Yoenis Cespedes Is Athletic, An Athletic
Fitting the way that works out. It's like if the Giants signed a giant, or if the Mets signed someone they met.
I remember a time this offseason when the Athletics' outfield depth chart was Ryan Sweeney. It was Ryan Sweeney, just. There were a couple other guys - I think they were Michael Taylor and Jai Miller - but they were listed as backups, behind Ryan Sweeney. Ryan Sweeney, at that point, was the designated starter in left, center and right. One might've assumed the A's were really fond of Ryan Sweeney.
The A's traded Ryan Sweeney. Their outfield depth chart is now some unholy combination of Seth Smith, Coco Crisp, Josh Reddick, Jonny Gomes, Collin Cowgill, and Yoenis Cespedes. I tucked the surprise in there at the end. Cespedes, the big-time potential Cuban superstar and potential Cuban Roger Bernadina, has agreed to a four-year deal with Oakland worth $36 million.
It's a complete and utter surprise. You might notice that you are completely and utterly surprised. The A's were in on another Cuban named Jorge Soler, but they didn't seem to be anywhere on Cespedes. No one seemed to be anywhere on Cespedes the way that the Miami Marlins were in on Cespedes. Cespedes signing with the Marlins felt inevitable. I mean, why wouldn't he? A Cuban in Miami? A team that said, flat-out, it would be "aggressive to the point of stupidity" trying to sign him? Cespedes was going to be a Marlin. If he wasn't going to be a Marlin, it would be because some other big player came in and flashed a ton of money.
He signed with the A's. It's easy to make jokes about how, as a foreigner, Cespedes might not understand just how miserable Oakland's situation really is. There might even be some truth to that. And there's a self-serving aspect here - Cespedes inked a four-year deal with Oakland instead of a five- or six-year deal with Miami because this way he can hit free agency sooner. Free agency sooner means major money sooner, since Cespedes doesn't expect Cespedes to flop.
What matters most, though, is that Yoenis Cespedes is an A. It's crazy but it's true, or it will be true as soon as he passes his physical. Next year, every team in baseball will be working with an assigned pool of funds in international free agency. This was the last year for teams to go nuts. Oakland made the big splash. (Update: nevermind about this. Professionals like Cespedes will be exempt.) Oakland was a big player for Aroldis Chapman, too, but they didn't sign him. They did sign Yoenis Cespedes.
For whatever it's worth, Oakland isn't a total stranger to high-priced players. They did have Matt Holliday. They did have Ben Sheets. Eric Chavez was expensive. It's interesting that Cespedes is going to have the highest salary on the team. It's a hell of a risk for an organization you assume takes only calculated risks, but who's to say this isn't a calculated risk?
Most of you are probably reading this because you want to know what this means for the Mariners. It's really hard to say what this means for the Mariners, since it's really hard to say what Cespedes is going to be. It's easy to imagine him as a powerful bat that never develops the discipline necessary to be consistently productive. It's easy to imagine him as a complete center fielder, or a near-complete center fielder. The question isn't his tools - it's how skilled he is at using them.
I guess the message, and the message that probably didn't need to be delivered, is that we can't just write the A's off. A lot of real and fake ink has been spilled this offseason about how the A's are blowing things up. Look at the A's. Actually look at them. They're not bad. They're not good, but they're not bad, and they're not old. They just signed a significant player for significant money. The Mariners are not in a three-team division, and they're going to have some trouble with the A's. Not just in 2012. In the long run. Even if Cespedes doesn't turn out.
If he makes the roster out of camp, the first Major League pitcher Cespedes will see is Felix Hernandez. He'll face him in Japan.
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I still have no idea why they gave Crisp the money they did.
Trading away Gonzalez, Bailey, and Cahill, yet the give the the 32 year old OF who sported a .314 OBP last year and is incredibly average in the field $14 million over the next two years.
Oh, man. It's my mom. She looks pissed.
He's a bum!!
by BaronVonBullshit on Feb 13, 2012 11:13 AM PST via Android app up reply actions 14 recs
That really isn't a bad player.
Now if he was last year’s Guti at the plate and Yuni in the field, that would be awesome.
by Ballard Erik on Feb 13, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Was actually thinking Mike Cameron
Hopefully tail end of career Cameron and not turn of the century Cammy…
by Chris_FB on Feb 13, 2012 12:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
"The Mariners are not in a three-team division, and they're going to have some trouble with the A's."
This is true, though the degree of trouble they have depends a ton on the player development group that has, to date, not done a stellar job with position players.
The A’s had some talent last year, and they traded a lot of it away. Now they could actually be a contender in a while, but they’ve got a number of guys with red flags (Parker’s health, Choice’s contact, Milone’s stuff). There’s no real risk, as even if everyone fails, they didn’t risk a ton of money (Cespedes aside) and they were screwed if they didn’t make any moves.
