Felix to miss All-Star game?

Passan speculates that Felix won't be invited to the allstar game and that Pineda will instead represent the Mariners. What do you think, will they snub the current Cy Young award winner in favor of Pineda?
Also, somewhat related it looks like Ichiro's streak of All-Star appearances will end.

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They might put League in.

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by EequalsMc2 on Jun 21, 2011 5:27 AM PDT reply actions

Does Felix deserve to go in? There have been some pretty strong SP in the AL this season after all.

Personally I think Pauley deserves a shot.

by EnglishMariner on Jun 21, 2011 6:17 AM PDT reply actions

Yes.

5th highest WAR amongst AL starters. 5th highest FIP amongst AL starters. Felix gets in before Pineda.

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by jameslcrockett on Jun 21, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions

3rd in FIP per FG

and tied for fourth in xFIP, with David Price.

by The Ancient Mariner on Jun 21, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions

Corrected...

for some reason, no matter what I do, when I sort by FIP, Verlander and Sabathia both end ranking higher, even though Felix’s is obviously better.

Either way… reigning Cy Young award winner having a great season. He has to go. I’m sure Verlander would get the start at this point because of the no-no, but if Felix had a couple great starts leading up to the game, it would be a great discussion.

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by jameslcrockett on Jun 21, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions

didn't realize that.

Also, the then-reigning AL Cy Young winner, Zack Greinke, was not invited either (although, IIRC, his 2010 season was worse than Felix’ 2011).
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by vj on Jun 21, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions

Send Brendan Ryan.

by Wilder. on Jun 21, 2011 7:54 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Felix has only been an All-star once.

I laughed heartily while I read Passan’s article. They have a players and managers voting, and since “this game counts” there’s no way he’s not picking up a lot of those votes. The Manager also has to see him a lot and probably doesn’t want to give him extra incentive to kick his ass, in what’s looking like a competitive race. All of those signs point to Felix getting there comfortably.

The ridiculous part of his list is he took 6 relievers from the NL and 5 from the AL, including Kyle Farnsworth, Jose Valverde and Chris Perez, but NOT Jordan Walden. There’s your spot for Felix AND Dan Haren right there, though the Angels probably only deserve the 1 player anyway.

As far as his NL team goes, he didn’t take nearly enough position players. He took only 3 1Bs and 6 OFs. He’s forgetting that one of those guys has to start at DH. Unless he’s going to have that DH play the whole game, he’ll need one to replace them, and unless he’s going to put one of his shortstops or Ryan Roberts there, he’d be SOL with that roster. He would need to take Francisco Cordero off his 6-man bullpen (a ridiculous pick in the first place), and replace him with Jay Bruce, Todd Helton, Andrew McCutchen, whoever.

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by jameslcrockett on Jun 21, 2011 9:14 AM PDT reply actions

Ichiro.

By name value, and if he manages to get closer to the league lead in hits, could be one of the player selected by a vote of the fans after the teams are announced. That’s the only way I see him getting in.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 21, 2011 10:32 AM PDT reply actions

If they're doing the "aging player that doesn't deserve to make the All Star team but will anyway" thing

I’d much rather see Ichiro over Derek Jeter, since at least Ichiro is still good.

by SuperDopaLiciousFunkStar on Jun 21, 2011 1:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

Dave speculated that the front office would send Pineda down for the All-Star Game

to get that extra year of service time. I wonder if the front office will (or can) request Washington to not select him.

by Double06 on Jun 21, 2011 11:24 AM PDT reply actions

That was before...

we found out just how good Pineda is at the MLB level. Is there any precedent for sending down a top 10-15 pitcher just to save service time? Wouldn’t the MLBPA just flip out?

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by jameslcrockett on Jun 21, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Didn't think the MLBPA cared much about rookies.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 21, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

I think we'd find out if the Mariners tried to send him down in any way that would cost him service time.

I asked about this precedent, because I really can’t remember any situation like this.

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by jameslcrockett on Jun 22, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions

I guess they're not going to let Pineda pitch any more than he absolutely has to

He’s already about 2/3 of the way to his total IP from last year. He ought to get rested after the break, and maybe skip a start if possible.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 21, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions

The schedule should allow them to do just that.

The way the rotation is set right now, Pineda’s last start before the break will be July 9. They can reset the rotation coming out of the break and, with only 4 games before their next day off, they can skip Pineda’s first start after the break. His next start wouldn’t come until July 23 at Boston.

by atobin22 on Jun 21, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't really care who plays in the All-Star game; I see it more as a status symbol.

Like, “This guy was an All-Star this year”. What they actually did in the All-Star game is irrelevant. Girardi’s justification for choosing Verlander over Felix with the final pitcher’s spot last year was that Felix only had a few games rest before the All-Star game, while Verlander was more rested, so Verlander (who was having an inferior season) gets that awesome AS status symbol next to his Baseball-Reference year, while Felix gets nothing.

I think that’s bullshit.

by SeattleJunkieQueen on Jun 21, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions

It's not just status.

Some players have all star selection bonuses in their contracts. So for some, it’s money they’re not making because of another team’s coaching decision.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 21, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions