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OTDOD - Early February Edition

I don't have much to say up here, but the last OT is down on the page and rather full, and let's face it, sort of locked. I'm also not going to datestamp this, as by our recent OT history this may be up for a while.

In my general anti-tradition fashion, I'm going to do the OT my way, with TOPICS below in the first few comments, to keep things sort of contained until more people start topics.

As always, feel free to do whatever you want in this space, within the established guidelines of LL.

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TOPIC - Books, and how do you read them?

Physical or virtual?
Sitting, laying, or lounging (or standing, you rebel you)?
Any particular genres you’ve wanted to get into but never could figure out where to start?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 8, 2012 5:56 AM PST reply actions  

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Virtual, mainly. I have an iPad available to me, but I still can’t bring myself to read graphic novels or magazines in digital format. I got the Wired subscription with my Kindle fire and tried out their comix app, but i feel I just appreciate the artistry and layout more when it is on a physical page without a light behind it. For mainly text books, however, the ability to keep my 20+ active reads in one pocketable device and adjustable text size and orientation is king.

I’ve actually started standing/pacing more as I read, but that’s more related to my next topic, with my new inability to sit. In general, I’d still say I’m a lounger, laying across most of a couch propped up by the edge.

I’ve always been interested in alternate history stuff, and I know that Turtledove is the king by most accounts, but I’m having trouble finding a book to start on of his, or in that genre in particular. It just seems that they all are products of other books I should read first, from the descriptions. Suggestions, anyone?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 8, 2012 6:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm an old-fashioned paper book reader.

I’ve tried to get into e-books but it just feels strange reading something longer than an article on an electronic device. I find my mind wanders to other things I can/should be doing with the device. Plus there’s something intangibly satisfying about turning pages.

I’m a recliner reader, preferably at a 135 degree angle.

I’ve really wanted to get into whodunits but the ones I’ve read have been incredibly dull and/or not interesting enough to keep me going. I tend to like novels with more of a paranormal bent. (Not in ghosts but rather out-of-the-ordinary circumstances, which is why I was a foolish sucker for Dan Brown novels.) I’m not the murder mystery type, which is predominantly what the genre mostly encompasses.

by ThomasG on Feb 8, 2012 6:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I keep my old Kindle around just because it can't do anything else.

I mean, it has a browser, but it’s basically useless.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 8, 2012 6:52 AM PST up reply actions  

In all forms of media I am platform-agnostic

I have a massive CD collection that is now all on my hard drive. I like vinyl records but am not slavish over them. Same with books – I just like reading. I do not currently own an e-reader but I would have no problem owning one if it becomes the predominant way to read books.

The thing i like most about the e-readers is that they cut through the whole book-snob thing. Have you ever been to a house with a bookcase that covers a wall or many walls, but then when you start asking the owner their stock answer is “oh, I’ve never read that one” – they just collect books to collect them? E-readers actually encourage people to read and not fetishize the book, and I love that.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2012 6:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm the exact opposite - I see a book on my shelf and I have to read it, otherwise it's just uselessly taking up space.

On the other hand, I have a bunch of books on my e-reader that I haven’t even bothered with since they’re pretty much out of sight and mind.

by ThomasG on Feb 8, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I just bought one of the cheep Nooks. So far I like it.

It’s not the same as reading a real book and I’ll going to the book store, but I like so far.

by InSpokane on Feb 8, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I read books either on my kindle or listen to books using Audible on my phone.

Recently it’s more audiobooks, because it’s the only real way to read while commuting.

Mariners fan in SF :: @Eric_Dykstra

by lailaihei on Feb 8, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Mostly old-fashioned.

I understand that having some kind of electronic reader would be of great benefit to me, seeing as how I have a fuck ton of books, but it’s always seemed unwieldy when I consider that a lot of what I read is obscure in some way, either in subject matter or that its put out by a small press. Plus, I like tactility and writing in the margins when I feel so inclined.

Reading is mostly laying and lounging, which is bad because it makes me somewhat sleepy and there’s a reasonable chance I’m just going to pass out. I really should just find a proper way to sit and read.

by JY on Feb 8, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Book are books.

Don’t have an e-reader.

I read on the bus, at lunch, during dinner, on the sofa, in the tub, in bed …

I have read things in most genres, I believe, but don’t find that I have to read “everything” in a specific genre— although there are authors I will read everything by, and if they write a series I have to read it in order :)

by msb on Feb 8, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Paperback, usually in a coffee shop or in bed.

Not really a genre but I have no idea where to start with HP Lovecraft so if anyone could point me in the right direction I would be grateful.

by Eyeball Kid on Feb 9, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Physical, although at this point my wall space for putting up new bookshelves is nil and I already have books stacked on my desk, dresser and on top of the shelves. Also some sitting in a box under my desk and some more under my bed.

I can’t use JY’s margin notes justification because I have only highlighted/written in one book even though like JY I read for education and for trade, but this great editorial from The Verge really sums it up for me. There’s also what this editorial is not – I could write an ode to the smell of an old book or the abrasion of rough-cut paper, the scalloped edges, the smell of acid-based ink and mass market paperbacks or the steep contrast between a high quality press and a blazingly white page.

I always read lying down or lounging. Reading while sitting generally means having back support and then looking down at the book, which means getting a nasty crick in my neck.

People keep trying to get me into high fantasy because they know I love YA fantasy series (being a student English teacher next quarter*, I read a lot of YA), but from The Wheel of Time to A Song of Ice and Fire, it’s done absolutely nothing for me.

*Aside: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! FINALLY!!!! YES YES YES! /LLLJ

by harkening on Feb 9, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

There's a certain pleasantness of having a physical book in your hands

but I have to be honest. I’ve done way more reading and way more book purchasing since I got my Kindle.

by BrianL on Feb 9, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see a reason to not read narrative digitally

but none-narriative non-fiction (textbooks and the like) I want physical copies of because I do so much back-and-forthing and tend to be more illustrated.

by Matthew on Feb 9, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Paper, paper, paper.

I am an obsessive margin doodler and note taker, and I do a lot of flipping back to previous paragraphs when I’m reading technical papers that is just extremely inconvenient when you’re not working with physical media. The other issue I’ve had with digital formats is eye strain. E-ink readers are much better than the back lit displays in that regard, but they are still much more taxing than paper.

by Drew_D on Feb 10, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I prefer reading paper books.

However, when I started going to the gym every day it wasn’t very easy to read books that way. So I bought a Kindle and mostly read that way now. Sometimes I read on a treadmill, sometimes the elliptical, and sometimes lounging on the couch. Don’t like to read laying down, cause my arms fall asleep and I never get comfortable.

by royalcurve on Feb 10, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

TOPIC - Ergonomics and Efficiency

Have you ever looked at how you were doing something, no matter how small it was, and realized there was a much better way the whole time?
And if/when you tried it, how did it go, and do you still do it that way?
Have any tips, or think there has to be a better way to do something that’s hard for you?

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by Faux on Feb 8, 2012 6:01 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Answer

I’m now on month 5 of regularly standing at my desk at work, and it’s grossly impacted my life. I can no longer sit long enough to even eat dinner or watch a TV show, and while I was always a task-based person, I’ve now become supercharged with energy and always have to be DOING something. This has seriously strained my relationship with LL, computers, and entertainment in general. XM is now my preferred method of consuming media.

In short, I’ve ruined all the things that I used to find fun with one little change.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 8, 2012 6:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I really miss being able to stand at work

My new job doesn’t allow it and my energy level change is really noticeable.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2012 6:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I do this with ANYTHING and EVERYTHING

From putting my pants on as efficiently as possible to making sure that the last bite of steak pairs with the last bite of potatoes. Not to the point where I freak out if it doesn’t work out perfectly. But I am conscious of it.

by d0nkey on Feb 8, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh, it's been done...

Pulling each leg on is slower/more effort than sitting and putting both legs in at once, then standing and pulling to waist.

Or at least for me.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 9, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't go OCD on that kind of stuff because I get satisfaction in saving a bit of time.

I just feel like if I’m going to do something, I may as well do it the best / most effecient way possible or why bother doing it at all.

Thankfully I’m not the type of person that has to have an alphabetical pantry or anything that extreme.

by d0nkey on Feb 10, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, I think my pantry inventory barcode system is pretty neat.

And I always know when I’m down to my last package of something.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 10, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Tying my shoes.

Made the change to the faster way about 6 years ago and it’s so awesome. Tying knots the other way is dumb

by Matthew on Feb 8, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Do tell?

I slip on everything except work boots, so I don’t have much but curiosity invested, but I’m very intrigued.

Keeping in this line, I do the Japanese shirt folding thing from the viral video ever since I saw it, and I’ve always done the backwards banana peeling that made the rounds a while ago. Both are actually a lot easier once you figure it out.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 8, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Just tried the folding thing. It was quite easy to pick up

but I’m not totally thrilled with the fold so I call it one rung below the shoe-tying

by Matthew on Feb 8, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Faster way?

I am incredibly intrigued by this.

by sanford_and_son on Feb 8, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, a lot of my martial arts.

There are a few things I still do the old way because I can either make it work or it’s so instinctual at this point there’s not much point retraining.

by Aussie Mariner on Feb 9, 2012 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm in the same boat

I found a dojo that teaches the exact same style of Karate I grew up with, and I tried to take classes there… I made it through literally 1 class before a small difference in how the sensei liked his students’ fists to be holstered made me give up.

It was such a minute change but it was so ingrained in me to have my fist holstered at my hip, instead of higher up, that trying to retrain myself was upsetting. I’ll do it my own way, thanks.

by HititHere on Feb 9, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

There are some things I do under my current instructors that are hold overs from former instructors.

