cool.
Beer...giving my kidneys and liver a job since 1990.

by Ben in Va on Apr 6, 2007 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is great
He's out having dinner and drinks and has no idea what has happened.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured it out.
I hope the rant was angry enough.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 7, 2007 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was only a matter of time
what with ESPN doing a whole segment on it, which sadly gave the M's more airtime that they'd had all of last year combined.

by Gomez on Apr 7, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I realize that its only an out away...
but come on, its not to late to do the right thing.  It may be a bit of egg on face, but swallow pride and do the right thing.

That said, there's no way MLB does that.

Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 4:39 PM PDT reply actions  

You can't even see the field, the snow is so thick
I think they have to call it. It's gonna take them well over an hour just to clean up the field to make it safe to play and there is more lake effect snow on the way.
Beer...giving my kidneys and liver a job since 1990.

by Ben in Va on Apr 6, 2007 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Naw
He'll have a Fister No Hitter: taken out of the game early after allowing 0 hits.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I fthe game doesn't go "official
He will have Jack and Shit!

And Beltre will get those three errors back!

Go M's

by OBF on Apr 6, 2007 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can some one post a few
updated MLB.tv screen gabs, so us poor schlubs without MLB.tv can see how bad the conditions are right now?

Thanks

Go M's

by OBF on Apr 6, 2007 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm getting real tired of the Indians
announcers acting like getting Lopez out and making the game official is just a formality.  I could begin to understand the feeling if the Indians were up by 10 and noone was on base, but only up by 4 with the bases loaded?  There are definitely limits to the amount of homerism I can stand.

by ningwers on Apr 6, 2007 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I dunno, dude
We've been screaming for 4.2 innings to have this game cancelled.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

And because the umpires didn't comply
Cleveland's All-Star catcher got injured. This isn't about homerism. Cancelling this game is common sense.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah the Indians have been hurt more by
this than we have. They just lost a really good player.

I would be WAY more pissed about this if I were an Indians fan.

No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly
I have no problem rooting for things that are beneficial to your team, but when you disregard all common sense in doing so I get annoyed (i.e., acting like making the game official just for the sake of doing so should be the obvious goal of the umps)

by ningwers on Apr 6, 2007 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

But cancelling it...
juuuuusssttt after it goes offical doesn't make sense.

If Jose Lopez and Ichiro hit back to back bombs, and Beltre grounds out and THEN they call the game, and we win, it STILL doesn't make sense.

These are unplayable conditions, and have been since BEFORE the game started, neither team deserves to win on a day like today, and poor V_Mart certainly didn;t deserve to get injured

Go M's

by OBF on Apr 6, 2007 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think he's refering to the fact
that just as the Indians are 1 strike away from an official game, Jose Lopez is just one swing away from tying the game up.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

and nobody seems to be mentioning it
perhaps because they know, as we do, that there's no way Jose Lopez reaches base.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the thing here is
We're RIGHT. wink wink

by tworsandtwols on Apr 6, 2007 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lopez better swing...
because there's no way they're calling this a ball
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Unless Sizemore slips
While going for a Lopez fly ball, snapping his leg and Lopez gets an inside the park HR.

Imagine the outcry from these Homer announcers if that happened.

Beer...giving my kidneys and liver a job since 1990.

by Ben in Va on Apr 6, 2007 4:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Nearly
They're clearing the field with their leaf blowers again, but the snow's just picked up again...

It's touch-and-go.

P1 W0 L1 (.000)

by MarkE on Apr 6, 2007 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

cmon...
we need the ole inside the park grand slam
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Here comes the snow again.
I will laugh my ass off if they clean up the field only to have the snow cover it right back up.
Beer...giving my kidneys and liver a job since 1990.

by Ben in Va on Apr 6, 2007 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

What exactly must one do
to play under protest?

Does the manager have to announce it publicly before they go out?

Or is there a signal they give?

Maybe they play with their hat backwards?

Go M's

by OBF on Apr 6, 2007 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only remember one instance
a couple years back, I think it was Lou or Melvin got pissed during a game in Texas over some call and decided to play the remainder of the game under protest. It was announced over the loud speakers at the stadium so there's obviously some procedure to it.

The game was reviewed by MLB but not overturned.

by bluemax on Apr 6, 2007 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

See 4.19
Rule 4.19 here covers protests
P1 W0 L1 (.000)

by MarkE on Apr 6, 2007 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, crap
It's after 5 and I should probably get going.  By the time I get to Capitol Hill, I expect to hear that Jose Lopez made his out and this abortion was completed.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

According to the NWS radar
Another Squall is about to blow through.

