Mariners Reach Four-Run Victory Threshold; Victory Threshold Raised Above Four Runs
I am a firm believer that, at the end of the season, you shouldn't look back on individual games as missed opportunities. If your team misses out on the playoffs by a game or three, for example, I don't think you should look back on particular games as being the reason they came up short. I don't feel this way because I think it's invalid - obviously, in hindsight, a different result here and there could make all the difference. I just think you'll drive yourself crazy reflecting and mulling. Every team has a bunch of games they probably should've won, and doing this is a great way to send yourself into the offseason mad and dissatisfied.
However, if I did believe in that kind of critical reflection, tonight's game is probably one of those games that I'd look to in the event that the Mariners just missed. I guess the thing about having great run prevention and awful run production is that practically every loss is a game that could've been won with a few different breaks, but tonight's game was especially infuriating. It was especially winnable. I won't go so far as to say the Mariners beat themselves, because the Braves were playing, too, but this one probably shouldn't have wound up 5-4.
Everybody always talks about missed opportunities. This one was littered with missed opportunities. The M's had the bases loaded and one out in the second and couldn't take advantage of a then-vulnerable Tommy Hanson. Adam Kennedy whiffed with a pair in scoring position in the fourth. Justin Smoak committed a run-scoring error on what should've been the final out in the sixth. Kennedy was thrown out during an inexplicable double steal in the seventh. And the final two batters got out with the tying run on second in the ninth.
So many chances. And that doesn't even mention the fact that the Mariners handed Michael Pineda a 3-0 lead that he couldn't hold, in large part because he walked the world in the seventh. I don't want to sit here and criticize one of the biggest reasons the M's are even moderately relevant, but Pineda chose the wrong time to come kind of unglued. And then for the Braves to score the tying and go-ahead runs on a flare and a grounder - I can't decide if that's how teams that blow opportunities ought to lose, or if teams that blow opportunities ought to lose by sudden dingers. There are arguments to be made for both.
I guess you can micro-analyze any game if you want to. At the end of the day, the Mariners lost by one run to the Braves, who are a much better team than the Mariners are. There's no shame in that, and there's no shame in losing a game of ground in the standings when the M's play the Braves and the Rangers play the Astros. A lot of times, you'd expect the M's to lose a game of ground in the standings. But when you watch the game, instead of simply checking the box score when it's over, you see the whole process. And tonight, the process sucked. The M's could've won this game, and it would've been a big game for them to win, but they didn't, and instead of taking solace in the fact that the M's are only three out of first, I'm noticing that the M's are only three out of last.
Bullet holes! I use the exclamation point to show that I'm not taking this too hard!
- For most of the season, Michael Pineda has been the rare kind of young pitching prospect. Not only was he throwing electric stuff; he was throwing electric stuff with good command, which you usually don't see from a guy who's fresh up from the minors. Even though he was young, he was throwing with the polish of a guy with several years of experience.
Tonight, Pineda looked much more like a normal phenom. On the one hand, he was difficult for the Braves to hit. There are a lot of good hitters in that lineup, but 15 of the 40 swings they took against Pineda missed. On the other hand, fewer than 60% of his pitches were strikes. He walked five batters, and while home plate umpire Bruce Dreckman had an inconsistent zone, he wasn't the problem. Pineda was wilder than he usually is, and he really ran into trouble in the seventh when he walked three of the four batters he faced.
Once again, one of the neat things about Pineda is that he can still look all right even when his signature command isn't there, and he looked all right for much of this game. But this was much more like his start against the Yankees, and much less like his start against the Nationals. This was a start that reminds you, oh yeah, he still has a lot of room to grow, which is either encouraging or discouraging depending on your perspective. - Had the Mariners won, one of the heroes would've been Jack Cust. Because they didn't, his performance kind of gets pushed to the side. Still though, making his first start in two weeks, Cust had himself a hell of a game. In the second, he blasted a first-pitch fastball from Tommy Hanson to center over Jordan Schafer's head for an RBI double. In the fourth, he drilled a 2-1 change into right-center for his third home run. And after striking out in the sixth - in a full count - he came up against impossible lefty Jonny Venters in the eighth and and pulled a 1-2 sinker to the track.
