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CYOOTDOD, Pt Deux

Here it is again, another CYOOT. I rather liked last week's formula, so let's give that another go.

Same rules apply. Start looking down, where shortly after posting, I'll have created a few comments marked "Topic:". These will serve as the discussion leads for the day. Don't like any of mine? Make your own!

Although I'd like to see other people follow my convention, deep down I know that only I and maybe two other people will actually follow it, because nobody reads up here once they realize there are no questions, and all this is really just to fill space and give a fresh thread for people to post on.

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Topic: After being through one of these, what changes would you make to the next CYOOT?

Alternatively, does it even matter? Does the format changing really affect you at all, or is it just another hole for you to stick your comments in?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 5:35 AM PDT reply actions  

It doesn't change much.

Since most of us are probably navigating via c, x, or z, or some combination therein, it’s not like it forces us to scroll.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Topic: What did you want to be "when you grew up" as a kid?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 5:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I wanted to be a pilot.

Which I did in the Army for 9 years, so yay me I guess. It’s all downhill from here.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better than a lot of people. I always wanted to work with computers, and now that I am I want to go back to driving a forklift.

At least you got to live the dream for a little while. My dream turned out to be slightly less sparkly than how I imagined it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's true.

I would have loved to keep flying for the rest of my life. The pilot part was pretty cool, the Army part…not so much. Sometimes dream jobs come with hitches.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 6:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you leave an Army pilot job, can't you basically walk right into a private-sector flying job?

I had a friend that flew for the Navy that had offers from Delta and Airbus before he even got his final papers.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could have if I had enough hours.

There are plenty of private sector helicopter jobs out there to be had, but you usually need a few thousand hours to be competitive for them. I was well short of that.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, that might be it. He was flying almost daily (from his account) for almost six years.

That and I’d imagine there are a lot more planes out there than helis.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are more openings for planes than helicopters.

It’s all about the hours though and with so few private sector helicopter jobs out there the hour requirements just for them to even look at your resume are pretty steep.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Were you a commissioned officer or a warrant officer?

Being a warrant officer in the army seemed like a pretty nifty position to be in, all of the benefits of the enlisted and commissioned ranks without any of the b.s.

Outside perspective on that opinion. Just seemed like a laid back position that allowed them to focus on the technical aspects of their work.

by Kermit. on Sep 30, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was commissioned.

Which led to fewer hours flown. If I had to do it all over again, you described being a Warrant Officer perfectly, and that’s the route I’d take.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not exactly doing what I wanted when I was a child (pilot also!)

But at least we have a forklift here in my shop and sometimes when I’m bored I drive it around and pick things up, which is pretty goddamned great

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never had a dream job. I'm not sure I actually thought I'd have a job when I grew up.

once I got to college it finally occurred to me that I’d need to do more than clean or page the public library to make a living.

by msb on Sep 30, 2010 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hrm....

I wanted to be an astronaut at one point, which I suppose is a phase a lot of kids go through. Then I saw Aliens and…

for a while, I wanted to be a vet, but at some point around the age of twelve I realized that my hands weren’t exactly steady and I take failure pretty hard.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never really wanted to be anything when I was a kid.

In the third grade, when we were had to draw what we wanted to be when we grew up, I went with ice-cream man, probably for no other reason than he gets to drive around and has all that ice cream.

I was not very imaginative.

by Eyebrows on Sep 30, 2010 10:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

A cowboy or a smoke jumper.

The first no longer exists in the form I desired, the latter would have been doable for a few years and I regret not trying it out.

by Kermit. on Sep 30, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because you're not John Wayne enough already.

Now I know where all that masculinity I wasn’t using went.

by Eyebrows on Sep 30, 2010 10:13 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Does it ever seem odd how people slot into different types of work?

Another job I always thought would be cool is college professor. Head guy of a program, corner office in an ivy covered stone building. How people get there is about as foreign to me as becoming an astronaut

by Kermit. on Sep 30, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball player or musician.

Turns out I wasn’t talented enough to do either, but I realized that before I was 12.

by Jed MC on Sep 30, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really wanted to fly

Still do, actually, and I think that within a couple of years I’ll be enrolled in a flight school.

SUB-TOPIC: Anybody paid money to learn/be trained how to do something that would strictly be a hobby for you?

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope to take guitar lessons sometime soon.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know I'm down to help you with that.

Freebies for friends.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 1, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would consider taking you up on this offer but I am undisciplined as fuck.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 1, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to be in Seattle again for most of a year starting in December.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 1, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

While most of the Northwest shudders at the might of your return to the local blog locale,

I embrace it. YOU WILL PLAY GUITAR LIKE A FUCKING TWELVE-SIDED DIE AT A COMIC-CON MEANT FOR THE SIGHTLESS (if you were the only one who had vision. Or whatever. Well, you know).

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 1, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm going to try to take a few flying lessons when I get back to the Seattle area.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fighter pilot

then I realized you have to join the military and care about your job to do this

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted to be a computer programmer.

After the firefighter, policeman, etc phase.

Luckily, I was able to be what I wanted to be. It doesn’t really cross my mind ever, but it is nice to think I actually became one.

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

First I wanted to be Pele,

then I wanted to be a cop because “you were allowed to drive fast and run red lights”. Then I learned that I wasn’t THAT good at soccer, and that being a cop is mostly about dealing with assholes. Later on as a kid I wanted to be a singer in a rock band. I got closer to that one, but then abandoned the musician life before it killed me.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

A vet.

But then high school came along and was just the biggest troLL and I crashed into reality.

by Coach Owens on Sep 30, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted to be a Radiologist.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Sep 30, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was hardcore into marine biology for a while.

And not just for dolphins and whales – I loved sharks and other fish just as much. Oceans: full of awesome.

You! Cake or death?

by Torrid on Oct 2, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

In this order:

X-Man

Forest Fireman

Green Lantern

Musician

Bo Jackson (playing for the Mariners and Seahawks)

Darryl Strawberry (pre-cocaine)

I managed to get one of those right. The closest I came to the others was receiving a written personal letter (before the internet) from Darryl Strawberry and living close to Hanford.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 2, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Topic: Weird food combinations.

Yesterday I was told that putting fries on a burger is somehow odd and disgusting. This surprised me, because I’ve never been subject to that opinion before.

Also, ketchup on eggs?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 5:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Not eggs, but my sister used to mix ketchup with mashed potatoes.

I found that really gross as a kid.

As for myself, I made a pickle and peanut butter sandwich the other day and my wife looked at me like it was grounds for a divorce.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think most mashed potatoes are too bland to take much in the way of condiments, so the condiments better be good on their own.

My favorite mashed potatoes: skin on, cream cheese, green onion, bacon bits, parmesan.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 5:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you mix it in, or just sprinkle it on top?

