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A Prince Fielder FAQ

I haven't written about Prince Fielder in a little while, so I'm going to write about Prince Fielder. I'm not going to write about George Sherrill, because Matthew already got that. I'm not going to write about Michael Cuddyer, because he already signed somewhere else. I'm not going to write about Yu Darvish, because right now no one knows anything. I'm going to write about Prince Fielder. Which means you're going to think about Prince Fielder! But you were already thinking about Prince Fielder, which is one of the reasons why I'm writing about Prince Fielder. (Prince Fielder)

Instead of a normal post in paragraph form, in this post I will answer questions. They are questions that I am asking myself because that's a hell of a lot easier than asking the audience to submit questions and then going through them one by one. This also helps to preserve the status boundary between you guys and me. You guys wish you were me.

We will begin with the basics and go from there. Note that by "we" I mean "I".

Is Prince Fielder a good baseball player?
He sure is! He has been a very good hitter who has been about as productive as some other very good hitters. He has not been so good at any of the other things that a baseball player has to do, but his very good hitting has offset all that and then some.

Is Prince Fielder a superstar?
I can't really answer that because I don't know what the working definition of "superstar" is. Dictionary.com defines "superstar" as "a person, as a performer or athlete, who enjoys wide recognition, is esteemed for exceptional talent, and is eagerly sought after for his or her services." Under this definition, Prince Fielder is a superstar, but under this definition Willie Bloomquist is also a superstar. Prince Fielder is definitely more of a superstar than Willie Bloomquist, though.

Is Prince Fielder available?
He sure is! Prince Fielder, right now, is a free agent! Anybody could sign him! At least, I've been led to believe that Prince Fielder is a free agent. I guess I've never seen the paperwork for myself, and it's possible that Fielder never filed, or that he did file and then signed without telling anyone. But Prince Fielder is probably a free agent. It would be very weird if he were not.

Could the Mariners use Prince Fielder?
Heavens yes

Are the Mariners interested in pursuing Prince Fielder?
They are, or at least they are believed to be. There is no good reason why they would not be interested.

Are there other teams interested in pursuing Prince Fielder?
There are, which is good, because if there were not, I would be concerned.

Who are those other teams, and which are the most serious?
This is when it gets hard or impossible to know what's going on. We've seen a number of teams linked to Fielder, including the Mariners, Rangers, Blue Jays, Cubs, Orioles, Dodgers, Nationals, and more. Some people say that the Cubs are the favorites. Some people say that the Cubs aren't that interested. Some people say that the Rangers don't have enough money. Some people say that the Rangers have enough money. Some people say that the Blue Jays are more interested in pitching. Some people say that the Blue Jays are not more interested in pitching. We don't know. We hear rumors, but these rumors have giant error bars, and sometimes these rumors cancel each other out. What we can say with absolute certainty is that Fielder will not simply fall into the Mariners' lap. He is highly desirable and available to everybody.

Does Fielder want a long contract?
Yes.

Would Fielder sign a shorter contract?
Yes.

Is Fielder going to get a big contract?
Yes, especially relative to yours.

Do the Mariners have an edge because Jack Zduriencik drafted Fielder with the Brewers?
The more I think about this theory, the more absurd I think it is. Let's say that Zduriencik and Fielder have a good relationship. Let's just say. So what? When do you ever hear about a player being buddy-buddy with his team's GM? Jack Zduriencik is not a coach. His interactions with the roster are infrequent. As for the other side of this, which might suggest that Zduriencik knows more about Fielder than other executives, I can't imagine that's true to any meaningful degree. I don't think the Zduriencik-Fielder relationship is absolutely, completely, 100% negligible, but it's probably so close to being irrelevant that it might as well be irrelevant.

Would Fielder consider signing with Seattle?
Yes, of course he would.

Could the Mariners afford to sign Fielder?
Yes. The Mariners are not such a low-budget team that they couldn't afford a salary like Fielder's, and while fitting him into the 2012 picture could be a little complicated, the team could always trade Jason Vargas, trade Brandon League, or increase payroll. It is not impossible.

Should the Mariners be willing to take on the expected commitment?
That's the whole issue, isn't it? And it's a hard thing to answer, because we can't predict some of the variables. I think the most outspoken people on either side are probably Dave Cameron and Geoff Baker. It seems like Cameron and Baker have been arguing against each other. But the core of Cameron's argument is that Fielder doesn't make great sense for the Mariners at their current payroll level, while the core of Baker's argument is that the Mariners should increase payroll and sign Fielder. They're different things. We need to know about the owners' willingness to invest more money in the team, and, of course, we need to know what kind of contract it would take to bring Fielder in. This could go either way.

Is Fielder a vegan?
No.

Is Fielder a vegetarian?
Not anymore.

