Woof
I'm not going to sit here and write out a long recap, because it's late, and I'm not at home, and it's not like there's much of interest to recap anyway. But - man, I thought attending last year's home opener was a complete waste, but this was absolute misery as soon as the pregame festivities were over. I have literally never enjoyed a Mariners game in person less than I did tonight.
I will say that all the pregame stuff was superb, although Adam Moore played the part of Captain Bringdown when the scoreboard introduced him while he was standing on crutches. I don't know if anybody else noticed but Brendan Ryan ran out on the red carpet holding a little camera in his hand, which was cute. Felix, naturally, got raucous applause when he was introduced, but so did Pineda, which was nice to hear. And the whole Dave Niehaus tribute hit just the right note, as Macklemore was excellent, and Marilyn threw the best pitch from someone in a Mariners jersey all night.
Unfortunately, all pregame pageantry is by definition followed by a game, and the game itself was poop. You don't want to read about this game any more than I want to write about it. The only good thing about tonight's game was that the haste with which the Indians achieved a double-digit lead meant that the lines at the new Pen area were manageable by the fifth inning. It's probably a good thing the Mariners ditched that old What a show slogan.
And, of course, the Mariners didn't only get blown out in their home opener on Friday - news also broke that they have a situation with Jack Wilson, who may very well have played his final game in the uniform. Wilson's explanation for taking himself out of Wednesday's game is perfectly rational, but that kind of thing doesn't really fly in sports, and it isn't the first time Wilson's exhibited that sort of behavior, which really rubs teammates and coaches the wrong way. I'm not in a position where I can talk about this situation at length right now, but perhaps that's just as well, because I don't know how this is going to play out. In short, it's bad.
What a Friday to be a Mariners fan. Save us, Doug Fister. And somebody please hit a God damn home run.
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Jack Wilson?
I was just going to throw up a fanpost on the Wilson situation, since I have no idea what’s going on. That’s what happens when you stay away from the computer and TV for a week lol.
I have been to every home opener since 96
I thought, being in DC this year I would miss being there…. Nope!
by dp04 on Apr 9, 2011 1:39 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I don't know shit about shit when it comes to playing in the majors, but I sympathize with Jack.
I obviously wasn’t there and I don’t know what happened, but I’ve had that feeling where I thought that I was clearly not the right person to do a given job on a given day, and I wasn’t going to learn what I needed to learn within in the next 10 minutes.
From what it says in Baker's writeup he was trying to do the right thing
The problem was that Wedge and Wilson got their stories confused. Just tell the the truth. Wilson was basically saying I was really sucky out there and I didn’t want to lose a game for Felix, while Wedge was trying to go with the he was hurt scenario. Their stories didn’t match.
by New England Fan on Apr 9, 2011 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah...
I’m not blaming this on Jack Z, but I’m really tired of all the drama surrounding on this team.
Wedge was trying to protect Wilson by claiming he was hurt. And then Wilson just decided to put the blame on Wedge… which pissed him off and rightly so. I still wish he would have kept his comments out of the press though. I’m not expecting the Mariners to be able to flip him for anything useful, present or future, but I’m sure this cuts those chances even more.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 9, 2011 5:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm confused.
I’m not blaming this on Jack Z, but I’m really tired of all the drama surrounding on this team.
I see that you said you’re not blaming Zduriencik, but you heavily implied thereafter that somehow this is Jack Z’s doing. Why would it be?
Avoid the clap, Jimmy Dugan.
How did I do that?
I mentioned him once to absolve him from blame and never went on to mention him again.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 10, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear ya.
I understand professional sports, blah, blah, blah. But I don’t see how the M’s really believe that switching players who have been among the very best at their position to a new position is a good idea. Any good boss knows you tap into people’s strengths. People perform better when they are confident. This is the second year in a row and it’s obviously isn’t working like they’d planned.
