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Mariners Beat Up On Pathetic Embarrassing Padres Who Aren't Even A Real Baseball Team

Jason Vargas can really wear a uniform

Even after the off day, I came into this game feeling a little morose about the Mariners. Not so much about the Mariners as a whole - I'm rather excited about all the talent they've assembled for the future - but rather about their chances of contention this season. As much as I know and have always known that 2011 is first and foremost about development, I still got caught up in the present like everyone else, and the Atlanta sweep was more than a little rude of a guest. It forced me to take a critical look at things when I didn't want to take a critical look at things, and I had to acknowledge that, yeah, this probably isn't a playoff baseball team. It's nothing shocking, but it's still unpleasant when considered after a long stretch of believing.

As I was filling out the two lineups for tonight's game thread, I could hear my own brain groaning. The Mariners didn't look good. Dustin Ackley was out. Miguel Olivo was out. Chone Figgins was in. I'm still not quite comfortable with Adam Kennedy, especially at #3. Justin Smoak is slumping. Carlos Peguero is an out-making goof. And so on. And then there were the Padres. As I was writing down the Padres' order, I thought "man this isn't that bad." That is a team with surprisingly decent numbers away from home, and the lineups felt imbalanced. It seemed like the Padres had an advantage, and I couldn't shake the feeling that the M's were in for just another low-scoring loss. Something that would push them even further out of the race than they'd already dropped.

Then the game started. The Padres went down quickly in the top of the first, the M's got on the board in the bottom, and I remembered. "Oh yeah, Padres."

See, it feels like the Mariners own the Padres. It has felt like this for a while. There is no actual truth in the statement that the Mariners own the Padres, since teams are always changing and there's no reason that one team should be given to owning another team just because, but there is value in the perception, because of its effects on one's psychology. As I remembered that this was the Mariners playing the Padres, my spirits were lifted, and as the Mariners stormed out to what proved an insurmountable lead, I had to get up and open the door so that my confidence could soar freely at the heights it desired.

Tonight, the Mariners beat up on Dustin Moseley, because of course they did. Tonight, Jason Vargas threw a complete game shutout, because of course he did. This was just another game between the Mariners and the Padres. Sure, it sucked to watch Atlanta come in and drag mud all over the brand new carpets, but this Padres series is a means back to .500, and .500 is a means back to believing again. The 2011 contention ship may not have sailed yet after all, and it's all because of our reliably beatable friends down south.

A text from my Padres fan friend after the game was over:

Thank you kind sir for the beating you have graced us with

Damn straight.

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I'm not writing bullet points, because I'm kicking off a holiday/anniversary weekend during which I'll hardly be around (notice: don't expect content). But there is one thing I want to touch on, and it happened in the bottom of the third. The Mariners were up 2-0, and they had the bases loaded with Carlos Peguero at the plate. This situation came about because Moseley had walked three consecutive hitters, including Jack Cust to drive in a run. It was Cust's sixth bases-loaded walk of the year, which ties the franchise record. Think about that.

Now stop thinking about that, and think about what happened next. Facing Peguero, Moseley threw a first-pitch sinker. And Peguero swung at it, drilling a two-run single right back up the middle. Suddenly the M's were up by four, which is a massive lead against a team like San Diego in a park like Seattle's.

The conventional wisdom is that you should never swing at the first pitch after a guy walks a few hitters in a row. The conventional wisdom is that you should make the pitcher prove he can throw a strike. Had Peguero made an out, there would've been countless people wondering aloud why he'd done something so foolish in so obvious a spot.

But the conventional wisdom is wrong. Or at least, it's not always right. A hitter's job is to swing at pitches he can handle, and not swing at pitches he can't. Peguero got a pitch he could handle, and he swung at it, nevermind what Moseley had done before. And it paid off.

I don't mean to scrawl too thick an underline below Peguero's single. I don't actually trust Peguero's eye, and for all I know he would've swung at a pitch he couldn't handle, too. But this is less about Peguero, and more about using Peguero to talk about a concept. It is not a bad thing to swing at a pitch after a walk or a handful of walks, provided it's a hittable pitch. Hittable pitches are mashable pitches, and mashable pitches often turn into runs.

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Two other quick notes before I basically check out:

  • Vargas was superb, and he was superb in a few different ways. He began by striking out five of the first eight batters he faced. Then he struck out zero of the next 17. Then he closed the eighth with a pair of swinging strikeouts before working around a single in the ninth. Vargas has now thrown three complete-game shutouts in his last six starts. In the other three, he's allowed 12 runs in 20.1 innings. Do not bet on baseball. Do not ever bet on baseball.

  • Chone Figgins made an excellent diving catch to rob Chris Denorfia in the third, and then he started a beautiful double play in the seventh. He also lined a base hit in the fourth. It's something. A reprieve from all the negativity. I am so far beyond being sick of him that I now want very badly for him to win us all back. It's not going to happen, but a man can dream.

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Well, I'm glad we have Jamie Moyer on the team

without actually having to sign Jamie Moyer.

by Coach Owens on Jul 1, 2011 11:21 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

The funny thing about Peguero's single is that it wasn't even in the strike zone.