I really like making twice-baked potatoes, and I’ve been trying to think of things to add to them…

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mix it in after I mash the potatoes.

Potatoes are great because as Faux said, they are kind of bland on their own and can have a ton of things added to them.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Oct 1, 2010 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU!

No one else I know will even give it a try so it’s good to know someone else out there enjoys them.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I grew up eating those.

Still have cravings now and then.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, I haven't had that in years.

When my sister would babysti me, she’d make a peanut butter and pickle sandwhich, but only after I’d beg for an hour.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I make them with.

I’m really not sure if I’ve ever tried bread and butter pickles on them before.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet?

NOW THAT’S JUST WRONG

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was never that fond of peanut butter.

I do still occasionally need a peanut butter and honey sandwich (bread folded over, of course)

by msb on Sep 30, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like peanut butter, but I love peanut butter cups.

Peanut butter cookies are acceptable as well.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a second I thought that meant PB & Ham.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might try it, just to see.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've thought about trying

an hors d oeuvre recipe with high-quality thin-cut smoked ham rolls filled with a light coating of good PB, dill pickle, and marinated vinegar red onion.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow! Can't wait to get you over to my dinner party!

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly that sounds pretty good.

Granted it’s not the super sweetened PB.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO. Not the sweetened stuff.

Possibly some thinly cut cucumber spears in it as well.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, I missed lunch.

You’re killing me.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pet peeve!

Nothing against you, d0nkey, but I’ve heard that phrase a lot in the last couple months and it drives me nuts. Where else would you throw up? Your elbow?

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

So why not say "I almost puked"?

I don’t know why, but “threw up in my mouth” has always bugged me for some reason.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like "almost puked" could imply that you were just retching or gagging,

while “threw up in my mouth” implies you actually threw up a bit.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Sep 30, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I just don't see that as being worse than retching or gagging

I mean, if you’re gonna puke, puke. Don’t swallow it back down. COMMIT.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tough call if you're at work or some other public place.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see it as a legit way to get out of work or public.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not when they already think you're a raging alcoholic.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

The operative term is FUNCTIONING alcoholic.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once you start puking at work you're not functioning all that well.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

My pregnant friend would beg to differ.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

As an alcoholic.

I’m hoping she’s not both.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope. One of her frequent complaints is she cannot go drinking or eat sushi because of her larva.

Even funnier, when her husband tries to console her by saying he will quit too she gets annoyed and says she can drink him under the table embarrassingly fast anyway.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good woman.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Almost worse than just regularly throwing up. Because you have to swallow it again

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're like a mommy bird and a baby bird!

How cute!

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Sep 30, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've throw up through my nose as well as my mouth before.

It’s fucking terrible.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Sep 30, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't see you at Thingray's bachelor party.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had him tied up out back until he could behave himself.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is he the dick that stepped on my eyeglasses?

Oh wait. I remember who that was.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOTHING HAPPENED!!

YOU SAW NOTHING!! Oh wait, you didn’t see anything because your glasses were all kicked in.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get rid of the onion and I would try that.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Sep 30, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could go either or, but I love marinated onions.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

For those that wonder, ketchup on eggs is delicious and you are all heathens for thinking otherwise.

Not as delicious as hot sauce, but still quite good, especially with a liberal slather of pepper and red pepper flakes.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 5:52 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes.

I’ve been told it’s “trashy”, but I don’t give a fuck, because it’s delicious.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 30, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not all restaurants have said sauces. Often it's just ketchup.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

In my fridge it is.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Generally, yes.

But in greasy spoon diners, I’d prefer not to see it. Tabasco is fine.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hashbrowns, eggs over medium, bacon (or sausage),

Mix it all together, add Tabasco (and sometimes ketchup), and eat off of either an english muffin or slice of sourdough toast.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Skip the bread products and I'm in.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't do it myself but I could see fries on burgers.

ketchupy eggs on the other hand … there are very few things I put ketchup on.

Back in the days when I ate bologna, putting potato chips into a white bread, mustard & bologna sandwich was most excellent.

by msb on Sep 30, 2010 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to do just potato chips, yellow mustard, and Butter Top bread.

Those were some lean times, but tasty.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to work at Subway, and I would always put chips on my sandwiches.

Cheetos go great, but Doritos work too.

Being a vegetarian and working at a place that has one vegetarian option but offers free food every day sucks. There was a lot of experimenting done on my veggie sandwiches…

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

As long as it's chicken or pork, I wouldn't fuss, and I might even try it.

But the second it’s shrimp/seafood fried rice, the most holy of all fried rices, I draw the line.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

The best way to class this up

is the middle eastern dish shakshuka. It’s eggs poached in a spicy tomato sauce (I use a can of diced tomatoes.)

by yuniform on Sep 30, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right now there's a big fetish for Bacon and Chocolate together.

http://www.dt-works.net/ does a chocolate bread pudding with bacon custard sauce that was one of two bacon related highlights on my last trip. It’s a combination that’s delicious when done well, and awful when done poorly.

Our Chilean exchange student had a penchant for plain corn chips with sour cream, and potato chips with ketchup.

by Drew_D on Sep 30, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was he under the impression that it was imitation bacon?

Like the meatless variety? That would be a shock if he was a vegetarian.

I’m a vegetarian, and I hate imitation meats of any kind. I don’t like meat, why would I want something that isn’t meat but tastes like meat? I don’t get it.

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't go out of my way to put ketchup on my eggs

But if they mix on the breakfast plate then so be it. They go together alright, but I don’t mind my scrambled eggs as they are and don’t feel a need to add anything to them usually

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it seems weird at all, but everyone else tells me it is-

One of my favorite snacks is berry flavored yogurt with some cereal, mini marshmallows, wheat germ, chocolate chips, cut up fruit, etc., mixed together. Basically whatever I find in the kitchen that looks like it would make a good combination.

Does that seem weird to anyone here? Every time I eat it, I get weird looks. Even from people that see me eat it every week or so…

Also, ketchup on eggs is good, but I prefer salsa. And lots of cheese. I’ll eat ’em any way as long as there is a lot of cheese involved.

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not quite sure where the wheat germ fits in,

unless you’re just going for additional fiber. But other than that it sounds good.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

...I just like wheat germ.

Adds a nutty flavor without being all crunchy and stuff. That, I usually just sprinkle on top, not mix in.

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

So it seems someone's been sabotaging my experiments at work

Anyone ever have someone actively try to hinder them professionally?

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Sep 30, 2010 7:36 AM PDT reply actions  

About half of my 5th grade class

including the teacher

…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell

by Marinerfanjake on Sep 30, 2010 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Roughly half my teachers in 7th grade.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

You do science, so who are we to compete?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Office politics are everywhere

English Departments are some of the worst I’ve ever seen

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Sep 30, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the less work people do the more politics seems to come into play.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

So I've heard.

