A Thought
Yesterday, I noticed that Michael Pineda turns 22 in two weeks. A little while later, I noticed that Felix Hernandez only turns 25 in April. Being 25 myself, I found this to be more than a little depressing, as I came away feeling like crap without even getting to eat a Cuban sandwich.
This isn't the thought, because this isn't a new thought. People have been joking about how young athletes make them feel like crap for ages. "Alex Ovechkin's only 25? Guess that means I won't have a hockey career! Ha ha!" say the white people who make these jokes.
Sometimes, the joke will go along the lines of how a star young athlete makes one feel unaccomplished. Other times, the joke will go along the lines of how a star young athlete makes one realize he doesn't have a future in the given sport. But very often, no matter the joke, this will lead to consideration - out loud or otherwise - of how one might still be able to make it, despite his relatively advanced age and lack of training.
In baseball, it's thought that there's really only one way. You can't realistically teach yourself to hit like a professional. Batting takes a lifetime of practice and development, and a certain amount of congenital ability. You can't very well teach yourself to field like a professional, because that also requires unthinkable hours of practice along with natural instincts, and besides, even if you do learn to field pretty well, you still need to hit. You can't realistically teach yourself to become a power starter or reliever, because arms need to be developed over time, and I don't think a 25 or 30 or 40 year old can declare "I'm going to learn to throw 90 miles per hour, with accuracy" and pull it off.
There is, I think, one consensus path for the overaged individual to take to the Major Leagues: develop and hone a knuckleball. This is considered the easiest route, and as the Tim Wakefield example shows us, a knuckleball doesn't have to be thrown fast or with maximum effort in order to be effective. It's simple. In the mind of the average American, the easiest way to make it to the bigs is by learning to throw a good knuckler.
And yet, what do we see? Not many knuckleballers. Here are the four pitchers to throw knuckleballs in the Major Leagues last season:
Tim Wakefield
R.A. Dickey
Charlie Haeger
Eddie Bonine
The first three used the knuckler as their primary weapon, while for Bonine it was a secondary pitch. And it's not like there are a ton of knuckleballers hanging around in the minors, either. There are a few of them, and a few more who tinker with the pitch from time to time, but if anything, the knuckleballer is a dying breed. They are in very short supply.
In conclusion, one or more of the following must hold true:
(1) The knuckleball is very difficult to learn and impossibly difficult to master
(2) Very few people, once beyond their teenage years, feel the desire to pursue a life as a professional baseball player
(3) Those who do feel the desire to pursue a life as a professional baseball player simply lack the motivation and drive to put in the hours necessary to get a lot better
I suspect that the biggie is #1. Obviously, the knuckleball isn't an easy pitch to learn to throw, much less learn to locate. Which makes one wonder whether learning the knuckler really is the easiest path to the Major Leagues in the first place. But #2 and #3 are probably factors as well, and given that it's clearly possible for one to learn to throw a passable knuckler, this gives me hope that one day, when robots learn to do most of our menial tasks and the job market craters, there will be enough people out there with hope in their hearts and nothing else to do that knucklers may eventually out-number non-knucklers in the professional ranks.
Doug Mirabelli's gonna want to get hisself cryogenically frozen. A fortune lies ahead.
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The decline in pitchers throwing knuckleballs can mean only one thing:
Knuckleballers are the baseball Highlanders. There can be only one. And when there is only one left he will possess a power so great that he will pitch nothing but perfect games every time he takes the mound.
by ThomasG on Jan 7, 2011 1:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Another possibility...
4) ML pitching coaches and trainers just aren’t good at helping pitchers develop the pitch.
If I were I ML club, I would hire Charlie Hough or some other knuckleball guru to work with all the broken down, old, and burned out pitchers in the farm system. Why not? If someone blows out their arm, and can’t throw hard anymore, give them a year or two to pick up the new pitch.
If you get one starter every 4-5 years out of it, it would pay off bigtime.
From what I gather very few pitchers are receptive to picking up the knuckleball and most coaches don't want players wasting their time fooling around with one.
I recall Charlie Zink saying something to that effect when he was coming up through the Sox farm system.
5) Catchers refuse to catch it
and after some time, throwing against a fence gets old.
by Paul AB on Jan 7, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah this is a good point.
Simply saying.
Oh hell yes.
by dba on Jan 7, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Another problem with the knuckle is that players try to throw it too hard
That was one of my issues while playing in high school is that I would try to throw it with the same arm strength as my fastball. It would move, but it would be more of a splitter than a knuckleball. That and coaches hate it too. We always have one pitcher we give the green light to throw it to each year and it’s always more of a novelty than strategy at that point.
I remember the story earlier this year about Pettitte throwing a knuckleball in the minor leagues and then his coaches telling him to stop.
I’m not sure if it was because he was no good at it, or because he was too good to be throwing a knuckleball.
Seems weird that he couldn’t just keep the knuckleball in his back pocket for like 3 or 4 pitches per game, but then that must be because if you don’t throw the knuckleball consistently, you suck at it.
If it makes you feel any better...
When I just read that you’re the same age as me, I thought “damn, we’re both 25 and he gets to write about baseball all the time while I deliver pizza.”
by ScottBrowne on Jan 7, 2011 1:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I feel the same way- I'm 22 now and when Sullivan was 22 he was writing about baseball
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Echoed...
