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Now, full disclosure before I write this, I really wanted the Mariners to acquire Grady Sizemore around this time last year, on the hope that he would have a healthy year in Left Field and produce not necessarily like his old self but close to it.  Now it's hard to say what would have happened in Safeco, the .706 OPS he posted in Cleveland would have been massively better than what we got, but it's hard to say that it would have been a good idea in retrospect.  Now we have the opportunity again to acquire Grady Sizemore, and perhaps for cheap, and support for that idea is growing with Geoff Baker and Jeff (maybe not growing in Jeff's case, but he's at least open to the idea).  Despite the upside potential, I now find myself with more reservations than a year ago; there's the contact problems that Jeff brings up.  Those may go away as he gets farther from injury (if that's even possible), but the stolen bases that also dissapeared are almost certainly gone for good along with the best years of Sizemore's career.  Still if we could even get the 2009 version of Grady Sizemore for say, 5 million dollars, most of us would be happy.

Star-divide

The problem is, Grady Sizemore is just a stopgap.  Whether you believe we're competing next year or not (I do) Grady Sizemore is not likely to be around in 2013.  If he does poorly, he doesn't get resigned except to maybe a minor league contract or an even more heavily incentivized deal.  If he does well, he likely has pushed his price right back into the octuple digits and it's unlikely the Mariners want to give that kind of gauranteed money to somebody with that kind of injury history - but somebody would.  So it would be important to allow some space for an internal option such as Casper Wells, Trayvon Robinson, or Mike Carp to get significant time in left field.  This only becomes more obvious when you consider that Grady Sizemore's career OPS vs. Right/Left splits are .891/.693, and in the last 3 years those have slipped to .783/.602.  So while he's still capable against RHP, he's one of the last players you want to bat against a Lefty now.  Judging from some of the articles that have talked about it, Sizemore wants to play Center Field, but failing that, wants to be able to prove he's still star caliber, which means playing 80-90% of the time; not 60-70% as he would in a platoon role.  That could create problems signing him if he's not gauranteed the lion's share of starts in Left (it will likely already chafe that his former caddy is the starting Center Fielder - for now at least).  Maybe it could be worked out where he plays 60% of the games in left and another 20% or so in Center and goes back to his old self.  If that happens, then great, welcome Grady Sizemore, although it's hard to imagine that he gets back to his former level of mediocre against left handers at this point.

I offer, as an alternative, Nate McLouth.  He lacks the local boy legacy and the All Star upside (probably), but otherwise offers a lot of the same things as Sizemore.  His last 3 years OPS vs. Right/Left splits are .771/.590 or virtually identical to Sizemore's (Sizemore has maintained more ability to hit for power, McLouth has maintained high walk and contact rates), he has a similarly worrying injury history but has had less significant (ie:  not the the knees) injuries and is still capable of swiping a few bases.  Like Sizemore he could fill in at Center in an emergency and like Sizemore it probably wouldn't be pretty.  Add in that he would likely be cheaper to sign and more open to a platoon or 4th outfielder role and I think he's actually just the better option with the exception of the former star fan draw appeal that Grady Sizemore carries.

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Wily Mo Pena = 7.4 career UZR/150 in CF

Nate McLouth = -12.9 career UZR/150 in CF

I rest my case.

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by lailaihei on Nov 4, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The emergency I referenced

assumes that Casper Wells is the other half of the platoon, and the emergency would be that both he and Franklin Gutierrez are hurt colliding into eachother, and that Mike Carp must play Left Field while Nate McLouth would field Center.

by Malcontent1 on Nov 4, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he would cost much less.

And he had some upside, as he’s been a quality hitter in the past.

by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 4, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did have a surgury for Sports Hernia

In the middle of last year. He missed 32 games with Oblique and Hamstring Strains in 2009, 33 games with a concussion in 2010, and 24 games with an Oblique Strain in 2011 before having the aforementioned surgery. It’s not like he was muddling around while healthy even in comparison to Grady Sizemore. Furthermore, I think it’s more likely that having his first major surgery is more likely to have fixed Nate McLouth’s problems than having his 3rd major surgery is likely to fix Grady Sizemore’s. And McLouth’s 2008 was just a tiny bit less good than was Sizemore’s, while they had very similar 2009s. So I would say that he has been, figuratively, in Sizemore’s league since 2008. Sizemore’s only season that was far and away better than any of McLouth’s was 2006 which is a long way in the past. At this point, with 2 bad knees, I doubt Sizemore would be the better fielder or the better base stealer. All he really has over McLouth now is a bit more power, which he seems to be sacrificing his plate discipline to achieve.

by Malcontent1 on Nov 4, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Death!

How come you can do all this other great shit, but you can't lie the fuck down and sleep?

by JAH on Nov 8, 2011 10:04 PM PST reply actions  

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