If you're unfamiliar with Venters, you may not understand how remarkable that is. Cust didn't only make contact with a 96mph sinker from maybe the best lefty reliever in the game. He pulled the pitch, and he pulled the pitch in the air, nearly tying the score. It was as if Cust condensed his entire rebuttal to the lost-bat-speed argument into one single swing. I don't know how a guy with declining bat speed does that.
It's only one game. Cust isn't "back", and Cust isn't necessarily a weapon. But what this game should do is buy him some playing time, and hopefully he keeps swinging the bat so that we can put our days of Adam Kennedy at DH behind us. - Ichiro finally checked in with his first home run of the season, on a first-pitch fastball from Hanson to lead off the bottom of the first. Even though we've never exactly counted on Ichiro to hit a bunch of home runs, it was still worrisome to see him stuck on zero for so long, especially after we'd seen a few of his power swings result in lazy flies to right. In 2002 he didn't homer until June 6th, but at that point he was hitting .376, so no one cared. This year, we cared. This year we're all hyper-aware of possible signs of Ichiro's decline, so it's good to remove that ugly zero from next to his name. Not that zeroes are ugly. A zero is actually among the more beautiful numbers. But the meaning of the zero was ugly, making the zero not unlike an ex's old painting left in the closet.
- In the bottom of the fourth, with a man on and a man out, Ichiro hit a chopper back to the mound. Hanson wheeled around to gun out Greg Halman at second, but Alex Gonzalez couldn't handle his throw. Just when it looked like Halman would be safe, though, Rob Drake called him out anyway, presumably ruling that Gonzalez lost the ball on the transfer, which he didn't.
Fast forward to the ninth. With runners on the corners and one out, Chipper Jones lifted a lazy fly to right. Ichiro made the catch and threw a strike home in an attempt to gun down a tagging and charging Jason Heyward. Heyward appeared to narrowly beat the tag of Chris Gimenez, but Dreckman called him out, keeping the score 5-4.
Two blown calls, one in each team's favor. The second had a far greater positive impact for the Mariners than the first did for the Braves. I don't know about balls and strikes, but outside of that, it looks like the M's were helped more than hurt by the umpires tonight. - Miguel Olivo had to leave the game in the top of the fourth with cramps. Chris Gimenez came in off the bench. The first pitch he got was a 96mph fastball from Pineda, which blew right past his glove and all the way to the backstop. "Hey Chris, so, forget about the night off. Instead I want you to go squat in front of a guy throwing a hundred miles per hour. And oh by the way his control isn't so good today so be on your toes."
- Gimenez had a big at bat in the seventh, with two on, two out, and the score 5-4. Facing Scott Proctor, he got to 1-1 and then mysteriously tried to lay down a bunt. After taking the next two pitches for balls, he watched a 3-2 fastball clip the upper-outer corner of the zone for strike three. Gimenez went down without swinging, and the inning was over.
It might've been an at bat ripe for criticism had it not been revealed after the game that Gimenez was playing through a strained oblique, and was incapable of actually swinging the bat. Not only does that make Gimenez's sweep tag of Heyward in the ninth all the more incredible; it explains the way he stood there helplessly in the seventh. Instead of being mad at Gimenez, now I'm just in awe of him, to a slightly lesser degree than when Adrian Beltre played through an exploded testicle.
Chris Gimenez came up in a big spot in the seventh. He literally couldn't swing. You can imagine how desperate he felt. He came an inch or two away from drawing a walk. What a weird plate appearance.
Gimenez, by the way, is probably going to need to go on the DL. - In the second, Ichiro darted out of the way of an inside Hanson curveball in the dirt. Ichiro has been hit by only 47 pitches in his entire career, and none so far in 2011. Which is fine - drawing the HBP isn't part of his game. But at a time when so many players around the league make minimal effort to get out of the way of a ball, Ichiro goes to great length.
- With two on and one out in the bottom of the seventh of a 5-3 game, Ichiro - who was standing on second - opted to attempt a double steal, with Adam Kennedy on first and the count 3-0 to Justin Smoak. Smoak took a strike, and Brian McCann made a perfect throw down to second to gun Kennedy out. It was a play that looked bad at the time, and that looks even worse now, given how the game wound up.
