Trade's Official
Two Fridays ago - ten days - we learned that the Mariners were going to send Michael Pineda and Jose Campos to the Yankees for Jesus Montero and Hector Noesi. There were some delays, and Montero couldn't get to Seattle for his physical until this past weekend. He underwent a battery of tests, and there was no sign of the hype virus, or Eric Duncan Syndrome as it's known in some circles. So Montero was cleared, and now, at last, the trade is official.
I don't have anything to add at the moment that I or Matthew haven't already said. Yay, Montero is neat. Yay, Noesi is neat. Boo, Pineda was good, and boo, Campos could be good. Of interest is Jack Zduriencik's statement, which is a sentence fragment I can't believe I typed. On Noesi:
It is also beneficial that we were able to acquire a Major League- ready pitcher with six years of control and who will compete for a spot in our rotation.
So the Mariners see Noesi as a starter, like we figured. Good, that's the right thing. On Montero:
With this trade we feel we have acquired a premium offensive talent that has the potential to hit in the middle of our lineup and grow with our other young players [...]
Through our evaluations, we've identified the strength of our organization to be pitching depth, and this helped in our decision to acquire what we consider a premium bat and a potential starting pitcher [...]
Zduriencik talks about Montero being a talented bat, as he should, but he doesn't say anything about Montero being a catcher. Zduriencik didn't say that much so maybe this doesn't mean anything - maybe he just felt like praising Montero's offense - but it got my attention. This is the first public word on the trade from the Mariners' end (I think), and it could be a sign that they don't see Montero as a backstop.
Or maybe they do. I don't know. We'll all know more very very shortly, after Zduriencik and Montero go on a media conference call.
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“We see Montero as a catcher, but there is a chance it won’t work out… so we’re bloody well not going to commit ourselves to that being our measure of success.”
by KingCorran on Jan 23, 2012 2:30 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Pineda on the trade.
I’m feeling great and I’m beyond excited. I never thought I would become a New York Yankee so early into my career. This is the best thing in the world. Pitching alongside CC Sabathia, I’m speechless. And playing alongside players such as Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter is unbelievable.
by Tucci Mane on Jan 23, 2012 2:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
"I never thought I would become a New York Yankee so early into my career"
That fucker was going to leave us anyway.
by Cascadian Man on Jan 23, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I know most fans like to believe it
But not every athlete loves playing for seattle so much that they wouldnt want to leave.
It sounds to me like Pineda would’ve needed seattle to make a better offer than every other team in order for him to stay here, and even then he could still take less to play elsewhere.
I already really liked the trade, this just clinches it
by briwas101 on Jan 23, 2012 10:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Actually, I assume every baseball player grows up wanting to play for the Yankees
With the odd exception. But even the ones that have some other team as a favorite still secretly entertain the idea of putting on pinstripes at some point in their career.
by J0SER on Jan 23, 2012 11:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
True. Only so many players can have the background, "I've always wanted to play for the Mariners. I was a huge Griffey fan growing up."
Or you know, something along those lines.
Hmmm
Now Montero needs to go out and say that he’s speechless to hit alongside Miguel Olivo. And playing alongside players such as Chone Figgins and Brendan Ryan is unbelievable.
by Chipanese on Jan 23, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 20 recs
Well he apparently was a Yankee fan growing up, so eh.
I’d probably be psyched to play for my favorite team too.
by WhyGodWhy on Jan 23, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Even though I don't think that means anything and he said similar stuff about Felix, if I recall...
I’m willing to pretend this really upsets me. Grrr, Pineda. What an ass and stuff.
...and now I'm here
most of them do, but
i think it’s statistically improbable that Pineda gets better in that bandbox.
italics make it special
it sure seems like they do though, doesn't it?
even guys like Mike Morse, who you don’t expect. or maybe we only see the negative, as Mariner fans.
italics make it special
Maybe you weren't around for the last word on that?
