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It's the day after Thanksgiving, which means I'm still away for Thanksgiving, and which means many of you are still away or hosting for Thanksgiving, which means I'm not really expected to post anything on the website. But I also start to feel guilty the longer I go without posting anything on the website, so now I am writing this post on the website. Consider this post a compromise between a real post and no post at all. This post is the Jake Woods of blog posts. I hope that you are accordingly excited.
Earlier this morning I was thinking a little bit about Carlos Peguero, for no other reason than holy crap can you believe that happened, this season? I mean, man, you talk about overmatched. The power was obvious - I do not think the power could have been more obvious by much - but the unreadiness was also obvious. I am being completely honest when I say I can't remember seeing a position player with worse discipline in the Major Leagues. Maybe there have been some that I forgot, but Peguero nevertheless occupied the extreme.
Curious, I went to FanGraphs and exported the plate discipline numbers for every batter that came to the plate at least 150 times this season. I narrowed the resulting spreadsheet down to Name, O-Swing%, Z-Swing%, and Contact%. I then created a pretty simple formula to figure out which batters had the most and least similar approaches to Peguero's, at least in terms of those statistics.
Out of a pool of 404 batters, the batter with the least similar approach to Carlos Peguero's was Nick Punto. Punto beat out Daric Barton, Bobby Abreu and Sam Fuld, and by a pretty healthy margin. I probably couldn't have faked a better answer. If you took Carlos Peguero, trapped him, put him in a Human Trait Reversanator, and collected the result, you'd get Nick Punto.
And, out of a pool of 404 batters, the batter with the most similar approach to Carlos Peguero's was Miguel Olivo.
| Stat | Player A | Player B |
| O-Swing% | 48.3% | 45.6% |
| Z-Swing% | 74.4% | 72.7% |
| Contact% | 64.4% | 66.3% |
Which player is which in the table? The answer is that it doesn't matter. The two even ended up with similar batting lines - one hit .196/.252/.371, while the other hit .224/.253/.388. Olivo in particular is so allergic to the concept of the pitcher putting him on that more pitches hit Carlos Quentin in 2011 than have hit Miguel Olivo since 2005.
This is the time of year that we're supposed to express those things for which we're thankful. I'm not going to write out a list of the things for which I'm thankful, because none of you guys give a shit. Instead, I'll say that Miguel Olivo should be most thankful that he's a catcher.
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I think we all made up out minds about Peguero
When we saw him take 3 balls in an intentional walk, and then strike out on the next three pitches.
by FaceRuiner on Nov 25, 2011 5:19 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I was thirteen rows behind home plate for that.
In the span of three pitches my friend and I went from laughing at the pitcher for throwing the ball away on an intentional walk and allowing Ackley to score to shaking our heads in shame.
That was an odd game.
by Cascadian Man on Nov 25, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Phineas and Ferb strikes again.
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"Satisfaction is the enemy of success." SanFranPreps
Yeah, an LLer did that during a game thread.
I can’t believe that hasn’t been removed yet.
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Holy crap, 8,230 results.
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Hey, how about that, I didn't post the link.
Results for that statement in quotations, indicating that it’s been copied and pasted on other websites all over the Internet.
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This is definitely just me but...
Every time I see Peguero batting I think of Big Bird from Sesame Street. No clue why. On the more relevant side, I feel like Mark Trumbo would be very close to Peguero-Level plate discipline. Sure, he managed to hit several more homers but man, some of the pitches he swung at were laughable. I also love players like Peguero though, because you either see an entertaining embarassment or a moonshot like the one he hit in Cleveland that was his first career homer. You just wait for that bomb…
by McBomination on Nov 25, 2011 8:24 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
I find players like Peguero to be nothing short of unbearable unless they are actually very productive players.
Watching Peguero was physically painful and I hope that he never sees the majors again without a considerable change in his approach.
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Peguero was the MLB equivalent of Robert Swift.
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Jeff, i'm sorry you were thinking about Peguero over thanksgiving weekend. :(
That must really suck.
Olivo!
When the pitcher releases the pitch, Olivo’s mind goes blank:
Oh, Shit – here it comes!
He no longer has any idea what’s coming, which explains the passed balls while catching and contact rate while batting.
reading this just makes me want to cry.
If only one of the prospects with a ton of power could emulate Ackley. That would be nice.
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by Thurston24 on Nov 25, 2011 11:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions
They both remind me of me.
…when I play MLB 2K11 when I’m tired. Man, I swing at ANYTHING.
by Aussie Mariner on Nov 26, 2011 12:53 AM PST reply actions
Welcome aboard McBomination.
New members are always great to see.
If you could do us all a favor by not using “this”, “+1” as a subject line on the site things will be much easier for everyone to read/sort through.
Thanks and, again, welcome to Lookout Landing.
by ToddK on Nov 26, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
At first, I was hoping this story was about the MN Twins
Then I realized it wasn’t. Then I read Nick Punto’s name, and then realized LNP is no longer a Twin. This was pretty much an emotional rollercoaster ride for me.
"Don't take life for granted, because tomorrow isn't promised to any one of us." -Kirby Puckett
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Nov 27, 2011 5:14 PM PST reply actions
Now Z goes out and gets a catcher with some plate discipline.
(Excuse my chatspeak) WTF.
by sofa_king on Nov 27, 2011 6:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions

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