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Weekendy OT, June 10, 2011

 

Weekends, weekends. What to do on a weekend.

I assume grilling and beer will be involved?  What kind of grilling? Is there a hibatchi-like grill that doesn't use charcoal and could I afford it?

Of course games will be watched, but what about movies? Section331 mentioned "2012" recently-- any other crap films that demand multiple viewings?

Air-conditioned theatres for Super 8? Has anyone going to anything at SIFF this year?

Physical activities? Not that I personally actually do anything, but I imagine there are those that do.

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There are many small gas grills available

I don’t know what your budget is, but if it’s a small budget, get one of these. We used one in our little apartment (out back of course, not inside) and it worked great.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 9:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Yep. In the past I've used a Coleman propane camping grill

and plan to purchase another soon for my apartment. They run around $25 and can usually handle about four decent-sized steaks at a time. The propane cans are remarkably inexpensive as well, and can usually be found at your local grocer near the charcoal, etc.

by kevin_ess on Jun 10, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

This sounds like an awesome challenge

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by bluemax on Jun 13, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I use a gas grill for all my pizza.

Just find a good stone and get it as hot as you can. It helps if you have a windowed hood to keep you from checking it too often, but it makes some great pizza with the right dough. I use sourdough. http://slice.seriouseats.com/ (search it) and http://www.varasanos.com/PizzaRecipe.htm are where I got my education. Good luck! It can be delicious…even the experiments.

by hairofthedawg on Jun 13, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Small Grill achieved (and on sale! I love Fred Meyer)

Assembled. Propane attached. Leak test performed. Working up the nerve to light the gas.

by msb on Jun 11, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lit the gas.

Found the propane wasn’t quite tight enough.

Matching thumb & forefinger burns later, got it tightened and lit. Man, it is hard to see the flames.

However, there are now garlicky chicken legs smoking up the neighborhood.

by msb on Jun 11, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you need to check a pressure connection

Put soap and water on it with the line charged. If you’re worried about getting the soap/ water mix just right, pick up a bottle of kids bubbles mix. Drip some on the seam.

by Kermit. on Jun 12, 2011 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

The assembly instructions said "perform a leak test" and nothing else.

Turned out if you flipped back to the front of the booklet it did explain how to do it. Not the best-written handbook. I like the idea of the bubble mix; I did just a mix of water and dish soap.

by msb on Jun 12, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a good way to do it. Sometimes people worry about the precise ratio of water and soap

When they worry about it I just suggest the bubble mix, it foams up nicely if there’s a leak. I’m surprised they didn’t get the threads correct. Flammable gases are typically left hand thread.

by Kermit. on Jun 12, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can never say left hand thread without thinking of a dirty limerick

Which reminds me, didn’t there used to be a regular that went by that as a screen name?

by Kermit. on Jun 12, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will always watch at least 5 minutes of it any time its on

Not a crap film, but Die Hard is another movie I always stop and watch if I see it on TV.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm watching it tonight.

I really don’t remember it being horribly bad. Cheesy, but as far as summer disaster movies go I always think of it as a pretty good one. Could mainly be nostalgia though.

by BigR on Jun 10, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was a fun crowded theater movie.

Everyone cheering when famous building explode, dialogue mocking, etc. Kind of like Super Troopers, but less awesome than ST because of Neil Patrick Harris.

by Jed MC on Jun 10, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I understand that it was sort of revolutionary and mind-blowing at the time and it's still like "Hey, great job guys"

It doesn’t change the fact that after 15 years it still looks kind of silly.

Jurassic Park did an amazing job with special effects too. Incredible even. Doesn’t mean we can’t say it looks worse in comparison to what we can do in 2011.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

You takin' crazy pill, humbled fan!

But I guess I just prefer the approaches to effects used in Jurassic Park and ID4 compared to most modern movies. I like the combo of practical and CG effects instead of just straight CG.

by sanford_and_son on Jun 10, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

*pills, hah.

Or maybe just one crazy pill, who am I to judge?

by sanford_and_son on Jun 10, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know that it can look "cartoony" these days if gone wrong. And I appreciate the old school special effects (The Thing for example)

But in ID4, I definitely look at it now and say “Oh, they’re blowing up a model of the White House”

Jurassic Park is still mostly amazing, and sometimes looks very CGI to me.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right, but even when the CGI looks dated, the motions and skins are still awesome.

Compare what they were doing then with CGI to every CGI wolf now, and I’d take the JP stuff every time.

by BigR on Jun 10, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not trying to dog on JP exactly, its awesome. I loved every second of it and at the time I was wowed that I was looking at real dinosaurs.

Doesn’t mean that watching it as an adult doesn’t mean I can’t see those flaws. I’ll say it was WAAAYYY ahead of its time and still ahead of many movies that come out today.

I like the less is more approach that JJ Abrams has been taking.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was agreeing with you and expanding, sorry I misdirected.

I agree, it does have a very imposed CGI look at times. It’s just cool to me that even when it’s not top notch, it’s still good.

by BigR on Jun 10, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

....Starship Troopers you mean.

Super Troopers was that comedy thing with the state troopers.

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by JY on Jun 10, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I sure do.

Super Troopers was great too and it helped that I was living in Vermont when it came out. My wife was working at a local country store, so she knew a lot of cops.

by Jed MC on Jun 10, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Roland Emmerich makes brainless popcorn movies, but unlike Michael Bay, he makes brainless popcorn movies the right. I can watch ID4, laugh at the stupid plot, and still have a good time despite myself.

by Benne on Jun 11, 2011 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even if you don't like the movie..

It has my favorite talentless-yet-hot actress ever in it, Estella Warren. Also seen in the horrible yet awesome Stallone flick “Driven”. Still waiting on the Director’s Cut so they can put the plot back in it, though. (Seriously, they had an extra hour of plot for it, but cut it for the summer movie effect…)

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 13, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Blade and Blade 2 are pretty darn good movies actually.

Cheesy? Sure. But overall, a much stronger set of movies than I was expecting. They are much better than the Underworld movies.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Equilibrium holds this title for me

As long as you can stomach the absolutely excruciating dialogue and plot it has some amazingly choreographed action scenes.

by Drew_D on Jun 10, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buh?!?!

I’ve never seen a list that went:
Blade 2
Equilibrium
Oldboy

Oldboy is my favorite movie of all-time and it’s the opposite of crap.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was just a funny list. I get what you are saying.

Equilibrium is ridiculous. What about Ballistics: Ecks versus Sever?

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I tried to watch that and couldn't get more than 25 minutes in to it

and I’ve seen some bad movies in my day. That, though, was horrible.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh it's pretty much intolerable.

I watched it through once and remember alternating between awe at how well done the action scenes were and cringing at how bad everything else was. I haven’t been able to sit through it since, but if you have it on DVD it’s worth cycling through just for the gunfu fights.

by Drew_D on Jun 10, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

The narrow hallway scene!

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by JY on Jun 10, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite part of that...

remains that, after how realistic the fight scene is all throughout and how grueling it is at times and how exhausted he looks at the end, then you have the elevator.

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by JY on Jun 10, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno what it is about him, but some of the scenes he ends up in are kinda boring.

Ong Bak is like that. There’s a few 100 v 1 fight scenes where I’m nodding off around person 30. The same team did Chocolate, which is like Ong Bak with the added ridiculousness of Tony Jaa being played by a 110 pound autistic asian girl. And it’s better for it.

by Drew_D on Jun 10, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some are so over the top that's it laughable but the pure gymnastic stunts done w/o any assistance

are great to me. Especially since at the time of watching I was so fucking tired of wire scenes. Also, the DVD extras usually contain shots where the stunts go wrong and they’re hilarious. He actually knocks a guy unconscious in Ong Bak

by Matthew on Jun 10, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I absolutely agree with you

It’s not so much about the actual fighting that is impressive, it’s the sheer physical skill that’s required to pull off those scenes.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the sequel, there's a single tracking shot during a stairway fight scene

that’s at least five minutes long. He is noticeably exhausted by the end and I enjoyed that little dose of realism.

by Matthew on Jun 10, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That scene is incredible

Link!

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note: Not a sequel, but any movie with Tony Jaa in it is basically the same exact movie so you're ok in thinking that

I totally agree with you about the stunt work in the movies though. Especially in the first movie, when he’s being chased and they set up a cliched chase scene, complete with guys carrying obstacles and all kinds of silly shit. But to see him run and then jump through a 2 foot diameter coil of barbed wire by going hands and feet-first is unbelievable

by tootthekazoo on Jun 11, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ya uh

That’s like a list that goes:
Revenge of the Nerds
Porkies
Shakespeare’s Othello

by Drew_D on Jun 10, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

A buddy just brought this movie to me yesterday.

I haven’t had a chance to watch it yet, but I’m sure I’ll see it this weekend.

by ToddK on Jun 10, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love Equilibrium.

I don’t care about the free will for all message so much, but the fight scenes are spectacular.

by Kyle Rancourt on Jun 10, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite part is when he folds up that one guy's arm like it was a balloon animal.

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by JY on Jun 13, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shooting Boromir in the face while he reads Yeats was pretty hilarious.

Who's gonna save the world? Who's gonna save the day? From Ahab crabs who steal and eerie eels with evil rays?

by JAH on Jun 13, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm disappointed that its June

and the weather is not good enough for me to go to the beach this weekend.

Also this weekend is the final week of the season, my team the M.C.B.’s will be battling the Momsters (a team comprised entirely of mothers) to see who finishes the season without a win.

Its the kickball equivalent of Twins and Astros!

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

I have a new barbecue sitting in a box in my living room!

Hopefully will get put together and used this weekend. We’re finally getting spring here so it’s fitting.

Probably bust out the snowshoes tomorrow too and go for a ‘hike’.

I was mystified by 2012 as well. So, so bad. A friend of mine rates his movies by how memorable they are though, and holy shit is that movie memorable.

by BigR on Jun 10, 2011 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

You're from Montana right?

My parents just came up from Wyoming and were talking about how the whole state is flooded. How’s that going?

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm west of the divide, so for the most part we're all right.

The other half is fucked though. I was in Yellowstone over Memorial Day weekend and there’s still ten+ feet of snowpack on everything over 7500 ft elevation (most the park). All that drains in to the already flooded Yellowstone and Missouri Rivers. Most snow we’ve had in almost a century, followed by a really wet spring. Horrible combination.

by BigR on Jun 10, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that's what they were saying.

They live at the base (kinda) of Yellowstone in Wyoming, but luckily they are on high ground cause everyone else is out putting up sandbags just in case

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's been the craziest weather year I remember in a long time.

Ski resorts are still open, and it put down six inches of fresh powder in Yellowstone while I was there. We have late snow like this every year, but once or twice normally compared to a couple times a week this year.

by BigR on Jun 10, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

So is anyone else following the WVU football stuff?

Possibly one of the weirdest sports stories of the year.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

No, what's happening?

I started following WVU football back in 2006 because they were good and I really liked their play style. What’s going on? Links?

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by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

The short version

They announced that After this upcoming season Bill Stewart would not be the coach and Dana Holgorsen the OC would take over.

In a strange act of self preservation Stewart and his wife (or maybe just his wife) have been spreading rumors to the media that Holgorsen is a crazy alcoholic man not fit for the job.

Yeah its pretty ridiculous.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well I'll be.

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by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's the SBNation story stream

Link.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

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by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be there!

Originally I was going to be content to watch on TV. Then I found out FSC was broadcasting.

by BrianL on Jun 10, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

FSC is unwatchable. I guess unlistenable is more what I mean.

I can’t feel any rivalry or anger towards Vancouver. It kind of sucks cause I want to go into the game like I did against Portland. Just not happening.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jun 10, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the Sounders draw at home to Vancouver

then I cede any right to talk about Qwest Field in positive terms re: Sounders for the remainder of this season

by Matthew on Jun 10, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ninja Assassin is a favorite crap film of mine.

So awful yet so awesome. I figured The Warrior’s Way would be along the same lines but even with my decidedly low expectations I was still let down.

by Robby The Kid on Jun 10, 2011 10:19 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah Ninja Assassin was a bit better

Warrior’s Way was so slow for most of the movie.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

And it would have been worth it had they actually said the one line from the preview that I really wanted to hear.

In the previews one of the main characters was all “Ninjas… Damn…” and it would have been awesome to hear that in context but, alas, it missed the final cut

by Robby The Kid on Jun 10, 2011 10:48 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hate when that happens

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crap films? I assume we are talking "Popcorn crap films" if we are talking about 2012. I love movies like that and I can watch 15-20 times.

I don’t think its a crap film per se, but I’ve seen Identity probably 25 times and I don’t think it’s that good. I just can’t help but watch it.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm unable to watch about 95% of films more than once. Even if I liked the film.

I just cannot re-watch movies. Hence, I never buy movies. Anyone else find it difficult to watch a film more than once?

