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10/19: Open NLCS Thread

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First Pitch: 5:19pm PDT

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Sometimes this stuff just writes itself.

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Player A, Ignitor, value that transcends numbers..
Are you sure that this wasn't written about the Mariners?  Because you could easily replace Eckstein with "Bloomquist", Reyes with "Bloomquist", "Leadoff homer" with "Gritty groundout in which some replays showed he was safe" and "3-4" with "0-4"....

I think you made that up and messed with us.  Yep.  You hacked Yahoo, and changed an article about the Mariners.  I'm not sure it's possible to convince me otherwise.

We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Oct 19, 2006 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Spiezio
Not in the starting lineup.  

There's only two explanations for this:

A) His gritty leadership from the bench is wasted if he's out in left field all game.

B) Top of the 9th.  Bases loaded, 2 out, tie game, Heilman pitching.  Pujols is due up, but La Russa has prepared for this very moment.

TLR: "Pujols, grab some pine!"
Pujols:  "You're pinch-hitting for me?"
TLR: "Yes. You see, you're a right-hander and so is the pitcher. If I send up Spiezio, a switch-hitter, it's called playing the percentages. It's what smart managers do to win ballgames."
Pujols:  "But I hit nine home runs off Oliver Perez today!"
TLR: "You should be very proud of yourself.  Spiezio, you're up!"

[Spiezio proceeds to get hit on the chin with a pitch, knocking him unconscious and giving the Cards the win.  TLR is hailed as the greatest genius in baseball history]

by abelard on Oct 19, 2006 5:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I remember that and I haven't watched the show in
forever.

Lisa:  GO HOME, DARYL.  WE WANT HOME RUN HOMER!
Bart:  DARRRRRRRRRRYL DARRRRRRRRRRYL
both:  DARRRRRRRRRRYL DARRRRRRRRRRYL

by Gomez on Oct 20, 2006 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was good,
but the best moment was when Mr. Burns unveils his all-star team of ringers:

"Honus Wagner!  Cap Anson!  Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown!"

"Uh sir, I'm afraid all those players have retired and, uh, passed on.  In fact your right fielder has been dead for a hundred and thiry years."

"Damnation! All right, find me some good players. Living players!  I want you to scout the American League, the National League, the Negro League!"

by abelard on Oct 20, 2006 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, my favorite part is when
Mike Scoscia's working in the nuclear plant and he's like "this power plant stuff is such a relief from the pressures of playing major league baseball!  If I screw up there, boom, the press is all over me!  Here, it's no big deal!  [dumps can of radioactive waste by accident]"
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Oct 20, 2006 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tony LaRussa's questionable decisions...
Duncan, he who may win Rookie of the Year, a power hitter with patience is still left to ride the bench in favor of Preston "Just got K'd by Oliver Perez" Wilson and Yadier Molina bats higher in the order than Ronnie Belliard.

How has this guy won anything?

We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Oct 19, 2006 5:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's go Mets!
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 5:24 PM PDT reply actions  

So...how is it that Michael Tucker is on the Mets
Postseason roster, and Lastings Milledge isn't?  I know Tucker's OBP was higher...but any idiot should be able to tell Milledge is better...
We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Oct 19, 2006 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Do I really need to answer that?
...(a Google image search isn't revealing anything particularly good for "veteran experience." I tried.)

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

HUSTLE AND GRIT SUPREME
Someone needs to make a Hustle and Grit family tree, because I just KNOW that Eckstein and Kennedy and Jeter and Little Garciaparra and and WFB and Bo Hart's Chestnut Brown Hair are magically interconnected.

by Gomez on Oct 19, 2006 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

They should be put in a cage and fight to the
death.

There can be only one....

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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

We've discussed this
That cage would explode and leave a crater in the ground the size of Tacoma.

by Gomez on Oct 20, 2006 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woot Wright!
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 5:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Way to go, Wright.
Those kinds of hits satisfy nobody.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

LaRussa does it more than anybody it seems.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh.
A handful of Yankees fans I know are treating Matsuzaka like he's a guarantee to land in New York.

