Mariners Remain Nationally Relevant As August Draws Near
March
Mariners fan: Hey look what I found in a box on the sidewalk!
Roommate: It's an old monkey's paw.
Mariners fan: I'm going to use it for wishes!
Roommate: Uh huh
Mariners fan: Monkey's paw, do you grant wishes?
Monkey's paw: /nods
Mariners fan: I wish for the Mariners to matter all season long!
Monkey's paw: /finger curls
April
Mariners fan: Stupid defective monkey's paw.
May
Mariners fan: All right monkey's paw!
June
Mariners fan: Still hanging in there! It's working!
July
Mariners fan: God damn tricky monkey's paw.
Monkey's paw: /cackles?
Mariners fan: Why have I only used this for one wish
Mariners fan: Why did I wish about the Mariners
Roommate: Hey, you coming out for drinks later?
Mariners fan: I wish I could, but I have to visit my mom, it's her birthday.
Monkey's paw: /finger curls
Roommate:
Mariners fan:
Roommate:
Mariners fan: Hmm
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Several weeks ago, I thought about and scrapped a post I was going to write about Chone Figgins. I didn't scrap it because I didn't like it; I scrapped it because something else came up and I simply shifted my attention. The thesis was going to be that Chone Figgins is actually good for us as Mariners fans. Not great for us, obviously - Evan Longoria would be great for us - but good for us, in that Chone Figgins gave us steady material to talk about and joke about. Chone Figgins was something for us to feel emotional about, and Chone Figgins was something for us to discuss. Ultimately, sports are an entertaining distraction, right? Figgins was and is a distraction. A frustrating one, sure, but always a ready topic of baseball conversation. Chone Figgins has been a disaster, but Chone Figgins has been interesting.
The same argument could be advanced with regard to the Mariners' current fifteen-game losing streak. We would all obviously prefer that they string together 15 consecutive wins instead of 15 consecutive losses, but think about how much attention you've been paying to the Mariners of late. Compare that to how much attention you would've paid them had they gone, I dunno, 4-11 or 3-12. In all cases the M's would be sunk, but because they've gone 0-15, they've remained interesting. Mariners fans who never tune out have been ultra-focused, and Mariners fans who might've tuned out have stuck around, if only for the horror of it all. You can't look away from a team riding this kind of losing streak. You can't stop thinking about a team riding this kind of losing streak.
It's been joked about before that, if a team can't be good, it should be exceptionally bad, and while that doesn't always apply or even often apply, it does apply to the current situation, because the Mariners are still on the forefront of our minds. That's all we can really ask of a sports team, so kudos to the Mariners for delivering into at least the end of July. Attention will wane once the losing streak is over and the team achieves a more normal brand of lousy baseball, but then, who knows when the losing streak's going to end, with the Yankees and Rays coming up? I know I'll be watching closely, and I know you will, too.
Just a few bullet holes before we can all get on with our Sundays:
- The immediate question is "what's wrong with Michael Pineda?" and the immediate response is "I'm not sure yet." Pineda's now allowed 19 runs in his last three starts, after allowing 34 in his first 17. His first inning today was a complete nightmare as the Red Sox ripped the ball all over the place, laying off his slider and killing his heat. Pineda rebounded, for the most part, but the damage had been done.
There are any number of possibilities. Maybe Pineda's fastball command has been worse. Maybe his slider command has been worse. Maybe the league is catching up to him. Maybe he's wearing down. Maybe his pitch patterns have been predictable. Or maybe nothing is wrong at all. This last one is a distinct possibility. There were lots of these same questions after fellow fastball/slider rookie Alexi Ogando tossed three consecutive weak starts, and since then he's allowed five runs in 21.2 innings. Pineda may be just fine.
But he may not be, and the team will do some research and probably tweak some things, and we'll see when his next turn comes around. Erik Bedard looks ready to rejoin the rotation. Blake Beavan has been real solid to date. Maybe this is the Mariners' opportunity to send Pineda down to Tacoma, allowing him to straighten some things out while gaining that extra year of control. I don't think they'll do it, mind you, but they could, like the Orioles did with Zach Britton. It is on the table.
Michael Pineda is a 22-year-old rookie. Even during this rough stretch, he's racked up 17 strikeouts and five walks against three strong offenses on the road. He is incredibly good. He's just not perfect, and a stretch like this was going to happen at some point. I trust that he'll get through it. - For the fifth time in their last six losses, the Mariners had a lead. The offense has been there, about as much as we could hope for the offense to be there. It's the pitching that's been the real letdown, and if you ask me, it's about time. The pitchers deserved to get knocked down a peg after 100-odd games of acting all smug and superior. Haha, everybody's in this together.
- Tim Wakefield departed to a rousing standing ovation after allowing seven runs and 12 baserunners in 6.1 innings. I get that he'd recorded his 2,000th strikeout as a member of the Red Sox earlier in the game, but Wakefield was not good, and the ovation only speaks to how confident the Sox fans all were despite their starter allowing the Mariners' biggest offensive outburst in more than a month.
- One of the reasons Eric Wedge gave for shaving off his mustache is that he wanted to lighten the mood, with so many players visibly pressing. I don't think there's any denying that several Mariners are pressing, since it's only natural to press when you're this desperate for a win, but what's interesting is how different players respond in different ways. Brendan Ryan, for example, might be taking this losing streak harder than any other player on the team, but Ryan has also batted .317 during the skid with an OPS well over .800. Just today he doubled, he hit a grand slam, and he turned in a handful of spectacular plays in the field. Pressing might be making some players worse, but if anything, it's making Brendan Ryan better.
- Eric Wedge's late mustache didn't leave a tan line.