Complicating matters is that it was Ichiro's decision, and that Ichiro called it an "obvious" move. I usually try to defer to Ichiro when it comes to plays on the field, but with this one, I can't. I just can't buy it. I'd be willing to be convinced, but if I actually got to talk to Ichiro myself I'm pretty sure my brain would seize.
Derek Lowe and Felix Hernandez tomorrow afternoon as the M's look to salvage the series. I don't know how many more times I can ask Felix to save us before he starts looking for something in return. The Court? Does the Court count as something in return?
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So wait...did Ichiro tell Kennedy he had to steal?
I can honestly live with Ichiro trying for 3rd even though it’s very, very dumb. But Adam Kennedy following to somehow “protect” Ichiro? Fucking moronic.
Well, Kennedy is a pretty good base-stealer
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 29, 2011 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I feel like Ichiro would have made it?
Maybe he thought it was “obvious” because they weren’t holding him so he was able to get a good enough jump to make it easily. Was Kennedy required to go just because Ichiro did?
I get that Ichiro calls the steal "obvious."
Runner on third, less than two outs, hitter’s count, OK, fine.
What I don’t get is why Adam Kennedy makes a dash for second, unless he has a sign from the dugout to do exactly that.
And if Wedge is calling for a double steal with a 3-0 count on Smoak, then I’m speechless.
Hanson seemed slower to the plate than a chained-down anorexic
And so I’d think the standing orders should’ve been “if you get on, steal every bag” for everyone on the team not named Cust or Smoak. But as soon as Hanson was out of the game, that needed to stop: McCann has a pretty good arm (he had a CS rate of 30% last year, though it’s down considerably so far this year) and with a pitcher on the mound with a more normal delivery, guys needed to pick their spots far more carefully. But I wonder if the ease of running from earlier in the game had gotten into their heads, and created some overconfidence.
Ichiro is correct. It was an obvious move.
Unfortunately,
“I had a feeling that Ichiro was going to try and steal third, and we had the right play on throwing down to second and looking at Kennedy,” McCann said. “I knew he was going to go just the way he was set up.”
Well that just reinforces the idea that Wedge called the double steal from the dugout.
Why, so the Braves could IBB Smoak and set up the double play and a L-on-L matchup? I loves me some Ackley and all, but I don’t get it.
I thought it was Kennedy who took off on his own accord when he saw Ichiro take off.
I guess Kennedy was pretty hard on himself after the game.
Be aggressive... B_E_ aggressive
Sometimes I can almost guess what the pregame pep talk is all about.
It is somewhat amusing given the unanimous commentary that the play was a terrible idea that everybody involved expected it to happen.
Ichiro thought it was an obvious move, Kennedy figured Ichiro would be going, McCann figured both would be going.
by drblacknwhite on Jun 29, 2011 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
It seems like taking third was the obvious part.
Ichiro moving up with less than two outs makes sense because then he can score on a sac fly or grounder from Smoak, the part that doesn’t make sense is that Kennedy tried to take second.
Yeah, that was my reaction
In fact, if the “obvious” move was a double-steal and the “obvious” counter was to throw to second to gun down Kennedy, then having Ichiro run with Kennedy just faking it would’ve been brilliant: the throw would go to 2B, where neither runner would be. Kennedy would scamper back to first, and Ichiro would arrive safely on third.
But even a successful double-steal makes no sense: it just leaves first base open, and Smoak was already one ball (intentional or not) away from walking.
Whoever told Kennedy to go — Ichiro, Wedge, or a voice entirely within Kennedy’s head — needs to be reminded: sometimes doing less is more successful than trying to do more.
Props to Giminez
I was a little wierded out by the ‘bases loaded bunt attempts’ but I was thinking.. hey… backup catcher… we expect him to go up and give it a hack. Chipper’s playing back. it could work… Now the final strike makes more sense. Great job on the tag
The Mariners hitters have no killer instinct
They don’t even have a beat ’em up instinct
or even a puppy lick ’em to distraction instinct
or a kill them with kindness instinct.
