Congratulations, St. Louis Cardinals
I've known Adam Morris for...God, I don't know, something like the last nine or ten or eleven years. For those of you who don't know, Adam Morris is the guy who founded and continues to run Lone Star Ball, our network's Rangers blog. But I knew him before Lone Star Ball ever existed. I knew him before the concept of SB Nation occupied a single neuron in Tyler Bleszinski's brain. I knew him when I thought the Mariners would be okay without Alex Rodriguez because they signed Bret Boone and Boone had 74 RBI the year before.*
*bad process, good result!
I knew him as meno71 on the ESPN baseball message boards, where I spent entirely too much of my time during high school. It was that experience that started me on the path to where I am today, which is cool and makes it seem like less of a waste, but I probably could've been off getting laid. I wasn't off getting laid. I was online, talking about baseball, often on the Mariners board, but frequently on the Rangers board, because the Rangers board was smarter.
A lot of the time, meno71 would be on the Rangers board, and he stood out to me the way people on a message board stand out when you can tell they actually know what they're talking about. He was the rare internet user with whom it's a pleasure to interact.
We continued to interact for some years, and right around when I started up Leone For Third, Adam began his imaginatively named Texas Rangers Blog. The way I remember it might not be the way it actually happened, because it's been a long time and it's also dreadfully late at night, but I believe that, after I joined SBN, I recommended Adam for the Rangers site. Adam was a great Rangers blogger - the best I knew, and probably the best there was.
Adam and I have been colleagues of a sort ever since. We don't talk all the time. We've never met. I've only actually heard his voice once, and I liked the way it sounded more in my imagination. But I consider him to be an internet friend. You know what I mean. Many of us have real friends and internet friends, and while internet friends can become real friends, there's still a connection there regardless.
Why do I bring this up? That's a good question for me to ask myself right here because hopefully it'll help me stay on track. This was a World Series between the Texas Rangers and the St. Louis Cardinals. Immediately, when the matchup was set, I knew I'd be rooting for the Cardinals, and rooting hard. I'm a Mariners fan, and as a Mariners fan, the last thing I want is to see a division rival celebrating a world championship. Particularly a division rival that had never won before. The Mariners have never won before, and it's nice to have company.
There was no doubt in my mind which way I was leaning. Then I tried to break it down. Why? Why root so hard for the Cardinals, and so hard against the Rangers?
Something I realized is that, from a Mariners fan's perspective, it doesn't really matter whether the Rangers win the World Series or not. The Rangers made their second World Series in a row. They built an outstanding team, and they are, overall, an outstanding organization. They're set for the present and they're set for the future, and a championship wouldn't change their situation one bit. It would, I guess, give them a little extra money to spend, but not much compared to the money they already have, and it's not like a championship would make them a more appealing team to free agents or young players they might be looking to sign to extensions. Basically, a championship wouldn't determine whether or not the Rangers are great. The Rangers are already great.
So there wasn't a rational reason to root against them. Then I thought of Adam. None of my personal friends are Rangers fans, nor are any members of my family. None of my personal friends are Cardinals fans, nor are any members of my family. I know two Cardinals fans - one who posts here, and one who just moved in nextdoor a couple weeks ago. They both watched the World Series in 2006. But I know a handful of Rangers fans, and Adam the best among them. I like them, and they have never seen the Rangers win the Series. It would seem sensible to root for the Rangers, right? So that these people could be happy? Why would I want these people to be sad?
It's not like I ever had any actual investment in the Cardinals. I don't care about the Cardinals. My rooting interest was never so much for the Cardinals as against the Rangers, and when I thought about the Rangers fans I know, that made me feel kind of shitty. I was essentially rooting for those people to be sad, for no other reason than I would have the satisfaction of knowing the Rangers lost, and that those people would be sad.
Horrible. Rationally, because of Adam and a few other guys, I should've been rooting for the Rangers. Rationally, because of Adrian Beltre, I should've been rooting for the Rangers. But it was my mistake to try to break this down rationally, because there's nothing at all rational about sports fandom. I've mentioned it before, but if we were truly rational about sports, we wouldn't watch sports.