Of course, that’s mostly between professors. There are so many students in the department that when I gave them the forms to approve that I’d done everything for the major, the head of the dept. just glanced it over, checked it a few times, and passed it back.

Now, if I do anything at the graduate level, it’s going to get stupid.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you say the word, Kermit will show up and probably help you in this case.

You know what word.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

24? Not Kermit's type. I'm afraid you're fucked.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I were

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Sep 30, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Been there.

But she wore Uggs to work one day and totally killed any interest I had. It was a running gag with the rest of the lab to call her Nanook.

by Drew_D on Sep 30, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better than the Jack Wilson mole men?

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

My more serious answer is...

when I was in food service my manager was making me work six days a week and close about four of those, then when my review came up said I wasn’t working fast enough. Meanwhile, the two girls whose shifts I had been covering once or twice a week for months got promoted.

I’m not necessarily disappointed that it didn’t work out though.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've gotten a couple of assholes fired, so I'm really in no position to say anything.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Although if your boss is cool, talk to him/her and bring it up.

Just don’t start the conversation with “I don’t want to sound paranoid, but…”

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone can avoid having this happen at some point.

For me it was at a previous job where a certain person would tell the management that I was saying things I never said. He was only doing it to cover his own errors which I am happy to say showed through when I moved on to a better job.

by Sec 108 on Sep 30, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Psst. Guys.

I’m 99% sure this is fake. Sorry to burst your bubble.

by Eyebrows on Sep 30, 2010 10:32 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Really?

Literally? Like you can feel the tumors forming as your eyes move across the screen? And then you started having behavioral and emotional changes, impaired judgement and senses, and memory loss? And then the left half of your body became paralyzed and you pooped your pants?
And then you went to a doctor and it was diagnosed as brain cancer?

That is some intense posting that your friend does. Maybe you should try not to read them in the future OH WAIT YOU’LL BE DEAD OF BRAIN CANCER ANYWAY. Damn

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fake or no, I laughed

Even worse is that it could very likely be real because people these days are fucking stupid

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

People have always been fuckign stupid.

It’s just that now the rest of the world can see how stupid everyone else is.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Way to go, dawg

But you’re very right. Although I think people are more stupid now than they were, say, 10-15 years ago.

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would not say people are more stupid but that they think less

the ubiquity of the Internet has made it unnecessary to think about things as deeply as perhaps people used to, because hey there’s the answer RIGHT THERE!

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the average person is dumber now than 10-15 years ago

But the above average person is a lot smarter than the above average person of 10-15 years ago.

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree about the dumbness

Think of all the things you have to know in order to survive in this day and age. Now think about all the things you had to know in order to survive in, say, 1950. Are there more or less things? I don’t know, but I do know they’re a different set of things, and those things require knowledge.

Don’t confuse lack of curiosity with stupidity.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will agree to disagree for now. This could get into a lengthy discussion

and I do not have any facts to back up my instincts. But I will look into this because I am curious. It could very well be that the world has the same ratio of smart to dumb people as it has for decades.

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would not surprise me

and I definitely agree with toot’s post below that people care less about the smaller things.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess my point, is if there was a nuclear war (no politics) and 90% of everywhere was destroyed

I feel like the remaining 10% would have a more difficult time adapting in this age, than say in the 50s or 60s.

Maybe I’m way off here, but the amount of stuff people these days take for granted, that is vital for survival, would be hard to overcome.

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine attempting the great escape with a bunch of modern guys?

That movie wasn’t far off the mark with some of the tricks they pulled in those WWII POW camps, with the forging of documents, tailoring and tunneling techniques. Who knows how to do any of that anymore?

by Kermit. on Sep 30, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, we do it all the time on World of Warcraft in your mom's basement.

It ain’t that hard. When’s those chicks you were talking about gonna come over? I got my best sweats on.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or a moon shot from scratch, given a 10 year time frame starting today.

An engineer friend of mine works in the rocket industry, and we come around to that scenario once in awhile. He’s certain it wouldn’t be possible, with the testing and safety issues.

All those experimental planes and pilots, or the SeaLab experiments. He’s pretty funny in asserting all the ways it would die in committee.

by Kermit. on Sep 30, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I'll clarify that I'm referring more to spelling, grammar, and punctuation

The internet has made most of the younger people these days care less and less about getting this right. In an age of text messaging and Twitter limiting the amount of characters that can be used, it has caused all manner of fucked up spelling and grammar to come about. In addition, due to the aforementioned text-based communication, people are typing things in the exact same way that they talk, which leads to you saying things like that you are about to watch your grandpa fuck a man and not realize how bad that comes across when read

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Compelling proof:

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

More evidence:

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   5 recs

That dude looks like Kermit.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 2, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone have anything on the near horizon they are very excited about?

I have not been to any sporting events for about 3 1/2 months and I am currently scheduled for a Sounders match on Saturday, Mariner game Sunday and then the Sounders again next Tuesday. My voice will most likely be shot by Wednesday but I cannot wait to go to a game, or three, again.

by Sec 108 on Sep 30, 2010 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

I went to 3 Mariners games in 4 days just before Labor Day and it was terrible

I think replacing 2 of those with Sounders games would have greatly improved things for me.

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Had I seen this earlier I would have responded the Reds game I went to last night.

Granted, they lost, but I’ve never been to a baseball game featuring a playoff team (granted, I’ve only followed baseball since 2002) and I was hoping (correctly) that I would get to see Aroldis Chapman pitch.

You! Cake or death?

by Torrid on Oct 2, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

----

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Fuck, really!?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also,

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's some for you to start with!

http://timbersarmychants.blogspot.com/

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. But World Cup hero!

Wooooo!

Seriously, other teams should be learning from the Sounders in regards to DPs, and few of them seem to be doing so.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think a team like PDX could really use a WC hero for the ol' US of A

and I think it would make their team extremely strong and scary as all hell for a Sounders fan like myself.
Oh, I just hope they don’t sign a gritty American hero like Damarcus Beasley. Give us a fighting chance, Timbers! You don’t want someone like Alvaro Fernandes. Guy doesn’t even start. Bet the team already regrets that move. You need a name-brand, asses-in-seats American Hero.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

[snerk]

During the pregame ceremony, which starts at 6:40 p.m., the Mariners will honor The Boeing Company as the 2010 Fan of the Year. Thirty-four Boeing employees will be introduced on field representing the 34-years the Seattle Mariners and Boeing have partnered. There will also be some special fan awards presented including Fan Sign of the Year to Amy Franz, keeper of the Ichiro hit tally, the “Ichi-Meter” in rightfield, Fan Outfit of the Year, presented to George King, AKA Moose Man, and Fan Moment of the Year, presented to Iris Skinner, who had a memorable, very close encounter with Ichiro.

by msb on Sep 30, 2010 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Let's just say that back in the Kingdome days it was not uncommon for the team to have

games where they scored many runs in one inning. She would often tear off her shirt and start swinging it around and jumping up and down all while wearing only a sports bra.

by Sec 108 on Sep 30, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta admire enthusiam.

and at least it was a sports bra.

by msb on Sep 30, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Topic:

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

A tall lamp.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oooh - weapon of confusion!