I have the feeling that opposing pitchers taunt Mariners hitters with opportunities, knowing they are instinctless.
actually I think we distract them with cookies
or raunchy movie cheerleaders. We still lead the league in ‘Reach base by error’ and ‘bases loaded walks’ don’t we? Kind of a passive aggressive intimidation?
"This was a start that reminds you, oh yeah, he still has a lot of room to grow, which is either encouraging or discouraging depending on your perspective. "
He’s 22 freaking years old. How can anything about him possibly be discouraging?
If you expect him to be a demi-god to carry us on his angelic wings to the World Series, you might find yourself discouraged.
Personally, I think he’s adorable.
by SeattleJunkieQueen on Jun 29, 2011 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing is. He isn't perfect or sent here from Outer Space.
His fastball was sailing on him now and then from the 1st inning on. That’s the kind of semi-wildness you expect in a young pitcher. What’s amazing is how he just hasn’t done young pitcher things like this heretofore.
But I think it was bad juju and at least potentially a concentration-breaker that Angie Mentink interviewed him before the game. At some length, with even more than usually inane questions. English is my first language and I would have had no idea how to answer some of that ridiculous shit.
You don’t disturb starting pitchers before they go out to start. This is Baseball Etiquette 101. That was really out of line.
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Or it could be that things that Mathew noticed in his article.
Everybody conspiring to keep Giminez’s CERA numbers lousy.
But seriously, I also think that such interviews before a game to a rookie not comfortable with English is a bad idea. If it was long enough before the game then OK though.
It was ROOT.
she likely interviewed him at BP the day before, to be aired on the day. I believe they have to ask permission before such an interview.
Don't scare me like that.
"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps
by perfectstrat on Jun 29, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of the magic of catchers
wonder if it would have made a difference to Pineda if it had still been Olivo in the game when he got in trouble.
Anyway I like this lineup and hope Wedge sticks with it.
I want to see more at bats for Cust, Halman, and also Carp.
And less at bats for Figgins, Peguero, and Guti now (sorry).
I'm looking forward to seeing Josh Bard in the lineup once or twice a week.
Anything better than replacement level production from him would be a pleasant surprise, but he switch-hits, has a pretty good eye, and still has some pop in his bat. I’m not sure why, but I feel reassured that we have a reasonable chance to win the ballgame when I see Bard playing.
Well, you'll get your chance today.
He’s starting per Greg Johns.
by It's Good To Be King on Jun 29, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
All these shitty feelings and we're still 3 games back.
And I can only be encouraged by the fact that the roster looks better with Dustin Ackley than it does without it. With Michael Pineda part of me is only hoping that he reaches 170 innings completely healthy, still showing the same stuff he’s always had, and gets shutdown. That’s pretty much all I care about in his rookie season because we saw the same sort of mental breakdowns early in the careers of Freddy Garcia and Felix Hernandez. Getting flustered when things don’t go exactly your way. I’m not sure that’s what happened with Pineda last night, but the fact that he’s still got outstanding overall season numbers proves that even at his worst he’s a good pitcher.
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I know this is irrational and stupid and short-sighted and reactionary
But I can’t help feeling like a loss today means the Mariners aren’t going to the playoffs.
Did you see Texas in the world series last year?
That was when I got tipped off.
by Edgar for Pres on Jun 29, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
No, the loss in the first game to the Nationals means the Mariners aren't going to the playoffs
A loss today might help you get past the denial, though
Watching at the park, I thought Gimenez was justified in trying to bunt his way on
He’s not a good hitter and the corner infielders were playing deep. At the least, I figured on strike one he was trying to pull them in to make it easier to get something through the infield. They didn’t move and he tried again. Proctor’s not a great pitcher, but Gimenez is a terrible hitter and had the platoon disadvantage. Even if he wasn’t injured, it made plenty of sense for him to take a shot with a bunt, it’s just too bad he couldn’t get it down.
Even with the fielders playing deep on a successful bunt, I wonder how much chance he had to outrun the throw?
I have never had a pulled oblique, but I would think it would reduce your 90’ sprint speed.

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