It's Officially Official
Rafael Soriano never had a physical, but John Schuerholz is probably so ecstatic that he doesn't even care. If I had to guess, I'd say that the Braves just went over all of Soriano's information generated by his stay in the hospital a couple months ago, since he would've had a pretty exhaustive examination at the time and nothing would've changed between then and now. So whatever.
I am sad.
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Not one mention of other players involved...
by manyoso on Dec 7, 2006 9:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
So....
by Dollar97 on Dec 7, 2006 9:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
From the trade phone call:
Schuerholz: Bill...uh, this is John Schuerholz. I think you meant to call the Red Sox.
Bavasi: You didn't answer my question, Theo. How 'bout a Soriano-Ramirez trade?
Schuerholz: Bill...ummm...[idea dawns] Yeah, Bill, I think a Soriano-Ramirez trade would work really well. You know, we've been looking at unloading Horacio...uhh...I mean Ramirez for a while now. Can I fax you the paperwork?
Bavasi: Sure thing, Theo. Lemme consult with Mike here for a second. [inaudible mumbling] Okay, I think we have a done deal. Mike said he'd play Ramirez as much as he could, even if that means turning him into a DH.
Schuerholz: [snickers]Hey, Bill, looks like we got ourselves a deal. [cackles madly]
Bavasi: Great! I've always loved doing business with the Boston Red Sox. Take down those Yankees, will ya?
Schuerholz: [barely containing his glee]Yeah, um, I'm make sure and do that! Pleasure doing business with you! [hangs up phone] Stupid git.
by Phildopip on Dec 7, 2006 9:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
This sucks
So instead you go out and sign #5 starter instead of a #1 or 2? GREAT IDEA
by tkballer22 on Dec 7, 2006 9:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like somebody lost the magic 8 ball
by Dollar97 on Dec 7, 2006 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Bill . . .
by JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo on Dec 7, 2006 9:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you suppose
by Phildopip on Dec 7, 2006 9:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Do you think...

by PositivePaul on Dec 7, 2006 9:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the next feed
by Gomez on Dec 7, 2006 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, USSM feed ---> USSM hunger strike
by Alex B on Dec 7, 2006 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It'll save DMZ the trouble
by Gomez on Dec 7, 2006 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On the Bright Side
JULIO MATEO!
by MfaninAlaska on Dec 7, 2006 9:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
ROFL....
by PLU Tim on Dec 7, 2006 9:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
So....
This was a total panic move. Even those of us who have given Bavasi the BoD for a long time can't take it anymore.
by PLU Tim on Dec 7, 2006 10:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What a shitastic offseason this has been
"You gonna start hitting on Gomez at the next LL night?"
by Christian on Dec 7, 2006 10:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
So
by InSpokane on Dec 7, 2006 10:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Good News
by Geeves72 on Dec 7, 2006 11:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
come on, at least 1-10
by basebliman on Dec 7, 2006 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it too early to fire up the
"You gonna start hitting on Gomez at the next LL night?"
by Christian on Dec 7, 2006 11:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Come February
So, yeah.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 7, 2006 11:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
M's official winter meetings roundup:....
"Winter Meetings Mission Accomplished"
Can you believe that bullshit?
That is insulting.
Fuck this team.
by Jerry on Dec 7, 2006 11:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That's assuming
by Gomez on Dec 7, 2006 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
No, I don't think that's what it was, Bill.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 7, 2006 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Suprisingly....
That is amazing.
This is a new low for me. I woke up pissed off this morning, and I am more surly now.
by Jerry on Dec 7, 2006 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're not kidding
by Graham on Dec 7, 2006 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually find this . . .
by DCMariner on Dec 7, 2006 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, that's just asking for this:
by Goose on Dec 7, 2006 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Winner!!!!
by PositivePaul on Dec 7, 2006 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot something
by Goose on Dec 7, 2006 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, Jeff...
by PositivePaul on Dec 7, 2006 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Close enough.
All the more fitting...
by PositivePaul on Dec 7, 2006 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Put an angle's pin on his collar
by Peen on Dec 7, 2006 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
by PositivePaul on Dec 7, 2006 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see
by InSpokane on Dec 7, 2006 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And replaced it with the much better:
by Trent on Dec 7, 2006 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Starting duo?
by Graham on Dec 7, 2006 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's made the whole
by InSpokane on Dec 7, 2006 12:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Where's the Bavasi Magic Card?
by Jed C on Dec 7, 2006 12:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Overheard conversation last night
BB: Well John, I've been told I'll be canned if I don't turn around this team, and on top of that everything I'm touching right now goes to shit.
JS: Did you think about what I told you the other day?
