Drayer Reports that Mariners Sign Shawn Camp
Twitter link here. Shannon states that it is a Major League deal which means that another 40-man roster spot will have to be opened up. It's weird because so far only Shannon has tweeted it. Usually when there's a transaction, my twitter stream has identical tweets from Shannon, Larry Stone and Greg Johns, followed by Rotoworld linking to those three and then MLBTradeRumors. So far, nothing but Shannon. I hope Larry and Greg aren't dead. Don't be dead, guys.
[11:48 UPDATE] Both Greg Johns and Larry Stone tweet that the Mariners have DFA'd Chris Gimenez and Mike Wilson to make room for Hong-Chih Kuo and Camp. Whew! Still alive.
Shawn Camp is a mid-30s reliever who's been with the Blue Jays for the past four seasons and unfortunately does nothing to add to the Mariners quota of ʃɔn given names. The righty throws a high-80s sinker, a low-80s change and a high-70s slider and succeeds probably how you'd expect, through a combination of ground balls and throwing strikes.
Up until last season, he'd been a quietly effectively bullpen arm. Over the last half-dozen years, Camp's xFIP has stayed in the 3.65-4.00 range, which is fine enough. He's not going to be a transformational figure for the bullpen, but building up depth there is not a bad thing and Camp is better than the pile-type additions we've become used to seeing.
It's not all an adequate plate of noodles though. Since Camp's deal is that he needs to throw strikes, 2011 is a bit worrisome as Camp threw far fewer pitches in the strike zone last year than ever before. Now that didn't translate to a significantly higher walk rate and zone% by itself is not enough to worry about, but it is pause-worthy. Camp also saw his strikeout rate dip from below average (~17%) toward dangerously low (11%) territory which is worth even more pauses. Of course, all the normal warnings about a single year of relief pitching applies so don't freak out and go all Harold Pinter on us, but his fastball speed did dip a little so perhaps it's a harbinger of disappointment to come.
Camp is a bit of a side-tosser so he comes equipped with the enhanced platoon splits module that you really didn't want anyway but can be useful in some circumstances. In a certain light, Shawn Camp is the chiral George Sherrill. So hooray for probably many more mid-inning pitching changes this upcoming season. Those are fun, right? Everybody likes those!
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Would a chiral Chone Figgins bat facing the backstop?
by lemonverbena on Feb 6, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Oops. Just saw that Matthew updated the story with this info.
I’m going to go do other redundant things.
ʃɔn
With the northwest accent, he’d be the only one shawn with an ‘ɔ’ rather than an ‘ɑ’!
New guy has a distinct name!
I love phonetics!
The former is the vowel in ‘or’ and the latter is the vowel in ‘are.’ It’s just that in many American accents the ‘ɔ’ is never used unless preceding an ‘r’. But they are definitely two different vowels.
There is a difference between the two.
Northwesterners don’t distinguish the two.
So if we lose Mike Wilson, does that mean we lose JY?
I can’t picture one without the other anymore.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 6, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Will be a lot of action in July...
Camp, Kuo, Sherrill, League, Millwood, Iwakuma, Guillen, Olivo, Vargas and maybe even Figgins are likely candidates to be traded to a contender
They are all players who could potentially be traded to a contender.
They are not all equally likely.
League, Kelley, Wilhelmsen, Camp, Sherrill, Kuo, Delabar/Ruffin?
Could be a pretty decent bullpen on the whole. Especially if they limit Camp against lefties and Sherrill against righties.
Remember that Twilight Zone episode with Kevin Towers?
"you ain't never been no virgin kid you were f@$%ed from the start"
by BW Kropotkin on Feb 6, 2012 12:06 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I want to know which one specifically caused the DFA of Mike Wilson so I can hate him openly.
...and now I'm here
Mike Wilson is destined for the Astros, the only team that would give a damn about him.
"you ain't never been no virgin kid you were f@$%ed from the start"
by BW Kropotkin on Feb 6, 2012 12:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Camp was a type B FA.
No arbitration offered so no compensation but good grief.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 6, 2012 12:25 PM PST reply actions
Even though nobody has told him yet...
It looks like he already knows.
by Zewerr on Feb 6, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Poor Mike Wilson :(
I wanted him to be awesome.
More specialists!
The main problem with Mariner games the past few years is they just haven’t been long enough.
At least Gimenez goes away, I guess.
This is a weird bullpen. I completely forgot the team signed Sherrill.
We don't need a 4th catcher
And he wasn’t going to make the team over Olivo, Jaso, or Montero.
If you want someone who offers flexibility, you’d rather someone who could play 3B and OF instead of C and OF.
This doesn't leave us much room for a long reliever- I guess Wilhelmsen and Kelley are going to sort of have to do it?
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
I guess it's a matter of whether you want endurance or skills
If Ruffin, Delabar, Beavan, and Furbush are in competition for that lost spot there’s no question who the two better pitchers in that group are, but it’s not the two that can pitch the most innings.
I don’t know that you want to stall Beavan’s development by making him throwing 3 inning day out of the bullpen once a week.
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Furbush makes a lot of sense since he'd be a second lefty and capable of soaking up innings.
I’d prefer him starting in Tacoma though and I guess it’d mean Ruffin is in Tacoma’s pen. The Mariners have cramped up the reliever pile now, barring a trade
I hate IPA
but it was the only way to make that joke in a text medium
Crowded
I’d personally like to see Ruffin in the majors this year, but it’s not like he’s a superstar in the making or anything. Outside of a 3b, or a really good C, I guess the M’s are done for now. Stick a fork in em.
I also appreciate the fact that Luetge has gotten more useless as time has gone on without even throwing a single pitch.
What I really, non-sarcastically appreciate though, is Jeff’s use of the word “chiral”.
by JY on Feb 6, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck.
I really should have known that “chiral” was more of a Matthew word.
by JY on Feb 6, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Something food-related.
I think waffle is actually a pretty good approximation.
by JY on Feb 6, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
It's not like I have a degree in chemistry
by Jeff Sullivan on Feb 6, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, I typed up a reply to that effect, then figured I was just drawing attention to myself.
I was introduced to the term in the context of chemistry at least.
by JY on Feb 6, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe?
Their blood is used as the reference vial for enantiosis.
That remains one of the most infuriating minor moves I've seen with this team.
...and now I'm here
I call my anti-depressants "meh relievers"
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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
No lowbrow Reign Man jokes?
or Shawn Camp being a charity run by Figgins or Kelley?
It's Shawn Camp....
Not Shawn Kemp. I got too excited for the Sonics after all of the news that came out the past few days.
Roar! I'm a Dog!
by qwertyiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm on Feb 6, 2012 7:40 PM PST reply actions

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