I’ve explained to them what I was told and why, demonstrated that it worked, they showed me their versions, told me shy, showed that it worked then left it up to me to do my own thing, pretty much.
Some of them I changed, some I did not. They don’t care as long as I don’t teach anyone else “my” way, which I have no problem with.

by Aussie Mariner on Feb 10, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a good system

It seemed that the dojo I was training at wasn’t going to be hospitable to me doing it differently—there was almost a fetish for holstering your fist high up on your side. It felt so wrong to me I couldn’t fathom trying to do it. Or trying NOT to teach other people to do it my way. So, that was that.

by HititHere on Feb 13, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I've been really, really lucky with my instructors.

The closest they’ll go is “I wouldn’t do it that way because….” or more often “I do it this other way because…”

by Aussie Mariner on Feb 13, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I found that higher hands made for faster traps.

i.e. someone is a bit off balance or slow on their lunge, it takes nothing more than an open hand and a little weight shift to either win the point or lock them down (depending upon whether the tourney was full or non contact ).

by ToddK on Feb 15, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

The basics are taught to you.

What you do with the learning is up to you. My Sensei was very rigid in his teachings so my adaptations didn’t fly well with him. I was always a, I guess the term “less violence guy”(i.e. I preferred to trap my opponent’s arms and either put them on the floor or just hold them until the ref called a break) should work. While he was more of a “attack any time you have the chance” kind of guy.

I usually did well in competition despite my “lack of aggression”.

by ToddK on Feb 18, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It really depends what you want out of your martial arts experience, too.

I do three on a regular basis. One is mostly self defence, one is more sports/sparring, and the third one is fun/tactics/challenge/best cardio workout on the planet – and the longest term project.
(Just spend the weekend away learning from the top guy in Aus for the last one, that was a fun way to spend the weekend).
I agree with you, though. Learning the techniques are one thing, but how you apply them can be a whole different kettle of fish. I don’t think I’ve ever had an instructor who hasn’t said something along the lines of “At some point you just have a pool of reactions to choose from” rather than being “You must do this”.

by Aussie Mariner on Feb 19, 2012 12:13 AM PST up reply actions  

TOPIC - Handmade Gifts/Food

Are these acceptable anymore, aside from kids to family in the case of gifts and within family and close friends for food?
What’s the coolest handmade thing you’ve gotten or given?

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by Faux on Feb 8, 2012 6:04 AM PST reply actions  

The only reason I ask this is because I was told that it's not anymore.

I made a (really nice) massage table for a friend that is in school for it, as a gift. He loved it at first, but when he asked where he could get another one for his parent’s house (he goes to school there, but lives around me) and found out I bought it, he acted like it was going to fall apart at any moment.

He ended up actually getting another table, some crappy fold-up one that will actually probably fall apart one day soon, and I ended up taking that table back and turning it into an awesome coffee table.

We’re no longer friends over it, and he’s of a mind that I gave him some crappy gift because I was too cheap to buy one (the materials and time involved were much more than a comparable table would have cost). This makes no sense to me, and I wish more people would make me neat things. I can’t possibly be alone in this?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 8, 2012 6:30 AM PST up reply actions  

*bought=made in the first paragraph. Balls

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 8, 2012 6:32 AM PST up reply actions  

You're not alone. That seems weird. I feel like the DIY "movement" has made handmade stuff acceptable.

Side note: When I saw the price of yarn, I started to really treasure all the sweaters my mom knits.

by yuniform on Feb 8, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

You're not alone. That seems weird. I feel like the DIY "movement" has made handmade stuff acceptable.

Side note: When I saw the price of yarn, I started to really treasure all the sweaters my mom knits.

by yuniform on Feb 8, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

That was ... odd.

But then, I know people who are horrified at the idea of getting a used book.

If the only way you can get said book is used, why not?

by msb on Feb 8, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Only based off of that story alone, that guy is a dick.

My girlfriend makes handmade cards for birthdays, xmas, etc. and everyone loves them. Getting something handmade these days is awesome

by d0nkey on Feb 8, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I prefer handmade gifts,

I received a homemade blanket that was lined with flannel, it is the best blanket ever.

by forte40 on Feb 8, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I made handmade things all the time.

Right now, for example. A friend is getting married, and she’s a Roller Derby girl who’s into baking. So I made an apron and am embroidering a derby girl onto it. Mostly I make cakes or pies for people since, well, that’s what I do. But if I had any skill with carpentry I’d make more useful things too. I would love it if people gave me handmade gifts or food. They never do, though.

by royalcurve on Feb 10, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

They're having all sorts of issues, network-wide it looks like.

Hell, commenting was disabled a little while back. I’ve been waiting for this site to do that for years, nice to know they can.

They’ll probably clear it up in a few hours.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 8, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm having the same problem.

I went so far as to construct a new off-topic and everything because I couldn’t see this one.

by JLProck on Feb 9, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Oakland got clobbered.

From 82 to 76 wins. Both Rangers and Angels move up to +90 wins. Sounds about right.

by ThundaPC on Feb 9, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but it did have it's downsides.

That was when drunk posting was all the rage, which is something we’re probably better without.

by joof on Feb 8, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow the question link isn't broken yet?

Somebody is loyal webhost

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by Corco on Feb 8, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You're not.

I almost never buy/wear anything else if.
Unfortunately my current work is uniformed shirts, and they have stripes.
I HATE STRIPES ON MY BUSINESS SHIRTS!

by Aussie Mariner on Feb 9, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Like I don't completely hate understated stripes

but big, bright stuff just kills me, it looks so tacky. Give me a nice, clean, good fitting solid grey or white or blue any day of the week

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm the same way, solids pretty much all the time, bright colors are fine

I also really dislike shirts with only white collars, unless the shirt is the same shade of white, which wouldn’t be a white collared shirt but just a white shirt. Especially when it is a colored striped shirt with a white collar, awful

by Craptastic-J on Feb 9, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I always had him pegged as a Cardinal and Gold kind of guy

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Feb 15, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate white.

I’m okay with almost anything else. Particularly partial to blue, almost any shade.

by Aussie Mariner on Feb 10, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Solid dress shirts or vertical pinstripes.

And 99% of the time, pinstripes are merely a different shade of the primary color. This whole check pattern fad has got to end.

by harkening on Feb 9, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Give me any type of western shirt, and I am happy.

Pretty much doesn’t matter whether it is solid or has a pattern, but it can’t be a wild crazy pattern.

by seattle_since_81 on Feb 9, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Rich Harden is out for the year.

Looking at his BR page, here are some interesting things I notice:
Rich Harden has never actually missed a full season before.
Rich Harden has pitched at least one game in the minors in every season of his career.
In case you forgot, Rich Harden was a 38th round draft choice of the Mariners that did not sign.
Rich Harden has thrown 2 complete games in his career, both in 2005.
Between Chicago and Oakland in 2008, Rich Harden had an ERA of 2.07 over 148 innings with 5.8 hits per 9 and 11 K/9.
Rich Harden gave up 23 HR in 141 innings in 2009.
So long for now Rich Harden. It will be weird not seeing you throw 50 innings.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 9, 2012 9:46 AM PST reply actions  

Tech team!

I am thinking about buying this on today’s woot. Any idea if it’s good or not? The engadget review was particularly glowing (for the price point).

I’m not really a tablet power user, I’ve never had one, but I really like toys

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2012 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

If you're planning to root it, it's a pretty good deal.

If you’re using it stock, ehhhhh…. It’s laggier than a Fire (although with a bigger screen).

A have a couple friends that bought it when it was brand new and they’ve since moved on to a Xoom and Thrive.

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by Faux on Feb 9, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Not too hard, just google whatever tablet you have at the moment and there'll likely be step by step directions.

Going back to base might be a little harder, depending on the method, but you should be able to find one that had directions for backing up your current config (or the new OS doesn’t touch the old one).

As for the Fire not having Amazon Market, there’s a very very simple way around that. I don’t have real internet right now, but google sideload kindle fire and it’s seriously like 4 steps.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 9, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Rooting is pretty straightforward for most droid devices.

There are step by step guides and videos. But, if they are charging 270 for an 8GB model I think you can do better.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 9, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I've got a bunch of spare micro SD cards floating around, so storage isn't a huge concern for me

since it’s the one thing I can definitely upgrade, I’m more concerned with the video playback abilitiy

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Video playback will likely be ok.

The problem w/ external SDs is it takes some Linux trickery to get apps and media to store on it. I dont know what your comfort level is with that OS, but it is not as straightforward as you might think. So, again, for streaming you’ll be just fine Im sure, but if you plan on toting movies around on the tablet it may be less user friendly.

Another, probably minor consideration is that Android 3 code was never released so there is little development for it by the crowds. You can still root with relative ease which would allow you to run things like Titanium Backup and manually determine app permissions (for instance, the facebook app can’t do anything on my phone I don’t allow it to do). But ,no cyanogenmod.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 9, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't change my opinion much. It was laggy mainly because of RAM in the first place.

But the stock tablet did do fullscreen HD video + Netflix without any hiccups, so it’s not like it’s horrible or anything.

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by Faux on Feb 9, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Aha, yeah, don't bother with the Fire then.

No expandable memory = if you don’t have WiFi handy you’re stuck with not much.

Although the 7" form factor is a very nice thing for traveling, it fits nicely in a jacket’s inside pocket. Full 10" tablets seem to be in the way on planes.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 9, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, I think I'm settled on this then

planes aren’t a huge concern either, since I usually travel on the corporate charter, so what I was looking for was something I could run Netflix and video on without having to carry around two laptops (my work laptop is far too slow to do anything useful with).

Now I just need to get confirmation on the RAM… it sounds like the 1.5 GHz models, which this deal is apparently for, ship with 1 GB of RAM in preparation for Android 4.0… I’m guessing that would make a huge performance difference?

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It would help with the loading times for sure, but probably not so much the UI lag.

I mean, it’d make it better most likely, but not astronomically so.

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by Faux on Feb 9, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Anybody have a good porter recommendation? Somehting I could find here in MT?