At least it should have been
by J0SER on Jan 23, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
hense "seems"
we only see the bad. we are the Gloomy Guses of the sports world.
italics make it special
"I mean, I knew I would eventually joing my friend Felix
as a Yankee eventually. Now I’ll be there waiting for him when he arrives after he finishes his current contract."
italics make it special
by Lucas Cervi on Jan 23, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Don't take this the wrong way, but I want to put you in a cervical collar.
by abender20 on Jan 23, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 9 recs
sorry, i get off on picking at scabs.
they’ll pry Felix from our cold, dead fingers.
italics make it special
yay
While he has been watching what the Mariners have been doing this offseason, one thing he was not concerned about was the possibility of getting traded himself.
“Not at all,” he said. “They know I want to stay. I wasn’t worried.”
by JY on Jan 23, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 23 recs
I love Felix more than anything in the world...
but my girlfriend can’t know I said that.
by Clown baby on Jan 23, 2012 6:58 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
If she doesn't understand...
then she’s probably not worth it.
"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff
by EequalsMc2 on Jan 23, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Mine is well aware that Felix is the greatest love in my life.
She begrudgingly accepts it, and for that I love her.
by Cascadian Man on Jan 23, 2012 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
Mine caught me reading this thread
And asked me I wrote this comment. I fortunately could say no and did not bother to point out that I wrote the one which prompted this.
She will get suspicious when you make her wear the jersey.
How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?
by JAH on Jan 23, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Pitching alongside CC Sabathia and you're speechless?
You pitched alongside Felix Hernandez. That shit better have rendered you mute for weeks.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 23, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Maybe he'll die in a small fire
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
by Corco on Jan 23, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
According to Wikipedia, as of now
Michael Pineda is “a baseball pitcher for the New York Yankees” and Jesus Montero is “a baseball catcher for the New York Yankees.” Is there something they’re not telling us?
by ATM's34 on Jan 23, 2012 2:37 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Montero is on our roster at mariners.com, but his profile page is still a Yankees page.
ESPN hasn’t bothered to update either roster.
He's in for some disappointment.
by Cascadian Man on Jan 23, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 11 recs
A longer version of the quote
The Mariners, Montero said, have a high profile in Venezuela because of Hernandez, Franklin Gutierrez and former Seattle All-Star Jose Lopez
“People know a lot about Seattle,‘’ he said. "Now it’s going to be better because we’re going to win."
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by cdlewey on Jan 23, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I just got the snippet, "Trade's Off", in my browser,
and my instant reaction was not joyous. I think I know how I feel about this trade, finally.
by EricsLilHeros on Jan 23, 2012 3:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Cashman swears up and down that he's a catcher. Zduriencik won't go there.
It seems like if he had a lot of confidence in Montero’s ability to catch, he would go there. Which doesn’t give me a lot of confidence in his ability to catch, but gives me a ton of confidence in his bat since it would mean Z acquired him knowing he might not play any defense.
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Maybe calling him a "great catcher" would have been too misleading.
Leaving out catcher allows GMZ to avoid the embarrassment.
...and now I'm here
Z said "he'll be given every opportunity to catch"
Sounds like the perfect Z way of saying that they think he can be a catcher, but don’t know for sure yet. Non-committal for sure, but Z did not rule out Montero catching.
Displaying a lot of confidence in Montero's ability to catch would be extremely questionable
because so few people are confident in Montero’s ability to catch. Safe to just say “we love is bat” because that’s an indisputable truth. The last thing Z needs is casual fans damning his lack of foresight if/when Montero is DHed.
by Bullpen Bully on Jan 23, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Cashman may swear up and down whatever he wants
But he went out and got Russel Martin when he could have brought up Montero, and when they finally did bring him up they didn’t have him catch very much. There’s what you swear, and then there’s what you do.
by J0SER on Jan 23, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
OT: Z also apparently indirectly confirmed the Millwood signing.
If you don’t know about this, its neat: https://twitter.com/#!/d_a_cameron/mariner-writers
He looks sharper in a suit, holding a bat at Safeco Field than wearing an M's jersey
I guess that makes sense. Suits are classier than jerseys, especially Mariners jerseys.
Twitter- @GriffinNW
I was actually a fan of those when worn with the compass/silver brim hats.
Except when worn by out of shape or smaller players. Then it’s just funny.
by sanford_and_son on Jan 24, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions

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