There are two people at fault here, I think: Wilson and Zduriencik
Wilson shouldn’t have taken himself out of the game. Full stop. I don’t care how bad he felt about blowing it for Felix, that’s a flagrant violation of the ‘unwritten rules’ of the game. (Please spare the saber-snark about unwritten rules, blah blah blah — men who play this game sure as shit have the expectation that their teammates are going to go out there and play hard in every situation except when injury prevents it, and if someone doesn’t they respond accordingly — just look at the anonymous quotes Drayer and Baker managed to get from teammates on this subject.) It makes Wilson look like a headcase. And apparently, as Jeff says cryptically, this has happened before with Wilson. (I’d like to know more about that, it’s all vague to me.)
But this is the second year in a row Zduriencik has made a decision that looked good “on paper” to shift a player away from their lifetime position on the theory that “athleticism will win out.” And it’s been a disaster both times.
The decision wasn't made so "athleticism would win out"
It was made because they decided that Ryan is the better shortstop, the one they will be playing when Ackley comes up.
Larry Bernandez.
It makes perfect sense to me to have Ryan at short instead of Wilson.
But for god’s sake, get a real second baseman in there then. I get that Wilson has an expensive contract, but now we’re paying for it in ugly, ugly ways.
If we were really frantic to get rid of him
I don’t see how we couldn’t have talked the Giants into taking him if we sent a decent amount of cash along with him.
Larry Bernandez.
I would think that was Wedge's decision
Zduriencik doesn’t seem like he is so controlling as to dictate roles.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 9, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
No way does the manager (especially a new hire) have the latitude to make such an important decision
That’s an FO call on any franchise that doesn’t employ Tony La Russa or Bobby Cox. I don’t care what the ‘official’ story is, it has to be Zduriencik’s decision.
It was probably Wedge's idea
And Jack Z signed off on it
You really think a veteran ML manager is brought in and told whom to play where?
huh ok
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 9, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We're not talking about a utility-man known for shifting around the field on a moment's notice.
We’re talking about forcing a long-term position shift. It’s inconceivable that this would be left up to the manager. Inconceivable.
Long term position switch?
Until Ackley is here…. Then he gets traded… that was pretty much a given I think, and it’s unlikely he’d be forced to play 2nd for his next team
by WestCoastBias. on Apr 9, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a pretty strong position
In this here article by Baker from way back in February there’s some quotes straight from Wedge himself.
Or rather, I think it goes something like this:
Jack Z: We’re bringing in Brendan Ryan to play shortstop for the Mariners.
Wedge: But I already have a shortstop, Jack Wilson.
Jack Z: We’re bringing in Brendan Ryan to play shortstop for the Mariners.
Wedge: But what do I do with Wilson? Where am I supposed to put him?
Jack Z: We’re bringing in Brendan Ryan to play shortstop for the Mariners.
Wedge: Oh okay.
I don't think Zduriencik is so rude to his manager
I don’t know why you speak with such certainty and conviction when really you’re just speculating.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 9, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
That's an exaggeration
But I do believe it’s a decision made in consult between the Manager and the GM. They have to be on the same page with where the organization is heading with positions and players.
by lemonverbena on Apr 9, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I am exaggerating for comic effect
But I simply cannot believe that such a serious decision as moving a lifetime shortstop to a different position in the field on short(-ish) notice would be done without the say-so or complete agreement of the FO. After all, Brendan Ryan was brought here for a reason, and that wasn’t Wedge’s decision.
Jack Wilson is to blame for taking himself out of the game, and no one else.
Trying to shift blame to anyone for that is crap.
If Wilson isn’t good at 2B, then the managers are to blame for it. Wilson’s job is to play the position he’s given to the best of his ability, not to manage himself.
He was asking about the off-season when the decision was made to move Wilson to 2B.
Avoid the clap, Jimmy Dugan.
I also love it when pitchers pitch through injury
Everyone should play through everything
by Graham MacAree on Apr 9, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It worked so well when we finally got Erik Bedard to man up and do it.
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by JY on Apr 9, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless we're dealing with a universally accepted sensibility (don't turn around and kick the catcher) or written rule,
I don’t like the further punishment doled out for breaking one man’s code. If Wilson really felt like he was in a bad place mentally and wasn’t fit to be on the field, well, I trust his judgment on that. He doesn’t have a history of anything of the sort and it was one incident. For Wedge to be upset, fine. If Wedge wants to confront Jack privately and tell him that he expects players on his team to fight through all that, fine. For Wedge to now lord over Jack’s career as a result of one incident, well, I think that’s more of a reflection on Wedge than it is on Jack.