Sucks to be the grounds crew

by anotherjeff on Apr 6, 2007 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

If I'm Grover, then I don't allow my players . . .
to take the field.

As soon as the inning ends, they're going to call it. This is total BS.

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 6, 2007 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

He would be totally justified
in claiming that he was worried about his players being injured, all he would have to do is point to V-Mart as evidence.
Go M's

by OBF on Apr 6, 2007 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

How stupid do you have to be
to not cancel this game? I think we're talking Johnny Drama level at this point.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the potential lost opening day revenue
is the most convincing argument I've heard as to why they won't cancel it.  It's BS if the umps are even considering it...

by ningwers on Apr 6, 2007 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

What money is being lost???
Most fans have left at this point anyways
Go M's

by OBF on Apr 6, 2007 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that might be the case
but I'm not sure if would offer refunds or simply say the old tickets are valid for the new game (or either one, I suppose).

by ningwers on Apr 6, 2007 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point
that would explain by they wouldn't initially cancel it, but now it's simply a case of wanting the win.

by ningwers on Apr 6, 2007 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

cmon...
its perfect.  You've sold lots of hot dogs, hot cocoa, and coffee and made tons of money.  NOw you can cancel the game, have another date, and do it all again :)
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're not cancelling . . .
because it's opening day. If this was Cleveland's second series at home, they would have cancelled this hours ago.

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 6, 2007 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

It IS stupid
I'm just writing on why this game wasn't cancelled hours ago. It's truly pathetic that they have allowed this "game" to "continue."

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 6, 2007 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aren't the new rules
That makeup games start in the same situation they ended?  Or am I crazy?

by Garces on Apr 6, 2007 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Only applies to ties
after five innings. An unofficial game is still unofficial.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's an
official game after 4 1/2 innings, which is why the Indians want to get one more out.

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 6, 2007 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Indians announcers . . .
are even hinting that his game is over after this half-inning.

Seriously, I'm at a loss of words . . .

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 6, 2007 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Snelling started today
cool.

And Byrnes is leading off for Oakland?

by bluemax on Apr 6, 2007 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder what the Indians would be rooting for
if Beltre hadn't made the errors and it was 0-0.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

If Lopez does the impossible
And hits a home run, watch all of us change our minds about calling the game

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

why?
that just ties the game and would just suspend the game instead of canceling it.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going off the assumption
That it would be canceled, not suspended. I stand corrected.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I won't
This is just dumb, and dangerous.

Up above I even said that if Lopez and Ichiro hit back to back jacks, I still would have wanted this game called earlier, like before the game.

Go M's

by OBF on Apr 6, 2007 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't care if he hits
a five run automatic win homer, continuing to play this game is the height of idiocy.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The score is irrelavent.
I don't want to see more players get injured.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

This game
is not worth winning for either club.

by Garces on Apr 6, 2007 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

And per Neihaus
They are gonna try in 15 minutes. If they can't do it,then its gonna be called, and be replayed in its entirety.

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

come on snow
one more prolonged burst of snow and the umps would pretty much have to cancel the game.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Left field is still covered in snow
They'd better work faster if they're going to do it

by ningwers on Apr 6, 2007 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Total Time of Delay:
2 hours and 36 minutes

That's longer than the time of actual play.

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 6, 2007 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Indian's announcer:
"You certainly wouldn't want anyone to get hurt out there"

You should have worried about that when the game started!

by ningwers on Apr 6, 2007 5:38 PM PDT reply actions  

squall
please
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

snow coming down harder
decision coming quickly says Indians announcers

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

YES!!!!!
Cancelled, bitches!
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

And the game has been called.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Finally called it!
Nice, we don't lose!

by anky on Apr 6, 2007 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll say it
God bless Mike Hargrove.

by Garces on Apr 6, 2007 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

so doubleheader tomorrow I guess
this fucks up the rotation since HoRam actually had to pitch

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

No it doesn't
because we had a day off yesterday, so everyone got an extra day of rest. Felix pitches the nightcap tomorrow on 4 days' rest.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 6, 2007 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dont want Felix
To be pitching in 20 degree weather during the snow

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

He owuld've pitched Sunday anyway.
Hot potato is an entirely different game when you're starving

by Mariner John on Apr 6, 2007 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep
DH tomorrow, 1 and 7pm Eastern time

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't call Ho-Ram's
performance "pitching," more like soft-toss.

by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Apr 6, 2007 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blessing in disguise?
However you feel about him, presumably one accepts that he's not one of the two best pitchers on the starting rotation. Thereby skipping over him for a game that counts means more games from the better guys.