I've got some news for you guys...

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

The question is
Will everyone stop drooling over him if he DOES land in New York?
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which seems pretty unlikely...
Considering he handles a higher workload than he'll ever get here quite fine in Japan.
We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Oct 19, 2006 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's hoping!
I don't care if that's spiteful.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, if we land him, we likely won't shut up
about him from Thanksgiving till Spring Training.

So by Christmas, Deanna is likely to go postal on us all.

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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

It'll be fun.
If Jeff and the Anaheim Angels couldn't break my spirit, nothing will!

I guess one good thing about this exodus is that I suddenly seem to have opportunities to get boatloads of my old Japanese baseball cards signed...

Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make that
Preston "Just got K'ed by Oliver Perez TWICE" Wilson, thanks.
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by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, in their defense
They COULD be using Chris Duncan.  It's a terrible lineup, but there's a legit option or two to protect him...LaRussa just isn't that good of a manager.
We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Oct 19, 2006 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know
Maybe they managed to sift Darren Oliver and Oliver Perez together and only get the good halves of both.
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll enjoy this while it lasts
It's the last competitive MLB game of the season.

by ThundaPC on Oct 19, 2006 6:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Well if the Mets win tbis
We might see one or two competetive games in the WS. Hell, the Mets might even push the series as far as 6 games before they are finished off by the Tigers.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did I just see a run expectancy matrix?
Tell me I didn't just see a run expectancy matrix.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 6:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Well
I think I did see GB%, LOB%, and BB% listed for a Mariner starting pitcher last season.

by JLC on Oct 19, 2006 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, really!?
You mean to tell me Tim, that if there are two outs, the runner is less likely to score than if there are no outs?!

WOW!

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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 6:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Tim McCarver
You gotta love how Family Guy realizes how much Tim McCarver sucks:

by Colby In Boston on Oct 19, 2006 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't care how bad...
...the new M's manager is in 2008, but if he refuses to do in-game manager interviews, he's good in my book.

by Trev on Oct 19, 2006 6:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Why does Valentin get first base?
How is it a hit batsman if the ball touches the ground first?

by John Spartan @ Lookout Landing on Oct 19, 2006 6:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Albert Pujols
Not worth a damn in the NLCS except for that solo bomb.

CHOKER!

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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

And Eckstein has a double
despite all the aches and pains.

I think we both know where I'm going with this...

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

ENDY CHAVEZ!
YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 7:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Dear god
Perez you are one lucky bastard...so is Willie Randolph.

by Trev on Oct 19, 2006 7:05 PM PDT reply actions  

My thought process during that play
"So McCarver, it's LoDuca's fault that Perez is still out there huh? Whatever, it's still stupid."

:Ball is hit:

"LoDuca, you stupid son of HOLY SHIT ENDY CHAVEZ!"

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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

WPA for the Endy
Cardinal WinExp before Rolen HR:  50.4%
Cardinal WinExp after Rolen "HR":  76.8%
Cardinal WinExp after Chavez Catch:  42.5%

by Trev on Oct 19, 2006 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

And just like Albert Pujols broke Brad Lidge
Endy Chavez has broken Scott Rolen.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 7:16 PM PDT reply actions  

If Endy Chavez gets a hit here
New York may proclaim him Mayor.
Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death. Hello to eternity and live for every breath. Your Time will Come.

by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Could the FOX
Camera's zoom in a little closer on Suppan's face?  I haven't gotten a good shot of the food crumbs left in his moustache.

by anky on Oct 19, 2006 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Reason #304,342,234 why Fox sucks
100x Face zoom in + Playoff beards = Let's not go there.

by Trev on Oct 19, 2006 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Player A goes deep here
Then we will know the baseball gods truly do hate us.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 7:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I dont think there's any other option.
I've had it with mother fucking Hargrove on this mother fucking team!

by Robert on Oct 19, 2006 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

A nice little surprise
Go choke on a razor Scott.
I've had it with mother fucking Hargrove on this mother fucking team!

by Robert on Oct 19, 2006 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take that you bastard!
No one messes with the Mariners and gets away with it!
We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Oct 19, 2006 7:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh, same as when I left work
This game is still retarded.