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by kentroyals5 on Jun 10, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I very rarely rewatch movies

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only a certain type of film

I can watch many films repeatedly, but there’s a list of One and Dones that I keep, which includes things like

In The Company Of Men (actually, most LaBute films, but this one in particular)
The Ice Storm
Hunger
Requiem For a Dream
Funny Games

All very good films, very well made and acted, but so disturbing I have no desire to see them again. I will absolutely recommend all of them, though. Just don’t have me over to watch them.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's the one I always think of.

I did watch it a 2nd time. And I was like “Wow, I remember why I told myself never to watch this again.” It’s so good though.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have not seen this and am not sure I could watch the whole thing

My tolerance for one-and-done movies is decreasing with age. I’m sure it’s fantastic and well done, but I don’t think I can do it.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

You'll know after 10 minutes whether or not you can handle it.

I’m sure a lot of people turned it off after that.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't bother with "Into The Void" then.

Unless you loooooove druuuuuuuggggz, maaaaaannnnnn.

by sanford_and_son on Jun 10, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm the same way. Most of my favorite movies I've only seen once.

The weird exception to me are Wes Anderson flicks. I rewatch his a lot and almost always enjoy them more the more I watch them. It might have more to do with him creating a style rather than a story.

by BigR on Jun 10, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

On TV/Download I'll watch things multiple times

But it’s the rare film that will send me back to theaters several times. The only one that comes to mind in fact was the first Matrix movie.

by Drew_D on Jun 10, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Either today or tomorrow (they cant say for sure) is the anniversary of the death of Alexander the Great.

Does anyone else think it would be amazing to have lived during this era? If we could travel back in time, I’d love to at least get a camera man out to some of those battles.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Definitely planning on viewing Super 8 this weekend, hopefully at the Pacific Science Center IMAX.

Which is my favorite place to see blockbuster type flicks. That Pac Sci IMAX screen and audio are just jaw-dropping every time, no matter how many times I’ve been there. Cinerama my favorite all-around cinema in Seattle though. Bit more versatile.

The SIFF lineup this year didn’t really have any must-sees for me, which made me sad. Tempted to go see “The Yellow Sea” tonight as it sounds like a pretty good Korean crime saga, but I’ll probably pass.

Also, “2012” was fucking incredible. Nearly 3 hours of the world falling apart due to the earth’s core overheating. Just an unreal and hilariously entertaining pile of garbage.

by sanford_and_son on Jun 10, 2011 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Golf!

I plan on golfing this weekend for sure, rain or shine. I am determined to get my scores into the mid-90s this year.

Also, I get to play whirlyball again this weekend. If you haven’t done it, get 10 friends together and go do it. Best obscure game I’ve ever played

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2011 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

I drive by whirlyball in Shoreline/Edmonds all the time, and have never been in there.

I hear it’s great fun, I should go try it some day.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 10, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn't agree with you more.

If I lived near Whirlyball, I would be in a league in a heartbeat. AND THEY SERVE BEER!

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

What is Whirlyball?

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

With a touch of Jai-alai

Greatest thing ever invented my man.

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

This...this is amazing.

Sucks that the closest one is in CT.

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

When I was in there talking to the owner

for a mere $250,000 you can start up your own Whirlyball location. Not sure where he came up with that number though. Seems like it would be a lot cheaper than that. But I could be wrong

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man I have to find a place that does this in LA

and get all my kick ball buddies to go.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Golf is on my agenda this weekend as well.

Right now I’m debating on whether to regrip my old, but still functional, set of irons or go with a new set entirely. Since I’ve taken up the game again after a very long layoff, I’m hesitant with getting a new set until I rediscover my swing.

Anybody have any advice on whether or not I should go with a new set?

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Regrip first as it's cheaper

Once your swing starts coming around, reward yourself for your persistence with new clubs, but if you haven’t played in a while get back into it with the clubs that are familiar to you before changing them.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have been thinking my clubs might be a little too short for me. ( being 6'2" and all)

Is it expensive to get new shafts put on? Or at that point, should I just get a new set altogether?

I am using a set of used Callaway big bertha’s from 2002 in pretty decent shape.

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have now realized there are many many cheeseball films I have not yet seen.

I have a handful of watch ’em whenever they are wrong films, but I have just realized that they are usually fairly well made.

by msb on Jun 10, 2011 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Just go to

This site, and start working your way through.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a pretty nice grill, but I never use it.

And I very rarely go to the movie theater. I’m supposed to go see the X-Men thingy tonight, though. I agreed to go if I can have sushi beforehand. In other words, I’m a super fun party animal.

by royalcurve on Jun 10, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd like to see the X-Men thingy, but I can wait for my sofa.

Super 8, however, I think I need to see before spoilerage.

by msb on Jun 10, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Scrabble people

what’s the most points you’ve ever scored on a single turn? last night I scored 101 points – my rack contained ANTIQUE and I played it across a triple word score, off of an M so I had MA going across and ANTIQUE going down into the corner. I was ridiculously happy about this.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't remember what the score was

But I’ll never forget the best word I’ve played: QUIXOTIC. The ‘O’ was on the board and somehow the rest of the letters were lined up perfectly on my rack, or else I’d have probably never seen it.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's amazing

I love when stuff falls into place like that.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

It rarely happens, unfortunately.

Usually I’ll have an amazing word that I want to use, but I’ll be missing one letter, or the one letter I need will be boxed in somewhere, or I have all the letters I need but no open places to put it. Then I’ll end up getting frustrated and have to end up putting out some crappy four or five-tile word.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

What're letters that always seems to bog you down?

For me, it’s either C or V. If I get them near the beginning of the game, I either have to waste a turn with a small word or hold on to ’em for a lot longer than I know I should.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

In addition to C and V

K is one that I always try to maximize, and yet end up holding on to far too long.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I draw a K, it seems that 90% of the time I'll end up playing KALE

For some reason, there’s always two or three words that I use nearly every game.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

C always bites me in the ass

because I leave it too late and there really aren’t any two letter words that have C in them that I’ve found.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

QAT is a good example.

Karma has deemed that if I draw a Q, I’ll never have a U to go along with it.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good one.

It’s always nice to have those 2,3, or 4 letter words that use the Q,J, & Z memorized. RAZE is another one that I seem to always throw out if I draw a Z towards the endgame.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was once able to pull off TORQUE.

I’m super proud of that moment.

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by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

111 points for Croze

Yeah that pissed my sister off a lot

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is a great wiki page on Scrabble Points distributions for different countries.

Its right here
Funny how different languages use different letters. So many vowels in the Italian language.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll play anybody

I was pretty disappointed to see that my stellar record was tainted by a few canceled games late last year when the app was having major problems with bugs. But, clean slate and I’m ready to play

by tootthekazoo on Jun 14, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, that's some cheap shit

Send me an invite, or give me your name so I can set up a game for us

by tootthekazoo on Jun 15, 2011 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't remember specifically, but I'm pretty sure I busted out a 8 letter word using all 7 of mine and 1 existing on the edge to get to triple word scores on the same word.

Wish I could remember what it was.

In other news, my iPad Scrabble keeps track of my best word and it’s currently 70-something for TUX (I only started playing in the last month or so). This bums me out, because TUX is a shitty word, and prior to this my best was slightly fewer points but for RECLAIMS, which I like better.

by HititHere on Jun 10, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

126.

On a real scrabble board, I got “Acquired” and it spread over two triple words.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jun 10, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

This made me go check Ustream for the Shiba Inu puppy cam

and I found this url in my history.

Aww

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is adorable.

I love kittens, and wish I had one myself.

"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps

by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be putting the door and finishing touches on my shed, including finally placing my bikes, and stuccoing the windows I put in last weekend!

Other than that, I use my grill for just about everything for the summer, because I hate heating up my house with the stove. I also don’t have AC in my kitchen, so that doesn’t help any.

Grilled caramelized apple mashed into an ice cream topping is the best thing ever thought of, I found last night. I’m trying peach on Sunday, and I expect it to be as good if not better.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 11:12 AM PDT reply actions  

No physical activities here.

About to get my hip labrum repaired so I can’t run or jog or really do much of anything. Comt to think of it I should really just grill up some juicy burgers. Anyone ever recover from a labral tear in their hip? Hints on what I’m in for?

by Shmelix Shmernandez on Jun 10, 2011 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Film - Birdemic

Activities – I’m thinking of taking up White water paddle boarding.

Grilling – Cheap Propane grill.

2 of my buddies got into SIFF this year

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 10, 2011 11:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I think I've seen Birdemic 5 or 6 times in the last 2 weeks.

Once with Rifftrax (which are equally amazing)

Rifftrax:
Little Girl: “I’m afraid the birds will bite me”
Mike Neslon: “Awww… birds don’t have teeth you stupid idiot”

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Prompt -- Flash mobs!

You get your fair share of flash mobs here in San Francisco. Some are really well done, and others…leave a lot to be desired. When you see a good one though it’s a lot of fun. This one was right on my commute to work, and though I didn’t catch it live, the video is very well done. What flash mobs have you seen live or on video that you really liked?

"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps

by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Flash mobs:

Excuses for large groups of people to act like dorks and not feel like dorks because they’re acting like dorks with a bunch of other dorks.

I don’t get it.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 10, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

None

Every flash mob I’ve seen was awful and stupid.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I saw this really bad one on youtube recently by aTm

and it just made me feel sad for everyone involved.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Jun 10, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although I do love the AT&T commercial

about the guy who gets his text about the delayed flash mob just a bit too late

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That commercial drives me fucking insane though

He opens an email that contains a pdf attachment, and once the pdf loads and displays on his phone it says that the ‘mob was moved to 12:30 from noon. Why couldn’t the email have just said that on its own? What’s the point of attaching a pdf to an email just to give a message that the email itself could have given?

by tootthekazoo on Jun 11, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Living for the Weekend

Grilling and Beer: Hard to grill in an apartment building without setting the entire block on fire. When I do finally get a house with a backyard, my first purchase will be a Big Green Egg. On the beer front, I recently tried Abita Strawberry Harvest Lager. I hate strawberries and strawberry-flavored anything but this was really, really nice.

Crap Films: Aside from all B-movies, every time I see Only the Strong on TV, I’m parking my ass on the couch and watching it until the end.

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2011 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuck me

From Divish:

Ichiro out of the lineup, Figgins leading off #Mariners

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

HA!

What if this works?!?

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 10, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be honestly shocked.

Frankly, I’m surprised Wedge decided to put Figgins up there. Not that he has a lot of other options though.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ackley is an option :(

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Jun 10, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's been how it goes.

If a player is called up, I don’t write about them anymore. I get to enjoy them (like Pineda!), but I don’t actively write about them.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Jun 10, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this team is more depressing than 2010 in some ways.

It would be easier to accept all the failure if we weren’t winning. But there are just so many disappointing black holes and it’s hard to just switch off and stop caring. It hurts that Ichiro is bad.

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's okay you guys.

This is going to be Figgins’ big sendoff. Let him bat leadoff once more for old-times sake, then take him out behind the woodshed.

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per Divish:

“Technically Ichiro isn’t in the starting lineup for this game, but it’s raining pretty hard here, what happens if it gets cancelled.” This is a sign.

by Drew_D on Jun 10, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm glad I don't live in Tennessee
A new Tennessee law makes it a crime to “transmit or display an image” online that is likely to “frighten, intimidate or cause emotional distress” to someone who sees it. Violations can get you almost a year in jail time or up to $2500 in fines.

Tennessee law bans posting images that “cause emotional distress”

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2011 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

No but he's right, it could go that way very quickly.

You could debate about what the court would rule in light of its recent rulings. It’s definitely leaning more one way than the other politically.

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I REALLY don't want to get into it.

Just wanted to say that I had the same initial reaction: “The Supreme Court is not political.” But I think you could very very easily veer into that.

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get that and I appreciate the intentions, but the way it reads, and considering the people involved,

it just comes across as overly motherly and that kind of irks me. If someone accidentally strays too far into politics, I have every confidence that those here can keep things on track. And I’d hate to reach the point where we don’t allow common sense to be expressed because we have to protect against somebody inferring something stupid out of it.

Which isn’t to say community policing is bad, but preemptive policing would personally get on my nerves if it kept happening.

by Matthew on Jun 10, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Seems like the article thinks the law won't stand.

I’ll admit I don’t even know what they were intending, it’s so vague.

by HititHere on Jun 10, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

This reminds of the story I read about Human Centipede 2

Apparently the British version of the MPAA decided to just ban the movie altogether, rather than asking for edits.

by Lanky on Jun 10, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time for Jerseys!

It’s about time I bought my first Mariner jersey. I’m thinking a Justin Smoak Replica, but I could also get a Michael Pineda Replica. I’m definitely going replica because I don’t want to shell out $250 for an authentic, but I’m a bit concerned with the display on Mariners.com. The lettering/numbering isn’t actually that bad, is it?

