Mariners Beat Rangers, Don't Actually End Up Playing Spoiler At All
Forget everything I said yesterday. Forget everything I said about every game against a contending opponent presenting an opportunity to play spoiler. I still think it's true, so maybe you shouldn't forget it, but you should forget about it applying to the current Mariners. Why? Let me tell you why.
Mariners vs. Angels, 8/5-8/7: 1-2
Mariners vs. Rangers, 8/8-8/10: 1-2
Boom. Over the course of the past week, the Mariners have been given six chances to play spoiler against the two teams fighting it out in the AL West. And what did the Mariners do? They canceled themselves out. By winning once against the Angels and then winning once against the Rangers, the Mariners made it such that these games may as well have not been played at all. They won't make any difference in the year-end standings. The Angels picked up two wins and one loss, and the Rangers picked up two wins and one loss.
Good for the Mariners for winning tonight and salvaging the series, because I'm sure it makes the whole clubhouse feel better. This way they all get to take a happier flight home, and they don't have to feel like they stood around in that heat for three days for nothing. But now that it's all done, we can say that the M's just played the worst spoiler ever. It's like they don't even get the point.
Some bullet holes from a game I didn't see:
- I was following along with the progress on my phone during a summer concert in the park. I was excited when the M's took the lead, I was disappointed when they gave it away, and I was excited again when they climbed back ahead. I did a reserved little fist pump at the final out. It's weird; when I'm out doing something else these days and checking in on the M's from afar, I care about the outcome more than I do when I'm at home, watching the action live on TV. I don't know why that would be. It seems counterintuitive. The best explanation I can come up with is that watching three hours of the Mariners leaves me incapable of caring about anything anymore. Maybe that's unfair, but you can't argue with science.
- I like the term "salvage" as it's applied to baseball series. I like the image of a big series sinking in the middle of the ocean, with one of the teams desperately paddling around, trying to rescue one solitary win. But then where do the other wins go? The other wins go to the other team, right? Is the other team the ocean? No wonder the first team lost.
- Jason Vargas is getting a lot of credit for battling today, allowing three runs in seven innings while pitching without his best stuff. He's being discussed in such a way as to suggest that he wasn't good, but was good enough. Ordinarily I'm not too keen on these things, because a pitcher who battled is usually a pitcher who got lucky, but for one thing, I couldn't watch this game, and for another thing, it was 100+ degrees outside. Some pitchers are fine throwing in heat, but others are not. Everybody responds in a different way. And if I had to guess, Vargas seems like more of the cold weather sort. Vargas looks like a guy who's no stranger to sweating, but who doesn't exactly enjoy it. I can't bring myself to be in any way critical of a pitcher when he's working in conditions that would render me a whiny lil bitch.
- For real, when it's even 80 degrees outside I am just the worst. Ask Matthew.
- Neftali Feliz vs. Seattle, 2011: 6.1 innings, 1 walk, 8 strikeouts
Neftali Feliz vs. others, 2011: 37.2 innings, 20 walks, 24 strikeouts - Mike Carp stayed hot (ed. note: who couldn't! This is a heat joke), and he didn't only extend his little hitting streak - he extended it with a single and a home run. The homer came against a lefty in an 0-2 count, and saw Carp blast an outside slider well beyond 400 feet to straightaway center field. It wasn't the best pitch for Derek Holland to throw in that situation, but it also wasn't a pitch you'd expect to sail 400 feet in the other direction, so credit to Carp for staying back and providing only further evidence that he's turned into a real-life big league hitter. His OPS is up to .861, and I'm feeling good about this run that he's on.
He also walked and played some nifty defense at first for good measure. The walk is nice to see, since Carp hasn't been doing a ton of that. As for the defense, whatever, good for him. First base is already taken care of, Mike. Play some nifty defense from behind the plate and then I'll really be impressed. - Dustin Ackley had the first three-strikeout game of his Major League career, with all coming against the lefty Holland. And still, he managed to reach base twice, as it's just impossible to be in any way mad at the kid. Miguel Olivo has already had seven three-strikeout games this season. He's also had two four-strikeout games. Over those nine combined games, he's reached base a total of twice. Dustin Ackley is an elegant crystal chandelier, while Miguel Olivo is a Maglite on a string.
- The Mariners scored their first run in the second inning when Trayvon Robinson batted with one out and the bases loaded. Robinson tapped a bouncer in front of the plate, but as Holland charged, he couldn't get the ball out of his glove, and everybody was safe. The play was scored a throwing error, as Holland made the error of not throwing.
Ichiro followed Robinson by also tapping back to the mound. Then Luis Rodriguez struck out to end the inning. Duh.
Blake Beavan and John Lackey Friday night after a Thursday offday. Looks like another opportunity for the M's to play spoiler! Kind of.
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Carp Diem!
The annoying part about Carp’s performance that I can’t ignore is how obviously it should have started so much earlier in the year. I’m sorry, I know it’s inconsequential now, and I should be past it, but I can’t keep thinking about the wasted time on Peggy.
by rjjunior on Aug 10, 2011 11:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I understand he sucked pretty bad while he was up here.
But it’s not really his fault that he was here while Carp was still in AAA. And it’s not impossible that he will get better with more experience. It is unlikely, but not impossible. I just don’t see the need for the irrational hate towards Peguero.
by Hopefulmsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
You sure are hopeful, Hopefulmsfan!
by WSU_Mariner on Aug 11, 2011 1:10 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I for one loved Peguero
I mean, for every time he failed to produce in a crucial spot, he failed to produce in a different somewhat less crucial spot.