I think they're both a couple of idiots. All Wilson had to do was shut his crooked mouth
All Wedge had to do was drop it. He was trying to protect his player and say he was hazy, but Jack double crossed him and made up a different lie? Who gives a shit? The best team on the field is theprimary concern to anything else. Big pile of stupid all the way around.
Wedge missed an opportunity
Reporter: “Hey, Jack says you pulled him from the game. What gives?”
Wedge: “I done told you he was hazy, didn’t I?”
by Kermit. on Apr 9, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Someone had to move to an umfamiliar postion
It may as well be the guy on the way out. It’s pretty amazing a player could have this kind of a problem. Shortstops move down to second all the time, sometimes with even less preperation. Wilson’s reaction is unique and hints at a bigger underlying problem. I have a hard time blaming the M’s for the switch other than misjudging Wilson’s character.
by Poochie on Apr 9, 2011 11:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Well yeah.
I singled out Wilson first and foremost for a reason. His behavior is really unprofessional.
I don't think this is case of misjudging Jack's character.
People are treating one event as if it is indicative of something much larger. The information we have available says that Jack was open to moving to second and publicly expressed his willingness to be a team guy there, he embraced his role as a somewhat expendable veteran by helping mentor and apparently doing a good job of it. These are all behaviors that baseball people would describe as professional. Hell, he even came into camp in great shape. These show a dedication to the team.
Then he made two silly errors at an unfamiliar position behind the team’s ace and apparently lost his focus or nerve or whatever and felt he was hurting the team. Ever walk around at night in your house and bump into something you never thought you’d bump into and suddenly you don’t feel like you are invincible in the dark? Jack bumped into an ottoman. I don’t think it’s fair to question his integrity as a baseball player and human being based on that.
by abender20 on Apr 9, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
It's not quite just one event
I don’t know how much of it is public knowledge, but Wilson’s had questions about his work ethic in the past. I don’t think it means anything still, but for full disclosure, it has come up in the past.
Care to share some more? With the stipulation that unconfirmable rumors are unconfirmable?
Because although I haven’t exactly been paying a huge amount of attention, the impression I always got of him from his time in Pittsburgh is that he was a “scrappy white dude” gamer along the lines of Willie Ballgame or Jamey Carroll, etc. Never heard anything about him being a layabout.
That and Z, if I recall correctly, commented off the record
How great of a character guy Wilson was and how he wanted him to retire a Mariner
by Poochie on Apr 9, 2011 5:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
What I don't get, is that I haven't lived in Seattle since 1991, and only lived there from when I was 4 to 8 years old
But those formative years, and following them after I moved with a passion have made me a diehard Mariners fan for life. Nothing will change it. Nights like these make me wonder why…. I’m close to the Rockies… I could be a Rockies fan…. but no!
Fandom really sucks sometimes.
Believe Big! I mean HUGE... believe Gigantic! like the Titanic.
Mariners Baseball: Believe Big.
by Robert Praetor on Apr 9, 2011 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Eh, it ain't all that bad.
It is but its great too. I’m just drunk tonight and bitching. Go Mariners! Pineda, Ackley, Ichiro, FELIX!
Whatever you were drinking
I want to cases.
Believe Big! I mean HUGE... believe Gigantic! like the Titanic.
Mariners Baseball: Believe Big.
by Robert Praetor on Apr 9, 2011 3:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking as a lifelong Saints fan, our loyalty WILL pay of eventually.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Apr 9, 2011 9:55 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I feel for the people that went to this game.
But for me, I was entertained and fascinated by the epic 4th inning meltdown. Although, I did not pay attention to the rest of the game until the final inning. According to Kirby Arnold, this team hasn’t given up 10 runs in an inning since May 8, 2003, or 10 hits in an inning since May 28, 2000. So yeah, ironically, the last time we’ve experience a meltdown of this magnitude the team was actually good (+90 wins).
Hi all, new poster here.