Big Sky isn’t brewing Cowboy Coffee this year, and I’m not finding Pipeline Porter for some reason.

by BigR on Feb 9, 2012 5:52 PM PST reply actions  

Deschutes' Black Butte is good and you are likely to find it in a Fred Meyers, Top Foods, Safeway type place.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 9, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, I was hoping it'd get mentioned.

I was checking it out at the store earlier.

by BigR on Feb 9, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You really can't go wrong with any brew with Deschutes on the label.

The other day I finally tried Red Chair and found it good enough to pick up a few to take home. This is from someone who finds most pales to be so underwhelming that I normally don’t even bother mentioning them in beer discussions.

by ToddK on Feb 9, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Red Chair is pretty good.

Not a huge fan of Black Butte though.

Though on the porter note, I had Full Sail’s Imperial Bourbon Barrel Aged Porter this evening and damn.

by JY on Feb 9, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It was at College Inn on Thursday, but it's probably gone now.

May be my favorite porter I’ve had so far, but it’s a style that has been a little hit or miss for me.

by JY on Feb 11, 2012 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Haven't tried it.

If they have it on tap at my school’s bar, I’ll give it a go this week.

by Rachmaninoff on Feb 11, 2012 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Obsidian is a fantastic stout brewed by Deschutes.

Black Butte is very good as far a porters go, but Obsidian stout, while a bit darker and more complex in flavor, is far superior.

by ToddK on Feb 11, 2012 8:32 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I wasn't a fan of Obsidian much.

Though you might disregard as my tastes may be weird. I think Jubale is overrated, which I think that qualifies as heresy round these parts.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 11, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll leave the flaming to the other good beer fans around here.

Though I will ask what winter brew you found to be better than the ’11 Jubelale. and why you found Jubel to be lacking.

Personally, I thought the ’11 version of Jubelale was their best ever.

by ToddK on Feb 11, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

On a side note,

Costco now has Inversion in stock. I’m both happy to see it and curious to see if it lasts past spring.

by ToddK on Feb 11, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I had unfair expectations as I'm not a winter ale guy and people saying universally good thing about Jubelale convinced me to give it a whirl.

I suppose it is not so much that Jubelale is overrated as I think all winter ales are overrated, but that is why I said I was weird as a lot of people who like good beers like winter ales and Jubelale in particular. Overrated is way too strong a word, I just don’t know what the fuss is about.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 12, 2012 1:41 AM PST up reply actions  

So wouldn't it be more accurate to say that winter ales don't really suit your taste?

Saying that winters are overrated is pretty much like saying that mac and cheese is overrated as a food even though millions of Americans eat it on a daily basis.( this analogy is an over-generalization)

by ToddK on Feb 12, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, that would be closer to what I meant to say.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 12, 2012 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Guessing by your comments,

that a beer you might enjoy would be Theakston Old Peculier.

It’s a nice bitter imported from England. If you live in the Seattle area, you can pick some up at Full Throttle Bottles. Give it a shot.

by ToddK on Feb 12, 2012 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Jubelale was darned good to drink, but I had a stomach ache an hour later.

Of course it may have been the (too much) chili that accompanied said beer.

by Rachmaninoff on Feb 12, 2012 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

it's not super fancy or a big secret

But I’ve always been a huge fan of anchor steam porter. They are nationally distributed.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 9, 2012 7:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Anchor Steam is a nice porter.

Not something that I’d go too far out of my way for but well worth drinking.

by ToddK on Feb 9, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll have to try that as well as I'm always looking for a good porter.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 9, 2012 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Samuel Smith's Taddy Porter and Fullers London Porter are both fantastic.

I’ve definitely seen the former mentioned on here it shouldn’t be too hard to find.

by Eyeball Kid on Feb 10, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

As a secondary note

It seems almost impossible to get a decent pasty around these parts.

by ToddK on Feb 11, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Bobo's robust porter.

It’s decent, but a big step down from the Cowboy Coffee for my taste buds.

by BigR on Feb 9, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Good to know.

I haven’t tried it yet, despite finding the label art to be adorable. Might see if I can grab a single somewhere before I spend a whole $9 on a six-pack.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 10, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

It's been pretty well received for the most part, just doesn't quite do it for me.

To me, it seems more generic and bland, not as distinct of a flavor as the Cowboy Coffee.

by BigR on Feb 10, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Pipeline Porter seems to have disappeared from the shelves pretty quickly this season. Huge bummer.

Ninkasi’s new porter ReNewAle (lol get it?) is actually really damn. Very hoppy for a porter, almost borders on a black IPA. Not sure if Ninkasi distributes in Montana, though.

I bet you could find Black Boss Porter at a fancy beer shop, though. Stuff is strong and tasty and you can feel like a sophisticated Euro when you drink it.

by sanford_and_son on Feb 10, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I tried koko brown today.

That’s about the best I can say about it.

by ToddK on Feb 18, 2012 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

My opinion too.

It’s the only beer I’ve ever had a hard time finishing.

by BigR on Feb 19, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

You should try their Wailua Wheat

That stuff is nearly undrinkable.
Trying to track down some Koko to try for myself. I think I’ll like it, but it doesn’t seem like their is a direct translation between Pipeline love and Koko like, which is what I had assumed.

by Craptastic-J on Feb 19, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe the coconut doesn't do it for you? Hard to pinpoint the why sometimes

The passion fruit in the Wailua Wheat is not real noticeable but it’s definitely a strikeout. That beer is just an all-around mess though, so not a good comp.

by Craptastic-J on Feb 19, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I drank quite a bit of Pipeline so I had faith in Kona when I bought that Wailua

It was like Bud with a shot of fruity suntan lotion. They should be embarrassed.

by Craptastic-J on Feb 19, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I got a Kona sampler for Xmas

and was stoked because I either misread the box or wishcasted that the seasonal was Pipeline. Instead, it was Wailua Wheat. I hadn’t bought beer in a while and I guess I wasn’t paying close enough attention, because this week I looked in and saw nothing but Wailua Wheat in my fridge. Straight out of a nightmare.

I had one, but that’s all I’m able to do. The rest may find their way into beer bread or something, though I worry it might make the bread inedible too. I’m a huge supporter of Kona, but that beer is completely nasty.

by marc w on Feb 21, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

So I can't believe I almost let a subthread about porters going by without mentioning my favorite style.

Baltic porters! They are tremendous. Different from what you’d expect out of a porter like Cowboy Coffee but of man, they’re great. Just a little bit sweet and a little bit sour and nice and strong without an overpowering taste of alcohol. Black Boss is probably my favorite, and it’s pretty widely available and quite affordable.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 11, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

From Jeff's post on the mothership, I got curious about the 2003 Tigers and found this little gem

in 2003, Nate Cornejo pitched 194.2 innings and recorded… 46 strikeouts. <em>FORTY SIX!

To put that in perspective, it’s 2.1 K/9. Noted ball-in-play artist Anthony Vasquez nearly doubled that strikeout rate in 2011 for the Mariners.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cornena01.shtml

by seattlebruin on Feb 10, 2012 10:42 AM PST reply actions  

Has anyone here ever worked at the Everett Aquasox for a summer job before?

Like as a concession person or something along those lines? I’m considering putting in an application for this summer since their season more or less fits perfectly into my back-to-school schedule and I want to make sure it’s not somehow the shittiest job on the face of the Earth.

by Cascadian Man on Feb 10, 2012 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

I have a friend that works for them, the stories I've heard make it sound like a fun place.

When I attended a game last season, the employees I encountered all seemed to be enjoying themselves. So, it’s probably a pretty solid job for what you are looking for, and hey, baseball!

by Patrick Stites on Feb 10, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Question for the numbers-inclined or statistic-minded

What does a correlation of .69 tell me about two sets of numbers? I used Excel’s CORREL function to calculate the correlation between Set A and Set B, and it came out as .69. But what does that mean? Is that a strong correlation or a weak one?

Keep in mind when you’re trying to answer me that a) I last took a math class in 1988 b) I tend to think that 2+2 = rutabega and c) numbers intimidate me.

by pdb on Feb 10, 2012 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

If I was going to take a guess,

I’d guess that it means there’s a 69% correlation between the two sets. I am probably wrong though because I am absolute shit with Excel and my maths are currently warped from DiffEq.

by Cascadian Man on Feb 10, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess that's my question

is a 69% correlation considered “strong”? What is the dividing line (if there is one) between “strong” and “weak” correlations?

by pdb on Feb 10, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

.69 is fairly strong.

Between zero and 1, the closer you get to 1, the stronger the correlation.

by harkening on Feb 10, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

That’s exactly what I was looking for.

by pdb on Feb 10, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I could be wrong, since almost all of my stat background came from psych:

I think it’s field dependant – that would be a super strong correlation in Psychology, but that’s because there is so much noise around that could be contributing. Most of the psych research I’ve seen tops out around .5.
I think the definition they gave us was something along the lines of a 0.69 means 69% of the time the change in variable A will result in the change in variable B. Or it could have been changes in variable A result in 69% of the changes in variable B.
Or not. I’m going to stick with project management, it has less statistics!

by Aussie Mariner on Feb 10, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there any fruit that is grown locally that either you grew up on or have been converted to that's just better than the same thing from anywhere else?

I just had my first new season apple, and it was sensational.
My home state is known as the apple isle (it’s even on our number plates), and I’ve never had apples anywhere that taste as good as these do.
I am sad that I only bought two to work, and have to wait another two hours before I can eat more.

by Aussie Mariner on Feb 10, 2012 5:40 PM PST reply actions  

Awww, sad. :(

Jeffrey Zaslow killed.

I’m halfway through The Last Lecture right now.

by wazzu93 on Feb 11, 2012 12:04 PM PST reply actions  

All-Star Game!

I just secured tickets to the All-Star Game (and surrounding events). Has anyone ever been to one before or even in a city that hosted to attend non-game events? Is the fan fest worth it? Is anything other than the Futures Game worth checking out before the main event?

by KC Mariner on Feb 11, 2012 4:14 PM PST reply actions  

The Fanfest was worth it.