At least the man was consistent, which is something you can’t say about any of the other schmucks on this team.
by twelveoutof10 on Aug 11, 2011 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah the fact that he out-Angeled the Angels twice was beautiful.
Plus I was at the Tampa game where he hit 2 home runs off of Shields so I’ve got a bit of a soft spot for him.
by Hopefulmsfan on Aug 11, 2011 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I was at that game too
And despite my sarcasm above, I really want him to get better. I’d love to see him get full playing time next year or the year after.
by twelveoutof10 on Aug 11, 2011 2:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus he broke a lof of bats.
I went to a game with three people who knew nothing about baseball, they loved the bats breaking! Could be a new sub-category for the home run derby.
by sea-townie on Aug 11, 2011 11:40 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Chandelier vs. Maglite
You come up with the most wonderful paradoxes and descriptive phrases that sometimes only Mariners fans can grasp. Thank you, Sir!
by DaWhippet on Aug 11, 2011 12:03 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
"Dustin Ackley is an elegant crystal chandelier, while Miguel Olivo is a Maglite on a string."
I LOVE this because it’s so obviously true!
by Westside guy on Aug 11, 2011 12:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
"First base is already taken care of, Mike."
Ummm…Carp has more than twice Smoak’s WAR in 1/3 as many games. Just sayin’.
Also, I just got really depressed typing that.
Carp's defense seeming decent at 1st so far.
Would there be merit in putting Carp at 1st and Smoak at DH? I know Smoak playing a position makes him more valuable but if he could hit as a DH wouldn’t having better 1st base defense make the team better overall? And yes I know Smoak could get better defensively, just curious what anyone else had to say about it.
by Hopefulmsfan on Aug 11, 2011 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Only according to Fangraphs. Baseball Reference has Smoak at 0.7 WAR in '11 and Carp at 0.6.
But, after this game, I’m sure Carp has at least matched him.
"Perhaps the worst comment I've ever seen on LL." - sanford_and_son.
by Ride the Apocalypse on Aug 11, 2011 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Since WAR is a counting stat
…and can go in the negative direction, I imagine that Smoak’s “injury” went a long way toward decreasing his perceived value. If you subtract the month and a half when he was terrible (hypothetically), you have a guy that produces above the level of Carp.
The good news is that the Mariners don’t exactly have a DH who can play regularly and not be an out vacuum. There will certainly be room for Mike Carp in the future, Smoak healthy or not.
by twelveoutof10 on Aug 11, 2011 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions
It did indeed
I seem to remember a time in the season where Smoak was pacing for around 4-5 WAR, then his very extended slump happened and his WAR went down the tubes. Carp could easily (maybe more easily) go the same way. Or, maybe Carp works out and Smoak, once un-injured, returns to form and the M’s officially have their DH and 1st base locked up cheap for the foreseeable future.crosses fingers
by TIFO on Aug 11, 2011 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we could get 9 WAR combined from Smoak, Carp, and Pineda next year at their salaries, I would be extatic.
by Shmelix Shmernandez on Aug 11, 2011 3:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd be happy with that. I'm not sure about ecstatic.
Pineda: 4 WAR
Smoak: 3.5 WAR
Carp: 2.5 WAR
THAT would make me ecstatic.
"Perhaps the worst comment I've ever seen on LL." - sanford_and_son.
by Ride the Apocalypse on Aug 12, 2011 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn't we still play spoiler in a way?
I mean, the Angels didn’t pick up any ground through us, so now they have the same gap to cover with fewer games. It’s harder for them. We spoiled their week!
Regarding the Neftali Feliz bullet point
check out Larry Stone’s column yesterday. Neftali isn’t the only pitcher the M’s have made look like the second coming of Cy Young.You say your ERA is a little high? No problem! The Mariners are coming to town.
Common sense isn't.
by Bald Eagle 1313 on Aug 11, 2011 7:44 AM PDT reply actions
Not to complain but...
I’d rather my shiny new rookie middle infielder not be compared to anything nearly so fragile as a chandelier. Now, Nick Johnson—there was a prime chandelier.
(Punctuation enforcers: should I capitalize every major word in the headline or just the first one? How do you feel about incomplete sentences? Period, or no period?)
You're making this difficult
I can’t bring myself to be in any way critical of a pitcher when he’s working in conditions that would render me a whiny lil bitch.
How am I supposed to pretend to be working if I’m laughing out loud at my desk?
A quick, cherry picked history of Jason Vargas and the climates to which he's been exposed.
He was born in Apple Valley, CA, which is in the Mojave Desert.
It gets so hot there that half the babies born in Apple Valley melt just after delivery.
He played at least a little bit at Victor Valley High School.
If a drop of sweat starts at the top of the ass crack in Apple Valley, it travels down through the Victor Valley before ending up in Victorville.
Fun fact: John Henry, owner of the Boston Red Sox went to school at V.V.HS
Fun fact 2: John Henry also owns Liverpool F.C.
He was then drafted by the Twins, but declined and chose to go play in Louisiana. Louisiana! And he did that on purpose.
Vargas has played minor league ball in, among other places, Greensboro, NC; Jupiter, FL; New Orleans, LA, and Albuquerque, NM.
Either he’s made peace with oppressive heat, or he’s had the absolute worst luck during the bulk of his baseball days. His favorite ice cream flavor is habanero sand scorpion, so I’d guess it’s the former.

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