I want to be engulfed in M’s gear when I travel to Safeco for the first time in five years in August. What’s better yet, they’re playing the Red Sox! If the USSM/LL event is on August 14th, I will love you all forever.

"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps

by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

It's not that bad.

I have a Felix replica, and while it’s not 100% full of awesomeness like he is, it still looks pretty good.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 10, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a question for you guys.

Is it considered cheesy if a person gets their own name on the back of a jersey (Ess, Ess Jr) and moreover, is it cheesy to do that for an authentic practice jersey?

by kevin_ess on Jun 10, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's just one opinion.

I’ve never liked people getting their names on jerseys.

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I concur.

Unless the team gives it to you with your name on it, I’m not a fan.

That and it always leaves me wondering who a #13 Gibbons was and where he played.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you get number "00"

I wouldn’t say it’s cheesy. But if you went with “Ess” above a “34” I wouldn’t like it very much. If you’re going to wear the number of a player, have that player’s name there.

"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps

by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would wear a 00 "COCO-KILLER" jersey.

Wouldn’t pay much money for it, but I’d wear it because fuck Coco Crisp.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I personally have no objection to this.

Just don’t get too cute with it. My wife and I have Seahawks #12 jerseys with our names on the back.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 10, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then get it. You asked for opinions and got a few. You don't have to listen to them.

Do what makes you happy, and don’t worry about what anyone else thinks.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Haha

I guess I just wanted a general opinion, but figured I’d give mine as well.

by kevin_ess on Jun 10, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough, I read (past tense) too much into it.

Back to the odd phrases discussion, read/read always kills me while communicating in text.
Anyone have any ideas for replacements? I’m drawing a blank at the moment.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Put a word in between "I" and "read"

like “I did read too much into it” and that will help clear up any confusion.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, clutter.

“did” reads too hick, and “had” reads too haughty, and I can’t think of too many others that don’t fall into one of those classifications.

I hoped I was just missing an obvious word.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree

They didn’t retire your name, they retired OUR name. By putting your last name on the back of the jersey you are putting yourself above the rest of the 12th man.

by Robert on Jun 10, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you can put "FAN".

But I really don’t think customizing it takes anything away from the meaning.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 10, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely cheesy.

My personal rules:

1.) No personalized jerseys.
2.) No wearing jerseys of players that have departed your team for a different team. A team legend and/or favorite player that retired as a member of your team is acceptable.
3.) Don’t wear alternate-alternate jerseys (this mostly applies to football – particularly those black Seahawks jerseys with the green borders around the letters. As ugly as the green jerseys are, at least those were actually worn once)

I don’t own a Mariners jersey (never actually have, in fact. Never been one to wear baseball jerseys), but these rules guide my NFL jersey purchases (and, once upon a time, NBA jersey purchases as well). I generally find my favorite jerseys to be those of retired favorites. for Seahawks games, I wear a Cortez Kennedy jersey.

I also find myself generally annoyed by #12 jerseys, whether they’re personalized or just say “FAN” on the back.

Related: Anybody know where to find a throwback-style Mack Strong jersey? He’s my all-time favorite Seahawk, but I’m holding out to find a throwback. I’ve seen exactly one in the last 4 years of season-ticket holding, and it was clearly a jersey that was purchased in the 90s. I’m losing hope.

by thelog727 on Jun 10, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm also going to Safeco for the first time in many years this August!

I want a new jersey as well, and have wanted a Felix jersey for a couple years now. It’s hard not to be tempted by Smoak or Ackley, but I’ve gotta get a Felix one first.

by BigR on Jun 10, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if this has been answered but the replicas are pretty much the same as the authentics looks wise.

It has cheaper material and doesn’t have the MLB logos where they are on the authentic jerseys but a lot of the time you can’t tell the difference. They are way better than they were back when they were just navy numbers with no outline.

by Mariner John on Jun 14, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really wouldn't say they look pretty much the same.

I have one of the teal Cooperstown Collection jerseys from last year which has replica qualities, and several authentics, the lettering and the stitching for the letters are just so much better for authentics. It really comes down to if it is worth the price difference for you.

by Patrick Stites on Jun 14, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get a full day off with nothing to do for the first time in 6 weeks Sunday!

I was thinking of going for a nice run then heading out to see Super 8 because that movie has really intrigued me. On the other hand a chance to do absolutely nothing but sleep, snack, nap, drink beer and watch tv sounds good too.

Anyone else ever get torn on what to do with a precious day off after a long string of work days?

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Jun 10, 2011 12:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I have a weekend next weekend and I have no idea what to do with the Sunday.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Jun 10, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gotta say I'm impressed with Simmons' Grantland website

There’s some pretty good stuff on there, like this article about the short, sad history of The National. I remember when that thing started, I was so excited that there would be a great daily sports paper, and so bummed when it didn’t work out.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm just surprised he got that domain name before some college grant searching site did.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am too.

I wasn’t sure what to expect, but it’s been very good so far.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 10, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there any interest in starting a new BMO league?

I find myself with more time on my hands than usual lately. I played last year when we had a couple leagues going, and it was a lot of fun.

by nemo1 on Jun 10, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Robert was asking about it the other day.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm interested.

I think we went about six years last year until a bunch of people jumped ship. Is the starting date still going to be 2008?

"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps

by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The more accurate it gets the less fun it in large groups.

There are ways around signing younger players to long term contracts before they hit their FA year.

by Robert on Jun 12, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The workaround is to sign them to long-term contracts when they're still young so you get a discount

But the cost is so prohibitive it still renders it impossible to succeed with a small market team.

I’m hopelessly bitter at the time I wasted. I’ll keep any further opinions about BMO to myself.

by HititHere on Jun 13, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't that still pricey? I mean, more pricey than league minimum

Maybe that works for mid-market teams but not teams that are staring at $60 mil total revenue. Small market teams gotta get value out of developing talent for league-minimum prices.

by HititHere on Jun 13, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.

I can see how it would be fun with other teams.

by HititHere on Jun 13, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I played as Pittsburgh last year and had a lot of fun.

Not much success, but fun for sure.

That said, I plan to take a bit larger market team this go around if we get another league going.

by nemo1 on Jun 13, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Pitt has a smaller revenue than Cincy, even.

Pitt, Cincy, KC and the Brewers seem to be bring up the caboose in terms of revenue. Don’t know how the Brewers survive, their revenue is $15 mil lower than the next worst market.

by HititHere on Jun 14, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Russell Brand was funny for about 8 minutes

but he’s a one trick pony. Steve Coogan is a complete genius, especially when Winterbottom is directing him.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw this at SIFF.

Exceeded my expectations. I can’t remember the last time I saw a movie that felt so effortless; it didn’t need a plot, or a script, or more than half a dozen characters.

untimely baseball writing @ the playful utopia & notgraphs

by Patrick Dubuque on Jun 10, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't want to overdo it

so I figured I’d wait a couple of weeks before moving it to the top of the netflix queue. I’ll probably get it next.

untimely baseball writing @ the playful utopia & notgraphs

by Patrick Dubuque on Jun 10, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

iTunes help?

Anytime I open up iTunes and connect my ipod, the program freezes. Thoughts? Ideas?

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

More details

OS?
iTunes version?
iPod generation?
How long has this been happening?
Anything significant change on your machine between when it last worked and now?

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alright

OS – XP
iTunes version – 10.3.1.55
iPod generation – iPod Touch 2nd gen
Just started happening today
No significant changes that I can think of

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

What do you do once it freezes?

Do you just kill iTunes, or restart your whole system? Also, try connecting your iPod, and if it freezes, kill iTunes but don’t disconnect your iPod, then restart iTunes.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you plug in the iPod, iTunes scans the iPod for music right?

Could be a corrupted music file on the iPod itself. Maybe there was a new one you downloaded that is causing a problem.

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cleanse your computer with fire.

Seriously though, try updating iTunes if you haven’t. Perhaps a clean scratch install (uninstall/reinstall).

by BrianL on Jun 10, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have the newest version.

I’ll try the uninstall/reinstall. Ugh.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go back to your previous iTunes version.

This same thing happened to me last time I updated iTunes. I went back one version, and everything was fine.

by LonelyintheBleachers on Jun 10, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've run into this problem on iTunes updates before.

I’ve read that the problem is corruption in the library caused by the update. Few times I’ve had it, doing a scratch install of itunes and dumping everything back into the library fixed the problem.

by BrianL on Jun 10, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is just a guess though.

Heck, I saw this once on a friend’s computer and plugging the iPod into a different USB port solved it.

by BrianL on Jun 10, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

USB ports in particular are weird.

It’s not unusual for something broken about a port to transfer to other ports if you aren’t careful.

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by JY on Jun 10, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noted.

Just seems odd since the only real difference is a different port ID. As far as I understood them anyway.

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw three movies at SIFF this year

One was excellent (The Trip), one was sort of charming but not actually funny (Pinoy Sunday), and one was excruciating (A Thousand Fools). The best part of the last one was a scene where they rip off a forty year-old Dennis Moore joke from Monty Python.

Nothing quite like watching RoboGeisha last year, though.

untimely baseball writing @ the playful utopia & notgraphs

by Patrick Dubuque on Jun 10, 2011 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

New Coffee Sub-Thread

What was the best coffee shop experience you ever had? Why was it great? This stems from a conversation I had with a friend about why my favorite Bay Area coffee shop Red Rock was so good.

Red Rock serves good coffee, ok espresso, and terrible chai, but has the best “coffee house” atmosphere of any of the shops I’ve been to down here. I know a yogurt shop near my office that serves better coffee for cheaper ($1.50 for fresh ground single serving french press!), but Red Rock wins on the combination of quality and feel. The shop is always bustling and they run open mic nights, local music, and other events that give the shop a great community feel. Our only real criticism is that it can be a laptop garden on weekends. If coffee isn’t your thing, what about a watering hole? What about it made it so great?

by Drew_D on Jun 10, 2011 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

In Guatemala I got a cup of coffee at a little store in small mountain town.

I was expecting nasty coffee but it was the best cup of coffee I’ve ever had in my life. I’m not sure if it was the surroundings, the fact that the beans were probably grown behind the store, that I was surprised by the taste or if it really was the best coffee ever. Either way I’ve never had a better cup since.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Jun 10, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate coffee shop atmospheres with a passion.

Most of the time it’s nothing but a bunch of postgrads typing away at their comparative lit dissertation while shitty vaguely-folkish alternarock plays in the background. I always grab my coffee to go.

There is a Greek coffee house in my area that doubles as a restaurant/bar that I love going to. It’s about the only place I’ll stick around and enjoy my coffee.

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I find that every Greek food establishment I've been to has figured it out.

The Continental, in the U-District, being the best one for sure. Also Costa’s, Georgia’s, Grecian Corner… all are awesome places. Really craving some baklava right now.

by Mataya on Jun 10, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

They definitely have different atmospheres.

The people at the Continental get to know a lot of their customers it seems, and I really like that in a little restaurant like that. The live music on weekends definitely helps too… I don’t know if I’ve seen any at Costa’s. That being said, you can’t go wrong with either.

by Mataya on Jun 11, 2011 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Breakfast is a really frustrating meal for me to eat out.

There’s only so many ways you can cook eggs and potatoes. I found this particularly frustrating when I was in Hawaii, and ended up just having fresh fruit and coffee in the coffee every day.

Anyways, I had a skillet at Costas, and it was awesome. It was done really well and it was one of the few actually memorable breakfasts I’ve had.

by BigR on Jun 11, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a coffee person, and in the grown-up and even college world I find that it's an uncommon trait.

Everyone will always ask me if I want coffee or something from Starbucks, and I always turn it down…

"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps

by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

So then what was a great bar experience?

What I was trying to get at was what do you look for in a spot to kill time, regardless of whether or not it’s necessarily coffee. What things about such a place are real pluses for you.

by Drew_D on Jun 10, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm 18, so I can't be in a bar.

I’m a pretty busy guy, and I don’t have time to kill very frequently. When I do, I play tennis or browse LL, and there isn’t one “hangout” I find myself in frequently.

I’m not the best person to answer this question.

"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps

by perfectstrat on Jun 11, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coffee's sole purpose is to wake me back up if I slept for three hours or fewer the night before.

Other than that, I’ll stick to juice or soda or water.

I write for Stumptown Footy, SB Nation's Portland Timbers blog.

by thehemogoblin on Jun 10, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a great coffee shop in my area called The Global Bean

Fantastic (albeit a little expensive) coffee, a nice selection of global wines, a rotating selection of good beers, wi-fi, comfortable seating, mellow music in the background. And almost every night there’s local musicians (piano and jazz mostly) that they book to play.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 10, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

As far as Seattle goes...