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

BOOBLESS

cue zombies laughing as you make your escape

by Eyeball Kid on Sep 30, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Tiny laptop remote :(

Although the finger is actually pointing to a speaker, which may be of more use. I’m slightly annoyed that I can’t use the sword that’s six feet away.

by Eyeball Kid on Sep 30, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

A staple puller.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

I have a bag of Salt and Pepper Kettle chips, Old Spice Deodarant and A empty can of Snapellecrino.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 30, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looking to my right would be more useful.

I have a large stool and a Slider Rail that could be used for bashing.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 30, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or at least add to the smell.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He said he had a large stool.

I’m assuming he’s very scared of zombies.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

OH!

I have a power drill on my desk. But the battery is across the room. Also have a component cable and a Laptop stand.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 30, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

An armoire?

Or should I go with the towel that is hanging on the armoire or the suit that is in the armoire?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

To my right, a bottle of wine, a suitcase, and my bass guitar.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

You play bass guitar?

That was one of my zombie killing weapons too! Luckily it was the crappy one that I throw around the yard while practicing guitar spins and stuff…

SUB-THREAD: Anyone else here play an instrument? I’ve been in a couple bands over the past few years… I don’t read music or anything but I’m really good at what I do. Namely, playing high-energy pop-punk and bouncing off of stuff while jumping around…
I know kevin_ess is in a band or something. Anyone else?

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

To say that I play my bass would be exceedingly generous.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 1, 2010 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is hanging on the armoire itself.

I used to have a plastic hook but then it broke and I remained lazy.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 30, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Always know where your towel is.

Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Career .384 BA, .543 OBP for Rocky Diablos

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2010 2:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

That only works when hitchhiking.

I don’t think it qualifies as a zombie weapon.

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 3:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK, well can I choose? I have a miniature M's bat, general-purpose hammer, and a cat's paw.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait - is it attached to a cat?

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

M's bat is out of the question,

we all know those are useless and can’t hit anything.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   5 recs

.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that is referred to as a cat's claw, not paw.

At least it was back when I worked construction.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

When I search cats claw, I get herbs, when I search cat's paw, I get tools.

I could have just been hearing it wrong, but maybe you have been.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever. That's a badass tool.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really could be either way.

You never know with construction workers.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well there you go.

And I’m not even going to ask why you keep it so close.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Same reason as the hammer, various construction projects.

It acts as a great small-spaces prybar and nail puller.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bat'leth

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Too bad they're already dead! Hahahaha!

Which brings me to my next point. Can you technically “kill” a zombie, seeing as how they’re already dead?

by Coach Owens on Sep 30, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, you can't technically kill something that doesn't exist.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, man, zombies are more realistic than, say, vampires or werewolves!

Viruses are so complex, who’s to say that one couldn’t evolve to the point that it could bring dead tissue and nerves and stuff back to life?

by Coach Owens on Sep 30, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Viruses have no way of affecting so many disparate systems at once.

Let alone undoing such a complex occurrence as death.

I’m not pdb-level about zombies, but no. Just no. It’s the same amount of realism, because none of them exist.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don't need to be.

Even if the virus could restart a brain cell, a mind-numbingly complex thing in itself, it would also have to restart all the nerves, not to mention feed the muscles energy to get things moving again in the first place.

Where does it get that energy from?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Duh. A Harry Potter spell.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Point mutations change protein expression, protein shape/function, or the disappearance of a particular protein altogether.

They don’t allow a protein to restore cells. You are basically arguing that the rust on a engineless car up on blocks in Rainier Beach could theoretically put a new coat of paint on it and take it cruising downtown.

by abender20 on Sep 30, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Viruses don't die instantly.

Otherwise we wouldn’t have the problems we do today. At least not on this scale.

by Coach Owens on Sep 30, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Besides, it doesn't even have to be a virus!

In George A. Romero’s series, it was radiation or something. Or, heck, it could something genetically modified that goes wrong (i.e. Resident Evil)!

by Coach Owens on Sep 30, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I clicked on this link, I thought for sure that it would be

this one.

Zombies are real, just not the kind of zombies in folklore or that most people think of when they hear that word. Page two in the above link mentions it… Haitian priests used to collect naturally occuring neurotoxins found in puffer-fish and other things to put bodies in a near-death state. It was good enough to fool doctors, and keep the victims “dead” long enough to be buried and then dug up the next night. They would then be used as slave labor on plantations.
Clairvius Narcisse was a real zombie.

by nemo1 on Sep 30, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

A more likely occurrence would be some sort of parasite that controls your brain.

Such as can be found in ants and stuff, causing them to crawl to the tops of blades of grass to get eaten by birds so the parasite can infest the bird.

However, it’s still not going to happen. =/

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Sep 30, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or bury them under their girth.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

A scythe!

I’d say this little exercise went well for me

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

But I want the answer.

It’s not like Toot is Scruffy.

by Coach Owens on Sep 30, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Have we actually seen them standing next to each other?

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have a lot of old tools and shit hanging all over the walls in my office

Among them is a scythe. I also have several saws, a small hatchet, and even a 10 foot long gaffe hook. And that’s not counting all the heavy duty tools in the shop itself. I also have a forklift here, and it would be fun to drive around and smash zombies with it

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way, dude.

Toot may have the best weapons, but I’m the zombie expert here.

by Coach Owens on Sep 30, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's like being an expert on santa claus

Somewhat interesting, but ultimately useless.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

You do realize the danger of this decision, right?

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOO LATE, SHE HAS SPOKEN

PPPPOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we can file that under bad life decisions.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

A speaker.

I’m fucked.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks to this thread

I will be keeping some sort of bashing tool in my office drawer just in case

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

A heavy duty camera tripod.

Not terrible.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best answer yet!

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this an actual pic of the dude?

He looks like he could go crazy on a few zombies.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey,

back in his day the zombies had to shamble uphill both ways.

by Coach Owens on Sep 30, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Go for the eyes!

Or possibly find a lighter depending on how heavy duty the cleaner is.

by Drew_D on Sep 30, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Verbatim on the label:

“safe for you, safe for the planet”

DAMMIT!