May 23rd, 2006, my 21st birthday, we made the trek from central California to see my beloved Mariners play for the first time. They lost 14-4 to the Orioles, giving up 9 runs in the top if the ninth before getting an out. This is how i felt then.
Oh and I agree with Jeff
Some fucking home runs would be swell.
That was phenomenal.
Take a hint Chone!
M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA SanFranPreps
by perfectstrat on Apr 9, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
There were no pancakes to be found tonight....
lemon ricotta or otherwise.
I miss Dave. He could even make games like this tolerable.
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I wanted a grand salami in the ninth so damn bad.
I almost bolted for the ferry before that… but stayed in the lower concourse after they loaded the bases. Stayed just in case… alas…
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 9, 2011 2:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Common Mariners. Take a page from the Sounders book.
If any fans have ever deserved a refund, it was tonight at Safeco. That fuckin sucked.
Agreed
I felt dirty leaving that game knowing I paid money to go. To paraphrase Denise Green, The Mariners are who we thought they are.
I paid more than face for my seats...
because I tried to fool myself into thinking I could miss a chance to pay my respects to Dave.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 9, 2011 4:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, no. Baseball has around 81 home games and if they had to refund tickets every time they embarass themselves they won't have any money left
Baseball has around 81 home games and if they had to refund tickets every time they embarrass themselves they won’t have any money left. They definitely made a lot of money in last night’s game
Red Sox fans were already doing that.
Don’t be like Red Sox fans.
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by JY on Apr 9, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
Look at the bright side...
Take away the 4th inning and we won!
Honestly the excitement of the bottom of the ninth made it worth while
The only people left at the ballpark were drunks and insane fans like me. There was chanting (without scoreboard prompting), screaming, rally caps and all manner of good fandom and energy happening. Aside from the tribute, that was the best part of it by a long shot and one of the better Seattle fan moments I’ve been around recently.
by Smegmalicious on Apr 9, 2011 4:53 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I was at Griffey's first game back in Seattle when he was still with Cincy
After the pre-game hoopla, I turned to the guy sitting next to me and said “I could leave right now and be happy.”
Then of course the final of that game was like 16-2, but I still felt that way when I left.
Hopefully at least a few people left this game feeling that same way.
"And somebody please hit a God damn home run."
after the first half of that game I’d have settled for something out of the infield.
by msb on Apr 9, 2011 7:25 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I stopped watching in the 3rd inning because I had work to do
Decided to tune in about an hour so later on, and when I saw the score I reactively said, “Holy shit.” I wasn’t even thinking about it, it just…happened. Never did that before.
I’ve always been aware of my fandom for a franchise that’s sucked for a while now, but this game is the first time I felt legitimate embarrassment in being an M’s fan. A win today would be fantastic.
by Aaroniero Arruruerie on Apr 9, 2011 8:14 AM PDT reply actions
Embarrassment?
I don’t get that. I’m a lifelong, franchise-existence long M’s fan, but embarrassment doesn’t come into it. They suck, I don’t.
by lemonverbena on Apr 9, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Jesus Christ I go out and get drunk just once
and the fucking team goes tits up. Also, I think its time the Mariners finally addressed the clubhouse chemistry situation by getting some good players and winning some fucking ball games.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 9, 2011 8:21 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The amazing thing about this situation
is, until that inning, Wilson looked absolutely fantastic at second base.
by Poochie on Apr 9, 2011 8:51 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
That's the most confusing thing about this, he was doing really well. That no-look throw on that double play? I mean, come on Jack. Not many players could do that.
Keep your head up and get back out there, man.
by sanford_and_son on Apr 9, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Completely agreed.
Those consecutive misplays are among the most unexpected things I’ve seen this season.
Sec331 reminded me that Wilson was talking about retirement last year when he was on the DL again.
from MLB.com "Wilson found himself on the 15-day disabled list after feeling a strain behind his right knee on May 5 against the Rays, and he pulled his right hamstring during an at-bat with Double-A West Tennessee on a rehab assignment May 15, leaving his return further in doubt.