Does that matter?
Only if you are very much for or against vegetarianism, and even then, no, shut up, you're annoying.

How long is Fielder going to remain productive?
Who the hell knows? Okay, so he's 27. Apply the standard aging curve and he'll be great for another few years before beginning his decline. On the other hand, his genetic father was already declining around now, and on the other hand, Edgar Martinez was awesome through 40. There are odds, but it's always tricky applying odds to individual people. We know that there will exist some point at which Prince Fielder ceases to be a great Major League Baseball player but we do not and cannot know where that point will be.

Could Fielder's contract cripple the Mariners down the road?
If you take "cripple" to mean "impair", then yes, it could. If you take "cripple" to mean "severely impair or disable," then no, it couldn't, unless the Mariners sign Fielder and then reduce payroll to a level just above Fielder's salary. The Giants' Opening Day payroll in 2010 was right around where the Mariners' last few Opening Day payrolls have been. That Giants team paid $18.5 million to Barry Zito and won the World Series. It also paid $23.6 million to Aaron Rowand and Edgar Renteria. Big contracts can hurt if they bust, but people exaggerate.

Are the Mariners boned if they don't sign Fielder?
No. There is a lot of young talent in the organization, Fielder isn't the only guy out there, and missing out on Fielder would leave that money for other uses.

Do the Mariners need to respond to the Angels' big signings?
No. "Need" is hyperbolic in the same way that "cripple" is hyperbolic.

Do the Mariners need to make a huge splash to improve dwindling attendance?
No. It's no secret that the Mariners' attendance numbers have been dropping, which is bad. It's also no secret that the Mariners have been bad. A big splash would generate interest, but it would be only short-term interest. What the Mariners need to do to improve dwindling attendance is win. If they determine that a big splash would help them do that and sustain that, great. If they do not, great. If and when the team wins, the fans will be there. Winning always needs to be the goal.

Would Prince Fielder as a Mariner be awesome?
So awesome.

Is Prince Fielder the answer?
Not to this question!

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The Zduriencik Angle

My point of view on the benefit of GMZ is not that it is, or would be, a buddy-buddy thing, but rather Prince wants to win, would need assurances that he could win in a small market like Seattle, and his relationship with Z and past experience with him, along with Z’s credit for drafting and signing many of the key pieces that made the Brewers (smallest market there is) a winning team – combine to add up to a plus in the M’s column.

by benihana on Dec 19, 2011 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

I watched Moneyball last night which for some reason was the first time I realized "Oh yeah, I guess GM's don't necessarily have good relationships with their players."

I mean, they could have “good” relationships, but why “Buddy-buddy” relationships when they have to be so cold and business-like most of the time. This isn’t like working for Starbucks where the owner of the shop can be the friend to the barista. It’s unlikely you’ll get traded to another Starbucks. Though you could be fired, it’s not like they have to fire people all of the time. GM’s have to make tough player decisions all of the time, so it’s better for both parties if it’s just a long-distance relationship.

The only affect it should have is that maybe Jack is more prone to wanting (or not wanting) Prince because of watching his development and spending so much time thinking about him during his days with the Brewers, but the relationships seems unlikely to go both ways in that regard. Why should Prince care a whole lot about one of the guys that was in the front office during his time with Milwuakee? Not that’s it impossible or unlikely, it’s just not something that is necessarily true just because they “worked together” for awhile. The offer, city, team, still have to be right for Fielder and I now assume that his relationship with him means very little.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 19, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

We totally wish we were you.

Note that by “we” I mean “I”.

by SethGrandpa on Dec 19, 2011 5:59 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I don't.

I don’t know anywhere near enough about baseball to write about it!
And I’m on the wrong side of the pacific to get timely information without being up weird hours.

by Aussie Mariner on Dec 19, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

You get breakfast baseball

I would kill for breakfast baseball instead of after-dinner baseball.

by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 19, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

True.

But the day games on the west coast are over before I’m awake.
And I wake up and have the best part of a day of rumours, signing and everything to go over at the moment. If I had to cover it I’d be getting up at oh dark hundred.

by Aussie Mariner on Dec 19, 2011 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Weird time of year.

The FAs get to be like a commercial that was kind of cool at first; then jeez, that one again?; and finally, PLEASE come up with a different commercial! And then all the blog readers (I inclusive) with nothing better to do than argue the pro and con of something that no one has a clue of how possible it might be in the real (or surreal) GM world. And finally, to top it off, you might get what you vehemently argued for (say getting Prince) and have it turn into your worst nightmare (e.g. Chone).

