Jack Wilson not badly injured, if injured at all
It seems he was primarily taken out of the game because of his two consecutive errors. You'll recall that Chone Figgins didn't take too kindly to this sort of treatment a year ago.
about 1 year ago
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I didn't see the errors, but I'm of the opinion that pulling him for them is a little ridiculous.
Wedge knows how well Jack plays defense, and that Jack will probably recover nicely.
I hate this kind of 'look at how huge my dong is' type of management move
by Aaron Campeau on Apr 6, 2011 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
You there, play a position you've never played before and then be ostracized when you fail.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Next he'll be telling Wilson to go shave his sideburns.
by ThomasG on Apr 6, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hippy!
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Apr 6, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Waiting for the full story to come out.
I’m hoping there’s some shades of gray we haven’t heard yet. Also confused as to why Jack didn’t bitch out on Wedge in front of cameras. How else do you justify your contract when you’re struggling?
bwaaaaaah?
gbakermariners Wilson wasn’t hurt. Told me he was pulled from game and agrees with decision.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Huh.
Fortunately Jack Wilson is really easy-going
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by Griffin Cooper on Apr 6, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
We should fire Eric Wedge because this sort of reactionary move on his part demonstrates poor impulse control.
by abender20 on Apr 6, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
Brown's coming back!
He still has options available!
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Apr 6, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Blast!
I knew I should’ve rec’d and moved along.
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 6, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
This could be one of those
“his day was rough enough already, no reason to leave him out there any longer” kind of thing. Remember this happened to one of the Seahawks RB’s (Lynch I believe?) after two fumbles last season? PC’s reasoning was that there was no reason to leave him out there to make another mistake. Pull him out, let him breath, and he lives to play another day.
Some people were surprised he didn’t get the day off in the first place.
"This space for rent"
by Thingray on Apr 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The errors were pretty ridiculous
but so was Felix’s 2nd inning and the Ray/League shit show in the 8th. It was just a bad game. Plus Sims and Blowers wouldn’t shut up about their Beltre crush.
Felix winked at me. My life is now complete.
To be fair to Sims and Blowers, the game thread sounds remarkably similar.
"I can't recommend highly enough going back and watching old clips of Jose Lopez." -Jeff Sullivan
Adrian Beltre is a crushworthy human being, though
by pdb on Apr 6, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
no no no
He’s tainted. I don’t crush on Boston stank.
Felix winked at me. My life is now complete.
by katherinekiyoko on Apr 6, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I would literally run someone over with my car if he asked me to
by Aaron Campeau on Apr 6, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hey, Aaron. Adrian asked me to ask if you would you run Jeff Sullivan over with your car
by Matthew on Apr 6, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Was that before or after today's first game thread?
by Aaron Campeau on Apr 6, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That picture from the middle always reminds me of this article.
http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/kevin-youkilis-keeps-everyone-on-bus-awake-with-an,6873/
"I can't recommend highly enough going back and watching old clips of Jose Lopez." -Jeff Sullivan
I admire your principles.
Beltre and Mike Cameron are still righteous enough to merit our forgiveness, though.
What a dick thing to do to a veteran player.
The guy is a proven quality defender, who has moved to a new position and adapted quickly. This is no way to show him up.
Shit reactionary decision.
by EnglishMariner on Apr 6, 2011 3:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I didn't see the game, just heard about it and saw bits and pieces on Gameday. Was Jack pulled mid-inning? Or after they got out of the mess?
If it was mid-inning I can see how it’s probably stupid. If it was between halves, and Jack and Eric got a chance to talk, then who knows what happened?
It’s totally possible Jack was down on himself, was mentally in a bad state of mind, or who knows what else—and reasonably agreed pulling him wasn’t a bad idea.
I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.
by HititHere on Apr 6, 2011 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It was between halves.
I’m kind of with you on this until I hear otherwise.
"This space for rent"
I don't understand all the anger over this move.
If you’re playing basketball, and the guy you’re guarding repeatedly blows by you, you’re going to get pulled. If you play football and repeatedly miss blocks and allow your quarterback to get flattened, you’re going to get pulled. If you repeatedly screw up routine plays, you’re going to get pulled.
"I can't recommend highly enough going back and watching old clips of Jose Lopez." -Jeff Sullivan
The thread is the height of irony.
Reactionary bitchy comments about a potentially reactionary managerial move.
Which is my way of saying,
calm down people. Let more details come out before feeling like you need to express a stance on the matter.
by Matthew on Apr 6, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It probably is not going to be a big deal
I doubt it had anything to do with Wedge thinking Wilson wasn’t giving full effort, he just got some kooky idea in his head that his eyes didn’t look right and from that decided maybe he wasn’t in great shape to play today. Maybe it was more of a “I never should’ve started you today” pull than a “you had two errors rargh” kind of pull.
If anything it’s kind of funny because it furthers the theory that Wedge is obsessed with eyes.
Wilson's face is asymmetrical, his eyes may be more difficult to judge.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Apr 6, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
"I don't care about some built-in excuse about how I'm learning on the fly, or whatever," he said. "There is no excuse for not getting it done at this level to help win a game."
All in all sounds like Wilson’s pissed at himself and this will be no issue going forward.
It's things like this that really endear a player to me. He's taking responsibility for screwing up.
Last year on the dl he acknowledged he was not being the player the M’s traded for and after the thoughts of retiring vowed to fix his career. He showed up in spring training in better shape than I’ve ever seen him in and so far has not disappointed. The only person that can make Jack Wilson better is Jack Wilson and he knows it. Carlos Silva should take note.
by BaronVonBullshit on Apr 6, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jack Wilson is a stand up guy.
Except you know when he falls and misses plays and stuff.
Milton Bradley is my hero. R.I.P. Dave Niehaus
Luis Rodriguez got a double!
Jack Wilson sounds like a good guy. I’m sure he can handle being benched after 2 errors in one inning. I don’t think its a bad move (or a great move). You might as well have a guy out there who isn’t thinking about how he just royally messed up. Like someone above mentioned this would be a normal move for any other sport. While I don’t think all baseball players are mature enough to deal with this sort of move, I feel confident that Jack Wilson will practice a bunch, get better at 2B and move on with his life.
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