This is generally why I stopped being intimidated by the A's ages ago.
Lots of promise and no delivery resulting in five straight non-winning seasons (fewer than the Mariners in that span, haha). I need to start seeing tangible improvements before I start worrying about them again.
The A's have 6 (7 now) Top 101 BP prospects
we have 4 (Nick Franklin, wth)
Also about half the projection systems project them as better than us next year.
I wouldn’t write them off. While we’re thinking 2013, 2014 so are the A’s, Texas has a legit farm system that’s arguably better than both ours and Oakland’s, and the Angels will be free of Hunter/Wells and able to reload again. This is a tough division.
Except the lolAstros, fuck them.
Actually, they have seven (and now eight) of the top 101.
Most of ’em were bunched in the bottom half, but still.
They M’s have three very high-end, high-impact prospects, and the A’s have a full team of good-but-questionable guys. It’d be a good quality vs. quantity experiment, but fundamentally, this is a test of two player development regimes that could really use some successes right now.
by marc w on Feb 13, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Except ours, they're all awesome.
Four aces!
by C Dubya on Feb 13, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Cool kids want to get in on the ground floor while they still can.
“I only liked the AL West when they had 4 teams.”
by sanford_and_son on Feb 13, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
In comparison to Oakland, Cuba is going to look great
Welcome to America Yoenis, ain’t Mt. Davis beautiful?
Carlos Silvelite
He's going to put up huge power numbers in his home park!
Or not at all!
Weird he’d sign there. Weird he’d take a 4 year contract so he can hit free agency earlier. You would think if that was a deal breaker, Miami would have just reduced the years.
Maybe the West will be the best division soon? maybe? or the East!
Why is it weird that he signed a contract allowing him to hit free agency earlier?
Isn’t that what you’d do?
It sounds like he had 6 years $36m or 4 years $36m.
I suppose - if I thought I was going to have a monster 4 year start to my career
I’d definitely take the same money for fewer years.
But why Oakland? That park is huge.
I am more surprised that Miami wouldn’t try fewer years to get him.
I don't think he hits free agency earlier- he's not exempt from MLBPA rules just because he's from Cuba
If he’s productive, though, the arbitration system should favor a decent raise after year 4
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
It was negotiated into his contract I'm guessing. All the reports are saying he's a FA after 4 years.
by Patrick Stites on Feb 13, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Hiroki Kuroda's the precedent here.
He had a 3-year deal with the Dodgers from 2008-10, then signed a free agent deal to remain in LA for 2011, then signed a free agent deal this year with New York.
by marc w on Feb 13, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Kenji was the same as Kuroda
If mgmt hadn’t given him the infamous extension, he would have been a free agent after 3 years as well. Once the Japanese players hit FA in Japan, they are considered to be the same as 6-year free agents over here. It probably works the same in regards to Cuban defectors.
Selig will use the best interests of baseball clause to keep Cespedes in Oakland for life
Fortunately, the clause also prevents Gwen Stefani from performing at World Series games so I call it a wash.
I'm too important to this team. Big Stein can't be flopping and twitching.
If Selig is still around when Cespedes' Contract is up,
Baseball will be in serious trouble.
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So does that change the old joke...
…what three animals would survive a nuclear holocaust??
Cockroaches, Keith Richards and Bud Selig??
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by TooManyNinjas on Feb 15, 2012 7:10 AM PST up reply actions
Hahaha fuck the Marlins
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
by Corco on Feb 13, 2012 1:03 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Why you can even say, Cespedes is an athletic...
Athletic.
by valencia on Feb 13, 2012 1:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I would have liked to see the M's sign Cespedes to a deal like this...
but alas, he’s not Japanese enough.
by Eric Wedge's Mustache on Feb 13, 2012 1:18 PM PST reply actions
Yes, that was why they did not sign him.
by Mariner John on Feb 13, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
I still think that's way to much
for someone no one really knows anything about.
Eh.
It seems like a lot, but really it’s paying him as an average MLB player (~2 WAR) and I imagine they were able to scout his defense reasonably well. Hitting is obviously trickier to figure but if he’s a decent glove in CF then the risk of his hitting being so atrocious as to make him a catastrophic contract strikes me as quite low.
Thanks. That makes
You should’ve made fun of me for misspelling too.
I would understand this if Cespedes were 21 or 22 or whatever. But he's 26. He's not exactly a prospect.
I guess talent is talent, but I don’t get what the A’s are doing.
@Goose1701
The fools, don't they realize that 4 years $36 million are cursed numbers?
by C Dubya on Feb 13, 2012 3:09 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Also cursed:
4y/48M, 3y/25M, 3y/9.15M
by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 13, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I think we're on to something
1. Athletics are athletic
2. prospects are prospects
3. talent is talent
I read:
Cespedes said he didn’t want to play in Miami. Too many Cubans would put too much pressure on him.
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