Today It's Officially Spring
By and large, I think fans tend to be pretty objective about their teams during the offseason. Fans of pretty good teams usually know that they're fans of pretty good teams, and fans of less pretty good teams usually know that they're fans of less pretty good teams. People are realistic, perhaps because, during the offseason, there is the opportunity for things to change. Situations change as players change teams.
But after the offseason, I think there comes a point every spring where just about every fan, no matter who he or she roots for, thinks "well, maybe". There'll come a point at which A's fans think things could break right. There'll come a point at which Astros fans think things could break right. That objectivity never quite goes away completely, but come spring, fans are more aware of potential upsides. This is necessary, by the way. This belief, and sometimes this delusion that our teams can compete helps to amp us all up for what's a six-month slog even at the best of times.
Between objectivity and daydreaming, there is a midpoint. At this midpoint, the switch is flicked. Now, here, I'm only going to talk for myself, because I don't know what's going on inside all of your heads. But I think today I reached my midpoint. Today, the Mariners are playing the Mariners again, for the second time in three days. The intrasquad began somewhere around 11:45. Not long after that, the following tweet showed up on my screen:
Guti takes Felix deep
— Shannon Drayer (@shannondrayer) February 26, 2012
The Mariners are playing an intrasquad game today, and we don't really care that much about what goes on in an intrasquad game. But in this particular intrasquad game, Franklin Gutierrez hit a home run off of Felix Hernandez.
There are so many reasons why this is basically irrelevant. Felix is just getting stretched out, and he's hardly giving it his all. Who knows what pitch he threw or where he threw it. Maybe he was just working on something. Maybe he was just messing around. The ball flies pretty well in Arizona. The park dimensions aren't huge. This is an intrasquad game in Peoria. You don't get excited about home runs hit in these circumstances.
But earlier today, in a game situation, a pitch left Felix Hernandez's hand, and Franklin Gutierrez clobbered it over a wall. Last season, Franklin Gutierrez hit one home run, and last spring, Franklin Gutierrez hit zero home runs. I don't know if Guti might've hit one in an intrasquad game, but he didn't hit any in Cactus League action. They record those stats and not intrasquad stats because Cactus League stats are vitally important.
The Rangers and Angels are incredibly strong. The Mariners, meanwhile, are coming off a bad season, and they didn't exactly stock up on the market. I haven't even tried to pretend that the Mariners might stand a fighting chance. But I saw this tweet, and it was after reading this specific tweet that I felt myself going a little nuts. If Gutierrez bounces back to 2009 form, he's a legitimate star. Felix is already there, and there's talent in the bullpen, and Dustin Ackley is great, and Jesus Montero could be great, and Justin Smoak could be really good, and what if the Rangers or Angels suffer through injury problems? What if things blow up for them the way things blew up for the Mariners in 2010?
It's all insane, but what's really insane is the fact that I can convince myself that it's not. I think the chief side effect of spring training is that we all go insane in a few ways - we go insane waiting for spring training to be over, and we go insane believing that our teams could actually do something. Some teams will and most teams won't, and it's the uncertainty that props the doors open.
Nobody asked me about the Mariners yesterday. If somebody had asked me if I thought the Mariners could make the playoffs, I would've laughed and said "well I mean I guess they could." If somebody asked me now if I thought the Mariners could make the playoffs, my answer would be different. I still know in my soul that, no, no, it isn't going to happen, it's probably never going to happen, these are the Mariners, that's crazy talk, but my faith cortex has been activated after a winter hibernation. Because Franklin Gutierrez is back, see. And there's a lot of talent on this team, and when you put all that talent together...
In an entirely meaningless game, Franklin Gutierrez faced Felix Hernandez and hit what feels like a profoundly meaningful home run. Maybe you're not the same as me, and maybe you're not crazy just yet, but it's going to happen eventually. There's no use trying to fight it off. At some point soon, if not already, you're going to feel good about this baseball team.
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Paging LL commenter Pangaea, commenter Pangaea, white courtesy phone please
Jeff’s post today would appear to be what you were asking for yesterday.
by Chris_FB on Feb 26, 2012 2:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yes, thank you for the glimmer of hope
I think it is not too far fetched that this team has a break out year. Yes, of course the odds are against it, but this young team has a huge potential upside.
This home run also feels more significant because Guti looks jacked.
… and Montero seems to like those muscles, too.
I can almost see that conversation:
Guti: “Hold me back, Jesus, hold me back!”
Montero: “… dude, nice ‘cepts. You been workin’ out?”
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I think I felt that a little bit after this tweet.
Felix happy to see Guti healthy but after the home run, “He got me good. Now he is going to talk a lot for the whole season.” #mariners
by ThundaPC on Feb 26, 2012 2:15 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
My inner hope started to stir into existence after Figgins kept walking time and time again, of all things.
Then the Guti dinger put me over the top.
Walks are great...
But I’d really like Figgins to show that he can hit to get on base. Then again, didn’t he have a batting average over .400 last spring? (BA is not a great measurement, I know).
by ShipstadPilot11 on Feb 26, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
I was convinced that this had to be BS until I looked it up...
Figgins last spring: .373/.448/.490
Goddamnit.
by JY on Feb 26, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I don't care how Figgins gets on base, he just needs to get on base in general.