There are so many good coffee shops in this town that listing them all would take an hour. For coffee before/after Mariners games, though, Zeitgeist Coffee is my recommendation. It’s close to the stadium (one block north of the Qwest Field parking lot), has great coffee, plenty of tables, reliable WiFi, and the building it’s in has giant windows so you can occupy yourself with people-watching.

by enguy on Jun 10, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blue Bottle in SF is very good.

As is Royal Coffee in Oakland. Both are tiny and excellent. Granted, I haven’t been to either in about 7 years.

by royalcurve on Jun 11, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think so.

I find Bruce Willis’ bravado more enjoyable in his old age. I think I would probably hate him back then.

by Lanky on Jun 10, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hudson Hawk is by turns insufferably bad and unbelievably intentionally hilarious

because it’s Bruce Willis at the peak of his Moonlighting-driven fame, being his typical smartass self except waaaaaaay more so. And he plays the harmonica.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hudson Hawk was my favorite movie for a bit when I was younger.

Come to think of it, Bruce Willis is the man.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bruce Willis is the man now

but back then he was denim-short wearing Andre Agassi – all mouth and no game.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Walken is out of control in that one.

Also, it’s a really crappy remake of “Yojimbo”/“Fistful of Dollars”.

by sanford_and_son on Jun 10, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grilling Subtopic: Burger Condiments

How do you typically top your burger?

I like to keep mine simple: a couple of grinds of black pepper and a bit of mayo.

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2011 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I top mine with black pepper and cheese

but I also make my patties by putting a pound of hamburger in a big bowl, adding in a few dashes of Worcestershire sauce, a generous squeeze of yellow mustard, and a couple spoonfuls of relish. Mix all together and make patties and grill and YUM.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to do something similar with powdered mustard.

I tried working cheese into the mix, a bit of light cheddar, but the patties lost their cohesiveness and would frequently fall apart. Relish seems like it would work better for the consistency.

As for toppings, ketchup, mustard, pickle, sometimes onion.

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by JY on Jun 10, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Relish actually works really well and adds a nice flavor

I don’t usually like pickles, but relish mixed into a burger is really nice.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

With everything else, but the exact proportions I can't recall, it wasn't too much though.

Now that I stop to think about it, it likely would have worked had I used a finer grate and not the larger one I’m accustomed to using. Du-hurrr… But I haven’t made them in probably three or four years, due to lack of grill/time.

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by JY on Jun 10, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You ideally want to grate to about the same size and consistency as what you'd find in bagged shredded cheese.

Next time you make them, make sure you allow them to rest in the fridge for at least an hour; it’ll give the meat/cheese time to set so that they won’t fall apart when cooking.

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good advice, thanks.

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by JY on Jun 10, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I'm making mine on the kitchen range, I'll usually add a few dashes of HP Sauce to the mix.

I usually don’t add much in terms of seasoning to burgers on the grill though; I prefer the subtle natural charcoal flavors to anything I could add to the meat prior to cooking.

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of the same,

But I like to knead in different ingredients as well – perhaps some diced bacon, chopped pepperoncinis, cubed pepper jack, etc.

by kevin_ess on Jun 10, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Homemade burger?

Everything. Ketchup, mustard, mayo, pickles, tomatoes, RED onion (if possible), lettuce, cheese.

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by Thingray on Jun 10, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I keep it relatively simple.

Ketchup, Tomato, Lettuce, Onion, sometimes Bacon.

Black pepper does sound nice; I’ll have to try that sometime.

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by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I usually top my burger with another burger. And cheese.

And I almost always use turkey meat.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 10, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I've done the turkey burgers before and they are very tasty.

The only problem I’ve had is keeping the ground turkey from falling apart when making patties. Do you mix anything in with the turkey to prevent this? Or is this just a problem I have?

by atobin22 on Jun 10, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a few favorites.

I’ll either stuff it pre-cooking with tiny bits of blue cheese or cheddar, then top with ketchup + mustard or peanut butter (Jif, on the top bun) and bacon that I sprinkled with brown sugar before baking. The best burger I have ever had, however, had none of that. Giant Burger on MacArthur in Oakland (I’ve mentioned this before) is my favorite buger of all time. Baon, chopped lettuce, ketchup, mayo, tomato. Perfect fries (and tons of them), and a house blended strawberry Coke. Sigh.

by royalcurve on Jun 11, 2011 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Clarification -

The cheese stuffed burger is a different burger than the peanut butter + bacon.

by royalcurve on Jun 11, 2011 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hell yes!

That’s my go-to burger anytime I go to Red Robin.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 11, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just ate at Red Robin this evening.

Granted we don’t have a lot of good burger places where I live, but they make a damn good burger.
I’d take it over five guys any day.

by BigR on Jun 11, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ketchup

Occasionally mayo or whatever house sauce there is. I like my burgers unadulterated by vegetables.

by Mariner John on Jun 14, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, right? :(

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by JY on Jun 10, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well then here's a new prompt so you can think of more foods!

What’s your weekly lunch palate like? I try to have two sandwiches, a burger, an asian cuisine, and a new place a week during my lunches. I almost never make my own lunch, though if I did I’d cut a large part of my food budget. Do you have a specific food you need to have on a certain day (beyond medication, if necessary)?

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by perfectstrat on Jun 10, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm 95% "whatever was leftover from dinner" for lunch.

Or sometimes my wife is very sweet and will make me a yummy sandwich.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 10, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I usually make something or leftover it,

but every other Friday I give myself the treat of the very horrible for you mall teriyaki chicken.

Granted, the place by me is much better tasting than most I’ve had in all the places I’ve lived, but it’s probably just as bad for you.

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by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not quite a hamburger, but the best I could do out of the pantry.

Trader Joe’s chicken patty on Oroweat sandwich thins, with a little basil mayo

by msb on Jun 10, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck SIFF!

It just happened to be in the area I was trying to park in, and Cap Hill is hard enough finding parking on a regular day.

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by JAH on Jun 10, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

In less hostile about parking in Seattle news, just got back from Super 8.

Liked it a lot. I won’t spoil it for anybody, but it was sorta like watching a cross between Jurassic Park and E.T. The main character kids didn’t even annoy me!

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by JAH on Jun 10, 2011 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought it was Super Great!

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by JAH on Jun 10, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The story, the movie making plot, the kids performances....all top notch.

For me, the creature played second fiddle….or least it was just a device to keep moving the story forward. I just wanted the kids to make their movie.

But overall, I loved it. Big fan of sci-fi movies that tie in a good emotional story.

Seeing it at the PSC IMAX made the train wreck absolutely terrifying.

by sanford_and_son on Jun 13, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree completely.

It got to where the creature was kind of an annoyance in the movie, and became glaringly obvious when they had no idea what to do in the ending.

by the other side on Jun 13, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the ending was a bit simplistic, for sure.

I especially like how Joe’s dad aka Coach Taylor was just a huge dickehead to his son the whole movie and never apologizes once. Just says “I got you” when they reunite. FATHER OF THE YEAR RIGHT THERE!

by sanford_and_son on Jun 13, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was one of those movies that, if you grew up in the 1980s, it will probably resonate with you a lot more.

It was a great movie regardless but the setting, along with the nods and winks to the great sci-fi movies of that era, made it a lot more enjoyable.

by ThomasG on Jun 13, 2011 6:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Resume question!

So after getting promoted yesterday, I decided it would be a good time to update my resume, since it hasn’t been done in forever. So my question is, how should I list my new position in my work history?

For example, in one section I have(paraphrasing) “Surveillance Observer-Sidney’s Casino July 2004-August 2007 ect.” And then “Security Officer-Shoalwater Bay Casino September 2007-January 2008 ect.” and lastly “Surveillance Observer/Tech-Shoalwater Bay Casino February 2008-Present”.

In updating that, should I just list a new entry as “Surveillance Supervisor-Shoalwater Bay Casino June 2011-Present” or should I just change the title of the last entry? Which would be more effective?

RIP Dave Niehaus.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2011 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Congrats!

And, I don’t know. But congrats!

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did the second (changed the title) as well.

I’m looking forward to seeing what answers you get from people that actually know something about resumes.

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by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

List a new entry

Personally, when I’m reviewing resumes of prospective hires, one thing I want to see is progression within a company; it usually means that another business values your ability enough to move you up the corporate ladder, so to speak.

Congrats!

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you see the constant breaking of years, so that it looks like you've held multiple short jobs instead of one single job, it's going to look worse and be longer.

He can always explain the promotions in the accomplishments beneath the job if he wants, but breaking it down into smaller roles and including past achievements that may no longer be important or impressive when compared to others would be much less likely to help him get a job.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jun 10, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes and no.

I guess it really depends on the format of your resume, the field you’re in, and the differences in job function.

For example, in my job the supervisor role is so markedly different in job function and skillset from the entry-level position that it requires two separate entries to fully encapsulate the responsibilities. In Goose’s case, the difference might be negligible, so he could lump them together.

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, but that's only useful if you have interesting accomplishments that are more likely to get you a job.

Most entry level jobs don’t have that – at least none that can’t be easily placed under the supervisory role. Resumes should be focused towards achievements even more than simply responsibilities, so even if your tasks are different it shouldn’t matter in general. In addition, rarely do people apply for jobs with a resume that needs to highlight their less impressive jobs. I don’t put Fred Meyer Cashier on my resume, for example, because even though I had a lot of responsibilities there – even broke cashiering records for Washington state – no job I apply to is going to care that I was a cashier, when I’ve been a copywriter and research assistant since (both of which are presumably more impressive to a job). If I was applying to a job as a cashier, sure, but that just highlights the importance of tailoring resumes to different types of jobs, rather than the idea that everything one does in the past deserves to be on a resume.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jun 10, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Noted.

Thanks for the answers guys.

RIP Dave Niehaus.

by Goose on Jun 11, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, so they're all at the same place?

You should have only one entry for your entire time at the workplace, listing your accomplishments below it regardless of the job title you held when you created those accomplishments. The less impressive the role, the less necessary it is on a resume. Also, it’s much more impressive to have a single great role from 2004 to 2011 than it would be to break it out into smaller chunks.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jun 10, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, they're two different places.

I worked(started out) at one casino doing one job for a little over 3 years. Then I went to another casino and took the security job as a way of getting my foot in the door.The Surveillance job wasn’t open at the time of my interview, but the Manager promised me the job once it came open, so once it did I transferred

Depending on the situation when I decide to go somewhere else, I may still likely include the Security part on my resume, just because being a Surveillance Observer means being able to know the rules/regs of every department in a casino, not just your own, and I would imagine my having that Security experience would show I know those rules first hand, instead of just knowing them out of the departmental IC’s.

But point taken.

RIP Dave Niehaus.

by Goose on Jun 11, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

BrianL!

Yesterday you asked about photography, and today there’s this Lifehacker post. Not everything you need to know between the two posts, but some solid tips and utilities.

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by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 5:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I've been fighting the feeling of "worst LL commenting pool ever" based on what I thought wasn't that bad.

But I just can’t do it anymore.

It’s time to bring back the Graham-hammer.

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by Faux on Jun 10, 2011 6:37 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Sweet Jesus

I’d suggest preemptively banning everybody except Jeff, Matthew, and Robert if the M’s were to make the playoffs.

by ThomasG on Jun 10, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know next to nothing about beer!

… But I want to learn because I’ve only found a couple of beers I don’t like. Has anybody been to Big Star Beers in Northgate? My friend was telling me it has a huge selection, but is it completely overpriced since it is all imported?

by Mataya on Jun 11, 2011 12:04 AM PDT reply actions  

It's o.k. If you're looking to sample different styles or breweries it's terrific

I’d consider it pricey, but you can purchase individual bottles. I have nothing to compare it to so that’s a rather shaky opinion, especially with regards to selection. Central Market is relatively nearby and has a decent selection, more domestic and fewer foreign options than Big Star

by Kermit. on Jun 11, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

What!!!

NOT our Hated Rivals??

by msb on Jun 11, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

This would be a major shakeup, because we'd have interleague play all the time!

Or at least one team would have to sit out everyday.

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by perfectstrat on Jun 11, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I would prefer one team from each league sitting out every day.

The way that the master schedule is set up now, it seems like there are days when there are only 3 or 4 games on… it would be a lot nicer to have 14 (or so) games every single day.

by Mataya on Jun 11, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think the owners will buy putting the Astros and Rangers in the same division.

They hate putting teams in similar media markets in the same league, let alone division.

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by perfectstrat on Jun 11, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

This may apply to what you're saying

Olney “On the Astros: Keep in mind they are going through ownership change, which means MLB could make shift a condition of approval, if it wanted.”

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 11, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Houston makes about as much sense as Arlington, logistically.

I don’t know why we don’t just take the Rockies…

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by JY on Jun 11, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because we don't want a good team in the AL West :(

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by JAH on Jun 11, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also playing Tulo regularly would make my fandom want to hang itself.

