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I'm going to try to get back to the countdown tomorrow night in hopes of having it done by the end of the weekend. But in the meantime, I thought it might be useful to provide a bunch of links to the places I frequent when I need to look up some stats. Consider this to be in the same vein as USSM's Recommended Blogs entry.

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Baseball-Reference: I probably visit this place more than every other website combined. If you need some numbers and don't know where to find them, start here. It doesn't have many of the complicated new-age statistics (OPS+ is about as nerdy as it gets), but it's got tons of splits for players, teams, and leagues, along with pitch data summaries (swinging strike % and all that good stuff), historical information, game logs, transaction summaries, and terrific loading times. Go here. Look around. Get familiar. You'll be glad you did, because what I've told you so far doesn't even scratch the surface of what this place offers. Sean Forman is a hero.

Minors.Baseball-Reference: just what it sounds like - a place to find minor league numbers. Not nearly as detailed as the big league site, but that's hardly a fair comparison. Usually the first place I go when I need information of its kind.

Hardball Times: this post is strictly about statistics, but you should go here for the main page articles, too. Anyway, THT's statistical database is almost overwhelming. It's got offensive, defensive, and pitching stats for both players and teams, along with a handy sortable feature. Runs the gamut from batting average and hits to xFIP and LOB% to RZR and OOZ. Second-most frequently visited baseball resource. (Note that HR/FB is park-adjusted.)

Fangraphs: some overlap with THT, some unique. It's got basic stats, complicated stats, batted ball data, game logs, WPA stuff, pitch frequencies, and convenient leaderboards that seem to get better every week. David Appelman is also a hero. (Note that HR/FB is not park-adjusted.)

Baseball Cube: a lot of what they do is done better somewhere else, but this is still where I go when I'm curious about how a player did in college. Also offers minor league stats.

Josh Kalk's pitcher cards, batter cards, and PITCHf/x tool: the only places to get data of its kind. Tons of stuff using the PITCHf/x information (pitch type, velocity, movement, etc) gleaned from MLB Gameday. Please welcome the new age of statistical analysis.

Hit Tracker Online: velocity and distance information for home runs, updated daily.

Baseball Prospectus: the place to go for all those stats that Bill Plaschke doesn't understand. EqA, VORP, RARP - it's all here.

Day by Day Database: David Pinto's tool allows you to find out how a player performed between two given dates. Can be broken down further by a few splits.

Probabilistic Model of Range: more of David Pinto's work. This is where you go for PMR's interpretation of player/team defense.

Tangotiger.net/mgl: this is where you go for UZR's interpretation of player defense. If you can't find what you're looking for there, try searching the comments of the Inside The Book blog, run by Tango and Michael Lichtman.

tRA: Graham's awesome homemade pitching metric. Graham rocks. (Also, further explanation.)

First Inning: offers some minor league splits, batted ball stats, and spray charts. Also has much of the same information for Major Leaguers, although that's not why I use it. I like the spray charts better than MLB.com's.

Minor League Splits: has minor league splits.

Cot's Baseball Contracts: contract information website that couldn't be better if it tried. Absolutely perfect at what it does.

ESPN: I haven't visited this website in at least a few months. You shouldn't either.

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I think that about covers it. I could be forgetting a site or two, in which case I'll add it to the list as soon as I remember. If you have any questions about where to find certain kinds of information, feel free to ask in the comments.

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Jeff, you should've made
the ESPN link a rick roll. It's an appropriate punishment for those who visit such a site.

by redwolf75 on Mar 16, 2008 11:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll admit ESPN is my homepage...
But not for any sort of analysis (ick), just because I want to read the sports news headlines and their page layout is by far the best of any of the major sports news sources.

by SethGrandpa on Mar 17, 2008 1:57 AM PDT reply actions  

The only thing I hate about the EPSN website
is how graphic intensive it is. You've got video that loads and plays automatically, a huge flash advertisement at the top, two pop-ups my browser blocks, and a flash menu below the front page article. My PowerBook G4 loses 18 minutes of life every time I load the ESPN website.

Fortunately, my new MacBook Pro will be arriving tomorrow. A 256 graphics card is going to be a huge upgrade over whatever lies entombed under my fingers currently.

by Wilder83 on Mar 17, 2008 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still haven't upgraded myself...
I'd like to, sure, but my Powerbook G4 is still working well.  As is my 733 Mhz G4 tower (where I do most of my final photo editing on).  
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by PositivePaul on Mar 17, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let me tell you how I got this computer.
I didn't have $2000 to buy a new computer (well, I did, but it was not worth the money to upgrade). But... I have been dying to get an Intel-based Mac ever since they came out in January 2006. So, last year, a friend told me about his getting a MacBook Pro for $150. Of course I was interested on how he was able to do such a thing. He introduced me to those sites where you sign-up for X number of "offers" and you get a "free gift" after completing them. Well, I took my time and spent roughly $400 over the last year and I qualified for a "free" MBP. I wasn't able to get it for $150 because they changed some of their terms and conditions, but $400 spread out over the last year has made it worth it, especially now Apple came out with the new version MBP.

I actually got the computer last week, but the company doing the promotion sent me the old MBP. I called them and told them they can't do that because they promised a $2000 MBP. The old version is no longer worth $2000 and I demanded the new one. They agreed and I sent them the old MBP back and now they new one is driving around in a truck somewhere in the neighborhood.