“There’s nothing I can do to stay positive right now, absolutely nothing,” he said. “I have my family here, and that’s nice, but there’s nothing you can do. You can’t help your team. Being here is tough because you want to cheer them on, but at the same time you can’t really do anything … This is when you actually look at your career and if it’s going to last too much longer,” he said. "
Chone Figgins to the 8 hole!
Do it!
"I can't recommend highly enough going back and watching old clips of Jose Lopez." -Jeff Sullivan
Mendoza line?
Figgins is now batting half of his weight. He needs a shock to the system. That double play last night in the first was Clownshoes…
by ambrosia2112 on Apr 9, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he didn't hit it with amazing power, but it was a line drive. I don't see how you can criticize him too much for that.
Also, it’s been a week. Even looking at stats for fantasy purposes is stupid.
He IS a notoriously slow starter
But man, I was tired of seeing the DPs last year and he’s just continuing this year. The one in the first wasn’t really too much his fault, but like you said he didn’t exactly put a charge in the ball.
Right now, Figgy is literally the last person on the team I want to see at the dish with guys on base. Give me Saunders, Giminez, Langerhans, anybody but Figgins.
I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.
I would drop him in the order to give him fewer ABs, instead of bumping him up to get more. 9th.
I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.
The "Clownshoes" comment was more aimed at Ichiro...
And yes, I realize it’s early, I was kinda piling on Joof’s comment. I know mine was sarcastic…
by ambrosia2112 on Apr 9, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That 4th inning was the worst I can remember.
I guess it was sort of lucky that we couldn’t go to the game. Even if my rational mind tells me we’re probably not this bad (last five games, obviously no major league team is as bad as that 4th inning), it’s pretty fucking demoralizing to see.
I went to get a beer in the 4th
There is no good beer on the third level this year. I spent the entire inning trying to find some. I was in line for the kind I was going to settle for and became so ticked off by the combination of the crappy play and crappy beer that I just left. This is seriously the biggest letdown I’ve felt from this team since they tanked in the 2001 playoffs.
It’s just one loss, but then again…it isn’t. It was the M’s best chance to display their product to thousands of casual fans that likely won’t be back again this season. They handed the Cy Young winner a trophy and they handed Jason Vargas the ball. Felix might have lost that game, but not by 9.
And somebody please hit a God damn home run
Don’t worry, Justin “the Man” Smoak is going to provide plenty of dingers
It was really disappointing last night.
We had a couple deep fly balls, but now of them even reached the warning track. Cust and Smoke both hit hard balls and they just didn’t have the OOMPH. I hope the new roid shipment gets here soon!
(and yes, the last line is a joke…)
by ambrosia2112 on Apr 9, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
12 runs by Cleveland and it's like a portend of the apocalypse
Holy shit I hate Cleveland, they’re not even in our division but they show up every few years and pull some shit then this happens.
That's what I was realizing this morning. For a team in the middle of nowhere, the Indians sure are annoying.
Whether it be the 1995 playoffs, the 2001 12-run meltdown, the whole Arthur Rhodes/Omar Vizquel earring thing, and a fairly annoying playoff series then, or the Hargrove snow day leading to the excellent Ichiro quote, Cleveland is fucking annoying. And if you stop to look at Chief Wahoo, you remember how ridiculously racist that mascot is.
If it weren’t for Major League, I think the Indians would be more hated. Goddamn Snipes, Sheen and President Palmer.
by yuniform on Apr 9, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Plus, Cleveland was part of the Shawn Kemp trade, which doesn't make me like them either.
I have nothing against the Browns, except their uniforms are shit. (As were the Cavs’ blue painter uniforms when Kemp went there.) Also, screw Craig Ehlo and Albert Belle.
Have you ever watched a Gonzaga basketball game?
I’ve met the guy. Classy human being. Wonderful family. But he’s no Joe Morgan.
Mariners fans should have a serious rivalry with the Indians.
You can name a dozen events off the top of your head that happened between the M’s and Cleveland.
You didn’t even mention the Randy Johnson/Kenny Lofton incident in Cleveland, or Lou Piniella kicking his hat all over the infield at the Jake in like ’97.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 9, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Macklemore?
Really, Macklemore?
Seriously?
I thought that it was a nice song.