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by JY on Jun 11, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Attention Thingray!

I was perusing some ancient minor league wraps from 2007, and couldn’t help but notice this comment..

Did you ever buy the jersey?

by redwolf75 on Jun 11, 2011 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

The Cylons knew the best way to get a nerd to spill security codes is a leggy blonde.

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by JAH on Jun 11, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somehow I'd missed that Tahmoh Penikett was on it.

I assume that he won’t really be left behind on the planet forever. I also find it odd to now hear Jamie Bamber with his American accent, after watching 2 seasons of Law & Order UK

by msb on Jun 11, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The pilot is one of the best parts.

It starts going off the rails mid season two, then it gets back on the rails sometime later, and then goes off them again as soon as you realize that the interesting episodes didn’t have any lasting impact.

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by JY on Jun 11, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's fine.

I’m just trying to counterbalance the sometimes silly amount of praise I see lavished on it.

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by JY on Jun 11, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think it's one of the most overrated shows of the last 10 years.

First 2 seasons were pretty great, but holy mother of god it gets so fucking bad. Watching the last season was like punishing myself and I had to give it up. Still haven’t seen the last 3 episodes or so, but I read all about…….absolutely hilarious.

by sanford_and_son on Jun 12, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I gave up on most of the last season, but saw the final episode.

Towards the middle/end of season two, I had a rough idea of how the entire series was going to end, and then it happened, pretty much exactly as I thought it would.

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by JY on Jun 12, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also I'm glad the spinoff was cancelled because it was pretty silly.

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by JY on Jun 12, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will now add graduation to days where I eat myself to the point of near food coma.

So far they include Thanksgiving, New Years, Chinese New Years, Fourth of July. Any other days that people just absolutely hog out?

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Jun 11, 2011 8:03 PM PDT reply actions  

If you use the screw-in camping canisters, yes.

I’ve seen those things start leaking from temperature differences overnight camping. I wouldn’t trust them to leave in for more than an afternoon.

If it’s a bigger one with a valve on it, you can just turn off the valve and leave it screwed in.

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by Faux on Jun 11, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, don't answer questions tired.

No, I mean. Take it off your grill, and I’d leave used ones outside if possible.

For some reason I read that as “Should I take it off between uses”

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by Faux on Jun 11, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, thanks

it is the small 16 oz size that you screw in. Counter-clockwise, contrary to the manual.

by msb on Jun 11, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's always best to leave them outside if you can help it.

How did it work, make anything good?

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by Faux on Jun 11, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once I got the hang of lighting it and checked on the timing, etc

chicken legs marinated in garlic sauce. they looks so pretty.

by msb on Jun 11, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear it came out well, then. There's nothing like good grilled food.

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by Faux on Jun 11, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

You might be stuck depending on code in your town.

I know that my first apartment in NJ, the town didn’t allow any bigger than the camping canisters to be within 20 ft. of a living space, and so you couldn’t have a standard grill in any complex in town unless it had a detached garage.

So I had to use a Coleman Roadtrip while I was there, as that was the biggest grill I could find for the canisters.

I can’t say I would recommend that grill, though. It had some temperature issues. It wasn’t good for anything thicker than a 1/2" steak, and I had to butterfly any thick chicken breasts or they wouldn’t cook correctly.

If this is the case, you’re probably better off getting a decently sized Weber (like the Q120 or Q220), as that will give you some more area and a little more heat retention (and electric start, which is a better feature than you realize until you have it).

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by Faux on Jun 11, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yessum.

16.4 if you want to be technical.

by wazzu93 on Jun 11, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

By the by

Hibachi grills are awesome-tiny little things run on charcoal and cook great foods.

by wazzu93 on Jun 11, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can understand that thought process, and it's not necessarily wrong.

A propane grill will take a good 10 minutes to become cool to the touch once you’re done. A charcoal grill can still be at a fireable temperature for a good half hour if you cook something quickly, unless you douse it with water and make a mess.

That and a charcoal grill in a yard I would just take and dump the whole mess in the compost pile when I was a kid. Spray it out with a hose every third or fourth time and it was good to go. You can’t do that easily in an apartment, where gas grill cleanup is as easy as scraping the grill with foil and maybe scooping out the bottom of chunks.

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by Faux on Jun 13, 2011 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love Larry Stone.

Those Mariners fans who are irked the club didn’t take a hitter — if not Rendon, then Bubba Starling or Francisco Lindor — should have the opportunity to talk for 10 minutes to Kuhn, or perhaps Mike Moriarty, the Mariners’ area scout assigned to Virginia. You won’t know whether to root for Hultzen or adopt him.

by msb on Jun 12, 2011 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

OH GREAT GUYS WE DRAFTED AN OLD MAN!!!!111

But seriously, what editor looked at that photo and was like “YUP, let’s run that one.”

Terrifying.

by sanford_and_son on Jun 12, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Medical reports turn up late onset progeria.

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by JY on Jun 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

They call that "aging"

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by thehemogoblin on Jun 12, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not the best place for tech help, but what the hell.

I recently got a Sony HD camcorder with a hard drive of about 30 hours. I’m going to empty the contents into an external hard drive eventually. But after I do that, does anyone know I can play back the videos on my TV? I’m not sure what the file format is or if that’s relevant or not.

by Fearless Frog on Jun 12, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

DO IT!

And no refrigeration needed-perfect camping treat.

by wazzu93 on Jun 12, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone else have good/odd hiking/camping foods?

Most odd yet delicious hiking snack I’ve had was a friend’s grandmother’s snack. Mince black olives and walnuts, then bind together with a little mayo. Spread on toasted bread and cut into little finger food sizes. Yummo.

by wazzu93 on Jun 12, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's glorious but almost too sweet.

I feel like I should mix in some peanut butter for the perfect blend. Like a natural peanut butter cup.

by wazzu93 on Jun 12, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds delicious.

I was finding when I bought a jar to spread on toast, that spreading it very lightly helps a ton with making it not “too much”.

by Patrick Stites on Jun 12, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

A peanut butter and nutella sandwich is delicious.

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by JAH on Jun 12, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your Antoinette Perry Awards report thus far.

Neil Patrick Harris can host just about anything.
The Theatre Wing has decided to deal with the awkwardly titled “The motherfucker with the hat” by calling it “The mother with a hat” all night.
Daniel Radcliffe has an adequate singing voice, but is a surprisingly good dancer. He is also a foot shorter than his co-star, John Larroquette.
Norbert Leo Butz still has one of the best names ever.
The Book of Morman by Trey Parker and Matt Stone is very, very popular. Andrew Rannells, the lead Mormon, is adorable.
NPH’s only rival in the hosting game is Hugh Jackman. Let the duel begin.
Bono and Edge are capable of self-mockery, while Robin Williams continues to be vastly annoying.

by msb on Jun 12, 2011 9:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, Robin Williams.

I liked him as a serious actor on occasion, but I can no longer think of anything comedic he’s done without thinking of the Flashtub animation they did parodying him.

Something Awful

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by JY on Jun 12, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

pt.2

Samuel L. Jackson will be playing Martin Luther King Jr. later this year. Um. Okay.
If Sutton Foster had been born in another era, she would be Queen of Everything.
Christie Brinkley has been taking el-u-lo-cu-tion and vo-cal pro-JEC-tion lessons for her upcoming Broadway debut.
Martha Plimpton should be in everything.
Did we know that Paul Shaffer co-wrote “It’s raining men”?

by msb on Jun 12, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy shit.

After abusing myself with that article I plunged right on into the comments. Started out surprisingly articulate and went downhill fast. I’m going to go do something less damaging to myself like cut my wrists.

by the other side on Jun 12, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

This is the greatest thing ever:
Kyle Gaedele, chosen by the Padres out of Valparaiso University in the sixth-round, has a family connection to the goofiest scheme ever concocted by the late Bill Veeck. Which is saying something: During his years as principal owner of the Indians, St. Louis Browns and White Sox, Veeck had no peers as a salesman and showman.
In 1951, Veeck signed Kyle Gaedele’s great uncle, Eddie Gaedel, to a one-day contract. Weighing 65 pounds, standing 3-foot-7 and wearing the uniform number of 1/8, Eddie Gaedel emerged from a cake between games of a Browns-Tigers doubleheader, then had an at-bat in the second game. Crouched in a stance that limited the pitcher’s strike zone to an inch and a half or so, Gaedel walked on four pitches.
Although the American League would void the contract – after he was replaced by a pinch runner, Gaedel never again took the field – the stunt has been preserved in the baseball record book, which lists Eddie Gaedel’s career on-base percentage at a perfect 1.000.
As for Kyle Gaedele – the "e" at the end of the last name is the family’s traditional spelling – he’s a 6-4 outfielder who remains proud of his great uncle’s quirky legacy.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 12, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing that will taste like cheese, most likely.

A friend’s dad growing up replaced all the cheese in his diet with Wasabi and Hot Sauce to give it salt and flavor, so maybe you can try that? Not sure how it’ll turn out, but he didn’t have any complaints.

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by Faux on Jun 13, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly, there is no substitute for cheese

You’re probably best to cut it out entirely – ramp down, don’t go cold turkey, but within a month or so have all cheese eliminated from your diet.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Genetic or due to lifestyle?

My doctor says the same thing :o , and despite me explaining how terrible my diet is to my PCP, she explained that in the case of genetic diet can only result in a shift of 10 points.

by Robert on Jun 13, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

My high cholesterol is genetic

My blood pressure is high but not by much. Just more then it should be when I’m only 26 and in decent shape. Its combo of poor diet, inactivity and stress.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 13, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Samsies

My parent’s have forever battled it and I guess that makes her skittish. I just told her that I would cut out the fast food and start playing league soccer.

by Robert on Jun 13, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lolbron!

Surprised to see that we don’t have a thread on this yet.

When he signed with the Heat I wanted one of two things: Either for the Heat to win a title every single year and make the NBA less interesting that La Liga or for the Heat to fall short in the Finals every year he is there for the hilarity. Only one option now!

by Robert on Jun 13, 2011 8:33 AM PDT reply actions  

I tend to agree with Posnanski on this

I watched the fourth quarter of the game – the first entire quarter of a basketball game I have watched in about 10 years! – and it sure looked to me like LeBron didn’t want to be there, and didn’t want to ‘step up and be the man’ or ‘take it to the next level’, or whatever tired sports cliche you want to employ.

LeBron is an amazing player, but he doesn’t seem to want to kill games off. I don’t know why that is, but I find it interesting.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time believing that

One of the last NBA games that I watched was the Cavs/Detroit game in 2007 where he scored the last 30 something points to will Cleveland to the win.

by Robert on Jun 13, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Granted I have an extremely small sample size of this game and of many things I've read

but in this game alone, as Pos points out, there were two moments towards the end of the game where the Heat got LeBron the ball in a position to do something and close the scoring gap to four points or so, and the first thing he did was pass it away as fast as he could, both times. Didn’t even try to charge the lane, ‘make something happen’ or whatever. And I just kept thinking “Kobe Bryant/Derrick Rose/(name your superstar here) would have done something there. It might not have worked, but he would have tried something.” It’s not even a choke – it seems like it’s an unwillingness to be in that situation in the first place, and for an elite-level athlete I find that very interesting.

From what I’ve seen, LeBron is an amazing player. Why he isn’t that amazing when the game is on the line in a big situation – like yesterday, or like Boston last year – we’ll probably never know, but it’s interesting to watch.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

JJ Barrea had more confidence in the series than LeBron James.

You watch the series and LeBron either disappeared entirely in the fourth quarter, or took horrible shots. He’s the most physically gifted athlete in the game, and yet he would go to the free throw line 4 or 5 times a game. Great players should get 10-12 free throws a game, and that’s what LeBron used to do. But it’s like Albert Pujols wildly swinging like Yuniesky Betancourt or Jose Lopez… draw a walk. LeBron refuses to draw walks, and it makes no sense other than he was just not a smart basketball player during the series.

And people can make all the hulabaloo they want about “Wow, a guy gets a triple double and gets criticized” but the fact of the matter is that Dirk and Jason Terry played like guys fighting to win a championship, and the Heat just seemed like they were going through the motions. I know that LeBron and Wade really wanted to win, and I don’t think they “didn’t care” but they didn’t act like they knew what the fuck they were doing out there. The better team clearly won the series, they played “like they wanted it more” as cliche as that sounds. And Dirk was by far the best and most complete player in the series. I think LeBron has some weird issues and I wouldn’t be surprised if it takes the Heat more than a year or two to get back to the Finals.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

If it's the same possession I am thinking of, there were about 4 minutes left, and no one on the Heat wanted to take a shot.