Nonetheless, a nice, succint post of basic questions, Jeff. I’d say it was the best out there today, even if the only one on my short blog checklist.

by PackBob on Dec 19, 2011 6:46 PM PST reply actions  

A very brief summation of my view

1. The Mariners need to add something like 10 wins to the current roster to be real contenders.

2. Given the price of wins on the free agent market, paying the market rate for 10 wins through signing free agents is impractical. This team would need two Prince Fielders, and there aren’t two Prince Fielders available, even if the team did have the ability to increase their payroll by 50% in order to afford them.

3. Even if the team does have the revenues to significantly raise payroll (I don’t suppose to know the answer to this question, and realistically, no one else should either), that money can be better spent through other options than giving Prince Fielder $25 million per year. Raising payroll should not automatically justify spending on Fielder.

4. If Fielder’s market never does develop and the team can get him for something like 6/120, then it might make sense. But, I find it very unlikely that he’ll settle for a contract in that range, and I think it’s somewhat dangerous for the team to sit out the offseason watching quality players go elsewhere while hoping for that result.

5. I stopped reading Baker a while ago, so I’m not really arguing against him. I’m just against the idea that good teams build their rosters through paying the market price for premium free agents, as I think any look at the facts will reject that notion.

by davidcameron on Dec 19, 2011 8:44 PM PST reply actions   8 recs

Oh, and I guess I should add one more

6. I don’t buy into the “players like this aren’t available every winter so they need to make a move now” argument, as it just isn’t true. +5 win players change teams every off-season, and even if you’re absolutely stuck on getting a power hitting first baseman, those are available every year too. Among the 10 first baseman with the highest ‘09-’11 WAR, seven of them (Pujols, Cabrera, Gonzalez, Fielder, Teixeira, Napoli, Berkman) have changed teams in the last four years. It’s just not accurate to say that if the team doesn’t sign Fielder this winter, there won’t be anyone available in the future worth spending their money on.

by davidcameron on Dec 19, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions   5 recs

Oh Prince

How i want you to join our king : /

by Promethazine & Cream Soda on Dec 19, 2011 9:14 PM PST reply actions  

King and Prince - works for me!

He looks really good in a Mariner’s ballcap. God, this is driving me nuts.

Not encumbered by the thought process.

by Bart's Evil Twin on Dec 19, 2011 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess a somewhat FAQ that worries me is "Does Jack Z actually feel pressure to sign Fielder?"

I’m not talking pressure to keep up with the Angels and Rangers, or pressure because of dwindling fan base.

I feel that GMZ will be on the hot seat soon if the team doesn’t turn it around a bit. Theoretically, this should be happening soon. He knows how to build an organization and I don’t think he’s going to completely abandon that. However, a couple key failures (namely Figgins, Smoak and Guti) have set back the rebuilding process or, at the very least, made us a worse team during the process. Fielder would be a quick upgrade that would show management improvement. While it might not be the best for our long-term interests, it certainly isn’t crippling and I think Z could still build a contender with a declining Fielder on the payroll. I’m certain he knows all of this too and would do it to help keep his job.

But maybe I’m just paranoid and management has more faith in Z than I think.

by AndrewMcQ on Dec 20, 2011 2:06 AM PST reply actions  

But the thing is...

Prince Fielder would upgrade the team by quite a bit…..but he’s also expensive and requires a long term commitment.

If we are to get Fielder, ownership has to pay for it. If ownership wants Prince Fielder bad enough to overpay him they should have no problems doing what it takes to make it work. Jerry DiPoto didn’t sign Albert Pujols to impress Arte Moreno. It was Arte Moreno who rolled up his sleeves, so-to-speak, and did what it took to add Pujols to the team.

Jack Zduriencik was just given an extension just a few months ago. There is an apparent clear understanding by ownership that Z is trying to build an organization from the ground up. They know what needs to happen in the next two years and will obviously make the appropriate evaluations along the way.

by ThundaPC on Dec 20, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I think there is a small thing to be said for signing a guy who wll give you instant memories

I watch baseball for fun and because I like watching fun players play. If I watched baseball only to watch wins, I would have switched to being a Yankees fan or something long ago. Remembering Randy Johnson cause batters to piss themselves was worth way more than just the wins he gave us. Prince Fielder would be a fun player. He’s fat and he hits home runs. Its great.

That said, I guess I don’t want to sacrifice much future success but damn it, I’m human and I want to watch him on my team.

I guess the way I look at it; I’d rather watch a 81 win team that had Prince Fielder on it than a 82 win team without Prince Fielder. I don’t know how many wins I’d give up for the fun of watching him play but I know its a positive number. Maybe I’ve just forgot how much fun winning is.

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 20, 2011 3:27 AM PST reply actions  

Wait a second, Prince Fielder is fat?

That wasn’t in the FAQ!

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by Fearless Frog on Dec 20, 2011 9:31 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

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