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Mariners Gain Ground, Lose Ground By Beating Royals

See, there's two ways of looking at this. On one hand, the Mariners got out the sticks and battered the Royals with them like the Royals were on fire and the Mariners were incompetent fire-putter-outters. On the other hand, the Mariners beat the Royals for the second night in a row and thus lost ground in the draft standings, inching closer to the Padres and falling further from the top four. It is up to you to pick which is more important, but if nothing else, at least this was a different sort of baseball game.

Around 4:30 or so this afternoon, I navigated my way to MLB.tv and watched a bit of the Marlins and Pirates, specifically because it was a pointless, non-compelling matchup. The Marlins were in the process of posting a nine-run third, and they won 13-4. It was all very irrelevant. But it was weird to think of that game as irrelevant and non-compelling when Blake Beavan and the Mariners were getting set to take on Jeff Francis and the Royals at 7pm. This just felt like the kind of game no one would watch. It's September, it's Friday night, it's football season, the teams are bad, and the pitchers were unexciting. This game would draw writers, the ill, and people who just really, really love baseball.

But while the game had little drawing power going in, I think it's safe to say those who watched got something out of it. Even Royals fans, but especially Mariners fans. For Mariners fans, this game was a hell of a lot more entertaining than anyone would've expected it to be.

I can't go on about it at length, because we still have guests and besides, it's Friday night for me, too, but quickly on a few of the major points:

  • One pitch into the game, the Royals had a lead. Four pitches into the game, the Royals had a lead and a runner on third, and the Mariners had a shaken-up center fielder. I always confuse auspicious and inauspicious, but Dictionary.com confirms that Blake Beavan got off to an inauspicious start. He'd allow two more hits in the frame, too, before escaping on a line drive to short. But where it looked early on that Beavan wasn't long for this one, he'd settle down and ultimately finish with a strong line, for him. He threw 73% of his pitches for strikes, and he generated nine whiffs, which is straight up Fister territory. Nine is a lot better than the four and five we've seen from Beavan in the past.

    First-pitch leadoff home runs are so strange. They happen so suddenly that they barely register. Alex Gordon knocked his dinger, and it took a guest walking in and observing that "hey you're already losing" for me to realize that hey the Mariners were already losing.

  • Dustin Ackley finished 0-for-4, but it's worth noting that he finished with one of the most impressive 0-for-4s that at least I've ever seen. In the first, he lined out to Melky Cabrera in center. In the third, he had a home run taken away by Jeff Francoeur in right. And in the fourth, Francoeur took away a probable double. Ackley easily could've had three hits, and two of them would've gone for extra bases. It's frustrating, but it's also not, because it's good to see Ackley stinging balls like this, even if they don't go for hits. Over time, they'll go for hits.

    Francoeur's home run-saving catch was incredible. You can watch it here. The timing was perfect. I can't help but note that he got a little help:

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    The ball actually touched a fan's glove first before deflecting slightly into Francoeur's. Still, it was an amazing display of athleticism, and the way Francoeur came back all smiles was a delight.

  • This is probably worthy of a longer post in the near future, but Ichiro continued his desperation run towards 200 hits by going 4-for-5. The fourth hit was something of a cheapie, a fumbled grounder to second in the eighth that was originally ruled an error, but it goes as a hit in the box score, meaning Ichiro stands at 167 with 18 games to go. Working through the math is discouraging. Don't work through the math. Just sit back and watch and cross your fingers.

    One of Ichiro's hits was another home run, and he added a pair of stolen bases. Even if Ichiro can't get to 200, he could still leave us with more positive feelings about his 2012.

  • Alex Liddi came through with his first Major League hit, a ringing double to left off a Jeff Francis changeup. Liddi finished 1-for-4 with a double and three strikeouts, making this the most Alex Liddi game of Alex Liddi's two Major League games. We'll see if he has a more Alex Liddi game the next time out. He'll be hard-pressed. This was pretty him.

  • Miguel Olivo had the three hardest parts of the cycle out of the way by the fifth inning. He'd get two opportunities to complete it, popping out and grounding into a double play. As such, Miguel Olivo had maybe his best offensive game of the season, and still fans came away disappointed.

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But to get Ackley and not Strasburg they had to win.

We all hated them for it, but man these last 12 months have been more enjoyable, knowing that our top prospect wasn’t going through possible career ending surgery.

by themanleyman on Sep 10, 2011 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well now they've both had TJ surgery, so they're even there. ;-)

I’d still personally take Strasburg over Ackley, even in retrospect. But Ackley’s quite a consolation prize.

*obligatory: “if only they’d not swept the A’s in the last series that year”

by TIFO on Sep 10, 2011 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Honestly, I'm pretty happy that we got Ackley.