 They just kept passing the ball, waiting for someone else to do it. It seemed like no one wanted to be the guy who missed the shot that gave Dallas the Championship. It wasn’t just LeBron, it was the whole team playing hot potato.

by joof on Jun 13, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

But that's the thing

James, as the self-proclaimed King and as arguably the best player in the league right now, should WANT to grab that hot potato and do something with it. He should be the end of that passing chain, not a link in it.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heck, he even passed the ball in the post-game interview.

He obviously doesn’t want to be the “main man”, otherwise he never would have gone to play with Wade and Bosh. That alone tells you that he isn’t the “King”.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's definitely been an odd thing, but you could argue that as a whole the entire point of LeBron going to Miami

was that he would play with someone who is a more talented closer than he is (Wade), which allows him to focus on what he does best – dominating the game without necessarily taking every shot

by seattlebruin on Jun 13, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's at this point that I will defer to those with far superior basketball knowledge to my own

and since I didn’t really watch the finals except for that last quarter, I have to ask if he did the job he came to Miami to do in the finals – was he dominating other than what I saw?

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

He kind of disappeared after the 1st quarter of that game

so even ignoring the crunch time stuff, he didn’t do much in quarters 2 and 3.

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by bluemax on Jun 13, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I know +/- isn't a good stat

but he was -24 overall in that game.

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by bluemax on Jun 13, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is that if you did compare him to Jordan, many of the big clutch shots in the Bulls 6 championships, they weren't Jordan shots.

He had the big shot against the Jazz, but it’s not like to be “clutch” you have to just hit game winning shots.

Jordan did everything for 48 minutes. James is not year a 48-minute player. He is not a leader. He wants Wade to be the leader which is definitely odd since James is the most talented player in the league. Usually the leagues most talented player will be the one expected to step up and be “the man” in the way that Jordan constantly called out players on his own team. James isn’t that kind of guy.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

And this is why I find LeBron to be fascinating

usually with that ungodly level of talent, in any sport – Gretzky, Jordan, whoever – you want to be the one who imposes your will on the game for the whole game, and you want it to be your fault when you lose as much as you want all the credit when you win. LeBron’s wired differently, for whatever reason – he seems to have Jordan-level talent, but he also seems to want to spend more time being Stockton.

Which is not a bad thing, but from what little I’ve seen him play (and please correct me if I’m wrong), he sometimes gets stuck thinking “should I be the scorer or should I be the distributor” too much and as a result ends up doing nothing. At least towards the ends of games.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's definitely moments when LeBron has the ball at the end of the game and Miami (and it happened in Cleveland too) with a chance to win and he passes on the shot to win it. Lets someone else take it.

It is so rare that you’ll ever see Kobe do something like that. People call Kobe selfish but he’s still got 5 rings and he’s still a lot closer to Jordan than LeBron is so far. But LeBron still has 10 more years left in this league as a premium player. Jordan wasn’t close to winning a championship when he was LeBrons age and I didn’t watch NBA when Jordan was in his 20’s, so Im not sure how he was. But he definitely seemed like a natural born leader.

LeBron has been famous since he was 14. That kind of fame seems like it can mess with a persons head. Who knows whats going on inside that dome of his.

The veterans on the Mavs were what made the difference in the series. Even with Wade already having won a title, you could tell the massive difference in experience throughout the series. I will be interested to find out what kind of a messy drama will happen in Miami if they don’t win a title next year.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will be interested to see if there is a next year

I don’t remember whether it was Simmons or someone else, but I read recently the intriguing possibility that any new labor agreement will be so radically different from the current one that it would be impossible for the Heat to keep all three of last year’s free agents, or at least be impossible to keep all three build around them – which would leave LeBron in the same position he was in Cleveland, but with no easy escape clause this time.

I can’t decide whether I’d rather see the NFL or the NBA implode more, but I’m leaning NBA just because their economics are so whacked.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

I know I’ve read that the NBA CBA will be a lot worse than the NFL one and there’s a good chance it will cut into a large portion of the season if not the entire thing. And the biggest thing being that the owners want to have non-guaranteed contracts and be able to re-structure already existing contracts, the same thing that cancelled an NHL season.

I would still be surprised to see Wade and LeBron broken up. If anyone is out, it seems like it would be Bosh. He’s important but not irreplaceable.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Simmons has been predicting the 2012 lock out

for like 3 years now

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by bluemax on Jun 13, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I trust him because he knows a ton about the NBA

but it’s not just Simmons at this point, a lot of media are talking about a lockout.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's NHL's time to shine!

Literally shine! Move all the teams to sunny cities!

by Matthew on Jun 13, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think San Diego could use a team

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by bluemax on Jun 13, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed that it was quite an impressive disappearing act

but James as a closer has never been his strong suit – there have been other series (especially early in his career with Cleveland) where he was simply dominating by getting to wherever he wanted on the floor, drawing multiple defenders and finding cutters or shooters.

With Wade on the team, LeBron’s greatest strength has been slashing to the bucket and looking for Wade on cuts – as good as Wade is with the ball, he’s just as incredible cutting without it

by seattlebruin on Jun 13, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

But they liked talking to each other!

One of them had been avoiding the other, and only went to the dinner reluctantly, but ended up having an incredible evening.

I wish they used a different song there. Still, it was cleverly done.

by katal on Jun 13, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

"How's my Dirk taste"

Nice. Although you’d think he could afford some higher quality printing on that shirt.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have sort of have felt this was coming for a little while now.

Has Facebook peaked?

Zuckerberg should get out while he can! I just never felt Social Media would have long-term sustainability, though it’s still WAY too early to say that Facebook has peaked or will go away any time soon.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

It's always felt like a fad service to me.

People only went to facebook because it was cool to be on facebook. When it’s cool to be on d0nkeybook, then that’s where people will go. Although I will admit, it would be really tough to draw people away from facebook right now. But in 5 or 10 years, who knows.

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

To me it's a great place to share pictures with friends and family.

That’s how I use it most of the time. I think you have enough people from different generations that use it, that it won’t “fad out” as easily as MySpace and others have.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see it as a fad but I think it's settling into its pattern now

you’re right, at first it was OMGIHAVETOBEONFACEBOOKCUZEVERYONEIS and now it’s kind of found its groove, and the people that don’t need it (like me) have accounts but never use them. Thingray has a point, it is a good place to share family photos and the like.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that was strange

I had a whole comment below that rather opaque subject line. Mostly how about the novelty of Facebook has worn off for the casual user, and now the people that use it aren’t being joined by those casual users any more so the membership numbers are dropping a bit. I don’t think it’s going away, although I am somewhat curious about this d0nkeybook and would love to hear more about it and subscribe to it.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

d0nkeybook has all the best games.

But seriously, the gaming will help keep FB around too. Zynga addicts are everywhere.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

But here's the thing.

You both ( and obviously SSS, etc ) mentioned that you use it to share photos with friends and family. See, that isn’t anything special. FB, to me, doesn’t do anything special. There is no reason a different social network site couldn’t make a place to share photos and call it something cooler than facebook. As long as it is percieved as a more hip place to share photos, etc. then that’s where people will go. Especially if you get a few celebrities on board.

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's the thing though.

I am an old person. FB works fine for me, and for my friends that share pictures. I am, therefore, extremely not likely to switch to something shiny and new and hip – I’ll stick with FB and let all you kids in the pegged jeans and ironic band t-shirts have the new thing. I am past the point of caring if the pictures of my new kitten are on the most tech-forward site in the universe.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yep.

You’re not going to get my grandparents, parents, aunts and uncles to switch to Fancybook or whatever comes next. It took us 15 years just to get them off of AOL.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously written in jest

but that is exactly my point. When everyone wants a fancyd0nkeybook account, that’s what everyone will flock to. And everyone will be forced to get one because everyone else has one.

This is exactly what happened with myspace. People wanted somethign new and better. Then there was facebook. Myspace didn’t exactly try to grow with the consumer demand so the consumers left for facebook. I don’t see why that wouldn’t happen with facebook as well

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think Myspace was ever as mainstream as Facebook is.

I can’t imagine, say, my aunts or my parents moving from Facebook to something else shinier, because Facebook has the user base. Over time maybe the user base will shift and casual users will too, but there will be a strong inertia that will work against normal, mainstream, non-early-adopter types leaving Facebook for a competitor.

by Chris Hafner on Jun 13, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that's completely different.

Adoption away from search technology can be gradual – as I learn about new search technology, I can begin altering my behavior gradually. Whether other people adopt the new technology or not has no bearing on whether I do the same.

Facebook has a powerful hold on the market because the functionality revolves around the other people using it. Unless all of my friends move to the new platform, Facebook will continue to have more value to me than a competitor that my friends haven’t adopted. That makes shifting from one platform to another much more painful and/or slower than changing search technology.

I can imagine people like my aunts changing from Google to Bing. I can’t imagine them leaving Facebook for a competitor unless they can still get updates on their nieces and nephews at that competitor.

by Chris Hafner on Jun 13, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

Unless they can still get updates on their nieces and nephews. If they can, then there is a real possibility that they could switch. Not even that they could switch, but that they could be forced to switch because their nieces and nephews have moved to a different social media site.

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

It’s like anything involving inertia – getting the user base to move at all will be incredibly hard. But then, once it begins and momentum builds – once a given person’s friends and family have mostly made the move – I think the move would happen pretty quickly.

by Chris Hafner on Jun 13, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that's just it.

They DID eventually switch from AOL to something else. And pdb said he’d stick with FB and let the kids and the new thing. But when the new thing ends up being used by your friends and family, you’ll eventually be forced to switch.

I’m in no way saying that it would ever be an overnight thing, but FB doesn’t have the security that most people think.

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought, that if anything, Facebook has the opposite of security.

It now recognizes your face in pictures for gods sake.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Facebook is creepy.

I made a dummy page so I could get into a couple of groups some friends had information posted on. Now when I log into my completely made up Don Key’s facebook page it give me suggestions of people I might know that went to school with me. Just because my fake account is in a group that has a lot of people on it that I went to school with.

They are great information farmers.

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know!

I have become friends with 1 person in a long-term fantasy league, and we’ve hung out and kept in touch. Just this one person and he’s got hundreds of friends on Facebook because he’s a musician. Facebook suggested to me just 1 of those hundreds of friends and it was 1 other guy in that fantasy league. HOW DID THEY KNOW?!?!

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my example, the suggestion was a guy that I played in one indoor soccer league with.

He didn’t go to my HS or anything either. I was like, “Hey, I know that guy already”. HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT FACEBOOK??

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just to play devil's advocate for a moment - isn't this a good thing?

Isn’t it of value to you that Facebook recommends people you might actually want to be Facebook friends with? Likewise, Amazon’s recommendations engine requires browsing and purchase history to power it, but it’s also one of Amazon’s best-loved features because it helps people discover things they might (and frequently do) like.

by Chris Hafner on Jun 13, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I guess it could be a good thing to some people. But I have no interest in friending people who I can't simply find on my own.

For people who need to be in touch with every person they’ve ever had contact with, I suppose it works, but frankly for me its just scary. It’s scary that Facebook knew that much about my internet history, how I know people, what leagues I’ve been a part in, what else do they know? My own trail of thought right now is leading towards “No Politics”

I guess I just feel like I need a clean slate.

Did you know that if you delete your facebook, you don’t actually ever delete it? You have to manually remove every piece of information. If you choose to “Delete my Facebook account” in Facebook, it “deletes” it but you can come back at any time and it will be exactly as you left it.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other than maybe the Coca-Cola's, McDonalds and IBM's of the world very few companies do.

Even less so in the dot.com world. But I think FB is adaptable enough that they will maintain a decent market share.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except you can't get a coke from anywhere but coke.

Nor McDonalds fries from anywhere but McDonalds. My point is that facebook doesn’t offer up anything truly special to the consumer besides a name and the fact that everyone uses it.

And if thefancyd0nkeybook does, then what’s to stop people from switching?

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

AOL had a boatload of direct competition and not much sense of user loyalty

User loyalty is built in to Facebook because there are literally no other options, and it will not be easy to tear people away from that.

Especially older people who care much more about utility and familiarity than coolness.

by HititHere on Jun 13, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it would be just as easy to have a site that just allowed you to share photos with people in your "group"

I don’t like the direction Facebook is heading. It’s way too much information about people. I feel like things will swing the other way and people will start to pay more attention to privacy and get out of facebook or limit it very much.

Once I started using Twitter (I know, just a different kind of social media) I stopped caring about facebook. People just need something else to care about.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

To me Twitter is very different.

It’s an instant “this is how I feel right NOW” network, where FB is more about sharing longer term things? If that makes sense?

I know some people will post on FB saying “Just ordered fries” two seconds later “just ordered a cheeseburger”, etc, etc, but more and more people do that on Twitter (which I think is pretty useless for most people) instead.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't use FB for much more myself, other than "Here's something I have to say!" and "What do you have to say?"