I guess Inning-Endy Chavez works in both senses.

Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 7:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Encarnacion
wears the golden sombrero.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 7:53 PM PDT reply actions  

SO TAGUCHI!!!!!
Woo, the Cards have this game locked up now.
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 7:55 PM PDT reply actions  

So Taguchi in
The Mets are screwed if they use Wagner.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 7:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Soo...did Chris Duncan contract instant death?
I don't know why LaRussa won't play him.  If you can't tell, he's one of my favorite Cardinals...
We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Oct 19, 2006 7:56 PM PDT reply actions  

I like him too.
I picked him up for my fantasy team and he immediately hit something like 5 home runs in a week.  It was cool.
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by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please end this game.
I want to write up a post before I go to bed tonight since I'll be out of town this weekend.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 8:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Exciting!
Where are you going?
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by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boston
Gotta celebrate the ol' 21st (cue everyone feeling old) in style.

Plus, BU Terriers home opener. Wooo!!

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enjoy
I celebrated mine... in a casino.  And 'celebrated' is stretching it.

by Gomez on Oct 20, 2006 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mine was monday
I spent it working, going to school, coming home and sleeping.

Woohoo?

:/

by Gomez on Oct 20, 2006 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mets>>>Cardinals
No matter the outcome of this game.
Willie Bloomquist and Mike Hargrove suck

by Mariner John on Oct 19, 2006 8:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Whoanelly
That might have just about done it.

by ThundaPC on Oct 19, 2006 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

YADIER MOLINA!
Awesome.
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by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADIER!!!
WOOO HOOOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!

Go CARDS!!! (except suck-zio)!!!!

Are we there yet?

by PositivePaul on Oct 19, 2006 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Yadier fucking Molina
The St.Louis Cardinals are going to be the National League champs with a grand total of 5 more wins than the Mariners.

Pathetic.

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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

However
I hope the Mets can tie it up so that So Taguchi can hit a home run in the top of the 10th.
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Yadier Molina
Third-lowest OPS among hitters with 300+ AB's. Worse against righties than against lefties.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh
My Mets fan dad, is delusional. Hey called this situation earlier today.
I've had it with mother fucking Hargrove on this mother fucking team!

by Robert on Oct 19, 2006 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Tieing run at the plate.
For the first time, this series is exciting.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

If Cliff Floyd goes deep here
I think the entire East Coast might explode.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

that's
Cliff "Kirk Gibson" Floyd to you, sir
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by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

They we're all winners!
Say goodbye to gravity and say goodbye to death. Hello to eternity and live for every breath. Your Time will Come.

by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Mets
Have some annoying fucking sound effects.

It's game 7.  Cut it down with the PA system.

High strike.

by Garces on Oct 19, 2006 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Kill yourself Cliff Floyd.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Wicked
Though that should have been strike 2.

by Garces on Oct 19, 2006 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate kids with dumb signs.
"Fox rox Reyes rules"?

Someone give that little tyke an atomic wedgie.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 8:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Hypothesis:
Reyes is an aggressive first-strike hitter because he hates hearing that "Jo-se, Jo-se Jo-se Jo-se" PA chant.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 8:38 PM PDT reply actions  

COME ON LO DUCA!
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy Ghost
I thought Reyes had a double.

by JLC on Oct 19, 2006 8:39 PM PDT reply actions  

5.
St.Louis will get lucky.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy crap.
How do you walk Paul LoDuca to face Carlos freaking Beltran?

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh man.
COME ON BELTRAN!
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Beltran
He's so hot right now.

by Garces on Oct 19, 2006 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

In more ways than one.
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by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It ends here.
One way or another.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Hoooooooooooly moly
That's a pitch.

