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by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 13, 2006 5:13 PM PDT in Seattle Mariners Regular News

Coaching staff update: both Ron Hassey and Dan Rohn have left the organization. Each were told that they wouldn't be coming back in 2007, and while Hassey decided to quit rather than play out the string, Rohn was apparently fired on the spot. Or something. More on this if anything comes up.

On the plus side, we got to see an awful lot of youth.

Biggest Contribution: Raul Ibanez, +2.8%
Biggest Suckfest: Cha Baek, -33.4%
Most Important At Bat: Bloomquist single, +4.4%
Most Important Pitch: Hattig double, -12.3%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -40.0%
Total Contribution by Position Players: -10.0%

(What is this?)

Four-game set in Kansas City coming up, where I guess we get to try and spoil their run at a 63-win season, or something. FA bust from 2005 against an FA bust from 2004, 5:10pm PDT tomorrow evening.

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dear lord, you know its bad

when the guy with the biggest contribution went 0 for 3 with 2 k's!

WIN IT FOR RAFFY!!! marinerworld.blogspot.com

by MFAN on Sep 13, 2006 5:16 PM PDT reply actions

Here's to outfield assists!

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 13, 2006 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions

AH that rights! forgot about that!!

good thing Raul got him, other wise we may have lost this one.

WIN IT FOR RAFFY!!! marinerworld.blogspot.com

by MFAN on Sep 13, 2006 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions

JESUS CHRIST

I didn't even know it was a day game today. We got Stallowned!

What do four singles in an inning equal biatch? Thats right, a m----f---ing run. ~ RoyalsReview

by CecilEltz @ Lookout Landing on Sep 13, 2006 5:20 PM PDT reply actions

It was just announced on the radio

that Ron Hassey and Dan Rohn are no longer in the coaching staff, effective immediately.

by Tony on Sep 13, 2006 5:26 PM PDT reply actions

what the hell?

by Corco on Sep 13, 2006 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions

And they'll have Bavasi's comments

in a few minutes if you want to listen in.

by Tony on Sep 13, 2006 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Bavasi said zip.

by Tom2000 on Sep 13, 2006 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions

This ship is sinking FAST.

by ThundaPC on Sep 13, 2006 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Gotta tip our hat to the starting pitching.

It's not easy to shut down the vaunted Mariner offense but __________ got the job done. Congratulations!

a) Joe Blanton (OAK)
b) Barry Zito (OAK)
c) Nate Robertson (DET)
d) C.C. Sabathia (CLE)
e) Scott Kazmir (TB)
f) Rodrigo "8.0" Lopez (BAL)
g) John Rheinecker (TEX)
h) Joseph Matthew Blanton (OAK)
i) Josh Fogg (COL)
j) Bartolo Colon (LAA)
k) Jeremy Sowers (CLE)
l) Rodrigo "7-11" Lopez (BAL)
j) Dan Haren (OAK)
k) Jered "Mr. Perfect" Weaver (LAA)
l) A.J. Burnett (TOR)

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Mariner starter, ____________ pitched really well in this game but the offense just could not get going today.

a) Felix Hernandez
b) Jamie Moyer
c) Gil Meche
d) Jarrod Washburn
e) Jamie Moyer
f) Gil Meche
g) Jarrod Washburn
h) Jamie Moyer
i) Jamie Moyer
j) Jamie Moyer
k) Felix Hernandez
l) Jamie Moyer
j) Gil Meche (Well, not really)
k) Felix Hernandez

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Man, _________ really sucked today!

l) Cha Seung Baek (w/ Cesar Jimenez)

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Shutout scores:

10-0: Once *new*
5-0: Once
4-0: Twice
3-0: Twice

2-0: SEVEN
1-0: Twice

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Shutout teams (9):

Oakland (x4), Detroit, Cleveland (x2), Tampa Bay, Baltimore (x2), Texas, Anaheim (x2), Colorado, Toronto

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Have we actually shut anybody out?

Joel Pineiro shutout the Red Sox 3-0 (4/15).
Jamie Moyer shutout the Royals 4-0 (6/02).
Jarrod Washburn shutout the Devil Rays 2-0 (8/09).
Jake Woods shutout the Red Sox 6-0 (8/25).
Felix Hernandez shutout the Angels 2-0 (8/28).

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Offseason plan?

Get more pitchers who's first name starts with the letter "J".

by ThundaPC on Sep 13, 2006 5:32 PM PDT reply actions

Rohn and Hassey fired????

WHY???

Hassey and Hargrove are close, so this may be a good sign....but Rohn???

Fire Mike Hargrove!

by Goose on Sep 13, 2006 5:36 PM PDT reply actions

clearly

the Mariners were looking ahead to the gigantic Royals series

www.royalsreview.com

by Freneau on Sep 13, 2006 6:31 PM PDT reply actions

Spot on...

Exactly what I thought...