Its good for me to get to see my family back in Washington, which is a treat and why I won’t leave FB. But if my family was on twitter, they could tweet pics and videos just the same. They’re just not on TWitter.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It actually works really well if you get direct messages or @ replies sent to your phone.

I do that, and it’s a really handy way to text message people who I don’t want to have my cellphone number. People can tweet at me and I get back to them in a matter of seconds if I’m free.

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by thehemogoblin on Jun 13, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Facebook is going to remain the premiere social portal until someone else comes along and does it better

The privacy issues are concerning, there’s always going to be a weird chimera there between user satisfaction (privacy), service goals (publicity), and revenue (selling your information to advertisers). I will say though your twitter example is a good illustration of why your initial assertion that social media doesn’t have long term sustainability is a bit like calling the internet a fad. The particular sites may change, but people are always going to want a way to connect with their friends.

by Drew_D on Jun 13, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's just why I would get as much value out of facebook as I possibly could within the next year if I was a shareholder.

But I’m just always nervous that the other shoe is going to drop. I just don’t see the long-term sustainability that currently has it valued in the high billions.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The hard thing about replicating Facebook is not improving on its features, it's building a critical mass of faithful users.

I’m not on Facebook because I love the site functionality, I’m on it because it represents an easy way to stay in touch with friends and family. Why would I switch to a different site that doesn’t have my friends and family? That’s the huge advantage Facebook has, and the huge challenge any competitor would face.

Twitter has made some inroads on adoption, but as you say it’s very different.

by Chris Hafner on Jun 13, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not comparing them on face value to Myspace, as Myspace made a lot more mistakes than Facebook ever has.

Facebook has much more sustainability than Myspace did, but people only knew Myspace sucked until Facebook opened up to everybody and then they said “Oh wait, this is better”

There’s not much to improve upon for Facebook and I don’t know how many people would ever try, but I don’t think its got a monopoly on the market like Microsoft did. And its so powerful now that anything good that does come along could just get gobbled up by Facebook. There are many similarities in design and functionality between Facebook and Google and why would Google ever not be worth billions?

I just think the plateau for Facebook is nearing. It will soon peak and then it has nowhere to go but straight forward or down. I’m personally thinking of getting out and I know I’ve heard similar rumblings from other people and if the numbers are also starting to level out, that’s interesting.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I said this up the thread as well, but I think Facebook's position in the market is much more secure than Myspace ever was.

Myspace didn’t have parents, grandparents, people who didn’t even really care about computers. Facebook has everybody. I have relatives who first got e-mail addresses a few years ago who are active on Facebook. Myspace was much more limited in reach.

I could see people getting disenchanted with being spending time to be active on Facebook, but it’d be hard to imagine Facebook’s user base migrating en masse to a similar platform even if that platform has better features.

by Chris Hafner on Jun 13, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've grown tired of it for the most part. And I started on facebook in the beginning because I happened to be in college when it was college-only.

So then I’ve been on Facebook for some 7 years or so I guess. That puts me at about a 3-year advantage to most people I’m guessing and I’m starting to grow tired of it. I wonder if my generation will have similar feelings and then within a couple of years the mass will slowly grow tired of it too. Just a guess.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it was just keeping up with college buddies - I could see me loosing interest.

But I have so many scattered friends and family that I can feel “caught up” with everyone in about 10minutes.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 13, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I don't really use it to keep up with old friends. Old friends I can do without. I could probably reduce my friends to the low-20's and get all I need.

I’m thinking more along the lines of “Do I want to keep this profile up to date anymore?” and “How much information is Facebook taking from me?”

It almost makes me want to fall of the face of the planet just to go in the complete opposite direction that Facebook is taking us.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well to be honest.

Everyone on the internet is harvesting your information. I had a hour long call this morning talking about harvesting peoples info for partnerships with other companies.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 13, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats pure bull-crap.

Not what you’re saying, but bull-crap that I can’t have privacy anymore. This is seriously what’s making me want to fall off the face of the earth.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can have privacy.

But you can’t social network AND have privacy.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is correct

networking, by its definition, means a surrendering of privacy. How much one surrenders should be up to the individual, but FB makes it so it’s not easy because that’s the way they make money.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

While I agree with this, I think FB is too enmeshed in the populous to die anything other than a slooooooow, agonizing death

Even if something cooler comes along, the fact that there are many people older than Generation Y who use FB means it will be tough for anything to replace it. Especially not quickly.

AOL always had strong competition. So it died relatively quickly.

Facebook’s only direct competition was MySpace, which it annihilated within 1 year of being made available to people outside college. There is no direct competition.

Plus FB dominates smartphones too.

That kind of integration will take a long time to die, even if something much cooler comes along that Jason Statham and Megan Fox endorse.

by HititHere on Jun 13, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could see it staying popular with the older generation, but the older generation also is what makes JAG and NCIS something that is watched by a lot of people but not popular.

If you’re not cool with the young demographics, you’re not as profitable. And that’s where I’m saying its going to lose its power.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm. I disagree. Young people (or at least, teens and college-age people especially)

don’t spend that much money. What marketers really drool over is the middle-aged adults with 6 figure incomes and/or families.

I bet NCIS rakes in dough for advertising, even if it’s not that “cool.” Further, young people are fickle and move from trend to trend, while older people are loyal and create lasting market shares.

by HititHere on Jun 13, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh please no.

My 13-year old brother just got a facebook and it completely dominates his life and has destroyed his study habits. If I were Zuckerberg I’d do the same thing - I want all the money I can get - but if I’m a concerned parent there’s no way in hell I’m letting my child have a facebook.

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by perfectstrat on Jun 13, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

But truthfully the younger generation "friends" I have on facebook

Are out of control when it comes to posting. My cousin updates her status every 15minutes and every single one collects 20+comments.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 13, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

My niece is the same way.

“Crispalupas are 99 cents at Taco Bell” which is followed by 20 replies, 10 of which I can’t figure out because they seem to be in code.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

To overcome Facebook you would have to have some revolutionary idea.

Someone with Cash flow that is willing to loose all of it and one hell of a development team.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 13, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree.

It’s like trying to pitch an idea for a new revolutionary cola to go up against coke and pepsi.

Not going to happen. But it could.

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

Person: “Hey I got a great new idea, I need some money”

Investor:“What’s the idea?”

Person: “I have a new social media site that will incoporate everything that is facebook, twitter, youtube, etc and put it all on one page”

Investor: “Goodbye.”

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twitter will never work because there are too many flaws.

If Twitter wasn’t a beta product that exploded in popularity it would have a chance. Maybe twitter 2.0

by Robert on Jun 13, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is still not making money.

As an aside to this conversation, I’m not sure how long Twitter lasts in its current form. Right now there is a line of venture capitalists out the door, but still nothing that resembles a profit framework. I’m wondering how many more will pump money into it not knowing what they’re going to get back.

Facebook at least has ads, and a massive information net that they can tap for money. Twitter doesn’t have any of that income structure built yet.

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by Faux on Jun 13, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Won't they just start tweeting ads between every 10 tweets or something on your newsfeed?

This is a total random guess. Its like how Word with Friends is so annoying because every move you make comes with a freaking advertisement.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are advertisements ALL over twitter.

Twitter just forgot to ask them to pay for their adspace :(

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It does make very little from "Promoted" tweets/users/etc

But not many companies use it in lieu of just using twitter in its free form.

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by Faux on Jun 13, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have a ton, but it's not income money. It's venture capital.

Apparently they’re licensing off their API to provide realtime results to the big search engines, but that’s rumored to only be getting them less than 50M. That can’t be near operating costs for the number of employees and the bandwidth involved.

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by Faux on Jun 13, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

200 Million users * ~200 API hits per day/user (estimated by numerous sources) = quite a bit

I can’t find them releasing their numbers anywhere, but one packet of text times that much is still a lot of bandwidth. I remember looking it up about Google and they use like 25 TB a year just on their front page alone, and that’s a static page that’s like 10k with no ACKS/login.

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by Faux on Jun 13, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

XXX will be the game that steals WoWs user base!

Lazy journalism at its finest.

Its not like Facebook was first to market though. Or even the first to use the “you can’t join this site yet” method of getting people to want to join. Poor, poor Friendster.

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by bluemax on Jun 13, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

And my whole point is that given the right circumstances, the same could happen to facebook.

I really don’t think it will be likely, but with everyone’s help we can make thed0nkeybook a reality.

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

first off, who is Cisco Morris?

Secondly, as long as what it didn’t draw attention to or distract what was going on, I wouldn’t really have a problem with it.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oops, spelled his name incorrectly.

But yeah, that is the guy. To me it just seems like an odd thing to do. I wasn’t quick enough on the draw to get the picture anyway. But I will say that the guy is as energetic and wacky in person as he is on TV.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, it's always an awkward moment for me.

I’m not the type to take a picture of a celebrity or what-have-you without talking to them. But if I see a celebrity in LA that I want to talk to, I have no problem going right up to them and saying something. But I think you got to say something like “hey can I get a picture with you?”

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

It will probably make a better story than picture anyway.

And we left there with a turtle made from scrap metal and a saw blade, and I had a really good pulled pork sandwich, so I guess it turned out okay?

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like it turned out great. Honestly, the thing about Ciscoe is that I probably would ask for a picture.

I wouldn’t care about getting a picture with like a major celebrity like Bono or Tom Cruise or whatever, but I think a picture with Ciscoe would be much more appreciated by my friends and family.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it would be cool, unfortunately they were trying to haul him away so he could go speak on stage.

So we didn’t get the chance to have him pose for one.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's a little impolite, but my wife has made me do the same thing several times.

In fact, we do this with characters we find intriguing, not just famous people. She’ll go pose for a picture near a guy in a pink shirt, a mullet and a “world’s greatest dad” trucker hat, and I’ll inconspicuously redirect the camera in his direction instead and snap it.

Maybe we’re bad people, but I long ago figured out it’s better to keep her happy than make a big deal over being polite.

by HititHere on Jun 13, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

This reminds me of a picture of my wife and I in Vegas.

We were trying to take our own picture in front of a big “ELVIS” sign, and a nice person offered to take the picture for us. He takes the picture, says “it turned out great”, we glance at it and move on. We get home and look more closely at the picture, and there is a three fingered man standing maybe two feet behind us looking right at the camera with this crazy smile on his face. Still love that picture.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a picture on Something Awful where these friends were slying trying to take a picture of Thom York from Radiohead in the Louvre.

York seemed to have figured out what was going on, because in the pic he is smirking at the camera and is just a lifted leg away from doing the Captain Morgan pose.

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by JAH on Jun 13, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd feel more comfortable doing that with some random person on the street.

But when it’s someone that will probably be more than happy to actually pose for a picture, it feels “stalker-ish” somehow.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are many ways of dealing with a problem.

There are good ways – identify the problem, figure out what’s causing it, take steps to address it – and then there’s the MLS way. MLS officiating is, to be generous, bad. Following Timbers coach John Spencer’s ejection Saturday night for questioning the fitness (both physical and technical) of the referee, he was invited to watch the rest of the game from the dressing room. In the writeup of the game afterwards was this gem of a quote:

The league has grown weary of hearing criticism of its officials this season and there’s little doubt that Spencer will likely be fined.

So in short, the MLS way of dealing with a recognized, league-wide problem is to fine the people that bring up the problem (which is fair enough), and then complain that they’re hearing too much about the problem. Nice.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Mark Cuban says hello.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is way bigger than MLS.

MLS have to use USSF officials, who are atrociously bad and have always been atrociously bad. The league seems to recognize the problem (they seem oddly willing to post blown calls as highlights on the website) and they’ve most assuredly given the officials in their pool rather firm instructions about areas of emphasis, so my guess is that they want to handle it in-house so to speak.

That said, while criticizing the officials as a coach is almost a guaranteed fine, MLS is not being very smart in their more recent ‘stop bitching about the officials’ campaign. It’s a problem and like most problems MLS actually seem to be working actively to fix it, but they’re absolutely terrible at the PR side of things.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 13, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's no such thing as MLS officiating though.

As Aaron said, it’s USSF so I can see them being as fed up with people bitching about the problem as they are with the problem. Welcome to me and Dustin Ackley, MLS!

by Matthew on Jun 13, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

But MLS has to have some level of control over the referees, right?

I mean, they hire them from USSF – they’re not volunteering their time, after all. MLS should be able to enforce some sort of minimum standards or training, you’d think.

And again, if MLS is sick of hearing people bitch about it, they should do something about it – partner with USSF to train referees, hire their own referees, something.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, not really.

They can give them areas of emphasis, but they have to choose from the pool USSF provides. They are forbidden by FIFA from doing anything else.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 13, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Problem solved!

Envelope full of cash + lunch with Sepp Blatter = MLS has control of their referees!

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Robles optioned to High Desert per KJR.

Where was he before, and what does this mean?

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Weird story.

