4/23: Open Game Thread

Is Cha Baek the Grinch to Felix's Santa Claus?

by Gomez on Apr 23, 2007 2:28 PM PDT 0 recs

Jeff...

Happy Felix Day.

Why do you hate America?

If you can fight, fight. If you can't fight, defend. If you can't defend, flee. If you can't flee, surrender. If you can't surrender, die. - Sima Yi

by TIF on Apr 23, 2007 2:30 PM PDT 0 recs

America is where Felix got hurt.

by Jeff on Apr 23, 2007 2:34 PM PDT up 0 recs

Are you declaring Jihad?

by Ben in Va on Apr 23, 2007 2:37 PM PDT up 0 recs

I call shennanigans!

"Liquor before beer, never fear. Beer before liquor, throw up quicker."

by Thingray on Apr 23, 2007 2:47 PM PDT up 0 recs

Heh

No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 23, 2007 4:37 PM PDT up 0 recs

Well, let's think about this.

Where has more harm been done to the Mariners - America, or the Middle East?

by Jeff on Apr 23, 2007 2:51 PM PDT up 0 recs

Not cool

:-(

by I'm NOT Corco on Apr 23, 2007 2:37 PM PDT 0 recs

I saw Harden went on the DL

Unfortunate that two of the best pitchers in the division are out.

by Ben in Va on Apr 23, 2007 3:05 PM PDT 0 recs

With Felix and Harden out

who's the best pitcher left in the division?

Cupcake?

by Llewdor on Apr 23, 2007 3:21 PM PDT up 0 recs

Probably...

Haren

Detect-O-Vision

Favor the Bold

by IcebreakerX on Apr 23, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up 0 recs

Or Lackey

by marc w on Apr 23, 2007 3:34 PM PDT up 0 recs

Uh... it'd have to be

Jabba the Hut (Colon), he is the only one to win a Cy Young award...

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Apr 23, 2007 3:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

Cy Young...

Is only an indicator of who one was, not who one is.

Detect-O-Vision

Favor the Bold

by IcebreakerX on Apr 23, 2007 4:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

yeah i know

sarcasm
but he would win a pie eating contest, or a pig look-a-like contest

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Apr 23, 2007 4:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

Hey now, let's underestimate Turbo

I bet he could give Colon a run for his money.

by ningwers on Apr 23, 2007 5:01 PM PDT up 0 recs

Lackey

by Graham on Apr 23, 2007 3:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

Lackey

by Jeff on Apr 23, 2007 4:28 PM PDT up 0 recs

3 votes for Lackey

only 2 for Cupcake.

And I would have picked Lackey if I'd thought of him.

by Llewdor on Apr 23, 2007 4:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

i vote

haren

PP

by armedpp on Apr 23, 2007 4:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

Who's the other one?

Hangin' With The Nuss

by Nuss on Apr 23, 2007 3:24 PM PDT up 0 recs

I say Haren

He of the 1.20 ERA. Harden will be back to make his start on Tuesday.

by kva15 on Apr 23, 2007 5:53 PM PDT up 0 recs

some might disagree

But I really wish we would of signed Millwood before the 06 season. He's probably overpaid, but not Zito or Meche overpaid. I think Felix - Millwood would be a pretty sick 1-2 punch.

Plus, wasn't the reason we didn't sign him was because the M's didn't want to do a 5-year deal?? The M's were looking more for a 3 or 4 year deal. What was the problem with going 5 years?? If your willing to give Jose Vidro 3 years, I don't see the what's so bad about giving Kevin Willwood 5 years.

by MFAN on Apr 23, 2007 3:43 PM PDT 0 recs

Second

Millwood would have been great in Safeco. Bavasi must die.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 23, 2007 3:46 PM PDT up 0 recs

Let's put it this way.

Washburn: 4 @ 38
Batista 3 @ 24

Vs:

Millwood: 5 @ 60

Millwood will a good shot to be a big giant pile of suck by year 5 of his deal, but Millwood+Baek or Generic Replacement 5th Guy > Washburn+Batista, and the Mariners will be spending almost 20 million a year through 2009 on two guys you'd expect to have a 4.50-5.00 ERA in a neutral park/neutral defense scenario.

by eponymous coward on Apr 23, 2007 3:59 PM PDT up 0 recs

Washburn

is one log of shit away from a pile of suck when we signed him.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 23, 2007 4:02 PM PDT up 0 recs

Millwood or Washburn...that's a toughy.

-2006 stats-

Jarrod Washburn
IP 187
RA 4.96
ERA+ 93
FIP 4.83
xFIP 5.35
K/9 4.96
BB/9 2.65
K/BB 1.87
HR/9 1.20
2007 Salary $9,850,000

Kevin Millwood
IP 215
RA 4.77
ERA+ 104
FIP 3.93
xFIP 4.23
K/9 6.57
BB/9 2.22
K/BB 2.96
HR/9 0.96
2007 Salary $11,250,000

I think we'd all spend the extra change to get the better pitcher.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 23, 2007 4:01 PM PDT up 0 recs

FIP and xFIP

Are substantially overrating Millwood according to play-by-play data. In my book he's a better pitcher than Washburn, but by so much you want to pay out of your nose to get him.