I can't take this Hargrove shit much longer...

by WAB on Sep 13, 2006 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

With Rohn being gone

looks like we're either stuck with Hargrove, or it's say hello to Dusty Baker.

"I'VE GOT BLISTERS ON ME FINGERS!!"
--Stewie Griffin AND Josh Beckett

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 13, 2006 6:58 PM PDT reply actions

Hargrove is gone.

Apparently I can't say this enough.

Mike Hargrove will not be coaching the Mariners in 2007.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 13, 2006 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions

We can't guarantee it won't be Dusty though

Willie Bloomquist and Mike Hargrove suck

by Mariner John on Sep 13, 2006 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions

From what I've heard

The chances of Baker even being in the running are not good.

Fire Mike Hargrove!

by Goose on Sep 13, 2006 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions

I know

but the thought still sends chills up my spine.

Willie Bloomquist and Mike Hargrove suck

by Mariner John on Sep 13, 2006 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree

I also don't expect Baker to be the next skipper.

But every non-Baker candidate that gets eliminated is bad in my opinion.

by Jerry on Sep 14, 2006 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions

these moves have nothing to do

with the future of Grover.

lets say for some odd reason they bring him back. It wont be because of these moves.

Grover (IMO) is gone.

WIN IT FOR RAFFY!!! marinerworld.blogspot.com

by MFAN on Sep 13, 2006 7:04 PM PDT reply actions

Why, Mariners, why?!

I can't believe they'd decide to turf Dan Rohn like that. He must have did or said something between last Spring and now.

Hassey I can believe. The Mariners stationary bullpen dummy was more useful.

by Gomez on Sep 13, 2006 7:06 PM PDT reply actions

Perfect example

of why the Mariners will spend more time in the cellar than Irish potatoes.

I believe that Rohn was axed because his name came up too frequently in discussions of who would replace Hargrove. With him out of the organization, it will be easier for the FO to hire someone from outside the organization (since there is nobody left within the organization to consider). Hargrove, of course, is thrilled to be rid of the guy who was breathing down his neck and causing him discomfort all year long. Getting rid of Rohn like this may have been appeasement to Hargrove for dumping Hassey.

Hassey was probably let go to clear the way for the next guy to bring in his own bench coach. My guess is that both Hargrove and Hassey were told today that they should feel free to make vacation plans for next spring. Hargrove will ride out the season, but Hassey said forget it -- he'll start his vacation (and job search) early. This way he can be in position to interview for any managing positions that come up at the end of the season (and there will likely be plenty).

Jeff, I hear what you are saying and I am 99% in agreement, but there is still that nagging 1% in the back of my mind that wants to read the Rohn firing as a show of power by Hargrove. My mind says that Hargrove is gone immediately after the last game of the season and the FO has decided not to stick with any of the in-house possibilities. My heart is scared, and my stomach just wants to throw up!

by kva15 on Sep 13, 2006 7:44 PM PDT reply actions

Hargrove has no leverage.

He can't make a "show of power" if he doesn't have any pull.

He's gone after the year. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. I will personally mail a $5 bill to everyone who's ever read this website if Hargrove is still around in December.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 13, 2006 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions

I just took a screen capture of that

just in case

I will come at you like a spider monkey

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 13, 2006 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions

LOL

Good thing he didn't base it on comment contribution, otherwise it'd be $1000 for me and $1500 for Goose.

Dammit, I feel like Corco on USSM now.

by Gomez on Sep 13, 2006 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions

hey if it gets me 5 bucks

I hope Grover is back!

sorry everyone, starving college student-need the money.

WIN IT FOR RAFFY!!! marinerworld.blogspot.com

by MFAN on Sep 13, 2006 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions

As much as I know you're right...

...I could use $5. That would buy a tasty beer. Guess I'll have to buy my own damn beer.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 13, 2006 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions

I was at some gas station in the columbia gorge

camping and got a 12-pack of rainer beer for $4.24. Now thats a steal. It was one of those places thats really small and doesn't have prices on anything. I think we got charged for a six pack instead. My friend and I thought about going back in and buying their whole stock of it if we could get it at that price. Best price I think I'll ever get for a 12 pack of something that won't make me puke all night long.

Disclaimer: Rainer is not very good beer. I know this. It is a good cheap beer though.

by Edgar for Pres on Sep 13, 2006 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Do

you get more if you've refered friends?

by sadean62 on Sep 13, 2006 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Sure, why not?

That's a hypothetical yes.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 13, 2006 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Bavasi is such a bastard

"They're both tough for different reasons," Bavasi added. "Rohn had been here and really had done a good job. And Mike and Ron are real close. They were both tough."

by batura on Sep 13, 2006 8:09 PM PDT reply actions

......so I'm confused

How does those statements make Bavasi a bastard?