The guy across the hall is upset.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Kill yourself Carlos Beltran.
Tigers in 5.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Ya know...
I really thought Beltran was gonna do it there.  Oops.
We'll Always Have the Kingdome:

by BrettJMiller on Oct 19, 2006 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Jeff Weaver and Scott Spezio
Are in the World Series.

I hate baseball

by Garces on Oct 19, 2006 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

The National League representive has just 83 wins
Some how, that seems appropiate.
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love when New York is upset.
Aside from Player A's worthless ass being the hero, no bad can come out of this World Series.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 8:45 PM PDT reply actions  

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!
If my favorite team can't make it -- I'm all for my favorite NL team goin' for it...

I loathe Spiezio, but, hey, I love my Cardinals!!!

Are we there yet?

by PositivePaul on Oct 19, 2006 8:46 PM PDT reply actions  

No joy in Mudville tonight....
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Heroes:
Player A, Jeff Suppan, Yadier Molina (and Endy Chavez, sort of)

Goats:

Tom Glavine, David Wright, Carlos Beltran

And people wonder why Billy Beane thinks the playoffs are a crapshoot.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 19, 2006 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Suppan, NLCS MVP
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more hero
Scott Rolen.  He surpassed the all-time leader in post-game interview tactics:

[Rolen gets asked about the inning where Endy robbed him of a HR and he made that error that led to runners on second and third]:

Rolen: "That was a tumultuous inning for number 27."

It truly takes skill to refer to yourself in the third-person, not by your name but by your uniform number.  Well done, sir.  You may expect a fruit basket from Rickey Henderson with the message
"Nice Work.  Rickey likes your style.  
- Rickey."

by abelard on Oct 19, 2006 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

And a message on his machine that says
"Jimmy saw you get robbed by Endy. Jimmy is a Mets fan. Screw you Scott!"
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN homepage title
"Hell, Yadier!"
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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 8:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow
The National League sucks so much.

Tigers in four. It won't even be close.

by John Spartan @ Lookout Landing on Oct 19, 2006 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Jeff Suppan, MVP
I guess that's better than his previous title, Jeff Suppan, RLP.

by JLC on Oct 19, 2006 8:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahahaha
And red uniforms too.  Ack.
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by Deanna on Oct 19, 2006 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Hell Yadier"
I don't get it.

by John Spartan @ Lookout Landing on Oct 19, 2006 9:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it's supposed to be some weird play on
"Hell Yeah"

ESPN and MLB's puns suck.

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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN's puns are horrible.
Anyone still have a screenshot of when they had "The Sweet Smell of Colon" as their title page article a few years back?  I think that was back when Bartolo won the Cy, but I'm not sure.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett

by JY on Oct 19, 2006 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two I remember seeing at mlb.com this month
"Mets have the "Wright" stuff."
"Mets preparing for "Maine" event"

A couple of there right now.

"Super Suppan takes home NLCS MVP honors."
"Chavez's "Amazin" catch gave Mets hope."

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by Goose on Oct 19, 2006 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

From last year:
Mariners to Rays: Don't come around here Nomo

:sigh:

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 20, 2006 5:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, come on
I have to credit the Diamondbacks beat writer this year for using the headline "Snakes on a Plane to San Diego" before an away series against the Padres.
Marinerds - a different daily dose of baseblog.

by Deanna on Oct 20, 2006 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hooray!
Detect-O-Vision Whatever. M's not gonna win the Pennant.

by IcebreakerX on Oct 19, 2006 9:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Cards suck
Mariners>>>NL
Willie Bloomquist and Mike Hargrove suck

by Mariner John on Oct 19, 2006 9:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Nah.
Hargrove will be there all next season.  After the M's go 74-88, he'll offer to manage the team for another three years at only $1.5 million per year.

Howard Lincoln will take him up on his offer.

by Tom2000 on Oct 20, 2006 4:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

No. They hired him
so that there would be no threats to Grover's job in the clubhouse.

by Gomez on Oct 20, 2006 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

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