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 30, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

The rest of the description is equally amusing:

“it your mission is to put the hurt on dirt, then this is your new partner against grime. it packs a powerful cleaning punch with natural, biodegradable ingredients and a non-toxic disposition. BAM! take that, dirty. to use: spray, wipe, admire”

No, they didn’t use caps either.

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 30, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

method

Its just what we use in the office I guess. The secondary language on the label? French! Not the 2nd most useful language in Southern California I would imagine.

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 30, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am using a laptop.

When I first read this, my answer was: A couch. Could probably do some damage, if you could get to a position where you could drop it from some distance onto a group of zombies. Of course, you would likely need help getting the couch into position, so not very practical.
Now that I am sitting up and facing a different direction, my answer is: A bicycle and a bass guitar.
That could be fun. Pedal through a crowd of zombies, whacking them with a crappy Squire P-Bass? Oh yeah.

Of course, if there actually were zombies around, I would carry my computer to the closet and place said computer next to a baseball bat. Or maybe carry the computer down to the gun shop a block from my house…

by nemo1 on Sep 30, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

A dinner plate. =/

It’s going to be like the record scene from Shawn of the Dead.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Sep 30, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Topic: Storm watching desitnations.

Instead of applying floating holiday time my wife had towards our honeymoon (as she should have done) her boss applied standard vacation hours, and she also forgot to inform her of this fact until about a week ago meaning she has until the end of the year to use two vacation days that have to be scheduled at least 45 days out.

Our plan is to take a long weekend and go to the beach, with the hope of some storms rolling in while we’re there. Most of our beach experience is from the Southern coast-Wesport, Ocean Shore, Long Beach, etc- and we’d like to maybe head up the coast a bit this time around. We aren’t looking for anything resort quality, just somewhere with hotels close to (or on, ideally) the beach. We’re probably not going to go anywhere aside from the room, the beach and maybe the grocery store, so the town itself is not a concern. Ability to take a ferry (even if we have to drive somewhere afterwords) would be neat. Suggestions?

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2010 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Go to Forks and be a sparkly bitch.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fine, La Push then?

You’ll only sparkle a little. Or Kalaloch.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about Victoria? You can probably get a hotel facing the Olympics for storm watching.

I’m not sure of what the beaches are like, but it would give you the chance to take a ferry and definitely hit up some beaches.

by Jed MC on Sep 30, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

There aren't any hotels right there with a view of the beach, but there are some on Fidalgo Island.

Bowman’s Bay a great spot to camping. The campground at Washington Park in Anacortes is nice, right by the ferry, and is also right by the beach.

by Jed MC on Sep 30, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Topic: Talking to stupid baseball fans.

Yesterday I posted a comment about a guy who told me he couldn’t hold Felix’s low win total against him because he plays for a bad team with a terrible offense. Then he told me he could hold his losses against him because “you just can’t win a Cy Young” with double digit losses.

Today I made the mistake of trying to engage him again in discussion. In addition another guy from the office was in the conversation who I had considered a pretty knowledgable guy. Instead of talking about wins and losses they both started droning on about the “AL East” and “Safeco inflating Felix’s numbers”.

Has anyone had any luck convincing people like this, or should I just walk away now?

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

I make it a point to not engage morons in conversation unless I can help it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what was so frustrating.

In the past it seemed like both were open to looking at things other than ERA, Wins and RBIs when discussing baseball. In Felix’s case they both turned into Murray Chass.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That makes a lot of sense.

I just fired off an email to both of them touching on Felix starting more games on the road than at home, his ground ball rate and how many times CC has actually faced the AL East (hint, less than half of his starts with 6 of those against the Orioles). They both replied but changed the subject. I guess that means they are convinced, but just don’t want to admit it?

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a good point from somebody yesterday that argued Felix may be pitching under more pressure than CC or Price

Because he knows that if he gives up even a single run that he will likely not win the game, causing him to be under more pressure to pitch well

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is an argument to be had there

the AL East has better players than the AL West – we saw this a few years ago with Cliff Lee/Roy Halladay where Lee had a better tRA, but had faced inferior hitters due to playing in the AL Central

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

But then you're getting more specific with the stats than the voters will usually go

Using just the basic metrics that the MSM point to, Felix has blown CC out of the water in everything but wins. So, the only case to be made for CC is win-total and then intangible stuff like pressure situations and the like

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

CC and Price should get points for pitching in the AL East.

I’ll agree to that. If all things were equal (or close to equal) in the stat line I’d have no trouble giving the award to either of them.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do agree.

But, much like that fanpost from a while back, it’s important to think like a voter if you’re going to speculate. That’s why so much of the discussion in the MSM has been related to reasons that Felix does not have more wins/less losses, or conversely why CC has as many wins as he does (run support for both, etc.)

I think my most favorite stat in all of this is that something like 10 of CC’s wins came against the Mariners, Royals, and Orioles

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, and the key is determining whether the argument is being used honestly or dishonestly

Honestly – let’s correct for quality of batters faced and see what happens!
Dishonestly – I believe CC should win; does this argument appear to advance that cause? Deploy!

I’d love to see the numbers, but the disproportionate number of starts CC’s had against the likes of Baltimore and Cleveland (7), and Sea/Oak (6) make me think that Felix might have faced tougher hitters. And that’s putting aside the fact that whatever effect this would have would likely be small.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't want to be the one to do it

but it would be interesting to go thru the data and compare Felix to C.C. and see who actually did face tougher batters.

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

BREF lists all batters faced by year

But you’d have to add the players’ season OPS back in (or, ideally, subtract the PAs versus the pitcher you’re looking at). It’d take time.

Anyway, CC’s top batters faced are mostly Baltimore players, as he faced the Orioles SIX times. Felix’s are mostly Rangers, then Angels with some Yankees thrown in.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, now with data (thanks to Jeff's 5 things post)

Felix Hernandez has faced the 139th toughest slate of hitters, with an average .727 OPS.
CC Sabathia has faced the 167th toughest slate of hitters, with an average .720 OPS.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah.

I mentioned above that the effect would be small and it is. But it’s still sort of delightful that people who want to give credit to CC for pitching in a ‘tougher division’ can’t rely on quality of batters faced either.
So they’ll fall back on ‘Felix isn’t in the pressure of a pennant race.’ Yay.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this argument still fails to overcome the difference in how good Felix was compared to how good CC was.

If there numbers were the same, CC probably should win. But since Felix did so much better, CC should not. Not saying that this is what you’re saying, just my thoughts.

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 30, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you know that Phil Niekro once led the league in wins and losses in the same season?

So many voters’ heads exploded out of confusion that year no Cy Young was presented.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a lot of this in sports.

