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Seattle Mariners Get No Respect From Gold Glove Voters

That reads like a heated headline, but it isn't intended that way, because in truth I'm not sure how much respect they really deserve. Given that the headline reads a way it isn't intended to read, I could always go back and change it, but then I'd have to delete this paragraph, right here. This paragraph that I'm typing right now. And then I'd have to come up with a different intro and everything. I'm not going to do that because I've decided that this offseason I'm going to be really lazy.

The reason for the headline is that nominees for the 2011 Gold Glove Awards have been announced, and for the first time in hey wait a second what are you talking about "nominees"? Since when are there nominees for the Gold Glove Awards? And since when is there this?

ESPN2 will televise the first-ever Rawlings Gold Glove Awards Show – emanating from ESPN’s Baseball Tonight studio in Bristol – Tuesday, Nov. 1, at 10 p.m. ET.

A Gold Glove Awards show. Airing at 10pm Eastern, so you can tell how much ESPN2 is counting on this to hit big. For ESPN2, 10pm Eastern in the middle of the week is basically a throwaway slot. At 10pm Eastern on Wednesday, ESPN2 will be airing an MLS playoff game for God's sake, which :remembers audience: :re-considers: all right

Anyway, the reason for the headline is that there are no Mariners among the nominees. There are plenty of ex-Mariners - Adrian Beltre, Asdrubal Cabrera, Ronny Cedeno, Casey Kotchman - remember when Casey Kotchman was a Mariner? - - but no current Mariners. Which means that, for the first time since 1986, no Mariner will win a Gold Glove. That snaps the longest streak in Major League Baseball.

It also snaps Ichiro's personal streak of ten Gold Gloves in a row. Gold Gloves have historically favored incumbents over challengers, and even though that pattern seems to be going away, this still tells you something about the different way that Ichiro was perceived this season. He didn't look like himself at the plate and he didn't look like himself in the field, and the voters picked up on that. Or they didn't pick up on that at all, penalized him for underachieving offensively, and this is a coincidence. I wonder which I will choose to believe. I wonder which you will choose to believe.

In all honesty this isn't a huge surprise. It's a surprise that there are nominees, or at least that was a surprise to me, but it isn't a huge surprise that there aren't any Mariners among them. Miguel Olivo is shitty. Justin Smoak missed too much time and wasn't great. Nobody played 100 games at second base, third base, left field, or center field, and I don't know if any of the pitchers are good or bad. Given that Ichiro wasn't superb, the only guy who had a strong argument is Brendan Ryan, and there are a number of fantastic defensive shortstops, so Ryan wasn't a given.

I guess you could complain about Ryan's exclusion if you really want to, since we all need things to complain about and Ryan led AL shortstops in Defensive Runs Saved, but ultimately these are just stupid, flawed Gold Gloves anyway, and it isn't worth twisting yourself into a delicious, warm, oven-baked pretzel with scattered grains of coarse salt and a separate dipping cup of stone-ground mustard. Also, we're still waiting on the Fielding Bible Awards, and the Fielding Bible Awards are a lot smarter, so maybe...welp, nope, turns out the Fielding Bible Awards were announced today and there aren't any Mariners in there, either. Sooooooo, moving right along.

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When I was 10, I'd get worked up about Gold Gloves

Now I’m so cynical I think the best defensive players are almost certainly the ones who don’t win them.

by Gihyou on Oct 31, 2011 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Seattle fielding bible votes:

2B: Ackley 8 (suck on that all you defence detractors)
3B: Figgins 7 (Whaaaaaaaat?)
SS: Ryan 77 (Second to Tulo’s 94)
CF: Guti 68 (3rd)
RF: Ichiro 25 (10th, but includes two 10’s)
P: Fister 14 (11th)

by Aussie Mariner on Oct 31, 2011 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm glad to see Fister get some votes.

He looked stellar on balls hit at or around the mound area.

by abender20 on Oct 31, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are plenty of Angels nominees, so the AL West is well represented.

Napoli's 27th, 28th, 29th and 30th homers of the year (four more than Jeff Mathis' career total) rained down on Angel Stadium like knives from the ceiling.

by 44FAN on Oct 31, 2011 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

These are rather weird.

Ichiro is near the bottom of qualified outfielders for range in 2011 (-6.3) after being near the top in 2010 (+17.0; Fangraphs). It’s hard to make any judgment on these things when you can’t see the process or the data. Are players heavily penailzed for plays they should have made but didn’t, such as Ichiro’s infamous missed line drive? A play that appears easy on replay may not have been easy at all in the field.

Would a lot of outfielders made the play that Cruz missed in the WS? Or would the ball have similarly fooled most of the otfielders?

Too many variables that can’t be accurately measured to make more than generalized assessments.

by PackBob on Oct 31, 2011 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Curse!

I really, sincerely, liked that streak.

by katal on Oct 31, 2011 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I was born in 1987

This is the first year the M’s won’t win a gold glove in my life time. I’ve taken it for granted seeing a gold glove handed out on opening day, i might not know what to do with myself.

by Robert Praetor on Oct 31, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And so ends my last reason for caring about the Gold Gloves.

They are now at the level of a player getting 100 RBIs. I see a player I like get it and think, “Good for him,” and then promptly stop thinking about it.

by quacker27 on Nov 2, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm more annoyed with the Fielding Bible

for failing to notice Brendan Ryan was measurably better than Tulo in runs saved (16 to 14). Eh, whatever: gold star, Brendan! And all that stuff about how you really can’t judge a fielder’s ability on a single year of data. A second thing that happened: Bill James’ web site had a couple of posts on “predicting the fielding bible winners” here. So, this could be a situation where Dewan spites Ryan to teach James who’s the boss. (Answer, Danza.)

by goyo70 on Nov 1, 2011 5:20 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't think that's a big deal.

Ryan coming in 2nd is alright in my mind. 2nd best defensive SS in all of MLB is nothing to sneeze at.

by Patrick Stites on Nov 1, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

And best in the AL.

So he’s got that going for him.

by quacker27 on Nov 2, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

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