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Quick Late Monday Wrap-Up

A few bullet points while I have a minute:

  • Every year come November we talk about the Mariners bringing in some bonafide superstar, and every year come April they get set to begin the season with no such acquisition. "A pipe dream," we say. "They'd never even give (name of totally awesome player) a look."

    This time, though, this time things are different. We've known all along that Bill Bavasi is an aggressive guy who, if he fails, fails big, and on the heels of another last-place finish he's setting his sights on one of the greatest hitters in the history of baseball. All this Manny Ramirez stuff isn't just author speculation; there's substance there, and the two front offices have been talking. Not too long ago I didn't envision Seattle getting involved in the sweepstakes, nor did I see a real good match between their roster and Boston's, but I've been wrong a million times before and I'd love it if I were wrong again. Manny's one of those players worth overpaying for, and he would instantly turn this into a very, very good offense. I wholeheartedly endorse this pursuit.

  • Of course, still in need of another starting pitcher, there's no way the Mariners can land Manny and an arm without getting rid of Richie Sexson (or, far less likely, Adrian Beltre). The good news? According to John Hickey, the front office is willing to do exactly that provided the return is good enough. (The article also says stuff about Luis Gonzalez but I'd avoid reading that if I were you.) If nothing else, we can rest assured that, if Bavasi falls short of an adventurous and profitable offseason, it won't be from lack of trying. Not everyone's as ballsy when it comes to dealing with big contracts, and while that can occasionally do a lot of damage, in this particular case I don't see much downside.
  • Erase Chris Carpenter from next year's free agent pool. St. Louis extended his contract through 2011.
  • Maybe it's me, but Mike Piazza doesn't seem nearly as intimidating as Frank Thomas as Oakland's everyday DH. He'll be productive, and staying off the field might keep him more fresh into the later months, but at the same time guys like Raul Ibanez and Jason Giambi (among others) have said they hit better when they play defense, presumably because it keeps them more constantly alert and into the game. If this alleged phenomenon hasn't already been studied by someone, it should be.
  • The Giants, eager to re-build a roster that had been among the league's oldest for the past several seasons, have so far added Bengie Molina (32), Rich Aurilia (35), and Dave Roberts (34), while re-signing Ray Durham (35) and Pedro Feliz (31). Wednesday they plan to meet with Barry Bonds (42) as it appears that their talks with Boston (376) about Manny Ramirez (34) are going nowhere. Brian Sabean is a problem.
  • $34m/3yr for Vicente Padilla to stay in Texas. This puts the current Ranger rotation at Millwood/Padilla/uh, so they're expected to keep throwing piles of money at Barry Zito's back while he frantically tries to run away. As the number of middle-tier free agent pitchers on the market gets reduced (Eaton's gone, and Maddux is apparently on the verge of signing with San Diego), the price of Lilly, Meche, and Suppan goes up (although the years may not). We've only heard the Mariners in connection with one of them, thank God, and there's a 99% chance that Lilly signs somewhere else, so fortunately we should be able to avoid that sack hop for retards.

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Not sure if Molina has enough experience
This is a risky move for the Giants, Molina may feel uncomfortable being so much younger than most of his teammates.  They would have been better off letting him get a little more seasoning somewhere else and possibly signing him in 5-6 years.

by Grant H on Dec 4, 2006 6:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jeff.....
I thought you hated the Manny idea last year. Maybe that was someone else...

Go git 'em Bill.

Mariner Magic http://www.marinermagic.blogspot.com/

by BaltimoreMarinersFan on Dec 4, 2006 6:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Manny....
So what would the Red Sox expect from the M's? Soriano, Jones, Reed, Sexson, etc?
Mariner Magic http://www.marinermagic.blogspot.com/

by BaltimoreMarinersFan on Dec 4, 2006 6:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The popular names
are Soriano, Putz, Jones, and Clement.

With Papelbon starting they need a closer, which either Soriano or Putz could do without batting an eyelash. A prospect would be in there to sweeten the pot, and while Clement fits more of an organizational need than Jones (who'd be in competition with Jacoby Ellsbury), Jones is the better prospect, so they might prefer the latter instead.

So we're basically looking at Soriano/Jones being the bulk of the package.

by Jeff on Dec 4, 2006 7:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The DH theory and not being on the field
For the reason you mention (and given players like our own Raul Ibanez have mentioned how playing the field helps him focus on his hitting better) I always thought it'd be a good idea for a team to rotate the DH role, assuming you had some decent versatile bench players who could slide into a given position when that position's incumbent was DHing.

A good approach would be what the Mariners ought to do: rotate their overload of LF/RF/1B/DH type guys, with a different one DHing everyday and then others filling in the field accordingly.  Rotating Ibanez/Snelling/Guillen and, assuming they don't trade him, Broussard, would keep them all in the mix, keep them on their toes, keep them FOCUSED, plus assure you at least one good bench bat if needed.

by Gomez on Dec 4, 2006 7:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wait, is Boston really 376 years old?
I'm pretty sure they must be way past their prime as a city, then -- I mean, they're easily one of the oldest in this league.  Though I hear they still have several decades left on their contract and an extension into the next century...
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Dec 4, 2006 7:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Personally
I'd sell high and trade Boston to the UK for Manchester, maybe throw in a couple of towns to sweeten the deal.

by Gomez on Dec 4, 2006 7:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Boston = declining.
Make way for Hartford (371), New England's Rising Star!

by Jeff on Dec 4, 2006 7:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hartford?
Another overhyped AAAA city.  Remember TINSTAAPP (There Is No Such Thing As A metroPolis Prospect).

Besides, Hartford still has recovered from the loss of the Whalers.

by abelard on Dec 4, 2006 7:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're telling me.
Somehow the Wolfpack just aren't the same.

by Jeff on Dec 4, 2006 7:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, though
I miss the Nordiques more.  It would've been something if Patrick Roy had won another Stanley Cup with Quebec instead of Colorado.

by abelard on Dec 4, 2006 7:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Need foreign talent IMO
Boston's VORC has been declining since their late 1700s peak.  I'd settle for an Antwerp and maybe throw in Luxembourg.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Dec 4, 2006 10:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa whoa whoa.
Those cities would have to be posted.

by Jeff on Dec 4, 2006 10:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well that depends...
There's rampant speculation that Canada will make an extravagant bid then decline to offer an acceptable contract.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Dec 4, 2006 11:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for ruining my day, Rotoworld
True or not, I didn't ever want to see or hear it, even in a joking sense:

Yahoo! Sports' Tim Brown reports that the Blue Jays, Cubs, Orioles, Mariners and Giants all appear to be willing to go to four years for Gil Meche.
We're more than a little skeptical about this, as there's been no indication that the Mariners have stepped up with that kind of offer to keep him. The Blue Jays appear to be the favorites to sign Meche, especially if the Cubs grab Ted Lilly.

by I'm NOT Corco on Dec 4, 2006 7:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Tim Brown is a baseball correspondent?
Weird.
Also, I hope he goes to an AL team.
Willie Bloomquist and Mike Hargrove suck

by Mariner John on Dec 4, 2006 8:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of under the impression
That Jon Daniels was supposed to be some sort of genius stat-guru. And now he's paying Padilla 11 million over 3 years and reportedly after Zito?

Uhhhh....kay. Maybe he's just sick or something.

by JLC on Dec 4, 2006 10:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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