Fire Mike Hargrove!

by Goose on Sep 13, 2006 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions

twofaced answer to straight question

Two reasons I think Bavasi is a bastard over this:

One, asked the question about elimiating inside competition over Grover's job, he said something along the lines of `not getting the question`.

Then, asked about Rohn, he says what I posted, about doing a great job etc. At my work, people don't get fired for doing a great job.

by batura on Sep 14, 2006 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions

But I'd also be willing to bet...

...that at your work, a week after someone gets fired, the public face of the company doesn't publicly badmouth the fire-ee.

There's no need for Bavasi to come out and say "Yeah, Rohn was a waste of space and he really didn't add much, so we canned his lazy ass, which will save us money on post-game buffet costs alone" - Bavasi's job is at least part PR, so of course he's gonna spout platitudes about guys, even if they are fired for good reason. That's just kinda the way it works.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 14, 2006 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions

So I forgot

why did we like Dan Rohn so much? Aren't there a bunch of guys just like Rohn who were good minor league coaches all over the place that we could pick up.

I know Hargrove is an idiot but the fact is that a manager isn't that important. You really need to be exceptionally bad (like Hargrove) to have much influence over the game. Even this year, with a different manager, there is no way that we are in the playoffs. I just want a manager who is mediocre and that shouldn't be too hard to find.

by Edgar for Pres on Sep 13, 2006 8:59 PM PDT reply actions

About Dan Rohn...

Look at the talent he's had to manage, and look where he's taken that talent. With the Tacoma-Seattle shuttle operating at a firehose's velocity, Rohn likely had to wait until 6:59 (before a 7:05 game) to post the day's lineup last year. Yet with all that roster churnage (and Seattle pilfering the best talent), he took the R's to the PCL championship.

He's certainly got his issues, but the players know who's in charge, and know that he's got their backs. He knows how to get the absolute most out of his players, and the players respond very well. He would've instantly become a fan favorite in Seattle.

I'm bummed, but, alas. Dan Rohn is finally free.

Free George Sherrill. And Dan Rohn.

by PositivePaul on Sep 13, 2006 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions

I think the reason we liked Rohn was

A.He wasn't Mike Hargrove

and B.He has worked with the kids like Felix and Lopez and Betancourt before and they all liked him. So it was thought that having him continue managing them would be a good idea.

Rohn was not the end all be all of manangers, in fact I would rather of had Giardi if there was an option between the two, but he was a nice option to consider.

But that option is gone now.

Fire Mike Hargrove!

by Goose on Sep 13, 2006 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions

I think I feel similar Goose

Just thought it was an argument somebody needed to say before everybody gets all hot over something that is pretty small.

by Edgar for Pres on Sep 13, 2006 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Unrelated: funniest headline of the day

Peavy pitches Padres past Reds 10-0

What, no headline about Burnett pitching the Jays past the M's 10-0?

by Gomez on Sep 13, 2006 9:15 PM PDT reply actions

It's hard to make

Burnett and the M's as alliterative as Peavy and Padres.

by JLC on Sep 13, 2006 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions

A.J. D.J.s B.J.s to 10-0 over Mariners

Willie Bloomquist and Mike Hargrove suck

by Mariner John on Sep 13, 2006 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions

By the way

Not that anyone cares, but today's bonus image would've been the Lopez HR ticker had he actually played.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 13, 2006 9:38 PM PDT reply actions

I CARE!!!!!!!!!

kinda

by Gomez on Sep 13, 2006 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Is there any way we can get

Earl Weaver to come out of retirement and manage the M's? Just look at this quote:

"Team speed, for Christ's Sake, you get fuckin' goddamn little fleas on the fuckin' bases getting picked off trying to steal, getting thrown out, taking runs away from you. You get them big cocksuckers who can hit the fuckin' ball out of the ballpark and you can't make any goddamn mistakes."

See any room for Bloomquist in that philsophy?

"I'VE GOT BLISTERS ON ME FINGERS!!"
--Stewie Griffin AND Josh Beckett

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 14, 2006 10:32 AM PDT reply actions

That is gold

Wow, I think I should try to hunt down some book about Earl Weaver.

by Edgar for Pres on Sep 14, 2006 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions

I remember growing up...

playing an old PC game called Earl Weaver Baseball. It's still one of the coolest games ever because not only could you create your own players, you could build your own stadiums!! The Mariners were playing outdoor baseball long before Safeco Field was even a thought in my virtual world. They also won several World Series, although the gameplay wasn't a cakewalk like it was in most games of that era. It also had "manage only" options.

by basebliman on Sep 14, 2006 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions

Earl Weaver baseball!!!!!!!!!

Hell yeah- I played that game all the time!

Actually, I learned a lot from that game cuz you could play all-stars from different eras against each other. Knew about guys like Nap Lajoie and Tris Speaker and how they hit against Bob Gibson.

by jtopps on Sep 14, 2006 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions