Many Words on Dustin Ackley
Note: I wrote this for the fantasy baseball page FakeTeams. It is not really about fantasy per se (thanks), but I wanted to add this disclaimer to show why A.) I don't talk about defense and B.) Numbers like RBI are cited. I respect you guys too much to not mention this!
Frankly, I don't know why I have to keep defending Dustin Ackley. Typically, a player will come into the league with a lot of hype and people won't be so quick to judge a slow start. It seems to me that if you are an actual baseball fan that has watched baseball for more than a couple of years, you'd know not to judge a player on small sample sizes and that there is an adjustment period. It doesn't appear that's the case anymore.
Maybe in an age where you can instantly watch a movie on Netflix, Americans have lost that thing called patience. It would explain why participation in Little Leagues is significantly down in the last 10 years, mostly because kids are calling baseball "boring" If Adrian Peterson can dominate football in his first season, if Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco can be good as rookies, if Blake Griffin can win the Slam Dunk contest as a rookie, then why can't my favorite baseball player win an MVP as a rookie?
Jason Heyward just had one of the best rookie seasons you'll ever see, yet in the grand scheme of things it seemed very "meh." Baseball got even unluckier when it appeared that the leagues best pitcher (not best rookie, but best PITCHER) could have been Stephen Strasburg last season, and then we lost him.
So in comes Dustin Ackley as the clear-cut #2 pick in the 2009 draft. There was just as little doubt that Ackley was the 2nd best prospect in the draft as there was that Strasburg was the best. He was one of the purest hitters you'd ever see coming out of college, with a sweet left-handed swing, top-end speed, a keen eye, and a potential for more power than most guys of his stature.
Yet it seemed almost immediately that his detractors started coming out of the woodwork. "He won't ever hit for power" "His speed isn't that great" "Defense blah blah blah"
Well, even if the defense is an issue, it shouldn't affect fantasy owners in the short-term. The Mariners are committed to him at 2nd base. If Craig Biggio could eventually move from catcher to 2B, then Ackley will be able to move from centerfield to 2B until he has proven completely helpless. That's where his value will be best utilized by the organization.
So, we have college numbers, and over a full year of minor league numbers. Let's take a look at the REAL prospects of Dustin Ackley as a hitter and fantasy-player.
College
Ackley went to the University of North Carolina after earning some All-American accolades in high school as a third baseman and pitcher. He broke out right away, winning National Freshman of the Year honors after hitting .402/.448/.591 and leading the nation in hits. He hit 10 HR, stole 11 bases, scored 74 runs, and had a 30/21 BB/K ratio.
Nobody would blame him for not being able to top one of the greatest freshman seasons ever, but he did it anyway. Ackley hit .417/.503/.597 with 7 HR, a school-record 82 R, 19 SB, and a 53/27 BB/K ratio.
Ackley broke out the whomping stick in his junior year and hit .417/.517/.763, 22 HR, 13 SB, 75 R, and a 50/34 K/BB ratio. Ackley is the only player in UNC history to hit over .400 twice in his career, and he did it three times.
To break it out in simple terms; Dustin Ackley is one of the top college baseball players of our generation. The only thing that overshadowed him was Stephen Strasburg.
2009 Arizona Fall League
Ackley was drafted #2 by the Seattle Mariners and since he was signed at the deadline, didn't make his pro debut that year. He got his first taste of pro ball in the Arizona Fall League. Ackley hit .315/.412/.425. Yes, it is the AFL but still - there are good prospects and players in the fall league, and Ackley was amongst the best.
This is one of my favorite arguments of people who look for something bad to say about a prospect. "It's the Arizona Fall League, that's why he did good." (Similarly, when its a league known for hitting like the PCL or California League) My only answer is "I'm sorry. Should he have done bad?" Even if a player is hitting on the moon, I'd prefer he did good than bad. Ackley hadn't played organized baseball in months, and got right into his stride.
2010 AA West Tenn
He debuted in 2010 with Double-A West Tenn. He got off to a horrible start and hit .147/.289/.227 in 90 plate appearances in April. Basically, this is where anybody that dislikes Ackley get all of their ammo. His first month of professional baseball.
I'm not saying that it's not a month that happened. It is something to be accounted for. He hit really bad for a month in 2010.
His overall line in West Tenn ended up at .263/.389/.384, 2 HR, 29 RBI, 21 doubles, 55 BB, 41 K's, 8 SB over 350 PA's before being promoted to AAA.
The negatives: Ackley didn't flash any power. Even when he hit well, he wasn't hitting home runs. Not expected to fill out immediately and become a power hitter, the hope was and still is that Ackley can develop something like 15-20 HR power, and he only hit 2 in a little over 3 months at AA. People expecting more speed were also disappointed, as Ackley "only" stole 8 in a little over a half-season, despite getting on base so much. Additionally, Ackley hit the ball on the ground 56% and only 12% line drives.
The positives: After April, Ackley was almost everything he was expected to be and in some cases, more. He had a .180 BABIP in April, and that immediately shot up to .355 in May and so all of the rest of his numbers shot up too. In 101 May PA's: .303/.475/.447 was his triple slash. He had a .421 wOBA, a .144 ISO, walked 21.8% of the time and struck out only 12.9%. In 119 June PA's: .294/.387/.451, .369 wOBA, .157 ISO, 13.4% walks, 9.2% K's and line drives were up to 14%.
Ackley was hitting for average, drawing a ridiculous amount of walks, limiting strikeouts, displaying fair power for a player of his size, and because his BB/K numbers were still elite in April, one can argue that many of his failures were attributed to BABIP. To be fair, he was not yet displaying the 20/20 (or maybe 15/30) kind of numbers many people were expecting.
After 40 PA's in July, Ackley hit .333/.400/.389 and was promoted to AAA Tacoma.
2010 AAA Tacoma
Ackley was one of the youngest hitters in AAA at 22-years-old and still in his first pro season. His numbers kind of got all "reversey" (A word I'm allowed to make up) when he got there. His strikeouts outnumbered his walks for the first time, but he was displaying more power. His final line in 237 PA's was .274/.338/.439, 5 HR, 23 RBI, 12 doubles, 4 triples, 2 stolen bases, 20/38 BB/K ratio, .165 ISO.
His road numbers were significantly better than his home numbers.
HOME: .253/.315/.394
ROAD: .292/.357/.478
Though the PCL is known as a hitting league, Tacoma's park factors show that it is much tougher on hitters than say Colorado, Reno, or Tuscon. And even tougher on left-handed hitters. You could surmise that his home numbers were hampered by the fact that it's a tougher stadium to play in than most in the PCL, and conversely that his road numbers were helped by the rest of the PCL.
The negatives: Ackley's overall numbers were less than expected. His minor league best K/BB ratio numbers suffered, though they were still better than average. His OBP should be his greatest strength, and it wasn't. He also stole only 2 bases.
The positives: He was still one of the youngest hitters in the league, and holding his own. Despite the reputation that a AAA pitcher may get as being "bad" because they are often older veterans that haven't been able to stick in the major leagues, or not good enough to get called up, they are still significantly talented pitchers and in many cases much older than Ackley. His power numbers shot up and were closer to the 15 HR per season range we would hope for. And though he stole only 2 bases, his 4 triples in less than half-a-season (and 8 triples overall) show that he really does have significant speed and perhaps just wasn't getting enough stolen base opportunities, green light, that sort of thing. Stealing bases is more than just speed, it is an artform. So it's still too early to tell if Ackley doesn't steal bases because of opportunity, or because he's not a great base stealer.
2010 Arizona Fall League
Ackley followed up his very good 2009 AFL with an MVP performance in 2010:
.424/.581/.758, 4 HR, 19 RBI, 28 R, 5 for 5 on stolen bases.
Again, say what you want about the AFL, I'll probably agree with you. It was only 20 games, but on the same token, look at his counting stats in only 20 games. To me, it shows that within Dustin Ackley is a lot of talent. Whether or not that can be tapped into on a consistent basis is the same question we have to ask ourselves about every prospect.
2011 AAA Tacoma
He returned to AAA Tacoma this season to work on his second base defense, refine his hitting, and run down his Super Two clock. Like in 2010, he did not hit the ground running.
In 114 April PA's: .211/.333/.305, .094 ISO, 2 HR, 15.8% BB, 14.9% K, 55% GB, 15% LD, .237 BABIP, 4 SB
The average and power is bad, the groundballs are discouraging. However, the BB/K is still elite, and his line drives have been up since he arrived in Tacoma.
If he can continue what he's done in May however, he'll be exactly the player everyone has expected, wanted, or hoped for:
(10 Games) 50 PA's, .300/.420/.600, .300 ISO, 3 HR, 18% BB, 10% K, 43% GB, 17% LD, .281 BABIP, 2 SB
In this recent stretch he's hit for average, power, speed, with an incredible eye at the plate and without a BABIP he's capable of.
Conclusion on Minor Leagues thus far:
Positives: Ackley has an elite eye. There's no denying that his BB/K ratio is amongst the best in the minors and could translate into amongst the best in the major leagues. On par with a Daric Barton or a Billy Butler type player, but perhaps with less strikeouts. Even when he's bad, he's great at this.
In 85 AAA games total he's hit .259/.348/.421, 10 HR, 18 doubles, 39 RBI, 8 SB, 4 CS, 56 R. I think his power is a little underrated at this point. Yes, its going to be tougher to translate that power to the major leagues, especially Safeco Field, but it's not super easy to hit in Tacoma either.
Negatives: His slow starts are discouraging and it's not typical of elite players to be so "dead-looking" for month-long stretches. He can look so good at times (AFL, a month here and there) and also at times look so bad.
He's got a low overall average throughout his time in the minor leagues. Hoping he develops into a .300 hitter and not a .275 hitter, and one who is able to spray line drives and opposite field doubles.
More discouraging than his low stolen base total, is his low success rate on his 12 attempts at AAA.
Splits:
I don't know exactly what to think of his splits. While he struggles to hit lefties for a higher average, he actually has a higher OPS against lefties this season:
vs Lefties: .219/.395/.375
vs Righties: .243/.350/.388
Also, last season he was better on the road in the PCL than at home. This season, its the opposite.
HOME: .317/.427/.556, 4 HR, 16% BB, 13.3% K, 42% GB, 20% LD, .327 BABIP, .239 ISO, .415 wOBA
ROAD: .167/.303/.250, 1 HR, 16.9% BB, 13.5% K, 58% GB, 12% LD, .186 BABIP, .083 ISO, .266 wOBA
What these mean to me:
On the bright side, his low road BABIP is going to drive down his other numbers. I also like that no matter the situation, Ackley is going to draw a lot of walks and limit strikeouts. On the other hand, when he drives more balls into the ground more often, of course his BABIP is going to go down because there's a lower BABIP on groundballs compared to line drives.
When Ackley is hitting line drives, limiting grounders, he's going to be a good hitter because of superior BB/K numbers and a good power/speed combination.
Translation to the Pros
Barring some shocking move, Ackley will be playing his pro games for the Seattle Mariners for at least the first few years of his career. Safeco is a notorious pitchers park, which should limit most players abilities. How should it affect Ackley specifically?
Safeco's splits for lefties and righties is equal when comparing overall wOBA. Per StatCorner, the 96/96 wOBA split means hitters are going to have a tougher time than average.
Splitting it further, it is easier for lefties to hit home runs in Safeco because of the shorter porch in right (94/84 split) but this also limits lefties on doubles and triples (83/101 on doubles, 60/92 on triples) However, line drives occur at a higher rate at Safeco for both sides of the plate (108/108) which is encouraging for a player like Ackley if he's hitting 20% line drives.
I had never actually seen these splits in Safeco before, never seen it broken down this way, but it makes a lot of sense when I look at it. Despite his speed and his ability to put the ball in play hundreds of times a year, Ichiro was never an elite doubles or triples hitter. Or at least not the kind of totals you would expect.
Ackley will spend the majority of time in Safeco, but also spend a significant amount of time in Oakland, LAA, and Texas. Oakland and LAA also have slightly below average park factors for hitters. Texas however has a 156/145 park factor on triples and a 120/109 park factor on home runs. Oakland lefties have a 118 park factor on triples. It's a really small thing, but I'm just looking at every angle I can think of. There are still other places that will kill line drive hitting lefties.
Conclusion on potential pro numbers:
Based on everything I've seen, I have my doubts that Ackley will ever hit for a high batting average. It seems like he should hit for a high average, but because he uses his eye to get on base so much, its hard to conclude what he would do if he ever got the bat off his shoulder. Still, he hit well over .400 in his career at North Carolina, so maybe somewhere in there are a few high average seasons.
