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I do intend to write something about this from a more Mariners-centric perspective, but I won't have time for a little while, so in the meantime, here's this! And don't forget about Lucas Luetge!

6 months ago Wbc_029_tiny Jeff Sullivan 105 comments 0 recs  | 

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Sleeping in makes it worse.

You get all the news at once, instead of a staggered series of shocks

by Tamuzi on Dec 8, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Who only brought clothes for Christmas.

2011 Safeco Field Record: 1-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 13-5

by Fin on Dec 8, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Try living on the other side of the Pacific.

I’ve been up for six hours and I’m only just finishing the last of the LL stuff from yesterday before I go out into the lesser interwebs.

by Aussie Mariner on Dec 8, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Starring Brad Pitt!

He must feel so flattered.

Aaron Curry is the first Seahawk since Walter Jones to have a legitimate shot at Hall of Fame induction - John Morgan

by Fearless Frog on Dec 8, 2011 4:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Don't kid yourselves, Lincoln and Armstrong love this

This will bring another great player to SafeCo field several times a year to showcase. That is what Mariner baseball is about. It’s not about winning, it’s about being a place to expand the MLB market to the PNW. The more things they can showcase, the better. When the Yankees come to town, they love it. When the Red Sox are here, great. The Mariners already have their show ponies in Felix and Ichiro, they are not going to sign anyone else of note until they lose their billboard faces. The Mariners are one big marketing scheme, commercials and bobble-head giveaways.

by PullManiac on Dec 8, 2011 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

"Making Sense" never stops conspiracy theorists

They just consider it to be more ammunition for their pet theory. Everything that supports their theory supports it, and everything that doesn’t is evidence of the vast conspiracy.

by robbbbbb on Dec 8, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

While this is obviously batshit insane, I understand why people are frustrated

And if today isn’t a good day to be irrational, I don’t think there IS one.

by Jeff Nye on Dec 8, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to post a rebutal explaining how asanine this post is then decided fuck it.

I ate some hummus instead. I think i made the right decision.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Well
The more things they can showcase, the better. When the Yankees come to town, they love it. When the Red Sox are here, great.

That part is probably right.

Everything is convoluted and a result of the sort of mental gymnastics needed to come to the conclusion that the scientific medical community can invent a cure for cancer but instead of selling that, would prefer to not sell it and instead sell fake cures instead because that way they’ll make more money that way. You know, from people dying of real cancer. Who would probably pay quite a bit for a proven real cure. And for which, a whole lot of industry-funded research could be re-appropriated.

by Matthew on Dec 8, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I agree with that then

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Dec 8, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Especially when pharmaceuticals pour many many Pujols contracts into drug development and don't get shit when it fails.

They lose their patents on chemo drugs and get sawed off in terms of profit there but, nah, they’d rather just watch the bodies stack up.

by abender20 on Dec 8, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

But a broken leg that occurs during a walkoff dinger celebration… definitely not immoral.

by HititHere on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hah

Angels are going to regret the last year of that contract!

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 8, 2011 2:22 PM PST reply actions  

Or once

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 8, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

This signing makes more sense for the Angels

When you think about the state of the media market in LA right now. The Dodgers are, for the first time in decades, looking decidedly vulnerable. The Dodgers are a financial and public relations mess. The Angels have a chance to vault into the #1 spot in one of the biggest baseball markets in the country. So they double-down on the near term and take their best shot at a title.

Of course, there’s a lot that can go wrong with this scenario. Arte Moreno just rolled the dice in a big way.

by robbbbbb on Dec 8, 2011 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

Fuck it, I want Fielder.

Cold War strategy, man. Arms race. I just ordered a new biography of foreign policy architect George Keenan, and he wrote a Long Telegram to the effect of “fuck it, we’re gonna have bigger and badder weapons than they do and we’re going to keep their commie asses contained and starve ’em into submission.” Or at least I think that’s what he said. I haven’t read the book yet.

by Suburban Shocker on Dec 8, 2011 3:47 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I mean, seriously...

My post is about the equivalent (in terms of seriousness and modern-day relevance) of “was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?” Would you say “no politics please” if I had said that?

by Suburban Shocker on Dec 8, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   7 recs

Yes

It’s a site rule, and a pretty non-negotiable one. Your comment in and of itself wasn’t bad, but the “no politics” rule is designed to head off subsequent comments that could get out of control fast. Internet conversations about politics rarely go well, even if they’re old politics, and on a sports site there’s no need to go there at all.

It’s not a big deal, just something to note.

by pdb on Dec 8, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it was fine in this case.