Especially career records. You look at the most touchdowns thrown, and you’ll find similar names as the most interceptions. You have to be pretty darn good to stick around in sports long enough to set the “bad” records as well as the good ones.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

So my roommate and I last night realized that the Giants play the Padres for the last series of the season

however, it’s possible, if Atlanta slips up, that both teams could clinch a playoff bid on the same night. How awesome would it be if the game ended and BOTH teams started celebrating clinching playoff bids on the field at the same time?

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2010 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

TOPIC

Cheetos: Crunchy or Puffs?

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

CRUNCHY.

Puffs just feel stale to me.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crunchy.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crunchy.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crunchy. Not close.

Similar vein. Chex – Corn, Rice, or Wheat?

by James F'n X on Sep 30, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rice

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's the spinoff question.

Which ostensibly healthy cereals do you find absolutely delicious and even prefer to the sugary stuff?

For me, Corn Chex, Quaker Oatmeal Squares, Pecan Honey Bunches of Oats (or any of the others, really), the Fruit and Yogurt Special K, etc.

by abender20 on Sep 30, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grape Nuts

This reminds me I have to pick up some this weekend.

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quaker Oatmeal squares don't even hit the radar for healthy though

Or anything coated in yogurt. Cereal is the great pitfall of breakfast, it’s just so much damn sugar.

Getting back to the oatmeal squares, they get points for having 5 distinct types of sugar on their ingredients list. That takes effort. I can’t remember what it was called, but Quaker used to make a cereal with palm oil as the third ingredient behind oats and brown sugar. Now that’s a healthy part of a balanced breakfast.

by Drew_D on Sep 30, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Corn

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

None.

Chex is nasty.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crunchy, definitely.

When I was younger, I liked Puffs better, but now it’s crunchy for sure. Especially those Jalapeno Cheddar flavored ones. They’re kind of hard to find, though. I’m not a fan of the “flaming hot” ones or whatever they’re called, though.

by nemo1 on Sep 30, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife loves these.

I can eat about three before I’m done with them for a month.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOPIC: More food preferences

I think I Facebooked this a long time ago – Orange juice, pulp or no pulp?

by James F'n X on Sep 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Honestly I don't care, I just love orange juice.

SImply Orange especially if I can’t get fresh squeezed.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lots of pulp.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pulp

Until it gets to that point where I don’t remember how long ago I bought it.. then I do not like pulp because I think of mold while I drink it.

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pulp is a horrible punishment.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

All y'all are crazy, with your enjoying pulp ways.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I was a little kid I ate nothing but freeze dried ice cream and Tang one day.

I wanted to be an astronaut and thought that would be a good way to prepare myself for living in space. Needless to say after 3 meals of that I didn’t want to travel to space anymore.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Sep 30, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Lots of pulp.

Like my dad used to say “Too thick to drink, too thin to plow.”

Perfect OJ.

by nemo1 on Sep 30, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a joke about skinny and fat chicks in there somewhere.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No pulp.

Drinking things shouldn’t be a chore.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Sep 30, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

They should keep that to when other employees aren't around.

Workplace romances are not to be shared.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Question for people who know Subarus better than I do.

other than some minor trim/interior differences, are there any major differences between an ’04 and an ’05 WRX that I should consider?

by BrianL on Sep 30, 2010 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

This is all I found
Rev. E (2005)
The WRX received an updated interior, body color rocker panels, black painted headlamp bezels, and wheels that were previously seen on the base US-spec Legacy and a single-port exhaust. Some WRX models have an STI hood scoop that is much larger than other WRX scoops. The suspension has also received a few small updates to make handling more efficient compared to the 2004 model. Cassette players in the stereo system were no longer offered as well.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 30, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?!
Cassette players in the stereo system were no longer offered as well.

by Sec 108 on Sep 30, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was all about the auto-reversing deck man.

Shit they even had ones that would fast forward to the next song on the tape.

by Sec 108 on Sep 30, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like scotch tape?

Or masking tape maybe? Oooh, how about the blue painter’s tape?

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure they're talking about duct tape.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't you have a soiled Pull-Up to attend to?

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

I’m going commando today

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ta-DOW!

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can wait while you get your cane so you can chase me out of your yard.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh shit.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I told you that's not my name.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is turning out like the Sandlot.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that movie.

Favorite baseball movie subthread!

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Rookie or Major League.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, and I'm a sad sucker for Field of Dreams.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the Original Bad News Bears wins it for me.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good lord I love that movie so much

it’s been years since I’ve seen it. Gotta check it out again.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's ask kermit and friends if they agree.

Guys?

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

It's official then.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I was a kid, I was a sucker for Rookie of the Year.

Sandlot beats its brains in now, but at the time I was the exact type of kid it was marketed to and I ate it up.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rookie of the Year sucked.

Little Big League is surprisingly good.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Sep 30, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh, didn't care for that one either.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember loving Little Big League as a kid

That’s why I’ll never watch it again.
Wasn’t Timothy Busfield a star player in that one?

by yuniform on Oct 1, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll check when I get home. Whatever the remake was

I guess part2 isn’t the name for it. That one with Billy Bob Thornton in it

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, but no

Turns out there were two sequels to the original – Bad News Bears in Breaking Training, and Bad News Bears Go To Japan. Never seen either one, and don’t particularly want to.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Corco?

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's just rude

he’s not toxic, and he doesn’t require shipping.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Man, you've got to lay off of that self-tanner.

I can’t even see you in your avatar these days.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Illegal, yes.

Impossible, no! Where do you think I get all that money to drive state highways?

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Sep 30, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm riding with Corco.

Shotgun!

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lindsay Allen's (sp?) mother

she’s a substitute on my bowling team.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha! Really!

Wow. It is a small world.

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Oct 1, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had never met her before

and we were doing the usual small talk about jobs, hometowns, etc and she mentioned she was from McCall. The conversation took itself from there.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't care for The Rookie all that much.

Major League for sure.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Sandlot. Hands down.

I will probably watch that at least once a year for the rest of my life.

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite baseball movie as well.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has to be Major League

You may run like Hayes, but you hit like shit.

by Drew_D on Sep 30, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

Teach me to OT after a solid week of insomnia.

by Drew_D on Oct 1, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've said it before.

Curveballs along the way: the Joe Torre story

for all the wrong reasons.

by msb on Sep 30, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those things were awesome.

I remember how it rocked my world when I finally got one.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if they're DLT or DAT?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although why you would think to put mission critical storage in your car is beyond me.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely 1/4" reel to reel.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wil Wheaton sums it up.

@wilw Marketing can have a strong influence on the weak-minded. #starwars3D #facepalm #lucasisfistingmychildhood

by msb on Sep 30, 2010 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Even if none of them are "stars" today, who would have ever guessed that four young kids put together on a movie set, 4 unknowns, would have turned out to have careers.

River Phoenix, Jerry O’Connell, Wil Wheaton, Corey Feldman.

I was just thinking that when I watched Stand by Me the other night.