I know this is more than anyone probably would want to know, but I got a good deal on a new MBP and I would recommend other people to do the same thing. Unfortunately, the site I went to get the offer no longer offers the MBP. They have other laptops, but no MBP. If you can find one of those promotions, do it. Although, make sure you keep track of everything you sign up for and use a ghost email. I know four other people who got a MBP and they did it within 6 weeks. I took my time but I am going to benefit the most with this new MBP update. Afterall, it was only recently when getting a MBP became a need from a want.

by Wilder83 on Mar 18, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I use Firefox
You can get an extension called "flashblock" that, uh, blocks flash. Works wonders. Plus, all you have to do is click the icon that replaces the flash object and it will load. Works wonders, and I swear by it.
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

flashblock is good
because it's also a crude yet effective rickroll filter.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

B-E-A-utilful
Thanks for the reco.

I also use FF. Best browser out there for my purposes.

Now if only UPS will deliver the computer already! It's been "out for delivery" for 3 hours now!

by Wilder83 on Mar 18, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome stuff
I visited a few of those sites but I've always wondered where to get more data.

Oh, and I use ESPN's specific team pages for schedules and AP articles.  You could use Baseball-Reference as an alternative for that  but I kinda like to use both.

by ThundaPC on Mar 17, 2008 2:52 AM PDT reply actions  

BBRef
has Batting Runs, ie a linear weights runs estimator. Granted, the version it uses does not include SBs and CS, which is nice in it's own way, as that allows you to use weights that you feel are appropriate, and then add that to the total.

That is probably nerdier than OPS+ / ERA+.

visiting A's fan.

by rfloh @ Lookout Landing on Mar 17, 2008 3:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Huh...
No mention of mlbtraderumors.com.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 17, 2008 7:52 AM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn't say it's terrible
it provides exactly what it advertises.

It's just not the least bit reliable.

by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 17, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer
legiimatemajorleaguebaseballtraderumors.net myself
"You know, as that was coming out of my mouth, I knew that it was wrong."

by JI on Mar 17, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stats are stats...
But where do you go if you're looking for NOOZ?
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel

by ConorGlassey on Mar 17, 2008 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah
whooze site can I perooze for nooz I can ooze?
Oh, goodness me, look its baseballnooz.com!

by Bearskin Rugburn on Mar 17, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sidebar Link This Please
Thanks!
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by PositivePaul on Mar 17, 2008 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

isn't is already?
this is basically what the last section under References is.

by Matthew on Mar 17, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh.
Helps if I actually LOOK at the sidebar for a change.  Sorta.  But I did see that before posting, and realized that this explanation of the different sites (and where to find what) would be helpful...
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by PositivePaul on Mar 17, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Other places Jeff goes

//someone had to do it...

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by PositivePaul on Mar 17, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I go to ESPN for Neyer's blog.
But after going here, ussmariner, THT, and tubgirl.com
We have a roof, it retracts

by hcoguy on Mar 17, 2008 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't you need Insider for Neyer?
I hate to say it, but I usually enjoy reading Simmons' column. Other than that, though, espn.com is useless.

by Katal LM on Mar 17, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Simmons as well, sometimes Keith Law
For some reason I have had insider access since it started completely free of charge. It may be cause I did some premium fantasy leagues in the late nineties or my account may have been grandfathered in since I have read Neyer for over a decade on there. Not sure. I think I had an ESPN magazine subscription right when it came out as well.

Its pretty funny, I have a friend who loves ESPN and has me come over his house periodically to login so he can continue to have insider as well.

We have a roof, it retracts

by hcoguy on Mar 17, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Insider is free with the mag subscription.
I read ESPN for Page 2, and basic headlines, but that's about it. Anything else is Insider anyway.
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read the mag on my flight home yesterday
oh my god is that a horrid publication.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's tough to read.
The layout is too busy, and it's an odd size. I would still pick SI over the Mag if I were going to subscribe to one.
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not really the layout
it's the quality of the writing that I have problems with.  Although the layout is annoying, the tone of all the articles is way too conversational and forced - it's like ESPN is trying to be my "bud", and it all comes off like a bald, red-convertible driving 50 year old trying to sound cool.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget 2girls1cup.com
I reject your reality and substitute my own!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 17, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice one
and the reaction videos for ESPN are just as funny - once people realize what they've been watching they can't help but vomit or make funny faces.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWIamvQHgp0
--Talking about reactions, this guy on sportscenter in response to a prank call was hilarious.

by redwolf75 on Mar 17, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a public service
I give you the Rick Roll Database, for use with Adblock Plus and Firefox.  Subscribe to it, and see most of your rick rolls disappear; if one gets through the filter, add it to the database and you won't see it again.

The site's loading slow in the last day or so, but if you fail to find Rick Rolling to be funny, as you really should, it's a nice tool to have.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was quite funny --
for some unknown reason -- but now it's starting to get a little old.

by redwolf75 on Mar 17, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm overusing it on purpose
Since the joke itself was only really funny the first time. Now it is just fun to do, more than anything.
...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Mar 17, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only if you like rolls.
I also like mnemonic devices:

Every Big Girl's IQ (is) 7....

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by PositivePaul on Mar 17, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know.
I have more than one mnemonic devices, too...
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by PositivePaul on Mar 17, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what else rocks
Making a custom baseball reference search in the latest Firefox. I just have to highlight a players name and right click on search the B-R.com and I'm right to his player page.

by Robert on Mar 17, 2008 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

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