I don’t think any other local band made a tribute song for Dave and I can’t imagine them having Death Cab for Cutie to come perform again
I'm not a fan of Macklemore, but the thought behind the song is very good and heartfelt. I think streaming the lyrics on the monitors would have been a huge help to the 50+ and/or non-internet savvy crowd who had zero idea who this dude was.
by sanford_and_son on Apr 9, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
What's wrong with Macklemore?
A very good local act, who grew up listening to Dave… Fine if you don’t like the music but c’mon
by WestCoastBias. on Apr 9, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It was awesome. I was sceptical until I listened to the song.
I really thought that he did a great job of telling the story and it was a very nice tribute.
And really, it could have been MUCH worse.
by ambrosia2112 on Apr 9, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought he did well.
Songs like that are almost always cheesy, but this one definitely isn’t as it blends universal themes (Dad teaching him how to play baseball, baseball cards) and local themes (Niehaus, Mariners). Perhaps if people were hearing for the first time it would be different, but I thought it was awesome.
I'm not crazy about Macklemore, or even the song itself either
However, it’s a great tribute and a great message, and I think it was completely appropriate for the ceremony.
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by Griffin Cooper on Apr 9, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Fister is going to no-hit Cleveland today.
Perfect game, probably.
I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.
Finally! I've been waiting for some excitement
Thanks for the heads up
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by Griffin Cooper on Apr 9, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I had the exact same thought as Jeff at the game.
First time I’d ever wished I’d stayed home and skipped a home opener. I thought last year’s opener was jaw-droppingly not fun to watch, but then this game came along to just shit on everyone’s sandwich.
Vargas’ outing was perhaps what surprised me the most. I already know the offense is garbage, but man what a bad time for Vargas to have an off night. I mean, it was one game, but wow things already look far too similar to last year. I hope I’m wrong.
Also, last time I’ll say this, but I think it’s really lame that the team isn’t wearing the teal hats with their stupid teal uniforms, like this Either do it right or don’t it at all. The navy alternates are 100x better.
by sanford_and_son on Apr 9, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions
That link didn't work.
For what it’s worth, I think the navy hats with the teal bill are the best pair with that jersey.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 9, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Tom Wilhelmsen really needs a third pitch...
Live fastball and a nasty curve, and not much else. One pitch looked like a cutter at 87-88, does he have a change up too? He needs something to keep guys from sitting on the curve. And some accuracy
Any chance we can just send him down to work on it/ maybe stretch him out to get him ready to start? He threw 50 pitches, and I know we need bullpen help but he might lose some confidence getting smacked around like that. And he definitely has a lot more talent than the average long relief guy…
Now when I think about it I guess he would be the one to go down when Aardsma is back so that works…
It was either a change or curve that dropped down to like 77.
Pretty nasty in comparison to his 95ish fastball. Dude has definite potential.
by sanford_and_son on Apr 9, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Jack Wilson.
Who gives a shit? Put him in the game and move on.
by zeeehjee on Apr 9, 2011 12:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe tomorrow!
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by JY on Apr 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
@shannondrayer
Wedge on Wilson: we’re working through it. When I feel like we are at the point where we can count on him then we will put him back out there
I’m starting to feel like Eric Wedge is being an asshole about the whole thing.
Yeah kind of
After hearing Wilson’s post game comments to Shannon Drayer last night, I feel really bad for him. He thought he was doing the right thing for the team, and it sounded like he really feels terrible about it now.
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by Griffin Cooper on Apr 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
No kidding.
I’ve gotta say, so far I’m not impressed by Wedge. I think he’s completely botching this situation. Wilson was owning up to his mistakes. Certainly seems like he’s acting like more of a man than Wedge throughout this.
I still think
That Wedge is confused about Wilson’s eyes. Hopefully he gets that sorted out Or maybe Wilson should start wearing sunglasses.
Incidentally (and I'll probably repost this in tonight's Game Thread), but if anyone was looking for another reason to root against the Yankees...
Laugh for up to a minute, shake your head for as many as thirty seconds, chuckle twice, then go back to things that matter.
by abender20 on Apr 9, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I WONT GO TO THE MINORS!!!111
Well, now I will
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