His on-base percentage is unquestionable. He'll draw a lot of walks, and even if he hits .270, could reach at nearly .400 or better. His power comes and goes, but lately its been there. In his time in AAA, hes hit for significant power for a small statured second baseman and I believe that with Safeco as his home park he could hit between 15 and 20 home runs in his prime. Maybe 10 to 15 home runs in his first couple of seasons. I think the potential is there for 20 home runs, perhaps Craig Biggio type power. I think doubles and triples could be similar to Ichiro, but maybe slightly higher if he is stroking more line drives. 30-35 doubles, 5-10 triples seems like a good estimate in his prime.
Stolen bases are the big question mark. All the reports about elite speed, yet not the stolen bases numbers you would expect. However, stolen bases are very dependent on team, coach, situation, and opportunity. Whether Ackley is a good base stealer would be easier for a person like me to evaluate when he's in the majors, and seeing how often he gets the green light from Eric Wedge and how often he is in the right spot. Wedge and the Mariners seem to like grabbing extra bases, have focused on players like Chone Figgins, and will require more small ball to score because of the size of the park. I think Ackley is more than capable of 20 stolen bases during a full season, and has potential to grab 30 plus with Seattle. It will be hard to say until he actually gets here, but I believe the speed at least to be real.
If I attempted to venture a guess on what a regular Dustin Ackley season would be like, I suppose I would conclude this:
.275/.380/.440, 15 HR, 75 RBI, 90 R, 20 SB, 30 doubles, 8 triples
I think that's a typical season he is capable of. Which would mean sometimes he can eclipse that and sometimes he won't quite get there.
Comps:
When it comes to plate discipline and power, I think Daric Barton 2010 is a good start. He walks, doesn't strike out, has 10-15 HR power, a .359 wOBA. I think what would separate the two would be the speed, which would increase Ackleys stolen bases and runs over a player like Barton.
Others might think more like 2010 Brett Gardner: .277/.383/.379, 5 HR, 47 SB, 97 R, but with less stolen bases and runs.
Another example might be 2010 Johnny Damon: .271/.355/.401, 8 HR, 11 SB, 81 R, 51 RBI.
Historically, I think the height of what Ackley can become is Craig Biggio. Far be it from me to compare a minor leaguer to a Hall of Famer, but there are similar conclusions for the two men who have been transferred to second base during their pro careers. Biggio was a career .281/.363/.433 hitter who averaged 17 HR, 24 SB, 67 RBI, 105 R, and 38 doubles. The reason Biggio is a Hall of Famer is because that was his average over 20 freakin' seasons. All I'm saying is that I see many similarities in what could be Ackley's prime.
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Well I'm sorry to nitpick with the first comment but since you're publishing...
it’s per se, not persay. It’s latin and translates loosely to ‘in and of itself’.
by Bearskin Rugburn on May 11, 2011 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I haven't looked at the numbers in a while,
but i remember thinking that Brian Roberts might be a reasonable comparison for Ackley. Smallish, fast, with great bat control and plate discipline but primarily gap power. Roberts wasn’t ever a phenomenal player but he has a solid career behind him and I feel better setting my expectations there than at peak Erstad.
by Bearskin Rugburn on May 11, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions
Recently looked at Roberts peak and it was pretty impressive. I don't know that Ackley will ever be a 50 doubles 30-50 stolen base kind of player. But that would be awesome.
@casetines
by Kenneth Arthur on May 11, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess he's what Ackley develops into if he maintains his eye and bulks up just a bit
but does not develop fantastic contact ability. It’s a cautiously optimistic comp. He can certainly be a better player but I’d be happy with that as well.
by Bearskin Rugburn on May 11, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I still think certain of Roberts' seasons are a good comp
Not the 50 steals thing, but, if things break right, a .280/.350-.370/.410 sort of a thing. Roberts circa 2006-7.
Reduced steals and a bit worse defense hurts Ackley, but if he can put up an equivalent line in Safeco (and he could), then that closes the gap some.
If we're making comps...
I haven’t seen Ackley play too much, but from what I’ve seen, his size, swing, and plate discipline kinda reminds me of John Olerud, only with better defensive ability. I still think he can hit for more power than people give him credit for.
Erstad is another good comp that I like. Hope it works out for the kid.
Yeah, you're right
Ackley seems more athletic than Olerud, although that may just be because Olerud is one of the whitest people ever. Ackley has seems to have pretty broad shoulders and might fill out some.
Olerud with 2B-ability is probably more like the 90th-percentile for Ackley.
Ackley has broad shoulders?