If I had the opportunity to take in another All Star Game, I would go to as much as I possibly could.

I probably wouldn’t try to hang out for the Celebrity Softball game, though.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Feb 11, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Grill advice:

My wife and I are looking for a grill, but we live in an apartment and have a really small patio so it has to be propane and small.

The Weber Q series is generally regarded as the go-to in that segment, but they’re a little more than we’d ideally like to spend. Anyone have any other recommendations? It’s just the two of us, so a small cooking surface is fine and we probably wouldn’t be buying a stand so one not being available as an accessory isn’t an issue.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 11, 2012 10:12 PM PST reply actions  

We had a nice discussion about this last summer when I too was in the market.

the ability to pull it up from the archives appears to be one of the things still not working right with SBN.

by msb on Feb 11, 2012 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Which one are you looking for a comparison to?

The Q series ranges from really small at the 100 to almost full size at the 300 level.

Also, gas or electric?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Shit, ignore my gas question. Got caught up in other things.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 13, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

The 100.

When I say our patio is small, I mean really really small.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 13, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Tech support people, I would like some laptop advice.

I need a new LLaptop, and I’d like to crowdsource your more knowledgeable opinions before I jump into a $500+ purchase.

I bought my last laptop, an HP Pavilion, right as Windows Vista came out in 2007. (I was a junior in high school. I was naive. I know, I know.) It went five years before its hard drive basically ceased functioning. (It takes a solid 15 minutes to start up and another 10 to open Mozilla Firefox, and it only goes 10 to 15 letters’ worth of typing before freezing up again.) Ideally, I’d like to have that same sort of lifespan again, especially because I graduate from college in June and won’t have money to spend on it afterward. I really need to come up with a solution soon, too, because it’s pretty much impossible to go through college without a laptop now.

Windows/Macintosh is a consideration here, because I’ve grown a lot more comfortable with Mac and the journalism world operates on it. It doesn’t need to be amazingly powerful because I’m not editing videos or running any sort of videogames, but it needs to be good enough to not be obsolete after just a year or two. Cost is definitely a consideration here, because my job at the student paper only gives me so much money to work with, so dropping $1,000+ is out the window.

I’m going to be doing a lot of word processing and Internet surfing with it and nothing much outside of that, but I need something that’s going to go a long time before dying.

by thehemogoblin on Feb 12, 2012 5:52 PM PST reply actions  

If $1,000+ isn't an option, that eliminates pretty much the entirety of Apple's lineup.

Since you also seem to be putting a premium on lifespan, I’ll recommend (and this comes as a shock to absolutely no one) a Lenovo Thinkpad. Specifically the T420 starting at $799

The first Thinkpad I owned, I inherited from my dad. I replaced it once it was about six years old and I could have wrangled some more life out if it if I wanted to. Second Thinkpad I bought was the T400, predecessor to the T420 linked above. I’ve had it for three years now and I don’t forsee the need to replace it for at least another few years.

The really nice thing about the Thinkpad is the construction is really solid. It takes beating and is far, far more durable than any consumer grade laptop you could buy from HP or Dell.

by BrianL on Feb 12, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

+1 on the ThinkPad

I’ve had several, and loved them. My father loves his, too.

The T420 is what I’d go for…the T, W, and X series are the best/“real” ThinkPads. You pay more for less flash/power than you might get elsewhere, but they’re built like tanks. Plus, they’re one of the few mainstream options that offer a matte screen. (I HATE the glossy screen on my current Macbook Air. NEVER again will I buy a glossy-screened computer if I can help it…)

by Rachmaninoff on Feb 13, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

One of the best features of the Thinkpad.

I hate, hate, hate glossy screens and it seems like the Thinkpad is the only thing on the market that still sells matte.

by BrianL on Feb 14, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Brian and I are almost always in agreement on Lenovo as a go-to piece of machinery.

Thinkpads are almost always LLIT approved.

Even that E series they have on sale for VDay looks pretty good – LINK

That being said, if you can swing almost a thousand, the new MacBook Airs are great travelling pieces of equipment, and being a student you should get somewhere around 8-10% off. That 11" screen on the base model is a little small for most people, though, I’d give it a look first. That being said, I wouldn’t get a used MBA, as only the latest version is really worth it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 13, 2012 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

The 11" MBA is pretty small.

Credit to Apple for squeezing a full-sized keyboard, but I’d have a hard time using that ultraportable for anything productive over long stretches of time.

The Thinkpad X220 is one I’m pretty fond of right now. Larger screen than the MBA, excellent battery life, ultraportable form factor, and it’s $100 cheaper than the low-end MBA.

by BrianL on Feb 13, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, but he asked so I gave the option ;P

The X series Lenovo’s we deployed have hinge issues ): , but that was a couple models ago so it’s probably fixed.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 13, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah the 300 and 301 had hinge issues, maybe also the 201.

Seems to have gone away with the 220. We picked up a pair at work last year and one of the first things I noticed that the hinge seemed beefier than various Thinkpad models over the last five or six years.

by BrianL on Feb 13, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

As far as the MacBook Air goes

I’d keep an eye on the refurbished section of the online Apple store. Those computers are all used, but there are usually some of the current version at a 10-20% discount.

by enguy on Feb 13, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you all so much.

I just pulled the trigger on a T420 on sale and got it for $899.

It’s got Windows 7 Pro, the big battery, 4 GB of RAM, a 500 GB hard drive, 14" screen and Bluetooth (that came free).

I’m happy.

by thehemogoblin on Feb 15, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Excellent, good choice.

That machine should last you for many years. Enjoy!

by Rachmaninoff on Feb 17, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So the Yankees are determined to move Burnett one way or another

and I can’t help but think that this is the bad contract swap partner Seattle needs to get rid of Figgins. Burnett is owed more money but the Yankees are reported to be open to eating as much as two thirds of what he is owed. Anyone else think this is a good idea?

Burnett wasn’t so good last year, but his xFIP was a very respectable 3.86. His homer problem would benefit from Safeco to some degree, and the walks ought to drop as well. I personally would be more comfortable starting Burnett than Millwood.

Why would the Yankees want Figgins? That’s a hard one to say. They gave Bill Hall an invite to ST. A Rod’s legs and hips are starting to give out a little… Yeah. That’s all I got. If I had thought this out more it wouldn’t be in the OT.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 13, 2012 8:21 AM PST reply actions  

I think the key there is "Why would the Yankees want Figgins"

I can’t see that happening, I really can’t. But I’ve been wrong before.

by pdb on Feb 13, 2012 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess if the Yankees were really desperate to get rid of Burnett and they thought Figgins could be a legitimate super-utility player, then it might work.

But, even in that scenario, I can’t imagine the Mariners walking away without having to give up something of (marginal) value in return. Burnett’s snake-bitten but he’s still a moderately useful starting pitcher; Figgins is nearly devoid of value.

by ThomasG on Feb 13, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I know its a stretch. But Burnett is less than useless to them - they have two better pitchers to take his spot

and Figgins is a good utility player if you disregard his contract. The other why is salary. Say the trade is straight up. Mariners effectively spend five or six million on a veteran starter and an open roster spot, while the Yankees save a bunch of over-the-luxury-tax money.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 13, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

If the trade is straight up, the Mariners end up $15M in the hole to swap Burnett for Figgins

Burnett also has a limited no-trade clause, and provided how the Mariners have played the last two seasons, it’s very imaginable that we are on his list, and would take another couple million to buy it out.

If we’re dropping $6M extra to swap Burnett for Figgins, great. $15-$18M, not so much.

by seattlebruin on Feb 13, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait a sec

both players have two years left, Burnett is owed about 30M, Figgins 18. So, 12 extra over both years unless Im mistaken about one of the contracts.

As for the no trade clause, those tend to include likely trade destinations to give the player extra bargaining power, not the other way around. Seattle’s being terrible actually makes it more likely that thay are not on the list, although who knows.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 13, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't get the desire to trade Figgins

As our roster is constructed right now, he stands to be a pretty useful piece for us. He’s not what we’re paying for, sure, but we have a real need a guy who can steal bases and play adequate defense around the field.

If we were getting something useful in return I’d be OK, but I’d rather just start Beavan if it came to that than trade for Burnett and not have Figgins.

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Feb 13, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The desire to get rid of Figgins really comes down to the frustration he has caused Mariner fans.

Shitty hitting, shitty fielding, shitty attitude. Is his attitude and fielding always terrible? Probably not, but the times when it is terrible is certainly frustrating and amplified by how awful his bat has been.

Now does this mean he should be moved in any deal? No, not really. A swap for Burnett doesn’t really make sense for us.

by Patrick Stites on Feb 13, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know- I feel like I want to keep giving him a chance for some reason

If only because would it not be hilarious if we won the World Series this year on the back of Chone Figgins?

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Feb 13, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

More seriously though the Mariners tend to just cut/dump bad contracts

I can’t remember a bad contract where we’ve taken the player and given him a good opportunity to succeed in a limited role. We sign shitty players to start and then they can’t start and then we release them or trade them for another bad contract, without trying to salvage something. I’d love to see Chone quietly be a good contributor to the team off the bench.

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by Corco on Feb 13, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

At this point, what he’s owed doesn’t matter anymore. That money is not coming off of the books until it comes off the books. Even if we trade him, it’s not coming off the books. At best, it’s replaced by another bad contract.

As a “Willie Bloomquist type”, Figgins would be just fine. Maybe in the best case scenario, he’s Mark McLemore. But to trade him because of his contract is moot. That contract is ours and you can have it, but you won’t want it. We just need to pretend that the money owed to Figgins is being paid to Ackley, and then it will feel like a bargain.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 14, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

The merging of two trendy things!

http://runforyourlives.com/

I like the proliferation of tough mudder style races with less competition and more fun, but the zombie version just seems like a cashing in on the genre. I can’t help but thinking if these races were around ten years ago someone would make a Blair Witch version.