BB: Nah, I can't do that.
JS: Look, there is nothing left, you want Matsuzaka you get told now by your owner. You want Manny, the Red Sox ask for the moon. You want Schmidt or Zito, but won't spend the bucks on Zito and while you were dicking around with the Red Sox on Manny Schmidt signed with the Dodgers. Its pretty obvious you won't have a job next year.
BB: Yeah, its looking that way. Kicks the dirt dejectedly
JS: So I tell you what, you give me Soriano, and I'll give you a job next year.
BB: You know that's not such a bad idea. We need to make it believable, the M's need Starting Pitching, got anyone in AAA?
JS: We'll make it a little more believable I'll give you my scrub number 5 pitcher.
BB: All right!
by Replacement Level Poster on Dec 7, 2006 12:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
One more thing...
by PositivePaul on Dec 7, 2006 12:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Evidently
by MfaninAlaska on Dec 7, 2006 12:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Won't happen
by Gomez on Dec 7, 2006 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
you should of added "I think you mean Thompson:
by MFAN on Dec 7, 2006 1:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
2 more things
and second, now I have to change my sig...this sucks.
by MFAN on Dec 7, 2006 1:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one
by Mariner John on Dec 7, 2006 3:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure the Royals and the Pirates
Regardless of how much this sucks, we still aren't even on their level of suck.
And really. I still don't see any reason why the 2007 ballclub won't be a .500 team. It's just not going to compete for anything. It's not like we're gonna go back to losing close to 100 games again just because of this trade.
by Goose on Dec 7, 2006 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
by Mariner John on Dec 7, 2006 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not going to destroy the franchise
Attendance will be way down.
Ichiro will leave.
No one else will want to come here.
Bavasi and Hargrove will be gone, and the idiots who hired them will still be around to hire another pair of inept yes-men.
by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 7, 2006 6:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"No one else will want to come here."
by Mariner John on Dec 7, 2006 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to say for sure
by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 7, 2006 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the individual trade that's the problem
So no, this one trade doesn't effect 2007's expected w-L record, BUT, by preventing the Ms from actually pulling off a trade that helps the team, it DOES negatively effect the good case W-L record.
by Matthew on Dec 7, 2006 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 7, 2006 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I'm fairly well convinced now
by Matthew on Dec 7, 2006 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
60% of the time it works every time
by Mariner John on Dec 7, 2006 6:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More of a bad omen
The thing that scares the shit out of me is that it pretty clearly demonstrates that Bavasi is a moron. He is not a good GM. This was a horrible trade.
Before, my impression of Bavasi was that he was a mediocre GM. I didn't worry too much about him making a huge mega-error.
Now, my impression of him went way down. He is a geniunely bad GM. He is the type of GM who might, perhaps, sign Barry Zito for 7 years, 125 million or something. Maybe he would even backload it, just to screw his successor.
If he is stupid enough to do that, what's next?
by Jerry on Dec 7, 2006 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Analogy
by Jerry on Dec 7, 2006 7:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And when you reach over to try and take the wheel
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 7, 2006 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and then.....
And, the next morning, they post big, celebratory announcements on their official website about how the whole thing went exactly as they planned.
by Jerry on Dec 7, 2006 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So GMs are judged by their worst move?
by Mariner John on Dec 7, 2006 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much, yeah...
If a GM has several excellent trades and one bad one, that is much different.
But Bavasi has a tendency to make bad moves pretty regularly: Spiezio, Aurillia, the Guillen trade, Everett, Washburn, the Soriano trade....
That is a bad track record. I would add Sexson's contract to that list.
You could also add Beltre, although I loved that deal at the time.
The man is not good at his job.
I really hope that he isn't with the club next offseason. A mid-season firing would be even better. Get someone else in here before the trade deadline. The sooner the better.
by Jerry on Dec 7, 2006 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not like he had that much to work with though
by Mariner John on Dec 7, 2006 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Mariner John on Dec 7, 2006 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If that's the case
by ningwers on Dec 8, 2006 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2006 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are only as strong
by Gomez on Dec 8, 2006 7:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's an interesting question.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2006 7:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd go even further
by Deanna on Dec 8, 2006 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point, Matthew
by ningwers on Dec 8, 2006 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Its funny
The angry people are trying to talk the people in denial into recognizing the fact that this really happened.
And the depressed people trying desperately to rationalize something that makes zero sense.
I think we all have post traumatic stress syndrome.
by Jerry on Dec 7, 2006 8:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Misery loves company
Lookout Landing-It's cheaper than a shrink!
by Goose on Dec 7, 2006 9:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my mother's calling
by Matthew on Dec 7, 2006 9:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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