In addition, if that second game gets played tomorrow, it'll be the Indians' #1 and #2 starters and the Mariners' #5 and #1 starters who should be somewhat more prepared having had longer rests.

P1 W0 L1 (.000)

by MarkE on Apr 6, 2007 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This assumes
there will even be a game tomorrow.  Isn't it supposed to get worse overnight and kinda stay that way through Saturday?

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

what the hell are we going to do tomorrow?
do we call up baek or woods?
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Baek pitched yesterday
so I guess Woods, not sure who is starting for Tacoma tonight.

by bluemax on Apr 6, 2007 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

dont need to call in anybody
off day yesterday so rotation is intact and the bullpen will have had 2 days off

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could make an argument for using Felix
given that it'll 5 days since his last start, but he may have planned his weekly routine around a start on Sunday

by ningwers on Apr 6, 2007 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK YEA!
They canceled it! Dudley did something right

by Robert on Apr 6, 2007 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Get in!
Psychologically, that must prop us up a little ahead of tomorrow's game(s) if it(they) happen.

So presumably Felix pitches tomorrow the second time around?

Awesome :o)

P1 W0 L1 (.000)

by MarkE on Apr 6, 2007 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Beltre
is the luckiest bastard of the game.

by anotherjeff on Apr 6, 2007 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I bet Victor Martinez wishes he could get a do
over on that injury.

Nice job umpires. Asshats.

No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

also off the books:
our 3 walks drawn so no worries about our team OBP going anywhere

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Kudos to Hargrove by the way
He just earned himself a few days of freebies from being a dumbass from me.
No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 6, 2007 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow.
Hargrove just jumped up about 3 notches up on my "hey, he's not bad" list.  

Still, they should've called the game several hours ago.  Sorry fantasy owners, too.  I hope that Victor is seriously hurt and misses a ton of games just so those lame Cleveland announcers recognize just that.  Being upset about losing the victory should really be tempered by the reality that losing Victor should upset them even moreso.

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't hope he's hurt..
because I hold no ill will toward him.  But those announcers are morons.
Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shoot. No. That didn't come out right.
I hope he's not hurt, definitely.  But I just want them to recognize WHY the game should not have been played in the first place.  

Those aren't baseball conditions.  Football, perhaps. Definitely NOT baseball.  

I'm thankful there weren't any more injuries.

Iceberg, right ahead!

by PositivePaul on Apr 6, 2007 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I realize that
and agree with your sentiment.  I also don't think that umpires should make decisions with the goal of getting 4 1/2 innings in.  They should be true to the game and look for nine.

That being said, if I'm an Indians fan right now, I'm pissed.

Dave

Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks Blog

by David Piper on Apr 6, 2007 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT'S A MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I TAKE BACK AT LEAST 23.6% OF ALL THE BAD THINGS I HAVE EVER SAID ABOUT MIKE HARGROVE but not all of them because that's be ridiculous and he's still Dudley Dumbass BUT STILL.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

God hatred edge: Mariners
The Indians at least have spent the last couple of years with a competitive ballclub and they have great hitters like Victor, Grady and Pronk.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It has to be said
and I know many will strongly disagree with this sentiment:

Mike Hargrove just took a big step towards saving his job today.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 7:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree that Hargrove did something
heroically good. However, I don't think there's any chance he keeps his job at the end of the year, regardless of the M's final record.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, he still has a lot of work to do
Remember, though, last year we were absolutely certain he was gone after the season....

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

completely different
not firing a guy when you'd still have to pay him no matter what is in another universe from giving him a new contract.

That's like arguing back in October that Gil Meche would be back in 2007 because we didn't cut him after his shitty 2005.

by Matthew on Apr 6, 2007 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember Tiananmen Square
when that one guy stood in front of the tanks?

Basically, the baseball equivalent of that.  With Jose Lopez up and completely unable to see the ball, down 1-2 in the count, Grover came out and pitched a fit, then refused to leave the field.  The umps finally took the hint as the snow started falling harder, and stopped play.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I picture some guy
with glasses running frantically into the dugout waving a stack of weather reports saying that more snow is coming.  Some sort of nerdy slow motion attempt to save the game.  Then a panting 1 second conversation saying that "The snow is coming, the snow is coming" after which Hargrove runs onto the field doing his best to stall.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 6, 2007 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently
Felix will pitch the nightcap, if it happens.

by Gomez on Apr 6, 2007 11:12 PM PDT reply actions  

this just became the single longest
open thread for a spring training game ever.

by Matthew on Apr 7, 2007 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I imagine
that the combination of a double header, more snow, Weaver and Felix!, the game thread(s) tomorrow is gonna push 2000.

by Robert on Apr 7, 2007 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

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