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Franklin Gutierrez Probably Very Good at Defense

If anything, 2011 was the year that I decided to fetishize digging into defensive metrics. It resulted in me falling out of love* with UZR based on how poorly they were rating the Mariners as a team while the team's run prevention was stellar and the results-based fielding outcomes (e.g. team BABIP against) were among the league's best. I dug around, I mused, I tested and I eventually detailed my thoughts here and here about building a team-wide metric that I felt comfortable with.

*It was never actually love. I'm sorry, UZR. I was just using you. I felt nothing the whole time.

I still do not feel great about individual player measurement, but ultimately that's okay because I don't actually work for a baseball front office. Why should I do their work for them? Anyways, here is the 2011 graph of the team's fielding performance:

Franklin Gutierrez appeared for the first time this season on 18 May. Again, I am not satisfied with making player-specific comments from a team-focused metric, but dude might be good. Unfortunately, the team's defense absolutely cratered when Dustin Ackley was promoted to take over the second base job in mid-June. Oh, wait, no, the team continued making substantial defensive progress. In addition to the numbers, Ackley's visually graded out adequate to good in the field in direct contrast to what many people declared. There are lessons therein.

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I want to make sure I understand Fielding Runs right.

Is it an average from the beginning of the season? So, when Guitierrez returns, the team FR does not immediately jump to the new, higher level; after a personnel change, FR asymtopically approaches the “true” fielding ability of the team.

Which, if I understand it right, also means this graph somewhat understates how good defensively the M’s were at their peak.

What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?

by rickpo on Oct 24, 2011 11:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh, that makes sense

So while the graph is trending up, the team is better than league average, and while it’s trending down, worse than league average.

What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?

by rickpo on Oct 24, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goddam was he terrible at the plate.

And still worth 1.1 WAR. If he could even be average at the plate he deserves his spot in CF. Maybe he can get that boost in BABIP again because I don’t think I could survive a non-Guti season.

I am convinced that Seattle sports teams exist to make me hate Seattle sports teams.

by the other side on Oct 24, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Guti in CF, Ryan in SS

that’s how you build a defense.

by valencia on Oct 24, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Ackley at 2B, Wells in LF

That’s even better. Especially with LF in Safeco being a more premium defensive position than in other fields.

by CMC_Stags on Oct 24, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still better than Yuni at every position.

I am convinced that Seattle sports teams exist to make me hate Seattle sports teams.

by the other side on Oct 24, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I started actually thinking about Yuni at every position. Jesus is that a scary place.

Also, I can imagine Benji Molina trying to steal third and being beat by the catcher in a foot race to the bag. Although I guess the catcher doesn’t exist.

I am convinced that Seattle sports teams exist to make me hate Seattle sports teams.

by the other side on Oct 24, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

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