Seriously, he’s pretty small. 6’ is a stretch, and he looks kind of slight. That’s not a huge issue – Shawn Green always looked slight and he hit for power, but….Ackley’s just not a big dude.
Fair enough
This is why I’ve been more bullish on his power potential. I didn’t realize how small a dude he really is. And glancing at his player page, I didn’t realize how small Utley is, either. I had always assumed he was like 6’3" or 4", but it says he’s only 6’1", 200 lbs.
I’m about 5’6" myself, so everyone looks taller to me than they really are.
i haven't seen him in person, but a friend who saw him playing in person just awed at how tiny he looked.
@casetines
by Kenneth Arthur on May 11, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That was my initial reaction.
I just couldn’t believe it. Again, it’s not like smaller guys can’t hit the ball with authority, but I was surprised.
Would being small/lean generally correlate to a lower BABIP?
That seems to be what’s killing him in the minors.
Was that me? I saw him in person and he looked like a life-size bobblehead because of the batting helmet
Like a little kid trying to play baseball amongst men.
I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.
Shawn Green is 6 ' 4", so that's not really a good comp either.
Green was definitely scrawny (BR says 6 ’ 4" 190 lbs) and he had a couple peak power seasons in the middle of the ’roid era. But tall guys can get leverage and have an easier time generating power than short guys.
I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.
I'm not much for fantasy ball, but I enjoyed this very much.
If only to fantasize about my favorite minor leaguer.
Yeah, I wasn't going to post it over here when I imagined that it would only be 1000 words or less.
Then it became such a long journey that I figured I would share it here and it really had little to do with “Fantasy” anyway and more to do with what he’s offensively done and capable of.
@casetines
by Kenneth Arthur on May 11, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
You should post this on MinorLeagueBall
just to piss off that Dewey Finn guy. I can’t take anyone who is willing to “stake their reputation” (whatever the hell that means) on a 22-year-old failing at his career choice seriously.
Good piece, hope it was well-received over there.
A couple of broader questions here:
What would you say IS the big “fight” about Dustin Ackley? I don’t really even know anymore. I thought I was the resident pessimist, but I’m fine with your conclusions here. I initially thought there was some disagreement about whether he’d be a big star – some people (the optimists) thought he’d be a year-after-year .300 hitter, and maybe put up a .300/.400/.500 line with some regularity, or perhaps .300/.400/.450. Others (detractors) didn’t think he’d be terrible, but questioned whether he’d be an all-star – they thought he’d be more of a .270/.350/.410 sort of hitter. Now Ackley’s “defenders” have a pretty similar projection. What do you think Ackley’s detractors/haters project for him? Are there a bunch of people who think he’s a bust? Are there still people making Chase Utley comparisons? I honestly don’t know, I’m just wondering what you think the debate looks like these days.
2 – "Basically, this is where anybody that dislikes Ackley get all of their ammo. His first month of professional baseball. " This might be a stretch. Ackley’s not lighting it up in AAA right now, and while there are plenty of reasons to say that it’s another small sample, and there are BABIP issues, etc. (basically, everything Matthew wrote a few days ago), these ‘bad months’ are sort of piling up here. OK, they’re not bad months like his first month in AA was bad, but I think they’ve caused some people to reevaluate his contact/average skills. Not a huge deal, but I think a number of people still thought he’d be a .300 hitter after last year. Now, I think there are fewer out there who believe he’s going to put up .300 averages routinely.
Yeah.. the "fight"
There are still a lot of people that just don’t think he’s very good. Over at minorleagueball, the name Sean Burroughs was evoked. I think there’s a small section of people who think he’s a backup, a small section of people who think he’s a star in the making, and probably the broader middle sees something in between. Which is probably the safe bet. I think a lot of people are actually just annoyed that he’s considered a top 15 prospect. For my money (and my money also says arguing rankings is ridiculous) there’s a lot of value in Ackley’s floor. I don’t have a problem with the ranking because I think he’ll be a solid major leaguer for a long time. I think the talent exists for him to be a star, whether or not he can consistently show it is another question that I’ve pondered today.
You’re right, they’ve got 2 Aprils now instead of just one. And for me it was like “If you didn’t like what he did in West Tenn and you didn’t like what he did in Tacoma, then what do you want from him?” Because he was basically two different kinds of talent. The light-hitting on-base machine and then the more power but striking out more often 2nd baseman. A lot of people point to his overall numbers in 2010, and while we can’t discount a portion of the data for our own benefit, I think it would be a lot different if Ackley had just been consistent for the whole season.