I have the same feeling when I think about Flannery O’Connor starting “The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter” when she was 17 and publishing it when she was 23. So much talent and productivity at a young age amazes and depresses me.
Jeff, you are a talented dude, and you are doing what you love to do (it seems). Many people would envy this, regardless of age. Keep the great articles coming!
by stumptown sooner on Jan 9, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
All or nothing pitch
I think coaches shy away from it because if it fails it fails spectacularly. You either get a strike, the guy hits it a mile, or your catcher torques a hip trying to chase it to the backstop. Or A and C both happen.
I met a kid in his early 20s...
who had very little athletic ability, but spent hours per day working on a knuckleball, just in case. It was hysterical. “Cant hang out, I’m gonna practice my knuckleball for a bit and then play GTA.”
I’m not joking.
We lost touch.
When Felix joined the team and I found out how young he was, I definitely remember having a Comic Book Guy from The Simpson's moment and saying, "I have wasted my life."
Pretty okay with things now, though.
Great post.
Milton Bradley apologist
One of the big regrets of my life (in the Roads Not Taken category)
is that I never got to try out my knuckleball in a real game. I was throwing hard with good control when I abandoned baseball. Coaches always objected to any sort of change-up — though I sometimes experimented and threw palmballs and forkballs and so on.
But as soon as I knew about the knuckleball, I practiced it. No spin, and it would just drop… sometimes hitting the plate. It was fun. When the Portland Beavers held open try-outs it sometimes crossed my mind to show up but I never did.
I’m not sorry I didn’t end up a jock.
ignacio
Don't most coaches and teams look down upon knuckleballs though?
Dustin Ackley is going to make Joe Morgan look like Joey Cora.
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."
And apparently a billion people beat me to this thought.
Dustin Ackley is going to make Joe Morgan look like Joey Cora.
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."
Well that doesn't change the point that eventually the knuckleballers will overwhelm the infidels
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 7, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And these infidels, what are they not having fidelity for?
Dustin Ackley is going to make Joe Morgan look like Joey Cora.
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."
That's what I like about these ball players
I get older, they stay the same age.
by Astrobiology on Jan 7, 2011 3:14 PM PST reply actions 13 recs
Anytime I begin to feel old I just remind myself of Justin Bieber
by the time that little fucker’s 23, he’ll be guest starring on C-list reality shows.
by craig3410 on Jan 7, 2011 3:39 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Was it a Cuban sandwich from Paeo's?
Because you could never feel like crap after eating a Cuban sandwich from Paseo’s.
by nathaniel dawson on Jan 7, 2011 5:09 PM PST reply actions
Knuckleball bonanza
To follow up on the Highlander dilemma: was there ever a heyday- all Niekros aside- for knuckleballers? Candiotti, Wakefield. It’s amazing we never see them with their samurai swords.
The first time I ever heard about Felix, I definitely felt weird
A 19 year old in the Major Leagues when I myself was 19? Whaa?
Just wait until you're at the point where prospects, AAA players, and extremely promising rookies were born in the year you graduated high school
sigh
by pdb on Jan 8, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
I hear ya...
And even at my advanced age, I still can’t throw a knuckleball. I think my velocity is higher than it was when I was 22 though.
"Come on. Let's go drink till we can't feel feelings any more."
by Thingray on Jan 8, 2011 10:31 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
This is similar to my hope for Wiffleball to really take off.
by hcoguy on Jan 7, 2011 8:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions
You don't have to wait for Wiffleball to take off. There is always Curling.
My daughter and I were “lucky” enough to score tickets to the 2010 Olympic curling events. As she put it to me, if she never makes it in college softball, she can always wait unit she’s in her thirties and take up curling.
by TrustBaseball on Jan 7, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
I asked R.A. about this. I never posted his response before, but here it is:
“I think it would be a fantastic idea. I think the problem is it’s hard to pick up a knuckleball when you’re 27-years-old on the downhill-side of your career, if you’ve never ever ever tried to throw one. I grew up throwing one. I threw one in games even when I pitched conventionally, when Orel was my pitching coach. If you’ve never done it, and you try to pick it up, it’s going to be really really hard. That’s why I think you don’t see more organizations trying to do that. Most of the time you’ll see a position player, who plays knuckleball-catch and has his whole life, become a knuckleball pitcher, before you see a conventional pitcher become a knuckleballer. I think Charlie Hough was one, myself. Tim was a position played, I know. I don’t know about the other guys.”
by Sam Page on Jan 8, 2011 11:23 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm 21 and I started to feel old while watching hockey
Stupid prospects that get to NHL straight from Junior Hockey. I suppose I’ll start to feel old about baseball around 25, but dudes like Strasburg and Heyward are not making it easier.
You are 25?
I will now light myself on fire
by Freneau on Jan 8, 2011 12:27 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Wait another ten years and then you'll feel another, more special kind of suck.
When guys roughly the same age as you, who you watched play the game solely as an adult, get old. I am a year older than Alex Rodriguez and remember very well him rocking the world as a 20 year old back in 1996. Guhhhh…
Wait until you start slipping past middle age...
…and start tracking the oldest players in the league because when they are gone the door closes on you.
Lonnie

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