As far as I can tell, this was the internal thought process:
- Go Cardinals
- Why?
- Because the Rangers are the enemy
- Why?
- Because they play in the Mariners' division
- So what?
- So that makes them the enemy
- But the Mariners aren't playing anymore
- But rivals
- What's a rival?
- A team you don't want to win
Fandom just is, and you can't control it, and my fandom was with the Cardinals. As such, I found this to be just about the perfect World Series, right down to all of the agony. The irrational sports fan in me, the fan who loves the Mariners and hates their rivals for some reason, is absolutely delighted by the fact that the Rangers twice came within a strike of winning it all. If the point is that the Rangers and their fans have to suffer, I'm not sure they could've suffered much more than they did these last few days.
Feelings are so stupid. I'm glad I can have strong feelings about sports, because at the end of the day they're just sports, and strong feelings make sports what they are, but I can't rationally process why I would root for good people to be miserable. Some bad people are miserable, too, and that's fine (fuck 'em!), but there are bad people everywhere. How can I hope for misery and not feel like a 6'5 pile of shit?
Man, I'm starting to lose track of what I'm writing. I might have to wake up and take this whole post down, even though I don't plan on waking up until Tuesday because baseball season is finally over. I love baseball season, and the past month has been nothing short of breathtaking - can you believe the last day of the regular season and World Series Game 6 happened just 30 days apart? - but I'm going to savor this. After the final out, there were a lot of people tweeting something along the lines of "come back, baseball." It's like, hey, don't hurry. Speaking at least for myself, I need this breather.
I feel like I've barely said anything about the Cardinals. One of the tricky things about this year's Cardinals is that I don't know what lesson we can take from them. Last year, when the Giants won it all, we could realize that the Giants won it all with Brian Sabean as their GM, and that was enough to make even the most negative baseball fan a little more hopeful. But this year, what's the lesson? "Never give up"? It's a fine lesson, I guess, but it's overly simple and hardly original. We don't need the Cardinals to teach us shit we learned in first grade.
I remember back in the spring, before the season started, I was doing division-by-division previews with the host on my weekly radio spot, and one week we got to the NL Central. At that point I still liked the Cardinals, but I liked the Brewers a lot more, because the Cardinals had recently learned that Adam Wainwright needed Tommy John surgery, and I could hardly wrap my head around that kind of loss. It was severe - a probable blow of something like four or five or six wins. Four or five or six wins that I didn't think the Cardinals could afford to lose.
And they survived. They survived without Wainwright. They survived a ton of other injuries. Actually, "survive" isn't the right word. Obviously, "survive" isn't the right word, because the Cardinals did so much more than that. They survived for their first 130 games. They thrived for their final 50. They finished 34-16, actually slowing down once they reached the playoffs.
It's going to take me a long time to fully appreciate what the Cardinals pulled off. It's possible I'll never fully appreciate it. It's also possible I already fully appreciate it, and this is what full appreciation feels like. The Cardinals were 10½ games behind the Braves with 32 games to play. They made the playoffs on the last day of the year. In the NLDS, they did away with a bulldozer, and then in the NLCS, they knocked off the team that took their division.
Which took them to the World Series, where - and you know I hate this - they captured their whole season in a nutshell. They battled, they scuffled, they found themselves faced with impossible odds, and they stormed back. They stormed back to win. They stormed back to win everything.
Saturday is a day off. It is a day that I don't even have to think about thinking about baseball. It is the first such day I will have had in about eight months. I'm going grocery shopping. I'm excited. And the whole time I'm at the store, I just know I'm going to be thinking about the Cardinals. There's a slight but significant difference between impossible and improbable, and the Cardinals just lived it.
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Enjoy the break.
It’s definitely well earned, and well deserved.
Thank you again so much for everything you’ve done this year. It’s been my first year here and by far the most enjoyable season of following baseball that I’ve yet experienced.