More history than politics to me and we make history cracks all the time.

by Matthew on Dec 8, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to help prove your point

By calling you a commie lover and telling you to go back to Russia to show where a subthread like this could go, but I decided to make it not funny by explaining it in this way. And I have trouble with the history/politics line as well so I usually err on the side of not doing it. But I slip up cause I love history. I also have the problem of contributing to going off-topic quite frequently.

So….Pujols, thanks for forcing me to hate you, probably my favorite current non-Mariner. Just hate the Angels affiliation, not the going for the money or leaving St Louis, cause St Louis is shitty

by Craptastic-J on Dec 8, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, since it did not express a political viewpoint

but was a Mariners-related comment analogizing to (a joking version of) a historical document, I’m going to have to disagree with your interpretation. But I will drop it.

by Suburban Shocker on Dec 8, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Hell of a long way to go for a marketing maneuver, but Pujols to the Angels makes any Fielder signing anticlimactic.

There’s nothing the M’s can do to respond to this, to make their lineup as good as the Angels will be now, or the Rangers were already going to be. So, might as well be resigned to another offseason of blue light special shopping. Meh, all around.

I’m just glad we have Felix, Pineda and sometimes “good Vargas” to contain Pujols.

Take comfort in knowing that 100% of the time that Pujols faced King Felix, he grounded out.

by Chris_FB on Dec 8, 2011 3:58 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I assume shit like this makes a lot more sense though with the added wild card spot.

Even if they can’t afford to resign players next year because of the cost of the contract, they only have to be good enough for 80ish wins, and getting a bunch from one roster spot like they are has to be a big help.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Dec 8, 2011 4:54 PM PST reply actions  

Even if they haven't caught Texas yet

this puts them closer and really the wild card competition will be T-Bay, BoSox, and maybe Cleveland. And what of us in M land ? This seems to widen gap between the haves and have nots.

by jjmalden on Dec 8, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I am strangely not terrified about this.

I don’t think I’m fooling myself, but then again, I am thinking, “Well, if Pujols is only a five-win player going forward, this won’t be so bad.” Clearly, I have moved the bar for evaluating this move in at least one way.

by Razztopia on Dec 8, 2011 5:38 PM PST reply actions  

This is strangely reminiscint of a Yankees-Rays rivalary.

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Dec 8, 2011 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

I'm trying to not be reactionary and stay if not objective than keeping things in context.

But man, it is hard staving off the crippling despair.

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Dec 8, 2011 5:52 PM PST reply actions  

Instead of a Friday Music thread, perhaps there should be a Thursday Night Drink to Forget thread

There can be a poll about people’s favorite liquor when pissed or depressed, and everything.

by Chris_FB on Dec 8, 2011 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Jim Beam Rye Whiskey and Budweiser

I’m too depressed to drink anything good :(

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Dec 8, 2011 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Chivas Regal 12 year man

Have some self-respect. We all deserve better.

by Chris_FB on Dec 8, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck

Pujols and CJ Wilson in the AL West…

Erik Bedard not a Mariner….

Chone Figgins stillllll a Mariner….

This sucks. I should have just attempted baseball hibernation this offseason.

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 8, 2011 6:04 PM PST reply actions  

I find living in Europe to be an elegant solution.

Baseball is still out there when I need it, but it’s ever so simple to ignore when I feel the inevitable failure-pangs.

by Liebkartoffel on Dec 8, 2011 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, would this years Groundhog's Day been shitty for you!

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Dec 8, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably should be in the OT, but this thread seems way more active, so my apologies.

MLB Network is showing Game 5 of the 1995 ALDS with commentary from Lou and David Cone. Some good memories might offset the current mood.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Dec 8, 2011 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

Yep.

It’s only parts of the game, but it’s kinda neat listening to Lou and Cone. Cone admitting he was gassed by Game 5 was eye opening considering how long he hung in there.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Dec 8, 2011 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It really is a good series.

The players/managers involved with the game commenting aren’t just throwing out cliches either. Also, as an aside, David Cone is totally into sabermetrics.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Dec 8, 2011 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

David Cone said that the crowd that day was the most intense he's ever seen for one game.

The guy pitched in New York and Boston and in countless postseason games. Give Seattle a reason to cheer and they will go apeshit for their teams. Fuck anyone that says Seattle fans don’t know when to get loud.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Dec 8, 2011 6:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well at least we have pitching!

feSNOW: Albert just wanted to face real pitching @tai_walker @maurerpower28 and @James_Paxton

"Why ask a failed romance to come see your successful one? You know, it's like inviting the Seattle Mariners to a World Series game. It's just weird for everyone."

by Slurvey on Dec 8, 2011 6:39 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

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