If I was more enterprising, I think something like this based around the Celtic or Scot games would be pretty awesome, complete with pole tossing and such.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 13, 2012 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

Unexcited.

Mud runs are fun events, but this is too much camp. I think this is going to be my next silly run:

Ragnar Relay (6 runners, 2 vans, 2 days)

by Drew_D on Feb 13, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm in SF, although my running group has discussed the hood to coast race.

This is similar, just better located. We like running charity races when we can, but the additional travel costs for Hood to Coast make it less appealing.

by Drew_D on Feb 13, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I need the collective LL brain

A while back, like mid-90’s maybe (or it could have been early 2000’s, even), a major league owner was talking about the business of running a baseball team and how it was like any other business. In one discussion, he went so far as to describe the game of baseball in business terms, and with a completely straight face he called a fly ball a transaction. I could swear it was Tom Hicks, but I can’t find anything on the Googles to support my memory.

Does this ring a bell with anybody?

by pdb on Feb 13, 2012 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

I just tried this delicious raspberry vanilla stout from Trade Route Brewery this weekend

It was sooooooooo good. I don’t normally like beer this dark, but this was not bitter at all.

Anyone else tried Trade Route’s stuff? What do you like best? I had tried something of theirs a while back, but I’m going to make it a point to frequent this place more often (it’s right by my house). They were out of their ginger pale and mango weizen, which was disappointing, but understandable since they were without power for almost a week during the snowstorm.

by HititHere on Feb 13, 2012 12:04 PM PST reply actions  

It's small, located in a warehouse in an industrial district

It’s in Pacific, WA a few miles South of Auburn and just off highway 167. It’s a diamond in the rough if I’ve ever seen one.

The seasonal beer I tried above isn’t currently listed on their website, but it was soooo good.
Link

by HititHere on Feb 13, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

They're available at plenty of retail shops.

What I want to know is: do they still brew all of the old Laughing Buddha brews like the Kaffir Lime IPA, or the Pandan Brown? I had a few of those, but I just looked at the Trade Route website and it looks quite different.
I don’t see a kaffir lime IPA, just something called “Hoppy Bitch.”

by marc w on Feb 13, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, maybe, but it just seems like a completely different brewery now.

That’s not necessarily a bad thing, and I wish them the best of luck. Thought there was potentially a market for the kaffir lime/pandan leaf/ginger/lemon grass infused beer, and while they haven’t entirely abandoned that approach, it seems like a small part of their operation now. At least from what I could tell on their website.
You found a raspberry-vanilla stout that I didn’t see on the website, so maybe they save their more outre offerings for the brewpub.

by marc w on Feb 13, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I love it when it's done right.

Doesn’t seem like too many of them are done right though.

by Cascadian Man on Feb 13, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

They can't all be Bubba Hotep

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 13, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Great and criminally underappreciated movie

Funny and weird but also a pretty dark meditation on what it means to grow old in America.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 13, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It's under-appreciation seems understandable more than criminal.

The movie is utterly unwatchable for sections. I understand what they were shooting for, and that it’s Bruce Campbell with all the Bruce Campbellness, but you have to not want to turn it off and walk away for the message to get through.

by Drew_D on Feb 13, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I disagree with the unwatchable part

it wasn’t a ‘fun’ movie but I dont think a movie has to be fun to be good.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 13, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

One of my current hobbies is betting on completely terrible teams and praying they cover enormous spreads

because there’s no vote of confidence quite like “dear God, just please don’t get blown out”

by seattlebruin on Feb 13, 2012 5:30 PM PST reply actions  

I'm sure we've talked about this before, but

I’m considering leaving AT&T and going to T-Mobile and giving up the iPhone and going with an HTC or Samsung phone.

Does anyone else in the Seattle area have T-Mobile?

by InSpokane on Feb 13, 2012 5:36 PM PST reply actions  

Not anymore.

I have Sprint now, and have for a few years. I’m fine with them, and I like the unlimited data plan. Sorry I can’t help on T-Mobile. Robert?

by royalcurve on Feb 13, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Moi.

I have the pay-as-you-go and a cheap phone though, so I’m not sure how much I can contribute to the discussion. I’d be curious to see the coverage map of the area for the various companies.

by msb on Feb 13, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

HEY! I did exactly this recently. Here's what you do.

Get whatever phone you want yourself. New, used, refurbished, doesnt matter. Then sign up for their $30/mo unlimited data plan. You only get 100 minutes but google voice lets you call over the 4G for free and works like a dream. If dreams worked well, which they don’t really.

This is all assuming you want a data plan… Maybe you don’t, in which case, sorry. But, pretty much every other carrier you’ll pay at least 80/month so even if you pay full price for a brand new phone you end up covering the cost of the phone within the first year.

As far as Tmo in Seattle… I’m in NY but I visited back there recently and had 4G most everywhere, including Stevens Pass, which surprised me.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 14, 2012 6:32 AM PST up reply actions  

As for phones I have a galaxy SII and am extremely happy with it.

Although, I wish I had gotten the international version rather than the Tmo branded one on account of it has a different chipset in it and so it’ll take a good bit longer for it to get Android 4.0 and support for things like CyanogenMod, if you’re into that sort of thing. I looked at the HTC something or other – whatever their SGSII equivalent is – and decided against it because it was a lot heavier and a bit thicker. Another reason to go with Samsung; a common complaint against android phones is poor battery life but Samsung phones have removable batteries so I carry a spare ($15 for two on amazon) and basically never have battery issues..

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 14, 2012 6:38 AM PST up reply actions  

T-Mobile has the most fantastic customer service that I've ever encountered in any sector plus they are local-ish.

They are also are the only post paid carrier that brings over European policies that allow you to pay for what you use which is really nice. I had them from October 2009 to July 2010.

The single biggest problem with them is that their coverage suck diddly ucked when I had them. I’m sure it’s gotten better since then and will only continue to get better with the huge amount of spectrum that ATT was forced to give them as a result of the failed merger. But I’m not talking about not having in coverage in Eastern Washington, I’m talking about going to a sporting event midweek at Safeco and getting nothing or driving around on the Eastside miles away from their corporate headquarters and running into random deadzones.

I’m with Sprint now and it’s by far my favorite of the postpaid carriers. Cheap, Unlimited, Not inherently evil and great coverage. The dirty little secret of Verizon’s massive national footprint is that on Sprint you can roam on it for free. That being said, I would hold off on Sprint till mid year as they are in the process of transitioning their 4G technology from the stop gap one they chose in 2009(wimax) to the same one that everyone else but T-Mobile is using(LTE).

If I had to rank the carriers it would probably go something like this:
Sprint—-T-Mobile—————————————-Verizon————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————Consider going without a smartphone———AT&T.

T-Mobile is great but I honestly wonder what their deal will be in a few years. They are losing money like crazy and their parent company ,Deutsche Telecom, has alluded to the fact that they might just close up shop in America rather than continue with the way things are.

When it comes to phones it all depends on what you are looking for. I’ve been on Android since essentially the start and I’ve recently grown incredibly disappointed by it and will be picking up the iPhone 5 when it comes out. HTC has numerous phones that specialize in different categories (ie pure speed, camera, keyboard, Music Listening, Screen, etc).

You get a Samsung if you still want an iPhone but just want to tell people that you have a droid (zing!). They are just basically high quality iPhone knockoffs running android.

by Robert on Feb 14, 2012 8:15 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I was under the impression that Sprint only allows so much data roaming - cut off is somewhere around 200MB

is that not true anymore, or did you get grandfathered in to a better deal? I looked at them a lot before settling on Tmobile.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 14, 2012 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

It used to be something like 800 mb but now it looks like its 300mb.

This is no doubt anecdotal but the Sprint network is good enough in the Puget Sound Area that since June 1st I’ve used only 25mb roaming total. And I’m a heavy power user that normally averages ~3GB of cellular data a month.

by Robert on Feb 14, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Aha. Well... Anyway, Tmo in NY gives me 10-15Mbps outdoors so no complaints on that part. last month in Seattle it was fine

but I was really only downtown and along the I-5 corridor. Mostly had only 3G on the drive to Stevens but got some 4G signal at the pass.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 14, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no real complaints with AT&T.

I’ve been with them since 2001. There was some weirdness when they were first bought out by Cingular, but I think that happens when you move that many people around. It’s just you’d think after being with a company for more than ten years they’d give you something. Also after looking at the plans AT&T offers new customers I’m getting jacked.

I’ll take a hard look at Sprint, but I have a friend who lives in Kirkland who uses Sprint and his phone only works in one corner of his house. I was thinking T-Mobile, because they are localish. I’ll keep shopping around. Thank you again for taking the time.

by InSpokane on Feb 14, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I had T-Mobile for 2 years and switched to Sprint in December

T-Mobile had excellent coverage. Sprint’s is slightly worse.

Getting a dataplan contract with 2GBs or more was actually much more expensive than Sprint, with whom I got unlimited data. It was like a $30 per month difference for my wife and I. That shocked me, since T-Mobile used to be really reasonable.

At that time they had no decent phones with new contracts for less than $200-ish, which was the real dealbreaker.

Then, I ended with a horrible customer service experience, which I won’t go into detail on, but was eventually partially remedied only after a very angry snail-mail letter to T-Mobile Corporate.

by HititHere on Feb 14, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, I had an additionally horrible experience which was never remedied

when Google forced out an OS upgrade to the MyTouch 3G mere months after I bought it, that crippled my phone. I spent almost 18 months with a full dataplan on a phone whose browser and apps barely functioned, and T-Mobile’s only proposed solution was to sell me a new phone at full price.

by HititHere on Feb 14, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

The thing about cost is no longer true.