League average is 5.00, these are 2006 stats...

Millwood pRA: 4.61
Wasbburn pRA: 4.99

Only after shifting the numbers around to account for luck does any real difference appear, and I'm not really comfortable in dismissing a bunch of data by throwing it back towards league average.

Millwood pRA*: 4.49
Washburn pRA*: 5.27

by Graham on Apr 23, 2007 4:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

If you want to sign a pitcher

who is better than average you should expect to pay a tad more. Its kind like paying 20k for an Accord or 17k for a Taurus. Sure the Taurus isn't that bad of a car but for just a little more you could buy a much better car.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 23, 2007 4:11 PM PDT up 0 recs

Alls I know

is that if you spend $8.5 million on Jeff Weaver, and after 2 weeks are one bad start are about to DFA him, I think 8 million over two years isn't that bad.
But seriously, for the price of Weaver, Guillen, and Vidro, we could have Millwood and Snelling and Broussard.

http://seattlesportsmaniac.blogspot.com

by LantermanC on Apr 23, 2007 4:20 PM PDT up 0 recs

Fixed it.

Happy Cha Day.

Wait, who am I kidding? :(

by eponymous coward on Apr 23, 2007 3:43 PM PDT 0 recs

Watch out conspiricy theory

Ok this starts out simple.

Felix pitches...
Felix dominates...
Felix watches 4 other pitchers...
Felix sad. Felix sees Weaver sucks most. Felix hates losing.
Felix ponders...

Many moons pass, then there is a mysterious forearm injury. Baek comes up and pitches mediocre but all it takes to replace Weaver a batting practice pitcher who doesn't throw tennis balls.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 23, 2007 3:52 PM PDT 0 recs

it's official

Felix on the DL (not eligible to return until May 4th) Baek called up.

We all knew this was happening just wanted to mention that its official now.

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 23, 2007 4:15 PM PDT 0 recs

Happy Felix to the DL Day

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/312764_mbok24.html

by eponymous coward on Apr 23, 2007 4:16 PM PDT 0 recs

A-rod homers

but just a solo shot, so it wasn't clutch.

by MFAN on Apr 23, 2007 4:28 PM PDT 0 recs

Arod's OK at baseball

by DCMariner on Apr 23, 2007 4:29 PM PDT 0 recs

I hope he wins the hearts of every New Yorker

and then opts out of his contract as a big "fuck you" for doubting him in the first place. He's gonna hit 50HRs if he stays healthy-- He'd look pretty good in the middle of our order.

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

by JI on Apr 23, 2007 4:38 PM PDT up 0 recs

He's on pace for something like 98

It can't last. At some point he'll lose half of his value and only hit like peak Manny Ramirez.

by Llewdor on Apr 23, 2007 4:42 PM PDT up 0 recs

If he hit his "awful"

.290/.390/.523 from last year the rest of the way he'd probably get there, and if he hit his career line the rest of the way he'd probably have the best season of any 3B ever. I wonder if he can still handle SS?

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

by JI on Apr 23, 2007 4:45 PM PDT up 0 recs

Weaver sucks most?

Is that even possible?

Once you suck, you suck. You cant oversuck.

by Slica on Apr 23, 2007 4:38 PM PDT 0 recs

Phillip Hughes to start on Thursday

The poster formerly known as KnightofKingK

by Robert on Apr 23, 2007 4:40 PM PDT 0 recs

GO MARINERS!

BEAK IS GREAT!

Serenity Now!

by Coach Owens on Apr 23, 2007 4:42 PM PDT 0 recs

PAC-MAN IS BACK!!!

Woot!!!

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

by JI on Apr 23, 2007 4:53 PM PDT 0 recs

Krueger:

"Baek is like Dice-K!"

......in that they're both asian?

No sir, I don't like it. ~Mr.Horse

by Goose on Apr 23, 2007 4:57 PM PDT 0 recs

Bill Krueger always struck me as a little racist.

...

by Jeff on Apr 23, 2007 5:00 PM PDT up 0 recs

Korea ,Japan

whatever, they're all brown

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

by JI on Apr 23, 2007 5:02 PM PDT up 0 recs

7.94 ERA for the remainder of the staff

This is the best gosh-darned team $110m can buy.

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

by JI on Apr 23, 2007 5:01 PM PDT 0 recs

Burke still in

Wasn't Kenji supposed to be back today?

by appleshampoo on Apr 23, 2007 5:02 PM PDT 0 recs

Gah....

I can't believe they put up that graphic.

Graphic summary - Who would you Rather have facing Texas, Felix whith his 4.something career ERA and losing record or Baek and his winning record and sparkling ERA (against Texas).

Dumbasses. I just can't find the words.

by Ben in Va on Apr 23, 2007 5:04 PM PDT 0 recs