Now the Yankees. I don't think the M's will get swept, just because I never like predicting a sweep in any matchup between any two teams, but I can't decide if busting the streak would increase or decrease the Safeco attendance come Friday.
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They'll need some luck to continue the streak.
Playing poorly helps, to be sure, and the offense up while pitching is down helps, or the other way, but even bad teams win games sometimes, just because they do.
I kinda flipped out when I checked the scoring summary and saw Ryan hit a grand slammer.
That rules.
by sanford_and_son on Jul 24, 2011 5:48 PM PDT reply actions
He'd come close to getting one over the monster a couple of times this series, and then he finally got one w/ the bases loaded.
Wow, this team isn’t half bad when it doesn’t matter.
I'd make a joke about tanking deliberately to secure the #1 pick next year...
…but the Astros would have to win the next 10 in a row and the Mariners lose the next 10 in a row just to be tied in the standings. That’s more of a statement about the DisAstros than anything else.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
We've developed a comforting relationship with the #2 pick anyway.
It may not be as flashy, but we’ve grown comfortable with it.
by SethGrandpa on Jul 24, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
It's treated us fairly well, too!
"Perhaps the worst comment I've ever seen on LL." - sanford_and_son.
by Ride the Apocalypse on Jul 24, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
And it comes with a free Frogurt!
but it carries a horrible curse
Ready to Play
by tsunamijesus on Jul 24, 2011 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Must be some kind of meme to screw this exchange up...
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 24, 2011 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
At a certain point a losing streak goes from depressing to hilarious and then I find myself rooting for the loss.
A #2 pick is well within reach again!
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Franklin Gutierrez with a 28 OPS+ so far on the season.
Now there’s something to feel emotional about.
by Public Image, Ltd. on Jul 24, 2011 9:01 PM PDT reply actions
If not for his and Smoak's struggles, I would be entirely okay with where this season's at
Despite the losing streak
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by Griffin Cooper on Jul 24, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, and Ichiro
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by Griffin Cooper on Jul 24, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Friday's attendance will not be impacted by the Yankees series
It’s all about the green and gold. People will show up to see Sonics. They may leave soon after if it’s like the 2001 reunion game.
by Breadbaker on Jul 24, 2011 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Pfft, you guys take so much pride in your arbitrary counting stats like "losses".
The Mariners have recorded 45 outs (or they’ve held a lead for 10 full* innings) with the lead since July 6th. They’re just not recording those outs at the right times. That’s why stats like wins, losses and RBI’s aren’t used by real baseball analysts. Don’t take so much pride in this streak of yours fellas. It’s just a lucky stretch and you’re bound to regress down to earth eventually.
- By full inning I mean having the lead after letting the team have a chance to record all of their outs in a given inning. Not surprisingly, the Mariners have had a lot of their leads taken away with one-two outs in the same inning as taking said lead.
Also, this was done via a fairly quick glance and a couple of lines typed out on notepad.
Did it mainly to satisfy my own curiosity. Other “findings”:
The Mariners never had a lead against the Rangers at home during this streak.
The Mariners have had a lead in 7 games this streak.
Four of the times the Mariners did gain a lead, they gave it up in the other half of the inning.
by SgtSasquatch on Jul 24, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm so glad I got a second job a month ago
I have’t been able to watch any Mariners game, which turns out isn’t a bad thing
Unfortunately my second job is working at Root Sports
So I’m forced to watch the Mariners.
by SeparationSunday on Jul 25, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't agree that a long losing streak dredging on and on and on and on and on makes a team more watchable
This is supposedly going to make casual fans more likely to turn on the game, or go to the game? I don’t buy it (unless this was just a post-long snark that went way over my head).
Not necessarily watchable
but interesting. A team on a super long losing streak is undeniably interesting.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 25, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I can pin-point the game in which I stopped watching the team
21 June – the day of the 9th inning comeback by the “Natinals”
They would go 6-7 over the next series of games before the current losing streak. Oddly, I do care more now than I did when we were one game over 500.
Apparently I’m a fair weather fan as well as a Really Fucking Miserable Weather fan.
You mention that the M's had a lead for the 5th time in their last 6 losses
But the interesting thing to me is that, during this entire streak, they’ve held a lead 9 times (twice in the same game).
In 7 of those games, they scored to take the lead but the pitching gave the lead right back the very next half inning. Seven! Seven of the leads were gone before the pitching could get 3 outs!
For some reason, the pitching is just completely unable to keep it together when our offense scores.
This losing streak is akin to reading a tragic novel
The best part of those you get to experience pain and suffering without your life truly feeling the ramifications of those loses. I much rather watch Ichiro age then my dog. Watching your dog get old is painful as you know what will be coming. Watching Ichiro age is realizing you are witnessing an end of an era. Still sad but it a much less personal way.
Pain and suffering are
by sea-townie on Jul 25, 2011 11:41 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
moments that can lead to a vastly cathartic joy
I hope to see when they break this streak. It’ll feel historic. Much like a game I went to this season where I witness Milton Bradley’s last stand as a major league player. At the moment it felt like a let down. Now I feel I saw something you rarely see at a ball game. Hindsight is 20/20 but also given context can be illuminating.
Go M’s! You walking study in existientist crisis!
by sea-townie on Jul 25, 2011 11:46 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
At least Carlos Peguero is still Carlos Peguero
From Mike Curto’s blog:
Yesterday before the game myself, trainer Jeremy Clipperton, and "Performance Specialist" Charlie Kenyon walked out to the worst seats at Spring Mobile Ballpark, for the purpose of measuring the mammoth home run that Carlos Peguero hit on Saturday. Later, during the game, Peguero lost a routine fly ball in the sun and it fell in for a two-out, inside-the-park grand slam. Whoops!

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