Today’s Other Fun Fact
I refer to this as Today's Other Fun Fact instead of Today's Fun Fact because I already posted Today's Fun Fact over here. It was not on this website and it does not have anything to do with the Mariners. The Mariners do not have a monopoly on fun facts. If they did, they would have a lot more fans, because they would be a lot more fun! Although in fairness I guess a lot of the fun facts I write aren't "fun" in the normal sense of the word. They're frequently more like Today's Interesting Facts, but people are more likely to read Today's Fun Fact than Today's Interesting Fact. People like fun. People are fun-loving people.
We were talking about Trayvon Robinson earlier. When you think Trayvon Robinson, you can't help but think about strikeouts. I can't help but think about strikeouts, anyway, and I'm the one writing. This is a fun fact that in part has to do with strikeouts.
Back in 2009, we had a little section along the left-hand sidebar. Within this section, we tracked the running walk totals for Yuniesky Betancourt and Jamie Moyer. That last sentence put the word "running" right next to the word "walk". Haha, English. The reason we were tracking this was because it took a long time for Yuniesky Betancourt to pull away from Jamie Moyer. In walks drawn, as a hitter. Yuni didn't draw his first walk until May 4th. Moyer drew his sixth walk on May 25th. Yuni drew his sixth and seventh walks on May 24th. Yuni ultimately won, but they were neck-and-neck for two months.
On Jamie Moyer hitting: when you imagine Jamie Moyer hitting, you might imagine Mr. Burns hitting. This is because Jamie Moyer is old and it's weird to consider that Jamie Moyer was ever not old. Moyer's certainly never been much of a hitter, even for a pitcher. He's batted 485 times in his career. To his name he has 44 singles and five doubles. He also has 34 walks and 142 strikeouts. This is good enough for a BB/K ratio of 0.24.
Miguel Olivo has a career BB/K ratio of 0.15. Exclude intentional walks and that drops to 0.13.
Okay, so maybe Olivo took a little while to get comfortable in the Majors. Maybe he was overwhelmed at first, or something. Over the last five years, he's posted a BB/K ratio of 0.15. Nevermind.
Now take Moyer at his most feeble. For our purposes we'll say that Moyer at his most feeble is Moyer at 40+ years of age. A 40+-year-old Jamie Moyer has posted a BB/K ratio of 0.22.
Obviously, there's a lot more to hitting than walks and strikeouts. Namely, power. Miguel Olivo has power. Jamie Moyer has drank milk before. In terms of productivity, it's no contest.
But in terms of approach? I'm pretty sure what the numbers are telling us is that Miguel Olivo has had a worse approach to hitting than Jamie Moyer, who is a soft-tossing pitcher who I can't even picture holding a bat. Olivo has a worse career BB/K ratio than Kirk Rueter and Barry Zito too. He has a better career BB/K ratio than Jim Abbott but Jim Abbott had one hand.
Miguel Olivo batting can be such torture on the eyes, but he's captivating on paper.
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While it is quite funny Jamie Moyer holds a better K:BB ratio, I think that might be attributed to Moyer not being able to do much with anything and knows it versus Miguel who tries to do too much with extremely little
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
I think it's funny that Jim Abbot would have to bat at all
by Dgood on Feb 2, 2012 8:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It is an actual thing that actually happened! Multiple times!


by Eyebrows on Feb 2, 2012 10:39 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
He went 2-21 in his one year in the NL, in Milwaukee
That is better than I expected, even with a -51OPS+
Both of those hits came against Jon Lieber, about two weeks apart.
And both went for RBIs. I’ll never feel the glory of being a professional baseball player, but on the flip side I’ll never feel the lows either. Jon Lieber gave up two hits to a one handed pitcher.
If I were Jon Lieber I'd tell everybody I did it to be nice.
I can’t imagine not throwing meatballs if pitching to a one-handed man.
This reminds me of maybe my favorite fun fact of all time, and that's Olivo's 2006 season
where he became the only player in MLB history to have single digit walks(9 and 4 of them were intentional!!!) and triple digit strikeouts(103).
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by Goose on Feb 2, 2012 8:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
The business of baseball is exempt from the Sherman Antitrust Act
If the Mariners wanted a monopoly on fun facts, they could have a monopoly on fun facts.
I'm too important to this team. Big Stein can't be flopping and twitching.
How did Olivo
ever make it to the big leagues?
I bet someone was partial to his CERA
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by Hasan Paliwala on Feb 2, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Over his last Minor League seasons, Miguel Olivo posted a .079 isolated patience.
He had an 11% BB+HBP rate in Double-A.
It’s been 5% in the Majors
I'll never forget Olivo's genuine surprise last season when the ump had to remind him it was ball 4 and walk.
Aaron Curry is the first Seahawk since Walter Jones to have a legitimate shot at Hall of Fame induction - John Morgan
by Fearless Frog on Feb 2, 2012 11:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions
That was just a weird game in general what with Miguel walking and they played a road series at home
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Feb 3, 2012 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
Hell, after last year I wouldn't indicate walk before they ordered it.
If the umps can’t fucking tell the difference between three and four, why help them?
Well, actually my real favorite is this one because it actually makes me happy:

Sullivan’s .gifs can’t be beat!
by sanford_and_son on Feb 3, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This was actually my favorite moment of the entire 2011 season.
For how shitty a season it was, I’m still going to remember this for a long, long time.
by Cascadian Man on Feb 3, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
Lius Rodriguez is really weird in this one.
by joof on Feb 3, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Can't unsee
Aaron Curry is the first Seahawk since Walter Jones to have a legitimate shot at Hall of Fame induction - John Morgan
by Fearless Frog on Feb 3, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
I really, really love the way Miguel points while looking back at the ump
He not only forgot that he walked, he forgot that walking was a thing that can happen in baseball. “Oh, I get to go to first because I didn’t swing? Oh. Oh ok.”
Looks to me like he was asking about how many balls there were in the count.
I think.
Aaron Curry is the first Seahawk since Walter Jones to have a legitimate shot at Hall of Fame induction - John Morgan
by Fearless Frog on Feb 3, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
A great time to ask
that question.
"Without freedom of speech I might be in the swamp" B. Dylan
If new Rockie Jamie Moyer hits his first career home run at age 49 this year, it might be my favorite baseball thing ever.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 3, 2012 8:11 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Of course Jamie Moyer draws walks.
Drawing walks is an old player skill.
by Llewdor on Feb 3, 2012 9:46 AM PST reply actions 3 recs

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