On a team like this that needed offense in the worst way, Ackley has been a blessing. Yeah Strasburg may still be one of the greatest pitchers of a generation but I’d rather have the position player.

by Hopefulmsfan on Sep 10, 2011 2:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. I won't say I prefer Ackley, but they're close enough that there's no reason to care either way.

I don’t think it’s a stretch at all to say Ackley could put up more WAR while he’s under team control than Strasburg.

by BigR on Sep 10, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely agreed.

Even if strasburg threw 30 games for us with a 2.50 era, the mariners still wouldnt have scored enough without ackley to avoid losing 120 games.

by Griffey's Butt on Sep 10, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You might want to go look it up...

especially how many innings he was throwing in the minors, and the significant jump in both innings and pitches when he reached the majors. It’s great that he threw 14 Ks in his first game, but he never should have been allowed to throw enough pitches to reach that total and his use in that game and subsequent games cost him a year. How they’ve used him this year, is how they should have used him last year.

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by jameslcrockett on Sep 12, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man.

That lady has GOT to make that play.

by Charles Gipson on Sep 10, 2011 12:12 AM PDT reply actions   7 recs

He gets there with 3 games left and is walked for the rest of the games.

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot

by beastwarking on Sep 10, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Or he gets hit by the pitch, and charges the mound...

…not because they threw at him, but because they didn’t throw at the plate.

"Perhaps the worst comment I've ever seen on LL." - sanford_and_son.

by Ride the Apocalypse on Sep 10, 2011 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ain't that the truth

I worked through the Ichiro math before reading this. It truly ain’t pretty. .450 the rest of the way? Its a prayer, but a few more 4 hit nights might make it possible. I still hope he pulls it off. But right now I hope for a respectable .280 down year.

by kstreetdawg on Sep 10, 2011 12:54 AM PDT reply actions  

So, is that the rule?

What happens if a ball bounces off a fan, back onto the field, and the fielder catches it? Just hits a fan, not a seat or the ground.

Let’s say a ball lands 8 rows back, bounces off a fan’s glove (or head!) and back onto the field. If the fielder catches it, is it an out?

by Paul AB on Sep 10, 2011 6:34 AM PDT reply actions  

No it's not.

Francoeur is probably the only person on the field that knew the fan got a piece of it, and honestly he probably didn’t either.

by BigR on Sep 10, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did the fan really get a piece of it?

I haven’t been to Safeco in a while but I remember there being a fairly significant gap between the stands and the fence over there that isn’t apparent from the telecast.

by EA on Sep 10, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a significant gap

That’s what makes this play even more badass.

by sofa_king on Sep 10, 2011 12:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know the exact rule, however

Balls hit objects beyond the fence and bounce back all the time. This counts as a home run because it went beyond the fence. A fan (in this case) would be considered an object. Since it hit the fans glove first then ricocheted in to his own glove it should counted as a home run. If the ball hit his own glove first then bounced back up and he recaught it, then, that would be considered a catch.

by sofa_king on Sep 10, 2011 1:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes, the ball never hit the ground per say, but

This isn’t football and a fan isn’t considered an another player. If a ball could bounce off a fan and it was considered live then what would stop a fan from spiking a ball back into the field of play?

by sofa_king on Sep 10, 2011 1:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Let's make all games for all teams important and interesting all year.

In our present-day culture, it’s not how you play the game, it’s whether you win or lose. So let’s have baseball accommodate that philosophy. Let’s restructure baseball so that every team makes the playoffs. Every game for every team is important. Last place teams have a 1 do-or-die playoff game to advance, then play the second-to-last teams in a 2 game playoff. See – it’s important not to finish last. Then the best of the worst get to play the average teams. Etc. Do this enough years and a last place team will eventually win the World Series.

No budget? No worry, you still make the playoffs. No talent? Don’t need it. All you need is a hot team for a short period. Kind of like it is now.

by PackBob on Sep 10, 2011 6:47 AM PDT reply actions  

And everyone gets cookies

Do you want to hear about my fantasy team?

by Cantu Easley Winn on Sep 10, 2011 9:27 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why not just give everyone a nice participation ribbon at the post-game pizza party?

The point of the playoffs is that it’s hard to get there. Take that away and you’re left with under-9 Little League.

by pdb on Sep 10, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want Ichiro to have 9 4 hit games in a row

Then walk a whole bunch with a homer tossed in every so often. Just to annoy the doubters.

by sea-townie on Sep 10, 2011 12:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Nah, it's perfectly rational to find joy in the struggle.

It’s part of coming to terms with the human condition. I swear during the 17 game losing streak it was one giant exercise in existentialism.
I felt Wedge was helping me grow as a person. Thanks coach!

by sea-townie on Sep 10, 2011 3:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Excel does the math for you!

Needed BA: .434

While that may be daunting, its down a full .026 from before Friday’s game.

by SeattExPat on Sep 10, 2011 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

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