Yes Kiefer, you get a shoutout too. And you too John Cusack.

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 30, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just going to post that.

Seriously, guy’s a gem.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 30, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You'd probably remember that Ray Harryhausen

supposedly came up with the 80s Clash of the Titans movie to show people that Lucas’ stupid CGI wasn’t as exciting as the classic stop-motion animation. But even he couldn’t resist aping Star Wars, by making Bubo the mechanical owl R2D2 with feathers.
I find it odd that now it’s Lucas who’s feeling that some new technology is threatening to take over, so he rushes out a 3D version. Not exactly the same, as Lucas is actually using it, but it made me think of Harryhausen and his anger at Star Wars.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that he used the Lucas is fisting my childhood hash tag.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Sep 30, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet another amazing thing I missed completely.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Jesus, Young. Nice one!

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW!!

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Sep 30, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any info on what game this was?

I want to see the real highlight. That’s awesome and I like that Young kept his arm up when he hit the ground, real heads up play there

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm looking.

Shit – I just refreshed, and the image disappeared. Weird.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOPE.

They done fucked up.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just on that same site

I’m going to look up the replay on mlb.com when I get home and have a real computer at my disposal

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like this image...

I like to pretend not to see the split screen shots and imagine an outfield looking like that with a ball in play. Or several, as it were.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen the gif before

But never in a place where I would be able to ask about which game it was and get a legit answer

by tootthekazoo on Sep 30, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Found it above.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Wilson is pretty pleased by it :)

I forgot Delwyn Young was even on the team

by msb on Sep 30, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's capable of making coherent movies from what I hear (The Straight Story, The Elephant Man).

He just doesn’t most of the time. And it’s pretty clear why if you’ve ever tried to watch his director’s commentary on anything.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 1, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate David Lynch so much.

Not because he’s not a good director, but because he can make the most compelling film for 90 minutes and then just take a dump on the audiences faces. He’s extremely talented and most likely a genius, but fuck you Lynch, I want a real ending to Mulholland Drive.

For a good Lynch movie, I recommend Surveillance to everyone. It’s a good Lynch movie because it was made by his daughter Jennifer.

by Kenneth Arthur on Oct 1, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blue Velvet got a real ending and it was awful.

Also now I kind of want to track down and post gifs of the baby in Eraserhead but then people would get really mad at me so I probably won’t.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 1, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have almost no qualm with anything and just a GIS of that skeeved me out.

I’d say it’ll be a good thing if you never post that, because it just has no place anywhere.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

Ice-licking knights and even spiders are one thing but that?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 1, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a big fan of the spiders, really. I just like how other people react.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

This time of year, I tend to go on a baseball exploration spree (hence my last couple of topics). I’m sure Matthew (or someone of equally high intelligence) may have either posted or read this before, but I found it an interesting read. Thoughts?

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I tried to read that since I'm bored right now.

I got to the word probabilistically and I can’t stop trying to read this. It sounds wrong every time I try to say it in my head.

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, so reading into this a bit I have a question regarding fielding metrics.

The first thing this article talks about is the fact that it doesn’t have a starting coordinate for a player before a ball is hit. Does UZR take this into account?

So for a ball that is hit in the gap (the most difficult location for plays on a grounder) where the defense has a full shift on, wouldn’t that show up as a “tough” play?

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is one of my bigger questions as well.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 30, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a really awesome read.

I would imagine that the frequency of the balls-in-play where the defense is shifted are so small in the overall scheme of things that they wouldn’t factor too heavily either way right?

by d0nkey on Sep 30, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Given a big enough sample size, it shouldn't be a problem, right?

Because most teams would use the same plan in implementing shifts, so it should even out.
… I think.

Still, it would be better not to worry about it. I hope there’s something in the mechanism to correct for that, and if there isn’t, there should be.

by nemo1 on Sep 30, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beyond the Box Score ranked the offenses in the major leagues.

Park adjusted runs scored:
Pittsburgh Pirates (Last in the NL): 591
Seattle Mariners (We use a DH!): 491

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 30, 2010 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Thats the point. Felix would have raised that the full 100.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 30, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tacoma Beer Festival this weekend, or rather this Friday evening and all day Saturday.

Friday night’s includes 50 firkins/cask ales from breweries like Seven Seas, Oskar Blues, etc.

Brewers at the festival include Walking Man, Ommegang, Lost Coast, Great Divide, Ninkasi, Anderson Valley, Green Flash etc. Mostly western, obviously.
Link!

by marc w on Sep 30, 2010 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Tacoma, you say?

Why, that’s just a short drive down the road, hmmmm. Hey, Engine House #9! Tried their IPA’s twice now and have nothing but good to report. Terrific atmosphere as well, really nice pub.

by Kermit. on Sep 30, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Define "near".

Are you in a car or on MAX? staying downtown, or elsewhere? Do you like good beer? Here’s a few:

 - Green Dragon, on 9th and Belmont. Quick cab ride, not easy to get to otherwise
 - Widmer Brewing, just up the yellow line at Interstate at Tillamook (get on the Yellow Line toward the Expo Center, and get off the train at Albina/Mississippi and walk two blocks in the direction the train is going)
 - Gotham Tavern, also at Albina/Mississippi MAX stop but right at the stop
 - Downtown, there’s Bailey’s Taproom at Broadway just off Burnside

Let me know your mode of transportation and I can give you a bunch more good places to go. the Rose Quarter is notoriously devoid of good places to drink.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The B-Side!

On Burnside, W. of the Doug Fir. I’m not sure how far that is to walk, but it’s justifiable.
(Actually, uh, what kind of bars do you like?)

by marc w on Sep 30, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always forget about that place

which is annoying because I love that place.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was listening to Jay Buhner on the radio today for a second

I think Calabro was talking to him or something, and asked him about managers. Apparently Buhner would be in favor of a “big name” field manager. I’ve been thinking off and on about Tony LaRussa for a while and I’m curious how you feel.

The thing I like overall about LaRussa is that he seems intellectually curious with his bullpen usage and willingness to buck convention to consider batting the pitcher 8th. I’m not so excited about him that I wouldn’t hear about others, but I’d like to see those kinds of qualities in the next manager.

Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Career .384 BA, .543 OBP for Rocky Diablos

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2010 1:17 AM PDT reply actions  

But with LaRussa we probably get Dave Duncan.

Not sure it’s worth it, but it’s interesting to think about.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

When?

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I’d still take him as pitching coach any day of the week.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like him because he refuses to play Colby Rasmus because of his ego.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Oct 1, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you play the violin, you're a violinist... but if you play the bugle, you're a bugler.

So if you play the tuba, are you a tubist, or a tuber?