Why would he get within two meters of the ground, have every one jump to safety, then climb back to forty meters if he was having some sort of problem?

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That could be true.

I would just think as a pilot if you can get that close to the ground with an aircraft that was in trouble, you’d just land. I mean, this isn’t a 747 trying to land in a McDonald’s parking lot. It’s pretty much a powered balloon.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

But there have to be people on the ground to help it land

There’s a whole crew of people who man ropes that pull the blimp to a stop and moor it, and if this accident didn’t occur where the takeoff was those people wouldn’t be in place.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

But:

“The accident happened at the Reichelsheim aerodrome, near Friedberg in central Germany as the aircraft was coming in to land.”

So they were at the landing site anyway. And yes it requires crew to moor it, but if you’re in trouble don’t you just worry about getting the hell out?

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem there is that you then have an unmanned blimp flying around on fire

at least this way the pilot was able to ensure that it went down in a way that didn’t take out a bunch of random people or houses or whatever.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that was the reasoning,

then the pilot was very heroic. But, but, but…. It’s a BLIMP. How dangerous can it really be?

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it's on fire? Very.

You saw the pictures, it’s not as bad as the Hindenburg but it’s still a ball of flaming gas and fabric.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fire is overrated.

The gas in the blimp is not flammable. The only thing to burn is the fabric and the gas in the engines. Yes, it could be a danger I suppose, but it looks like fairly rural country they were in, not like downtown Berlin or something.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was just faking his own death

He let everybody out and then went up high in the sky before bailing with a parachute and using the smoke to mask his escape

by tootthekazoo on Jun 13, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd assume he got low enough to let everybody jump out, but was not in a place where landing was feasible

And was hoping to either save the blimp, or didn’t want to jump out and let the blimp crash land at random and kill people on the ground.

Must have gained altitude so he could try and return to an airstrip or something, but instead the blimp caught fire and crashed horrifically.

by HititHere on Jun 13, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've got a single ticket for a game in August, that I need to change out for a pair of tickets to the same game.

Any ideas on the best way to do this? Does the team exchange tickets at all? Just buy new ones and hope I get a hit on stubhub?

by BigR on Jun 13, 2011 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Go to Safeco Field (and only Safeco Field, not a team store).

They have at ticket exchange window. They will buy back your ticket at face value with a credit toward the purchase of other ticket(s). You can then make up the difference in cash or use the ticket value to buy two tickets in a cheaper seating section. It’s a pretty painless process.

by harkening on Jun 13, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was something I was wondering about

we did the 6-pack, and find there are two games that my seatmate can’t make, and I’d love to swap them for a later game. Wasn’t sure if I should call and ask, or just head down and hope.

by msb on Jun 13, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

At the ticket windows along Edgar Martinez Drive,

east (of course) of First Avenue Dave Niehaus Way, there are windows specifically marked as “Ticket Exchange.” I’ve used them to swap tickets from a 16-game pack. The key is that the packages usually have tickets at a lower price than single game prices. So you’ll have to make up the face value difference.

Even if you swap for the exact same seat, because the tickets you are swapping for is not part of the pack, you’ll pay the premium. The team stores don’t have ticket exchange, which is why you have to go to the Safeco box office.

by harkening on Jun 13, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I’m out of town and want to get it figured out ahead of time, but I’m sure if they do it at the stadium they’ll do it ahead of time online.

by BigR on Jun 13, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Favorite Stupid Summer Movie is Driven

Sylvester Stallone, Burt Reynolds, some random young guys, and Estella Warren make a racing move that was supposed to be F1, but switched to CART for budget reasons. Features a super-thin plot, fun yet ludicrous race scenes, a SWEET electronica score by BT, and Estella Warren in a tight red swimsuit. Instant win.

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 13, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

It's a totally ridiculous movie, but I love it because around the horrible CGI and plot you can see hints of the 2001 CART season and drivers.

I was on the road covering CART that year, so it’s kinda neat seeing glimpses of that season around all the awfulness. I’m convinced that this movie and Days of Thunder convinced most rational Americans that racing series, drivers, and race fans are a series of absolute mouth-breathing morons.

by Chris Hafner on Jun 13, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there are a bunch of cameos of real drivers in the build-up scene before the last race...

Juan Pablo Montoya, Jacques Villeneuve, and others that I don’t remember offhand.

But absolutely, the movie didn’t do any favors for the overall perception of racing movies.
Which brings me to my other favorite, the remake of Gone in 60 Seconds. Godawful movie that I rented enough times to more than cover the cost of the DVD, before I got it in a discount bin at Target.

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 13, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, he also did "The Rock" with Ed Harris and Sean Connery.

Which was pretty much the best action flick of the 90s, as well as being Michael Bay’s one redeeming release.

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 13, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I'm not even being sarcastic. I love Nic Cage.

The Rock, Face/Off, Con Air, Gone in 60 Seconds, Snake Eyes, National Treasure. These are such enjoyable popcorn flicks where its like “Okay brain, you go sleep now.”

He’s so fascinating to me because at the same time I think he was amazing in Adaptation, I love Kick-Ass, he killed it in Leaving Las Vegas. How can 1 man be so bad and so good? He’s crazy.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

These are great bad movies. Its fun. Con Air was one of the funnest movies I've ever seen.

Its got John Malkovich, Steve Buscemi, Ving Rhames, John Cusack, and Nicolas Cage. Which part of that cast isn’t awesome?

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Here's a good review with stick figure drawings.

If anyone hasn’t seen this movie needs an excuse to, read about it here

I can’t decide on a favorite line. “Taking a shit” ? “Hi my name is Jerry Owens, Im with solar panel accessories, we have an 11 oclock appointment” ? These seem so simple, but I love them so much.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but one of those actors is not like the other.

The same with The Rock. Those movies are cases of a film being awesome inspite of Nic Cage not because of him.

by Robert on Jun 13, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nic Cage is to modern Hollywood what Liza Minelli was to 60s and 70s Broadway:

A talented actor with the pedigree of a famous family in the business who makes nothing but vehicle projects. He’s a living parable on the importance of career decisions.

by harkening on Jun 13, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

So bad it's good!

It was his first movie, and it was made in the mid-80s, satirizing the Valley Girl culture, which carries with it exactly what you would expect, quality-wise.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like I can already perfectly imagine a young Nic Cage doing his best "Cool guy" impression.

It’s stunning that a few years later he does the amazing Raising Arizona.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not good, but compared to Driven it's Citizen Kane.

Both movies suffer from one of the most aggravating traits I’ve ever seen in a racing movie – at one point the hero just has enough and decides to finally put the gas pedal down to the floor. Then he just flies past everybody else, as his car channels his rage/frustration/elation/emotional breakthrough.

But why wasn’t he already going as quickly as he could? And wouldn’t everybody else have been going as quickly as they could, too?

by Chris Hafner on Jun 13, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm so glad I'm not the only one that notices this.

Drives me INSANE.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

This and the never-ending gearbox.

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 13, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't really followed this whole thing

but the “Gay girl in Damascus” blogger hoax thing is pretty funny. Especially now that the Guardian has talked to the guy that was the “gay girl” about why he did what he did. My favorite line?

"I regret that a lot of people feel that I led them on

No, that’s not right. They don’t feel that you led them on. You DID lead them on. You are a straight male American, none of which is “gay girl in Damascus”. The fact that this guy bsically did this a s a writing exercise makes me want to punch him in the face.

by pdb on Jun 13, 2011 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Very ugly situation.
But why had he exchanged many hundreds of emails with a woman in Canada, Sandra Bagaria, who believed herself to be having a romantic relationship with the blogger?

“I feel really guilty about that … I got caught up in the moment and it seemed … fun. And I feel a little like shit about that.” He denied having been sexually excited by the interaction: “I don’t want to go into that aspect particularly of it.”

A little? You realize how much time and emotion went into many of those emails coming at you, right?

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by perfectstrat on Jun 13, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember a story on Dateline about a woman who left her husband for a guy she met on the internet.

And then it turned out the guy was actually a girl pretending to be a guy. She still left her husband for her anyway.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 13, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like her style.

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by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the movie Catfish.

Which is a totally awesome movie, in case anybody is wondering.

by HititHere on Jun 13, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going under

If you’ve ever clicked my signature, you know I write for a website covering high school sports in San Francisco. As written here, the site needs to raise about $60,000 to stay up and running, as the editor is moving back down to Southern California, and I (one of the sites more frequent writers these last few months) am going off to college in SoCal as well.

After the normal initial donation period, we’ve really stagnated in getting donations in. Some ideas for grants have been floated — Kickstarter.com for one — but I’m wondering if the LL think tank has any other fundraising ideas. We’re the only media outlet that covers high school sports consistently and with superb quality in San Francisco, but it doesn’t look like it will continue much longer. Any suggestions on how to keep the site afloat?

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by perfectstrat on Jun 13, 2011 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Take hostages.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 13, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would probably take too many to raise $60k

But our softball team (mostly mid-upper 20s dudes) made a decent amount of money to send ourselves to a state tournament.

by d0nkey on Jun 13, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

How good does perfectstrat look in a bikini?

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by JAH on Jun 13, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sucked in by the Food Network vortex.

and looking over the potential new ‘stars’. Can’t say I would want to see what any of them had to say, let alone cook.

by msb on Jun 13, 2011 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

So I've heard you guys complain about Bleacher Report before I think...

I happened to stumble on an article today titled Seattle Mariners: 5 Inefficient Draft Picks in 2011

It’s impressive. It’s like he understood what players were taken and their relative abilities, and then completely failed to understand what the draft is for.

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by JY on Jun 13, 2011 11:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure he did.

I remember reading some old archives a while back about Coach’s high school grades, and wasn’t sure what to make of it.

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by perfectstrat on Jun 14, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I graduated.

No problem. I just didn’t have the grades to get into one of your fancy “colleges”

by Coach Owens on Jun 14, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about one of our unfancy colleges, like Wazzu?

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by bluemax on Jun 14, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever all state schools are the same

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by bluemax on Jun 14, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll give him credit. He's still in high school and he's probably ahead of most kids his age and on the right track.

Some of the things he says are odd, like what he said about Marlette not being ready for the majors, but he’ll probably come around to understand. I read some of the things I wrote when I was a teenager or even in my early to mid 20s and its like “Wow”

Shoot, I’ll probably look back one day at some of the things I say right now and think Im an idiot.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 14, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

What the
Solid baseball franchises let young players develop rather than going after big money free agents. Draft good talent and build up the middle with pitching, catching and solid up the middle defense, then trade your marginal prospects to fill in the blanks.

This is an odd thing to have on your author bio.

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by bluemax on Jun 14, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I didn't bother to check his profile, I just assumed he was college level or something.

If I had tried to analyze much of anything in sports around that age, it probably wouldn’t have come off well, even though by his age I had followed a couple of different drafts. So I’d like to be somewhat sympathetic, but the whole thing just reminds me of the trend to give a draft a grade as soon as it’s in the books, which doesn’t seem right.

And complaining that a 24th-round pick was wasted? That’s just silly.

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by JY on Jun 14, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

True.

Playing devils advocate: The baseball draft is so messed up and stupid, I could understand confusion if you didn’t follow it for a few years.

He should probably just note two key things: You don’t draft for need, and high school players don’t play in the bigs right away. They actually do learn things in the minor leagues, you don’t have to go to college to get better at baseball.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 14, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

As a corollary to "you don't draft for need", redundancy is not inherently bad.

Most players don’t pan out and the depth you have now can help you focus efforts on other needs later on.

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by JY on Jun 14, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Troll alert

Deadspin’s MLB realignment fix? Move the Mariners to Oklahoma City. I think it’s a good joke, though shift to NHL/NBA-style West/East regional divisions is probably more drastic than MLB wants to take.

by yuniform on Jun 14, 2011 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought this was hilarious.

It’s super unlikely it happens though; no way MLB gives up the Northwest media market.

"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps

by perfectstrat on Jun 14, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

We do have the most miles on our travel itinerary, every year.

If they did do the regional re-alignment and stuck to the unbalanced schedule, we’d be one of the teams to benefit the most, at least logistically.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Jun 14, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

We got something out of nothing!

More evidence that this front office is full of magicians.

"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps

by perfectstrat on Jun 14, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, you're right...

I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 14, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wierd.

Indians Prospect Insider
   Lake County infielder Kyle Smith and Akron infielder Matt Lawson have both retired.

by msb on Jun 14, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh, I didn't know that the Mariners signed Tony Butler. (Put him in Everett)

At least that’s one player from the Bedard trade that didn’t turn out well for the Orioles.

by Coach Owens on Jun 14, 2011 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn't know he was going to Everett.

Hooray! I player I recognize playing close to home!

Sobriety is starting to feel normal.

by Thingray on Jun 14, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since Fontaine is no longer running our drafts, he is now the tallest man on the roster.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Jun 14, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

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