Chance Ruffin, Newest Mariner
As Matthew noted in the post below this one, the player to be named later in the Doug Fister trade has become the player to be named about an hour ago, as the Mariners have officially selected Chance Ruffin from the Tigers. To make room on the 40- and 25-man rosters, Aaron Laffey has been designated for assignment, and Ruffin will report right to Seattle. He'll be in uniform and available tonight.
It's hard to work up much emotion over the Laffey move. For one thing, there's no guarantee that he's done with the organization, as he might clear waivers and report to Tacoma. And for another thing, he simply isn't that good. He wasn't good when the Mariners got him and he hasn't been good when the Mariners have used him, and it's not like his repertoire gives him potential upside out the wazoo. I'm thankful that Laffey kept his ERA low for as long as the M's were in contention, but that's it. Nothing personal, but I wouldn't mind if I never saw him in a Mariners jersey again.
Now, Ruffin. Ruffin rounds out what I think was a pretty good multiplayer deal, as the M's turned Fister and David Pauley into a big-league-ready outfielder, a big-league-ready starter, a big-league-ready reliever, and a third base prospect. It isn't the greatest trade the M's have ever made, but I think they did well.
The background for Ruffin is that he was selected 48th overall in the 2010 draft. He's the son of Bruce Ruffin, and he pitched for U Texas before getting grabbed by the Tigers. He's a 22-year-old righty reliever who began his professional career in double-A, where he closed. He's also closed in triple-A, and he's made two appearances in the Majors.
His overall statistics:
52.1 innings
22 walks
63 strikeouts
5 homers
A few zillion fly balls
But you probably don't care so much about the statistics. You probably care more about what Ruffin actually throws. And what Ruffin actually throws is a fastball in the low- to mid-90s, and a slider that Baseball America ranked as the best in the Tigers' system last November. He also tools around on occasion with a changeup, and some people say he throws a curve, but his changeup isn't good, and if his curve exists, it isn't good, either. Like so many other righty relievers, Ruffin sits almost exclusively fastball/slider.
It's a power arsenal that allows him to dominate at times, when he has his stuff under control. Which he doesn't always. Ruffin doesn't have pinpoint command, and because he likes to work up in the zone, he can hang some sliders. But at the same time, no one would describe Ruffin as "wild," as he's more in control than he isn't. And, of course, he could get better. He's still new.
It's worth noting that his arm angle is pretty low:
As always, that should make him more tricky for righties to hit, and less tricky for lefties to hit. With a low arm angle and a presently poor change, Ruffin could have some problems against lefties if his location isn't really good. But he should succeed against righties, effective immediately.
Ruffin's a good talent. Because he's a reliever, his value upside is limited, and he isn't yet at his ceiling. There are still improvements to be made, improvements he may never make. But he's an intriguing addition, and now we have a month and a half to see what he can do as a Major League reliever before the offseason begins. If guys like Ruffin, Josh Lueke and Shawn Kelley look good, that could make the front office all the more willing to move Brandon League. Or it could make the front office all the more willing to keep Brandon League so that the M's have a solid corps of relievers in 2012. I don't know. What am I, Nostradamus?
Ruffin's pretty good now, and he could, in time, be better than that. Here's to success.
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I hope he gets a... chance... to close in the future.
Ok, yeah, that was horrible. But I love adding a potential impact reliever in this trade. Good work, Jack.
Does anyone know who else the FO was choosing from?
Just curious if Ruffin was the clear cut best player out of that group.
Its not at all clear that there was much choice
The timing of the announcement, which was known since the day of the trade, suggested that it would be someone who signed at the deadline last year, so we knew it was one of a small group but it does not mean that the others were ever available.
Zduriencik has walked away from trades before, and the pressure to move Fister was not great. I think it’s safe to say that he got the players he wanted.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Aug 17, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He seems to be the best guy for the team, given their talent pool
that’s already in the starting corps at MLB/MiLB and the fact that the ‘holes’ on the team are Catcher and 3B with LF/RF/CF seeming filled by a bunch of interesting prospects too. So given the fact they got a team-controlled MLB-ready reliever in addition to the other pieces for Fister (and Pauley), it’s a nice-sized haul.
The photo perfect
All the White Sox do is hit homers off of our pitchers. It’s nice to know Ruffin has had the same experience!
Carlos Silvelite
you said that this wasn't the greatest trade the M's have ever made, and i agree, BUT
I wouldn’t undersell it either!
Considering the M’s history of trades, which is littered with some really stupid trades, probably more bad than good, this is probably going to work out as one of the better ones.
There’s almost no chance that a few years from now we’ll regret this deal, or be asking how the M’s could have ever let Fister or Pauley go.
Pretty good chance that between Ruffin and Furbush we’ve adequately replaced Fister and Pauley, and even better chance that one day we’ll look back and say "wow, Wells sure turned out to be a nice everyday player for us.