Getting an unlimited data plan with Sprint is 90 minimum right now. On Tmo you can go as low as 30 if you have your own phone.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 14, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, Sprint will tell you that they have unlimited data for 70 bucks

but they charge a $10 fee for having a smartphone and other fees so the total comes to just over 90 a month. It’s pretty misleading.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 15, 2012 5:54 AM PST up reply actions  

That $10 fee is for having a 4G capable smartphone, if you get a phone without a 4G radio you don't pay it.

An added benefit to that fee is that you get actual “unlimited data”, not the 2Gb or 5Gb capped unlimited plans that are more common now. Matters more if you tether or stream a lot of Netflix or something. At least that’s how they were saying it a year or two ago

by Craptastic-J on Feb 15, 2012 6:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, I do not have a 4G phone so I don't pay that.

The end result is I’m paying very near the same price for unlimited Sprint data, as I was going to pay for 2 GB T-Mobile data.

by HititHere on Feb 15, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm more concerned by the fact that AT&T gets crippled if you have a half dozen people in close proximity.

Only slightly exaggerated on that number… Good luck trying to use data at a Mariners or Seahawks game… I was even getting issues at Fanfest, and that’s with my iPhone 4S, which has been an improvement in data reliability in other areas.

by Patrick Stites on Feb 15, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Photobugs,

what are some places in/around Seattle that you feel are lesser known spots for good shots? Three for me are

Harbor Island when a cargo ship comes in
Interlaken Park
The nightlife in downtown Ballard

by Matthew on Feb 14, 2012 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

Carkeek Park

Also, that park at the top of 15th Ave E, across from the cemetery, that I can never remember the name of, that looks out over Sand Point.

by pdb on Feb 14, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah

I always considered Interlaken to be the woodsy bit that runs down by the Jewish School and couldn’t remember whether that park was part of it or not.

by pdb on Feb 14, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It might technically be Louisa Boren Park

but the two are adjoining and that’s a dumb name. Interlaken is fun to say

by Matthew on Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Interlaken does sound much better

it’s like a little piece of Switzerland right in the city! Or Germany! Or Belgium?

by pdb on Feb 14, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Belvedere Park.

Maybe it’s not lesser known, but I never see people there and it’s my absolute favorite view of Seattle.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 14, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Seward Park?

I also bet you could get some neat shots from 99 when there’s a lot going on at the Port.

by InSpokane on Feb 14, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I just went down the B-R rabbit hole for two+ hours.

Anyone else have a particular site that they lose track of time on in the non-Wiki/TV Tropes/comics categories?

by JY on Feb 14, 2012 11:28 PM PST reply actions  

I spent two hours on Sunday going through the archives of the New Yorker

I was looking for one thing, and before I knew it I had completely vanished into their dusty old archives. It was awesome.

by pdb on Feb 15, 2012 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

They have put out some fantastic long articles the last year or so

Off the top of my head:
The Paul Haggis Scientology one
The Guillermo del Toro Hobbit one
The Atchafalaya/Mississippi River one (Written in 1987!?! I just read it this year and thought it was new, whoops)

by Craptastic-J on Feb 15, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh...

and this was the result of my trip down the rabbit hole.

by JY on Feb 15, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you just take overall WAR, or only WAR with the team that drafted them?

I’m not trying to make us look worse but… Fister, Morrow and Jones have done the majority of their combined damage with other teams

by seattlebruin on Feb 15, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That was overall WAR.

Separating out WAR with the drafting team is something that I’ve only done with the Mariners. This is looking at the method more than the utilization. Breen’s articles (linked there) seem to skew towards the utilization of the drafting team with overall figures, but I went into each individual draft so we’re not exactly doing the same thing.

by JY on Feb 15, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I spent a lot of time looking over their team as well, when I was preparing to write about this years Astros.

How is it possible that Nate Cornejo posted the only ERA under 5 among people that started a game? How come they couldn’t even find one guy to be the closer, instead spreading it out among 6(?) guys, with the leader having 5?

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 15, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, "WAR with the Mariners" can obviously present misleading values because of trades.

Adam Jones, for instance, didn’t offer much to Seattle except Erik Bedard. So using overall figures is probably better in terms of grading the players themselves.

by thehemogoblin on Feb 15, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

That was my doing.

All the asinine things I was doing purely to amuse myself over the long data grind were directly transcribed. So Brain Wilson is “that guy with the beard” and the Nationals are still the Natinals.

by JY on Feb 15, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Jiminey Cristmas.

Andy Grey, with the SI photo archives on Twitter, is celebrating Mullet Wednesday.

This was his inspiration.

by msb on Feb 15, 2012 9:03 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

I've been checking the highlights for the Knicks game the last week or so

And I haven’t watched NBA highlights in a few years. So yes, for about the next week or so before I stop caring again

by Craptastic-J on Feb 15, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Kinda?

It’s inspired me to watch more Knicks basketball specifically, but my NBA watching hasn’t really increased. I still watch most of the games that are on TV, but rarely go out of my way to watch a game unless it’s a big game featuring the Bulls.

by seattlebruin on Feb 15, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah he has made the Knicks games be slightly worth tuning into

I’m still curious if this is just SSS theater or not.

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by bluemax on Feb 15, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Even in SSS, there can be fascination and amazement.

Maybe he’s a flash in the pan, but perhaps the most interesting flash in the pan in NBA history.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 15, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

It's inspired me less...almost

How could a guy who so clearly had talent not be given a shot until now? Hearing the story was just weird to me. Even his coach didn’t know he had talent.

by HititHere on Feb 15, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Not as much as Blake Griffin did

Jeremy Lin has made me realize just how many Asian friends I have on Facebook though.

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by bluemax on Feb 15, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I've never cared the NBA.

But, the Lin story is pretty darn cool.

by InSpokane on Feb 15, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not saying he's not, but show me what he can do over a larger sample of games.

Anyone can look amazing over a few games, 2010 Mike Sweeney, for example. Over 11 games from May 8th-26th, OPS of 1.378 with 6 home runs and 14 RBI.

Lin hadn’t shown any indication he’s this talented previously, fuels my skepticism. I think it would be amazing though if this anywhere near his legitimate talent level.

by Patrick Stites on Feb 15, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

2010 Mike Sweeney hit a baseball. Just like he had been hitting a baseball his entire life

2012 Jeremy Lin played for the Golden State Warriors, a team which had two dominating on-ball guards as their two best players and run an up-tempo offense.

He also played for the Houston Rockets, who run a deliberate offense, but without a strong center to dominate pick and roll situations. Why is it so surprising that being put into a good situation, he could excel?

As to your other point, Lin dominated the Ivy League for four years and lit up pretty much every high major he played against as well

by seattlebruin on Feb 15, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Or I should clarify that he won state awards, because his team won the state title and he was the best player on the team.

I don’t know if it was because he was Asian American, or because he doesn’t “dazzle”, but Lin wasn’t given any scholarship offers.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 15, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He's a system guy

and for whatever reason, he’s gotten a LOT better over the last year.

He was baaaaaaad in his limited stint with GS, but again, that might have just been him being in a crappy system for him. I look at his improvement like Jose Bautista – it’s not that he’s just suddenly putting up big numbers, but watching him play, you see that the improvements are for real. He’s got a first step that he didn’t really have before, and he’s been aggressive almost to a fault in that offense, which is a must for a D’Antoni PG

by seattlebruin on Feb 15, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, that's really cool.

It takes a real man to play Candyland with a 6-year-old.

by thehemogoblin on Feb 15, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Why did you dislike Justin Bieber the person, to begin with?

Dislike the music, sure. Maybe think he’s a no-talent ass clown (which he isn’t, but that’s neither here nor there on personal opinion) but I’ve never heard a bad thing about “the person”.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 15, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

There were stories of him kinda being a whiny brat at first, after he got the initial large stacks of cash.

But honestly, what do you expect giving a 15/16 year large amounts of money quickly. I have heard some great stories of him like the one ThomasG linked, so it does feel like he’s matured more. Even if he hasn’t, it’s great to hear that he’s doing things like this.

by Patrick Stites on Feb 15, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Natural reaction to any dispensable pop star?

Mostly because, like Patrick Sites mentions below, he came of as kind of a spoiled brat early on.

by ThomasG on Feb 15, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

And that's not to say I personally hated him for any reason.

For the most part I was indifferent to the whole fad but there were/are a lot of people that hate Justin Bieber the person because of what he is and represents.

by ThomasG on Feb 15, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

How can it be that lyrics from his songs don't inspire you?

For instance: And I was like baby, baby, baby, oh
Like baby, baby, baby, no
Like baby, baby, baby, oh
I thought you’d always be mine, mine.

Makes me aspire to heights never achieved…

by ToddK on Feb 15, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Like a constipated Raven

with a broken wing.

"Without freedom of speech I might be in the swamp" B. Dylan

by xmet on Feb 17, 2012 2:10 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The sentiment is nice, and I appreciate that and all

but it’s not like Bieber himself did anything but show up.

Again, he didn’t have to* and it’s an awesome thing for him to do, but I would be surprised if Justin Bieber himself reached out to this particular girl and made everything happen. It’s easy to look awesome when you have people working for you to make it happen.

  • He may very well have had to do it.

by d0nkey on Feb 15, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I’ve been wanting to get a pet chameleon for ages, has anyone had one? Are they fairly low-maintenance?

by Eyeball Kid on Feb 16, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

My wife and I had a couple varieties of geckos for three or four years.

I found them to be low maintenance relative to a dog or cat. We kept the geckos in a 10 or 20 gallon aquarium, depending on the size of the gecko and how many were in each. You only need to feed them a couple times a week, keep their water bowl filled and clean, and clean their aquarium.

I had a few issues with them. I found the cleaning to be difficult because the aquariums had to be rinsed out in the shower or outside with a hose because they never fit in the sink. If you don’t completely take out all the bedding (sand or bark chips) and replace it weekly, the tank gets very stinky, like a dirty cat box in a closet with little to no ventilation. I never broke an aquarium, but I felt like I was always about to drop a slippery glass box every time I cleaned them.