Although he did have an RBI single today, so there is that.
by Cascadian Man on Feb 26, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
If he can't hit, won't he draw fewer walks as pitchers begin to pound the zone, knowing he won't hurt them?
Or would that not happen?
by ShipstadPilot11 on Feb 26, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
This implies that pitchers can easily just throw strikes when they want
And that pounding the middle of the zone doesn’t make it easier to make good contact as a hitter.
by twelveoutof10 on Feb 26, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
I would think so.
But it could also help his hitting, if they do that.
"Without freedom of speech I might be in the swamp" B. Dylan
Vinnie's was long one, apparently.
I really hope he finds a position to stick at.
by Cascadian Man on Feb 26, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Vinnie at third base is bad enough...
… but Vinnie at third base in the majors when he’s not nearly ready? Yikes.
I understand the enthusiasm, but it needs to be tempered. Plus, he’s a horrible third baseman, so there’s always that too.
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I already had a very strong hunch that Guti is going to have a career year.
This does not help me be more rational about that.
Also this is nice:
Chone Figgins worked a 5-pitch walk to open the frame. With Figgins running on the play, Dustin Ackley executed a perfect hit-and-run with a sharp single to center field to move Figgins to 3rd base. Ichiro followed with a run-scoring single to right field, scoring Figgins and moving Ackley to 3rd. Justin Smoak followed with another run-scoring single
If Montero homered after Smoak...
Then the front office would be like… Booyah beeeeaaatches! told ya so.
Ask Carlos Peguero
Or Miguel Olivo. Or Trayvon Robinson. Or Casper Wells. Etc.
by twelveoutof10 on Feb 26, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Great, now Wedge is going to be fanatical about hit-n-runs with Ackley
every time Figgins in on base. Which means Ackley starts swinging at more crap.
That's pretty much their job description.
Guy who gets fired when the season goes down the crapper.
by quacker27 on Feb 26, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
All of this happiness is great except Brendan Ryan is day-to-day.
He fouled a ball off of his left instep and left the game with a contusion.
Not very.
Apparently he didn’t throw yesterday.
by ThirteenOfTwo on Feb 26, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Threw at 100 Ft for 10 minutes
with training staff today. Link
"Without freedom of speech I might be in the swamp" B. Dylan
Bruised foot + herniate disc + sore shoulder
The different reports out there make it sound like he’s falling apart all over the place.
Except the back and shoulder thing aren't new.
And getting a bruise from fouling a ball off yourself isn’t exactly worrisome
Didn't Baron do the same thing off Felix last spring?
Think I’ll contain my excitement.
Baron is not bringing his sexy back like Gutz.
How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?
Au contraire.
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Ryan on facing Felix-I don’t know what that last pitch was because it defied…things. He said it was a 4 seamer but it went straight down
by JY on Feb 26, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
I opened up my LL browser, and the first thing I saw was the Drayer announcement
I smiled a rather large smile. Yup, baseball is almost back.
I've got this spreadsheet of Mariners projections
On the upside tab I see the how this team could win 90 games if everything goes right.
Of course, I also have a downside tab which just says: “There is no floor”.
FanGraphs fan projections!
They predict the Mariners position players producing 27.7 WAR. The FanGraphs fan projections are, of course, outrageously optimistic and based on a collection of guesses, but I find them a fine excuse to fantasize about a 90-win season.
by Bullpen Bully on Feb 26, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Dave on Tango's blog said to take fan projections and multiply by .77 to line it up with realistic league WAR.
That would make the Mariners realistic fan projected position players worth 21.3 WAR. Still seems too optimistic to me.
For me, hope is an M's team that could maybe hover around .500 and stay within 7 games into July/August
Then if the Angels and Rangers stumble it could be interesting. Not “we might make the playoffs!” interesting, just interesting that we have a competitive team. That would be enough at this point, or at least something.
I'm rooting:
For the new wild card format. I mean, what if…?
"There is no sports event like Opening Day of baseball, the sense of beating back the forces of darkness and the National Football League."
—George Vecsey
by extavernmouse on Feb 26, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see how we don't make the playoffs, what with Josh Hamilton and Albert Pujols both being done.
Still, call me a pessimist if you want, but I don’t think we can win the World Series in a sweep. It’s going to take at least 5 games.
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on Feb 26, 2012 3:33 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
So the tweet was "Guti takes Felix deep"
…is it just too easy? It’s too easy, isn’t it? I mean, I would assume at least one person would bite on that. I realize it’s totally a gimme, but still.
by JLC on Feb 26, 2012 4:50 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I thought about saying something,
but it just isn’t the same since they traded Dougie away. (Sniff.)
by Bart's Evil Twin on Feb 26, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
A few home runs and walks over two inter-squad Spring Training games,
and the Mariners’ fan base is ready for the World Series.
Talk about anorexic for a winning team….
Fear of getting fat for a winning team?
Always be ready to win, or loss is guaranteed.
"Without freedom of speech I might be in the swamp" B. Dylan
Isn't anorexia intentionally starving oneself? Because of the fear of weight gain or something?
I’m not sure it’s the right term for this situation…
by The Awesomest on Feb 26, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like you meant Felix...
but Felix Fermin hasn’t played for the Mariners since the mid-nineties. I guess you could find a VHS recording of one of his HR’s if you really search hard enough.
by EricsLilHeros on Feb 27, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions

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