And I’m looking forward to many more.
by Aussie Mariner on Oct 29, 2011 4:14 AM PDT reply actions 8 recs
thanks for a fine season of posting, jeff.
You have earned a day off I suppose, I have more to say but shit, its 1:45 in Hawaii right now and I have some waves to destroy in the morning. Enjoy your flocking neighbors this offseason and I wait with baited breath for your next post……Yu Darvish?
by Nichos on Oct 29, 2011 4:48 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Thank you!
I don’t really post here, but I just wanted to thank you and Matthew for everything you’ve done. This was my first full season reading LL and this site has helped make the baseball season much more enjoyable for me than it would have been otherwise. I’d say more, but it’s a quarter to five now and I have no idea why I’m still awake.
Posting at 4 AM can't be healthy
But who cares! Enjoy the day off – although I agree, even days off it’s hard not to think about baseball. The Cards showed why we all watch this sport – because at least once in your life, your team will do something so amazing you can’t help but believe in miracles.
I wanted the Rangers to win.
Four reasons:
1) I believe it is important that every fan should be able to see their team win at least once in their history.
2) The Cardinals won it in 2006 and seriously, they don’t need to win again for awhile, see above.
3) From my view point, the Rangers look like the better overall team. Cardinals have a few players that are better than the Rangers best players, but as a team the Rangers look like an overall better team.
Finally,
4) Beltre was so unappreciated here. I would have enjoyed seeing him win it all. The exact opposite feeling of what I felt when I saw Yuni playing in the NLCS.
Thank you Jeff (and everyone at LL) for all your work! I don’t say much here but I very grateful for all the work that goes into making this site exist and whatnot.
So if the Mariners win it next year, you wouldn't want them to win it again for at least another six years?
"The Cardinals won it in 2006 and seriously, they don’t need to win again for awhile, see above."
Apparently nobody should win this frequently. Unless that’s a special rule just for the Cardinals.
I think the fact that you're replying to a Mariners fan insinuates that the Mariners are precluded from said quotation.
Also, he seems to be indicating that the Cards winning in two of the last six world series is more then enough for any given franchise. Not an outrageous arguement, methinks.
Alas, we’re bogging down in minutiae here so I’ll just stop.
Sometimes when I'm down on myself I feel like a 6'5 pile of shit too.
by Poochie on Oct 29, 2011 7:14 AM PDT reply actions 11 recs
I don't post here a whole lot...
… but I do read your site somewhat regularly. It’s been great having you write about the Cardinals. To me, that’s one of the real upsides of making the playoffs/World Series. Having all these great writers – who I follow throughout the year – direct their gaze towards MY team. It’s been a real treat.
Thanks again. And please take good care of Brendan Ryan in Seattle.
by AndyB83 on Oct 29, 2011 9:49 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Congratulations, St. Jeff
You’ve greatly enhanced the last month of baseball. Which wasn’t a simple task. Many, many thanks.
by fiftyone on Oct 29, 2011 9:54 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Think not of the fans; think of Michael Young
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 29, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I imagine this was sort of how it would have felt for the '95 team to win it all.
’Cept it would have had the added drama of the stadium tax and whatnot.
My fandom is so fickle
I find that when I watch two teams play where I don’t have a personal interest, sometimes I’m surprised who I root for. I could give examples — like when I tried to root for the Blazers for Northwest pride against the Bulls in the NBA Finals, but when the games started, couldn’t help but root for the Bulls. I fully intended to root against the Rangers, but when Game 1 came along, found myself rooting for them. Could be because I like several of their players: Beltre in particular, and a couple who were good for me in fantasy. It was probably just because I’ve always been an American League guy because of the Pilots and Mariners. But essentially I can’t pinpoint a reason; I just found myself wanting them to win. But I won’t lose sleep over the Cardinals winning. Too bad I had to work during most of the games; I missed a bunch of great baseball. I know how I’ll root next year in that Rangers-Mariners ALCS series.
This was my first season on Lookout Landing and I joined it late. But I join in the thanks to Jeff and Matthew for making it a great and much more informed season. Best writing I’ve seen about baseball and the Mariners and I’ve enjoyed it immensely, even when ignoring homework to read — like I’m doing right now!