The geckos I had ate crickets. If the geckos didn’t eat all the crickets, the crickets would chirp. The glass aquarium made the chirp echo. The thing about crickets is they like to chirp all night and I liked to sleep at night. It isn’t very fun to try and find a cricket in a small aquarium in the middle of the night, hoping it doesn’t jump out of the aquarium while you try and find it, catch it, and get rid of it. Crickets are also very good at hiding when they think something is trying to catch and eat it.

Lizards aren’t like pets in the same manner as a dog or cat. Lizards tend to not like people, so they try and bite you when you pick them up. The dirt and salt in your hands can really harm their skin. I found them to be more like high maintenance house plants than pets.

by Jed MC on Feb 17, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm also not a big fan of exotic animals and would never buy a lizard again.

Not sure if it crosses the LL no politics zone, but I think it’s an necessary component when deciding whether or not to own that kind of animal.

by Jed MC on Feb 17, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

My house isn't really big enough for a 'traditional' pet

Although now that I’m working 12 hour shifts I suppose I can’t give due attention to any pets :( Thanks for the info though, I think this wins the argument for the sensible side of me.

by Eyeball Kid on Feb 18, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you watch any shows that you think are bad?

I just finished season three of Sons of Anarchy. I thought it was pretty good in the first season, but the more I watched it, the more I started to feel like it was a terrible show. Like, really bad. They jumped the shark every episode in season three, if that’s even possible. But I’ll keep watching it because of how bad it is.

I think Dexter gets even worse and cornier by each passing episode and they really got ridiculous last season with Deb. But I won’t stop watching.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 16, 2012 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

When it was on, Heroes.

Season 1 was awesome. And then it all just fell apart.

by Cascadian Man on Feb 16, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Greek.

I’m just going to leave this here and go watch like 75 hours of Breaking Bad.

by the other side on Feb 16, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I watched the whole fucking series of Lost.

And thought it was terrible the entire time.

by BigR on Feb 16, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I gave up on Dexter in season five.

That was the point at which I concluded that dramatic happenings were mere gimmicks and that it was nearly impossible to believe that anything could change.

I was planning on continuing with Walking Dead but the first half of the season was such a pointless tease that I don’t feel that I can even like it for its badness anymore.

by JY on Feb 16, 2012 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been a completionist on many a show that I didn't like towards the end.

I know it’s practically heresy to say so, but I was reeeeeeally frustrated with BSG towards the end and I still watched practically the whole thing.

Anyway, back to Dexter, I just felt like post-season 4 was a real opportunity to go places with the show and instead they spent a full season screwing the pooch. It confirmed to me that, despite my original thoughts to the contrary, there wasn’t going to be an overarching arc to the show, and that they would just drag it out as far as they could.

by JY on Feb 17, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

The most hilarious part is that fans were upset when the renewed for two more seasons.

And they won’t flat out say that they’ll finish it by then either. JUST END IT NOW! Have the ultimate climax and kill it with fire.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 17, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

The Walking Dead is so terrible now

Watching the first season again, it wasn’t good either, but now that it’s getting really high ratings they’ve basically brought what story there was to a screeching halt to try to drag it out over many seasons. And it doesn’t work at all, now it’s just people bitching about something that happened 4 episodes ago that you don’t care about. I fucking hate the characters so much now because of this. All of them.

by OlSalty on Feb 17, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know how people keep talking about it as though it's good.

The first season was a guilty pleasure, I’ll admit, but it started to lose me at the beginning of the second season, which I can most accurately describe with a scene so OMG SPOILERS DON’T LOOK AHEAD IF YOU CARE AND HAVEN’T SEEN IT.

  • First season, they’re trying to escape Atlanta and come up with the bright idea of wearing plastic lab coats and then coating themselves with gore. The whole time there’s a lot of discussion of “we don’t know how this spreads so we need to be careful not to get it in contact with our skin,” and so everyone was wearing plastic face shields etc.
  • Second season, first episode, zombie breaks into RV, blonde chick retaliates with a screwdriver, blood spatters everywhere, all over her face, she’s screaming, mouth wide open, blood spatters, nothing happens. T-Dog or whatever his name cuts himself, he gets buried under zombie corpses, he’s in direct contact with nasty things while nursing an open wound, he gets a fever, nothing happens.

It’s a soap opera punctuated with gore now.

by JY on Feb 17, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

We all wanted top-notch quality zombie fare. So perhaps we gave AMC too much credit for too long.

It’s another show that I just sort of watch because I want to know what happens next, or talk about at the water cooler, but it’s not very good. Terribly acted. Making dumb decisions that really piss me off, like when she shot what’s his face from Boondock Saints.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 17, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if its AMC's fault

the source material for Walking Dead is so bad.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Feb 20, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Awwwww. I totally disagree.

Comics are a different medium, so it may not translate well. I enjoy the constant dread of Kirkman’s work, even though the characters are forgettable.

by yuniform on Feb 20, 2012 2:40 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I've never actually read the comics but I read a brief synopsis when I decided to stop watching just to get some resolution

And I was surprised to find that the show has actually stuck to the course of events in the comics pretty well. And it’s been bad. It seems like the character interaction was bad in the comics too. So yeah maybe the source material is part of the problem, but I think the show is also seriously dragging out things that weren’t major plot points in a dumb effort to create drama and lengthen the show and that’s making it much worse by killing what should be a suspenseful atmosphere.

It sounds like in the comics there was a lot more character turnover, too. That would’ve been nice considering how intolerable the characters are.

by OlSalty on Feb 20, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Off you haven't read it, you shouldn't knock it.

I’be only seen a couple episodes of the show, and don’t have huge opinions about it. But yeah, there’s lots of character turnover and few interesting people besides Rick.

by yuniform on Feb 20, 2012 3:51 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I'm not knocking it, I'm sure there's something appealing about it that's not coming through in the show

It’s just from reading the summary you can tell there isn’t a whole lot of character development going on there either.

by OlSalty on Feb 20, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey now, Kurt Busiek is good stuff.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 20, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm constantly amazed how fast they move the show

So many times I’ve thought a typical show would have tried to stretch four episodes or even an entire season out of something B.B. will blow up in one

by Kermit. on Feb 17, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Except sometimes it goes super slow.

I’m specifically thinking with how new episodes often start immediately after the previous episode. Also, Crazy 8 was around a long time.

by yuniform on Feb 17, 2012 1:00 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Just in case anyone thought the Emmys and Golden Globes might be legitimate...

How has Breaking Bad never won best Drama? I’m trying to figure out if a scheduling difference caused it not to be nominated in 2011, but Dexter and The Good Wife were? The best drama show of the last 5 years and two nominations for best drama by the Emmys and ZERO by The Golden Globes. 2009 Emmy nominees: Mad Men, Big Love, Breaking Bad, Damages, Dexter, HOUSE, and LOST. I’ll give you Mad Men. Admittedly I dont watch Damages. But the others? On the same level as BB?

Golden Globes this year: Homeland (winner), Boardwalk Empire, Boss, Game of Thrones, and American Horror Story. ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME THAT THOSE ARE BETTER THAN LAST SEASON OF BREAKING BAD?! WHO HAS EVER SEEN BOSS?

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 17, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Breaking Bad and The Wire.

Two shows that were too good to be recognized.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 17, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

drugs are bad, mmmmmkay?

I just think that any show that revolves around the production, buying, or selling of drugs will have a really hard time cracking the mainstream awards-show-nominators, societal pressure being the stupid thing it is.

by pdb on Feb 17, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I recently finished the whole series of The Wire. So good.

I tried to be a little skeptical going in since I heard so many good things about it, but wow, people were right. Just so insanely well written.

by bomdal on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I will say that Homeland is a damn good show

and American Horror Story was a very, very entertaining trainwreck. It probably shouldn’t have been nominated for best drama, but I get the Homeland nom and win.

by pdb on Feb 17, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I really liked Homeland too.

I like AHS, but it was such a crazy mess that I was just surprised by it’s nom. Not trying to take away from any shows, but the exclusion of the best show is interesting.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 17, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Awards are stupid and mean nothing

Awards have always been stupid and mean nothing. At this point complaining about it is like complaining about Derek Jeter winning a gold glove.

by WhyGodWhy on Feb 18, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn't really care for season 3 of Sons, all the Ireland stuff was not my cup of tea.

Season 4 is kinda shark jumpy too, but it does have Danny Trejo, which is neat. I’m looking forward to seeing what Kurt Sutter has in store now that a certain plot point that has been brewing for awhile is seemingly tied up. I won’t say much more, so as not to spoil.

by Patrick Stites on Feb 17, 2012 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I watched a lot of House. And I know people love House, but

The first season was good. Then by the 2nd season, I started to realize how utterly unimaginative it was every episode…. Part 1, some guy/girl is sick! Part 2, nobody figures out why. Part 3, House figures out why! Part 4, patient does/does not survive. Repeat during every episode.

After a few seasons in, they started making it very soap opera-ey so it started to suck me in more. But the actual patient-doctor stuff was so predictable.

by HititHere on Feb 17, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I actually hated it as it got more soap operay

but my GF at the time loved it. I pretty much stopped watching the show after we broke up.

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by bluemax on Feb 20, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Mariners make the Onion again

After some Knicks jokes regarding Jeremy Lin. None of the jokes are especially Mariner-centric, unfortunately.

by yuniform on Feb 16, 2012 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

Is it just me or has online package tracking really degraded the lives of OCD people?

I literally cannot stop checking USPS and UPS’ websites hoping to see my package delivered

by seattlebruin on Feb 16, 2012 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

Text Alerts!

Also, it rankles me more to have a shipper that prints the label right away, but doesn’t send for a while.

I’ve been waiting on a car part that FedEx said was going to be delivered today but the guy hasn’t even sent yet.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 16, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Oooooh.

@StoneLarry Got my first glimpse of the new-look Franklin Gutierrez this morning. Definitely has put on a lot of muscle, looks very fit.

by msb on Feb 17, 2012 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

Does anyone have a favorite cold remedy?