We’ve seen Peguero handle those pitches and frankly, he’s probably as likely to square up a pitch away from him as he is one above the belt. You could look at it this way: Moseley was still unable to find the strike zone after walking 3 batters, and perhaps he was just happy he didn’t walk another person.

"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps

by perfectstrat on Jul 1, 2011 11:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I think we ought to stay with the 84 uniform.

Not because of any superstition but because it looks really good out there.

South of the Dome - MAGIC!

by SodoJoe on Jul 1, 2011 11:28 PM PDT reply actions  

So maybe do the vitage logos with the darker blue they use now?

I won Uni Watch’s design a baseball jersey contest with this last year: http://www.uni-watch.com/2010/09/12/and-the-winner-is-2 I think the Ms ought to go with it but then again I’m pretty biased…

better look here

by mkd on Jul 2, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

The new logo actually looks more dated than the trident.

Its recognizably a 90’s design. In flatness of the trident logo is a lot more contemporary. And switching from teal to gold is absolutely mandatory.

by stredarts on Jul 2, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

In Game 7 of the World Series

when Ackley, after three home runs has to leave the game with bruised ribs, and the Mariners trail 4-3, Figgins will be the only one left on the bench, and his seeing eye ground ball single off of Craig Kimbrel with two outs and runners on 2nd and 3rd (Halman HBP, Ichiro single, double steal) will win it. That will buy him until next June.

by _David_ on Jul 1, 2011 11:59 PM PDT reply actions  

My thought on Peguero's swing was that yeah, the previous three batters walked and he just walked in a run That means on this batter he NEEDS to get ahead in the count.

I saw it as a similar thing as green lighting a player to swing in a 3-0 count. Sure the pitcher might try to make a good pitch, but he also might just try to lob one in for a strike.

by BaronVonBullshit on Jul 2, 2011 12:06 AM PDT reply actions  

This was maybe the most 1984-Mariners-Moment of the entire game

Except Guti got grass stains instead of turf marks on his uni, and then they managed to throw out the runner at first anyway.

by J0SER on Jul 2, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Jeff..
I’m not writing any bullet points
Jeff writes more than no bullet points

by plish on Jul 2, 2011 1:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Life isn't fair

Poor Vargas pitches his 3rd complete game shutout, his 4th nine inning shutout, and it’s like, oh yeah, and Vargas pitched a shutout. Honorable mention.

If it was Felix, there wouldn’t be enough superlatives in the English language to capture his performance. If it was Pineda, the amazement over a rookie phenom would be never ending. If he was a Yankee or a Red Sox, he’d be splashed all over ESPN, FOX, and SI.

Vargas has as many nine inning shutouts as Cliff Lee. He has the same number of complete games as Roy Halladay, plus his nine inning shutout.

Pretty amazing for a middle rotation guy. He’s not the same level of pitcher as Felix, Lee or Halladay, but when he’s been on, he’s been awesome.

by PackBob on Jul 2, 2011 3:58 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Padres.

Otherwise, yeah he did very well. Hes developed far better than i expected, same as Fister. But you have to credit the defense amd home park some as well.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 2, 2011 6:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hear ya... and it's a valid point.

But to play devil’s advocate, he didn’t just beat an inferior team in a pitcher’s park, he humiliated them. 7 innings, two walks, two earned runs is a nice performance. 8 innings, one run is considered great. A complete game, no-walk shut-out… now that’s beautiful.

The guy was up against a poor hitting team, pitching in a pitcher’s park, and got some nice defensive help, and he took full advantage of all that and owned the opposition. Other than toss a no-hitter, there’s no way to be better than Vargas was tonight. Zero walks, zero runs, seven strike-outs and it never for a moment felt like he was in any danger of losing complete control of the ballgame. The Padres looked like someone drowning out there, being held underwater by a gorilla. The Padres weren’t just a bad team getting beat, they had zero chance of winning this game. That is why Vargas was so great.

by nucleard on Jul 2, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Vargas has the potential to be as good as anyone.

It seems like consistency is his main issue.

OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!

by bmxnw on Jul 2, 2011 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, actually...

….I think he’s developed. Into a MOR guy, and you expect these type of games in Safeco against a crappy team of hitters like San Diego.

by rtang on Jul 2, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

MOR?

OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!

by bmxnw on Jul 2, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Middle of the Rotation

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Jul 2, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone...

Would develop into a “MOR” guy behind Felix and Pineda.

by wafflesarebetterthanpancakes on Jul 2, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh...

He doesn’t have a lot of velocity and despite his performance, isn’t really a high strikeout guy.
Vargas is clearly a good/great mid rotation starter though. And now that I’ve said that he’s probably going to be tagged for a bunch of home runs during his next start.

by Fearless Frog on Jul 2, 2011 11:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mid rotation

is higher than I expected him to be. Being a back of rotation guy seemed his future—-and a solid back of rotation guy isn’t bad, really. So where he is now seems pretty good to me.

by rtang on Jul 2, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm starting to hope for Zombie Figgins!

Left for dead, he comes back and actually plays productive baseball for the Mariners.

by Easley on Jul 2, 2011 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

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