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring". ~Rogers Hornsby
Adam Wainwright
Must feel like how Drew Bledsoe felt after the Patriots won Superbowl XXXVI with him injured and watching from the sidelines. A conflicted, “we won, but without me” kind of happiness.
On the one hand
I wanted the Rangers to win since, like Mark Sobba, I absolutely hate never having experienced a WS and I think every fan should get that opportunity. Plus, Texans need to see that there’s another sport besides football and executing people.
On the other hand, I am living in St. Louis, and St. Louis fans are awesome.
On the third hand, who gives a shit?
Anyhoo, thank you, Jeff, for another great season of posting. Your humor made a mediocre season into a fun season, and your constant quoting of sabermetrics made me learn some new stuff about baseball. Enjoy your well-earned break!
I love how Jeff states he'll take a day off
And a dozen commenters/plantation owners tell him to “enjoy the break.”
by fiftyone on Oct 29, 2011 11:35 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs
Does Adam Wainwright get a ring?
He didn’t even play at all this season. He will probably get one, but I don’t see how he should get one.
I'm sure he will
They said that Arthur was guaranteed a ring either way, just like Bengie Molina last year. Only Bengie probably won’t wear his.
Hey, Corey Patterson gets a ring too,
and he didnt do anything for the team…and he was ON the roster!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Nov 3, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Based on the Rangers fans I've known
I don’t at all feel like a 5’4" pile of shit in hoping for (and delighting in) them suffering. Their tears taste like candy.
by Aly Edge on Oct 30, 2011 7:13 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Bwahahaha Rangers
Now you get to be the Red Sox for the next 20 years.
Love,
Everyone.
Poor Dallas
They haven’t won a world’s championship since June.
As a Ranger fan...
I didn’t hate the cards before the WS and still don’t. They won, we didn’t, end of story. I’d like to think I’d root for any AL West team if we were out of it, but I’d have a hard time with the Angels simply because the jerk that runs Halos Heaven would be pleased. Other than that. I used to live in LA and know a lot of great Angels fans.
The only teams I really hate are the Yankees and Sox because of their unfair payroll advantage, and a lot of their fans are jerks.
I will NEVER again sit in the Dodgers’ outfield seats again, but I can’t let a bunch of bleacher thugs paint a whole fan base.
And btw, thank you Jeff for your summary about what to expect from Beltre. You were dead on in your assessment.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
I was also rooting for the Cardinals "just because".
Part of it was that I’d been a Cardinals fan as a kid. They were my NL team, doing things in a run and gun fashion with Vince Coleman, and Ozzie Smith’s cartwheels. That said, I haven’t really forgiven them for 2006 (see my sig for an explanation), and though the Rangers beat the Tigers, I thought I’d be rooting for the AL team in the World Series. But then I started watching Game 1, and found myself glad when St. Louis did something good, and not caring about the Rangers successes. So I started rooting for them (helped that a Cardinals fan friends joined us at the bar that night).
I don’t take any particular pleasure in the Rangers losing; other than Nelson Cruz and his plethora of bombs against the Tigers, there isn’t anything I rally hate about their team. But as Jeff put so eloquently, sports rooting interests often aren’t rational, and can cross over into the wholly absurd. So, yeah, I took pleasure in the Cardinals winning, when more than a few pundits were predicting an easy Texas victory. And I take solace in the fact that at least this Texas loss (probably!) won’t spawn a awful Taco Bell campaign.
Eat 'em up, Tigers!
When I was a Cubs fan living in Illinois, I'd have rooted against the Cardinals.
As a Mariners fan living in WA, I have to root against the Rangers. But as a Cubs fan, I would be more strongly rooting against the Cardinals given their many Series wins and the Cubs long drought, as opposed to rooting against the Rangers and their 0 Series wins.
I’d bet there were some Cubs fans almost as unhappy as Rangers fans. Life can be so cruel: 1969/2003 Cubs and 2011 Cardinals.

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