Because I feel like shit and would not like to continue feeling like shit if at all possible.

by Cascadian Man on Feb 17, 2012 9:22 AM PST reply actions  

Neti Pot usually helps me clean out in there, and clears out any pressure in the process.

Either that or steaming myself in the shower for a good long time.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 17, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

So the oft-used Long Island neighbors' hot tub is not the best option?

WHY DIDN’T ANYONE TELL ME

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 17, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Your sinuses are now pregnant.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 17, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

The end result of this will still be more attractive than either of their kids.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 17, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I hate taking medicine, so if it's not so severe that I can't ride it out I won't.

Instead I drink lots of tea; licorice or peppermint are good, as are those homeopathic “cold season” teas; homeopathy is total hokum as an approach to medicine, but the herbs they use in those teas can in fact help clear out your sinuses/numb sore throats/etc.

I also drink water constantly (twice as much if not more than I would on a normal day) and make sure to eat even though I am almost never hungry. I also find that I feel much better if I don’t just lay around all day; I try to go for walks and stay moderately active because a lot of what sucks about having a cold is the lethargy and getting off my ass helps me shake that off. I know people for whom the complete opposite is true though, so YMMV.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 17, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Licorice tea sounds like the best thing in the world rigt now

But there is no way I am making my way through rainy Portland with a head cold to get some. I’ll stick to the water today.

by Cascadian Man on Feb 17, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Any tea is good, really.

Though non/lightly caffeinated is probably better.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 17, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Dayquil if you have to go to work

sleep if you can stay at home. Nothing will help you recover as quickly as just staying in bed and sleeping a lot.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 17, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I had a really bad cold over the fall that spanned about a month.

A lady at the bus stop recommended taking a typical mug, coating the bottom with Tabasco, adding a tablespoon of raw honey, then maybe fill it a fifth to a quarter full with apple cider vinegar and fill the rest with boiling water. By her reasoning, the capsaicin in the Tabasco opens up the nasal passages a bit, and the vinegar and raw honey both had antimicrobial/antiviral properties. I spent a while chugging that and believe that you probably have to additionally drink a glass of water now and then since it was making me feel dehydrated. At any rate, if that doesn’t fix you, it will make you feel like more of a man.

by JY on Feb 17, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Water lots and lots of water.

When I start to feel like crap I down 2 gallons of water, drink a shit load of orange juice, eat a lot chicken soup, and drink six to seven cups of Gypsy cold care tea. I also take 5 Ibuprofen and dose up on Alka-Seltzer Plus, cold and sinus.

by InSpokane on Feb 17, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, please let us see this.

@ChrisEgan5: Ichiro wearing high-tops, green socks n jeans similiar to the ones my 11 year old daughter wears , sorry no pics from parking lot

by msb on Feb 17, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Booo

I need pictures!

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by bluemax on Feb 20, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy shit

I want to make all of these just for the fun of figuring out the correct amounts of each ingredient.

by Cascadian Man on Feb 17, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I had to traverse the pass for a wedding on Saturday afternoon

I was pretty freaked out when it was closed for avalanche control in the morning, but it reopened and we made it fine crossing about 10 am.

It was a pretty scary drive though. The plowers had done their best but there were several times lanes suddenly ended due to huge piles of snow sitting in the road. Lots of cars spun out.

by HititHere on Feb 20, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Screw that pass.

I drive over passes in Montana multiple times a week, and none of that compare to the crap you guys have to deal with. I have a friend that commutes from the U-District to Cle Elum a couple months every winter and it blows my mind.

by BigR on Feb 20, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The Simpsons 500th episode is coming up.

Is there any other show that you can think of that could stay in a prime time slot for this long? There aren’t many that could, and here are 244 FOX shows that have come and gone since the first Simpsons episode.

by seattle_since_81 on Feb 18, 2012 10:39 PM PST reply actions  

M.A.N.T.I.S.!!!

Wonderfalls! I still kind of liked Drive.

speaking of Giancarlo Esposito … I tried to watch Bakersfield PD (I mean, look at that cast) but just couldn’t.

(By the way, ScreenJunkies, you remove the indefinite article when alphabetizing)

by msb on Feb 19, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Does South Park count?

Because I think it has a real chance. Everything indicates Stone and Parker still love doing it.

by BigR on Feb 19, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Andy Richter Controls the Universe was good times.

I kinda liked Keen Eddie, but I think most of that was the fact the female lead was scorching hot with a english accent.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 19, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Firefly, Dark Angel, John Doe.

Christ Fox was good at cancelling good sci-fi dramas in the early 2000’s.

by harkening on Feb 19, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I only end up watching a few episodes a season, but the ones I do catch just seem sooo bad compared to what I watched 15+ years ago.

I watched the Mythbusters episode, and it was alright, but it didn’t compel me to continue watching more episodes.

by Patrick Stites on Feb 20, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Last night I read something that put it into good perspective.

The Simpsons is basically two shows. At the height of it’s popularity, it was maybe the best sitcom of all-time and ran for 10 years or so (longer than most shows) and then was replaced by The Simpsons v2.0. A show that’s not very good, but not terrible. I just don’t compare the two because it’s pretty clear how much better it was in the 90s than it is now. There is no comparison and judged by itself, Simpsons 2.0 is a bland, but sometimes funny sitcom. There’s just nowhere they can go from what they did when they were the best that ever did it.

follow @casetines

by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 20, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Great point.

If you destroy your expectations, it’s good. Also, rewatching old, great episodes is good.

by yuniform on Feb 20, 2012 3:52 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

See, I don't even agree with the first part there.

Even taking away my expectations from the original Simpsons I don’t find the new episodes very funny overall. Sure they have parts that make me laugh, but usually those jokes are references to old Simpsons episodes anyway. They are just trying to pack too much content into 22 minutes of show.

Old Simpsons are still hillarious.

by d0nkey on Feb 20, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but I'm not saying that the 2nd half of it's run is good.

It’s still on part with any other mediocre sitcom on the air, but gets to stick around for as long as it wants because it’s The Simpsons and is worth countless dollars to FOX even when it’s bad. I still think there are some funny moments and even the 500th episode was decent. It’s amazing to me that after 500 episodes, they can make me chuckle sometimes.

I don’t watch it very often, but it’s not terrible when I watch it. This is of course a matter of opinion to the viewer.

follow @casetines

by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 20, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

That's probably true.

There’s probably enough decent episodes still being put out, but then they just drop some awful ones that taint it for me. About the best thing I can remember that they’ve done recently, was the Banksy opening. Which was great, but it was Banksy giving it direction….

Objectively, it’s probably still alright. Jonah Keri still seems to enjoy the series, and he seems like a hardcore Simpsons fan.

by Patrick Stites on Feb 20, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't watch it very often, I'll admit.

I would say I watch an episode or two a month, when I see them on Hulu.

The episodes today are just trying too hard to be funny. They force jokes, and try to rely on their celebrity voice over to carry them. I admit I do laugh from time to time, but overall the episodes leave me feeling like I should’ve been watching something else.

by d0nkey on Feb 20, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

"Joyce Gabriel didn't know it was a bad idea to be in the Pioneer Square area late at night"

If we are talking about fine television, I am currently watching The night strangler, the second of the tv movies that led to the Kolchak tv series

by msb on Feb 19, 2012 9:20 AM PST reply actions  

So, Band of Brothers.

man, there are a lot of English guys in this show.

by msb on Feb 20, 2012 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

Somehow I have never seen it from the start, just bits of the later episodes.

ep. 6 has the first really weak American accent, an Irishman who just can’t hide his roots.

by msb on Feb 20, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

So I just got a new computer at work

A new MBP to be exact. Anyone have any recommendations on apps or whatever I need to stay productive or help my productivity? I’ll likely be spending most of my time just looking at X-Code but I’m open to suggestions.

Mind you this isn’t my first mac, but my home mac is on 10.5 and here I have 10.7 so I’m sure there’s a few things I’ve missed out on.

Also, hey I’m making iPhone games now! Bet you guys didn’t see that one coming!

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Feb 20, 2012 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

Here are my most used work apps:

AntiRSI 2 – Reminders to take short breaks from typing every x minutes and longer breaks every y minutes.
Songbird – Best music player I’ve found with last.fm and other plug-in support
Evernote – Take notes and have them appear on all your devices
Adium – Chat manager
Dropbox – File manager across all devices

Mariners fan in SF :: @Eric_Dykstra

by lailaihei on Feb 20, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Dropbox has saved my ass on so many different occasions. I can't recomment it enough.

Practically all of my school work is backed up on it as well as my computer and external hard drives .

by Cascadian Man on Feb 20, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks!

I’m still not super big on iPhone games, but the chance to work with some really cool people in a different environment than what I was doing before really appealed to me.

That and I don’t like being unemployed.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Feb 20, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

So if you made a long-term New Year's resolution, how's it going?

I’ve lost 14 lb! Still nowhere near close to where I want to be but I’m doing the right things and losing a pound or so a week at this point, so as long as I keep that up I’ll get to my goal by the end of the year – and if I keep going at that rate post-2012, in just under four years I’ll weigh approximately four pounds!

by pdb on Feb 21, 2012 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

I'm really excited about it

but I don’t want to get into the mindset of “I’m done losing weight” so I’m choosing to ignore the cumulative total lost for the most part, at least until summer when I’ll be much closer to the end goal, but I was pretty stoked when I found that out yesterday.

by pdb on Feb 21, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm much more focused on "how I feel" more than anything else.

If you’re mindful of your diet and exercise, that’s all that matters. Good to hear that you’re making positive progress in 2012.

follow @casetines

by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 21, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm still treading water on that whole get rid of that last ten pounds thing.

well, not literally.

I’d probably have done it if I’d been treading water all this time.

by msb on Feb 21, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I have written -13 words on my book.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 21, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Grats!

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Feb 21, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

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