Why Hisashi Iwakuma Came So Cheap
That is a provocative headline. A provocative and declarative headline that is also misleading. There are probably a number of reasons for why Hisashi Iwakuma signed for $1.5 million guaranteed, only some of which I will get into. But look who's reading this post right now! It worked!
So the Mariners got Iwakuma for pretty cheap. There are reports that Iwakuma turned down more money from other teams, but we don't know if those offers matched the Mariners' incentives, and in any case no one offered Iwakuma anything close to what the A's offered him a year ago. Iwakuma came cheaper than I and most others assumed that he would.
Why? Well, last year, as we've talked about, Iwakuma missed about two months with a sore shoulder. It was not the first time he'd been sidelined by shoulder problems. Injuries tend to drive down price tags. Additionally - well, there's a table below. Iwakuma made six starts in 2011 before going on the shelf, and then he made 11 starts after coming back. Data is provided by NPB Tracker. I cannot speak to the quality of the data, but it is the best that we have, and it's probably reliable enough.
| Starts | avgFA | K/9 | BB/9 | |
| Pre-DL | 6 | 87.7 | 7.9 | 1.9 |
| Post-DL | 11 | 86.1 | 6.1 | 1.8 |
Over Iwakuma's final few starts of the 2010 season, his fastball averaged about 90mph. That was more or less his usual velocity. In 2011, he lost a couple ticks before taking a break. Then when he came back, his velocity didn't recover, nor did it even stay the same - it dropped a little more. It dropped, and he was easier to hit, although he was still successful.
You can see how that would be kind of a red flag. You don't like to see a guy lose velocity, miss time, and then lose more velocity. That's actually the opposite of what you'd like to see. You'd like to see a guy gain velocity, not miss time, and then gain more velocity. That guy would be something!
Now, a few things. It's possible there's a problem with the data. I'm not familiar with the source of the data, and maybe there's something wrong. Or maybe the system changed last year. Alternatively, it's possible that Iwakuma reduced his velocity on purpose. I don't know why he'd do that, but pitchers do things. Finally, maybe Iwakuma really did lose velocity and then lose more velocity because of an injury, but now he's all better. The offseason provides rest. Iwakuma has undergone a physical. He passed, and I'm guessing special attention was paid to his shoulder. The Mariners had him examined and then signed him anyway.
This is just something to think about. And a line in Greg Johns' recent writeup wasn't the most reassuring line ever:
Iwakuma said he recently threw 30 pitches in a light bullpen session and felt no pain.
I guess that's not bad news.
Hisashi Iwakuma appears to have lost velocity and missed time. He came back and then appears to have lost more velocity. I'm guessing this is a big reason why he signed for so little. In 2012, he could bounce back. He could pitch effectively without bouncing back. Those are definite possibilities. But he could have a rough go of it, or he could get hurt again. As much as I think the Mariners have a potential bargain on their hands, there's a reason he signed as a potential bargain in the first place. Be careful with your expectations.
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I feel like this may be a dumb question, because my gut tells me that there shouldn't be a difference
but are the surgeons the NPB uses on par with the ones the MLB players use?
He is also here cheaply, partly because he feels wanted
Weird.
Actually, come to think of it, most of the guys picked up this offseason have strong emotional ties to one player (kawasaki) the organization overall (sherrill, multiple members of the pile) or got the kind of sales pitch and tour and courting that you would think only high end folks get (iwakuma).
by Chris_FB on Jan 6, 2012 6:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Just to further muddy the water...
… what with NPB offense’s falling off of a cliff in 2011 across the board, I am starting to feel less and less comfortable with this signing. It’s no wonder that Zduriencik is still looking for some pitching help (PLEASE, DEAR GOD NOT MAHOLM!!!!)
Why not Maholm?
He was worth 2.6 rWAR last year while battling with some minor injuries and will cost little.
by Cascadian Man on Jan 6, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Maholm's 2011 campaign
was pretty much an outlier. He’s a 5.5 K and 3.0 BB / 9 kind of pitcher PRIOR to his shoulder injury last year. He’s not without value, but I feel better about having Iwakuma in the rotation than Maholm, and I’m not too keen on that at the moment.
His peripherals more or less stayed the same
Those are the numbers to look at. His ERA, whatever, everyone had their ERA go down (generally speaking), but even after injury, he was able to adapt to the slightly larger, slightly heavier ball and not spaz out. He’ll probably be more apt as a result to adapt to the MLB regulation ball without too much trouble, which is all you can ask for. If he’s completely overmatched by MLB hitters, that is what it is, but at least it’ll be them killing him, and not necessarily him killing himself (via walks, control issues, etc.).
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 9, 2012 5:53 AM PST up reply actions
hmm, a loss in velocity
What’s “eephus” in Japanese?
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You call that a first pitch?
This is a first pitch
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 9, 2012 5:58 AM PST up reply actions
"You'd like to see a guy gain velocity, not miss time, and then gain more velocity. That guy would be something!"
Fister!
by TIFO on Jan 6, 2012 10:07 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
But he did kinda miss time in there, somewhere.
Remember, he had that “I’m tired” phase. I still miss you Dougie!!!
This is giving me weird Bavasi flashbacks
Except he signs him to some ridiculous contract and advertises him as the next big thing from Japan. This whole deal is pretty sweet, I love this front office.
A number of reasons why he came cheap
But seriously, he signed CHEAP.
My only concern- and im glad its my only concern – is that because he is a japanese player we wont trade him at the deadline for prospects.
In the grand scheme of things, it doesnt matter if we beat Oak for 3rd place by 5 games or 1 game. If we miss out on trading him just so we can maybe win one more meaningless game I will be dissapointed.
There is nothing stopping him from re-signing with us after the year and because he will only have 1 mlb season he WILL NOT be a type A free agent, so we wouldnt have to give up anything to sign him again.
But as for the actual signing, its a VERY GOOD value for us and the risk/reward clearly favors us. Cant believe we got him so cheap
by briwas101 on Jan 7, 2012 10:24 AM PST via mobile reply actions
WAIT JUST A MINUTE
Is his name pronounced ’He’s a she’?! Oh God I hope so very much that’s the case.
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Oh god there's a whole new wave of troll comments in the making...
But no, it’s more like He-Sah-She [Ee-Wah-Koo-Mah]
by JY on Jan 7, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Em fassis on the wrong sil labuhl, eh?
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Sort of!
In Japanese, it’s not common for a syllable to end in a consonant. The only times it happens, it’s in instances of the syllable ending in a n or m sound, examples being the main island of Honshu or kendo. Sometimes, you can see double consonants (i.e., the same consonant twice in a row)… but that’s a whole different thing.
by JY on Jan 7, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
IE, Ishii
EE, shee, ee?
And you meant vowels, right?
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No, meant consonants, like the northern island Hokkaido.
Two k’s in a row.
Oh, alright. I assumed, based on limited knowledge.
Now my knowledge has expanded. Gratitude.
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by tsunamijesus on Jan 7, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So basically, it's still a great deal,
but we should still get try to get one of Moyer/Francis/Milwood/Maholm.

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