His last 10 games is what I’m hoping he can continue to build on. It seems he goes through an adjustment period at every level and a pretty serious one. I hope people don’t lose faith if he struggles in the majors for a month or two.
@casetines
by Kenneth Arthur on May 11, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa....
I didn’t know the range extended from non-prospect to Chase Utley. Good to know.
I’m totally with you that there’s value in Ackley’s “floor” but I can’t think anyone would argue for him as a top 15 prospect (in all of MLB) either.
I think the best approach is to lump his 2010 and 2011 together and evaluate that. You incorporate a couple of ice cold streaks, some high SLG streaks, and tons and tons of walks. That’s a decent player, but it’s not an elite player, at least at this point. Still, I hope he gets a chance to develop and learn to consistently drive bad pitches.
I think part of it is the "anchoring" mindset that people sometimes get with prospects.
Ackley was an extremely high draft pick. It appears now, almost 2 years later, that he is a high-floor, though somewhat low-ceiling, player. In reality, he’s still a very valuable prospect- someone who can step in and be reasonably expected to contribute at something close to a league-average level, and relatively soon- but he is still more well known for being the 2nd pick in the 2009 draft, and a “bust”. Considering that a draft is essentially a semi-formalized, official “ranking” of draft-eligible prospects by MLB teams, people use it as an anchor for their opinions.
Had Ackley been drafted five, ten, twenty or more picks later, everyone would be lauding the team that drafted him for recognizing his advanced skill and finding a fast-riser and a projected solid contributor. They would have had less of a problem with seeing him for his true ability, and their opinions wouldn’t be clouded by bias caused by his draft position. He would have never been “ranked too high”, but he would have been more appreciated, I believe.
I’m not a “prospect prognosticator”, but the ones I read seem more interested in discussing what he can’t do, or what is presently unknown. Mariners fans, on the other hand, are more genuinely interested in any upgrade can provide over Jack Wilson, and I feel would be more able to give an honest evaluation of him.
I'd say that's a pretty good point. If he was drafted 15th or later, it would be a lot more positive vibes on Dustin Ackley. Like "Wow, what a steal"
@casetines
by Kenneth Arthur on May 12, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
A related issue is that people always go back and debate draft picks based on post-draft results.
Thus, the M’s were “wrong” to pick Ackley, because hey, Mike Trout!
Yeah, and hindsight draft order is going to change every year.
“Hey Jason Heyward should have been #1 that year!”
“Hey Jason Heywards shoulder scares me away from him!”
@casetines
by Kenneth Arthur on May 12, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
As a matter of fact... some imbecile did exactly that.
And used every Mariner woulda/coulda pick in the last five years to proclaim they’re a shit drafting team.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on May 15, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent piece.
I don’t see much point in projecting the future for a guy like Ackley, but it’s still fun to read what other people think. The way I see it, there’s about a 90-100% chance that he will be better than any of our other options at 2B within the next year or so. It might be a little pessimistic of me, but I feel like if he ends up being league average (2.0 WARish) that’ll be a big improvement right there. Any other ability that he shows is just icing on the cake. I mean, how many position players do we have that are even that good right now? Ichiro and Smoak are the only ones that come to mind (although Ichiro is currently at 0 WAR), and possibly Adam Kennedy. I think that he will at least be that good. If I had to make a guess, I would say Ackley is more like a 4.0 to 5.0 WAR player in a few years.
The only way I will be disappointed by Ackley is if he is actually WORSE than Jack Wilson or Brendan Ryan, who currently have -0.1 and -0.2 WAR at this point, respectively. I know it is quite possible that he turns out that way, but there don’t seem to be very many people that think he will crash and burn that bad. Even the people who are doubtful of his abilities project him to be better than what we have in the middle infield right now.
Thanks.
Projecting any player is tough, but I do think there is a point to it or at least it’s an interesting place to begin discussion. Of course, if anyone could predict a prospects future, they’d be paid to NOT write about it on the internet by a major league baseball team that employed them.
@casetines
by Kenneth Arthur on May 11, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, obviously it is important for the team to try to know what to expect.
I’m just saying that I personally don’t have any real use for these predictions. Whatever happens, happens. But it’s still fun to read about once in a while. I enjoyed your article much more than I expected to, given that I don’t really care too much about this kind of discussion usually.

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