Furbush and Ruffin both throw harder than the guys we essentially swapped them for, and combined with the fact they are young, velocity + youth equals more upside.
Add in Wells (who has a great arm, plays good defense, and is showing he can hit in Safeco) plus a third base prospect, and it’s pretty easy for me to see that this could be a top ten all time best M’s trade.
There’s really almost no chance we’ll regret it, but a very good chance we’ll end up loving it a few years from now. Wherever it may rank, I’m calling this a win.
by fargomonkey on Aug 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I'm loving it now.
The team got better the instant this deal was struck, never mind what it will look like in a few years.
by Jon S. on Aug 17, 2011 2:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I mean to say I agree.
Very good trade.
by Jon S. on Aug 17, 2011 3:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
good point!
Never mind a few years from now, as of right now, the Mariners are a better team than before the trade.
The funny thing is, for a team trying to compete right now (Tigers) IMO they’d have been MUCH better off, right now, had they stuck with what they had before the trades.
In no way is Delmon Young anything other than a downgrade from Wells, and I fail to see where the additions of Fister and Pauley offset that.
I’m at a loss to explain what the Tigers are doing…or for that matter the Dodgers, who I would like to write a thank you letter to, for being dumb enough to include a very nice, toolsy young player Treyvon Robinson, to make the Bedard trade work.
Far as I can tell, the M’s sort of played the Tigers and Dodgers, and even the Red Sox to a somewhat lesser degree.
Z may have made some (in hindsight) bad free agent deals, but he’s a trade ninja!
by fargomonkey on Aug 17, 2011 3:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think the Red Sox did well
It was the Dodgers who got worked in that deal.
If he stays healthy Bedard could be an absolute stud in the playoffs.
by Snuffleupagus on Aug 17, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you thinking of Bruce Sutter?
Ruffin didn’t have a beard, i don’t think.
I was going to get really mad that isn't Smyly, because decent starter prospect over decent relieve prospect everytime,
But he might have been one of the options we were picking from I guess…
PTBNL is a pretty opaque process.
I don’t recall ever knowing who’s on “the list” for any trade, before or after the naming of the player.
by Jon S. on Aug 17, 2011 3:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
How does Tui keep his 40 man roster spot?
I keep thinking he will be the next to go, but it never happens. Does he have ANY future on this team?
"bait" is generally something your quarry finds attractive.
by marc w on Aug 17, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not the way I fish
“Man, you’re getting tons of bites, what are you using?”
“I’ve got a Jesus Montero, getting chasers constantly, why what are you using?”
“Aww man, all I’ve got is this Tuiasosopo, I tied it myself though”
“ohhh, well uh, it sure is nice weather we’re having huh?”
by Snuffleupagus on Aug 17, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Funny, though i'm a little surprised you're getting nibbles using Montero...
It must be the flash, because Montero is more flash than substance, Yankee bait always is…better than a Tuiasosopo though.
by fargomonkey on Aug 17, 2011 5:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The only thing that I find upsetting is Zduriencik's use of the word "significant."
...and now I'm here
He's useful, but significant should be reserved for players fans should get excited about. Like "Stoked."
Ruffin’s not significant. He’s a relief pitcher that is moderately interesting.
...and now I'm here
I'd disagree.
“Significant” to me means an actual prospect — not a functionally irrelevant throw-in such as a Josh Fields/Matt Lawson/Fabian Williamson type.
Ruffin is definitely a legitimate prospect, being well regarded enough to be drafted 48th overall just last year and having succeeded in his minor league assignments.
Significant for a PTBNL, yes. Significant to the future of this baseball team, not really.
...and now I'm here
I kind of disagree
I don’t disagree with your assessment of relievers in general (they are, by and large, insignificant). However, baseball teams don’t feel that way. Teams make deals for relievers all the time, and occasionally give up some legitimate assets for them.
If Ruffin blossoms into a late inning reliever as most seem to think he will, he can be a significant asset for the M’s by either a) allowing the M’s to feel comfortable trading other relievers (i.e. Brandon League) for value or b) becoming a trade piece himself.
I wouldn’t be shocked if over the next three or four years Ruffin does both of those things.
He may not be a significant addition to the roster, but he very well could play a significant role in the Mariners future. He’s not the guy I wanted either, but he definitely makes the trade look significantly better than it would have with just the non PTBNL guys, so I think Z’s description is quite fair.
by dnc on Aug 18, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
It blows my mind that some one that played for the Rockies for 5 years could now have a kid in the Majors...
I still feel like the Rockies are a “new” team. I feel old.
I think the Rockies/Ruffin timeline probably matches up closely to Mariners/Griffey.
So: Chance Ruffin=Gold Glove center fielder.
She also said it wasn't a reliable source.
by Patrick Stites on Aug 17, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
What she said was
“I am reasonably sure it is not Chance Ruffin and am hearing — but not from a reliable source — that it could be Nick Castellanos”
by Ben Tumbling on Aug 18, 2011 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions

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