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2010 2:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Man, I HATE IT when people say "drummist"

when referring to people who play the drums. I never thought I would hear someone say that, but I have heard several people, none of which had any connection, use the term “drummist.”
GAH.

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 3:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always called myself a tubaist.

The first book of tuba sheet music I got had this short, fat kid with a vertical-stripe shirt on. I knew I’d made a terrible mistake.

by yuniform on Oct 1, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Topic: They have wrestling now on SciFi? Really?

What next, the Discovery Channel starts showing reruns of Cinemax’s softcore porn?

I already have enough reasons to never watch non-sports TV.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 5:52 AM PDT reply actions  

It's part of their effort to shed the "geeky" label.

They even changed their name to “SyFy”. I thought they had a pretty good niche on cable tv with the old science fiction shows and first run series like Battlestar Galactica. I don’t care about bad made for cable movies and wrestling. Plenty of channels have that already.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Oct 1, 2010 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least those cater to the same audience.

MTV – Tweens, most that watch will soon be eligible for that show
CN – Adults that watch cartoons, now watching live action shows that mimic cartoons.

Not that big of a stretch.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

But he's a HOF writer with 35 years of experience!

Plus the cowboy hat lets me know that he’s a straight shooter and easy to trust.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Oct 1, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Same here, but he was a bit of a dipshit with stuff

Though that was more that the game, like most Rockstar games, was written with a strong narrative that your gameplay did not have to adhere to. So, you could be in a town and violently kill a hundred innocent people but then get in a mission and John would be vehemently against killing anybody

by tootthekazoo on Oct 1, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still need to get this game.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bananas.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Oct 1, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

We've had this conversation before.

He’s from Wyoming, he’s mostly written for Midwest papers like the Rocky Mountain News (had a brief stint with the P-I) and plus his name is Tracy and he’s spent a lot of time in Missouri, Wyoming, Colorado, and Texas, I mean he has to do something.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it did kinda seem that way

But still not really that big of a thing. But as I said, Mora seems to think everybody is against him so he would have read that as a snipe against him

by tootthekazoo on Oct 1, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hell yes!

R.E.M. 8-pack for Rock Band on Tuesday!! And not shitty songs, either!

Driver 8
It’s the End of the World As We Know It
Living Well is the Best Revenge
Radio Free Europe
Stand
Superman
These Days
What’s the Frequency Kenneth

And three from T. Rex!
Children of the Revolution
Cosmic Dancer
Jeepster

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

I might have to dust off my RB2 disc...

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Driver 8 is about my favorite REM song

and when we were in college we figured out all the words to It’s The End Of The World As We Know It – this was before the Internet, kids, so we had to keep stopping the tape (!) and writing them down and starting again. That song is permanently seared into my brain now. Birthday party cheesecake jellybean BOOM!

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to do that with Jimi Hendrix songs.

I had a lyrics book with all of his songs deciphered…which is tough if you’ve ever listen to him sing.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had a friend who was a huge Hendrix fan,

and for the first year that he listened to him, this friend thought Hendrix was gay because he misinterpreted the lyrics to Purple Haze as “’Scuse me while I kiss this guy.”

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Because that is about the oldest joke around.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been hearing that since back in high school when people discovered Hendrix's music.

Are you sure he wasn’t yanking your chain?

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he was totally serious.

It took some convincing. He didn’t believe me, until I showed him the lyrics on the internet…

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.....

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

That song is a bitch in karaoke.

Especially after multiple drinks or if you’re not the one trying to sing it.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree on it being a terrible song.

Though my fondness for that song from my childhood precludes it from being wiped from the face of the earth.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm usually not one of those people that thinks a single album "ruined" a band

but Green and Out Of Time were so radically different than what had come before them that REM were never the same again, and not necesarily in a good way.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Green for REM did something similar to what Rattle and Hum for U2 did to me.

The band was quirky and fun before that album and became awful for me afterward.

by Sec 108 on Oct 1, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was sorta OK with Green

but I remember when Out Of Time came out I was pretty disturbed by how bad it was, and it has been mostly downhill for me with REM since.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Joshua Tree is a decent album

I wouldn’t go so far as to call it great, though. But that’s just me.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're very hard to please.

It has three of their ten-best songs on it.

by ThomasG on Oct 1, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair most of my problem with Joshua Tree is its production

the songs themselves are pretty good, but it is not a well-produced or mixed album at all. It sounds very muddy and dated.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a valid criticism

If there ever was a blemish on Brian Eno’s record as a producer, it was his work with U2 which, strangely enough, is usually his most lauded production outside of the Bowie triptych.

Personally, I think quality of sound gives the album this wonderfully anachronistic and quinessentially soaring 80s sound that works remarkably well with the subject matter. Especially in songs like “Where the Streets Have No Name” and “Red Hill Mining Town”

by ThomasG on Oct 1, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Errr...should read "of the erroneously-assigned Bowie triptych."

Eno was never truly credited with production on those albums (I believe it was Visconti) though, by most accounts, Eno was in the driver’s seat for most of it.

by ThomasG on Oct 1, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It may be to some, but it was a warning sign for me much as Green was for REM.

Some great stuff on both, but they were also a step away from what I had enjoyed.

by Sec 108 on Oct 1, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not trying to imply that this is the case here,

but I always get annoyed when people complain when bands put out albums that don’t sound like their old stuff. For one, don’t they deserve the chance to make whatever music they want to? For two, don’t we complain when bands like AC/DC just pump out the same thing for ever and ever?

Sorry for the rant, it’s just kind of a pet peeve of mine. I like to see musicans broaden their horizons and take chances.

I also hate it when people don’t use turn signals, you lazy jerks.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate it when those damn kids run across my lawn.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm absolutely fine with different directions as long as that direction is good

but in REM’s case, the new direction(s) they took were very rarely interesting or good.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bands are allowed to do whatever they want and we are all allowed to judge as we see fit.

I like AC/DC being true to their style personally. REM was a band I really enjoyed, but I do not like what they became. Some obviously do because their records sell. All that being said I will not apologize for hating what bands become after getting rich and comfy sometimes. It is my prerogative.

by Sec 108 on Oct 1, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

On that note, fuck you, Everclear.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked some of their stuff.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Santa Monica is about the only song of theirs I can stand

the rest of their stuff was so emo (lyrically, at least), I just couldn’t get in to it.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

World of Noise was emo?

OK… I guess…

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

WoN was their first album?

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I assumed you knew more because you are a Portlander.

Fair enough.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a native Portlander though

I moved here in 2003 when Everclear were no longer really doing much except playing the occasional show. I still see the lead singer guy driving around quite a bit though, at least when I’m back in my old neighborhood.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aha. I didn't know that, you seem like a true Oregonian.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh, maybe it's a generational thing.

I just asked a friend of mine about 5 years older than me and he had no idea who I was talking about.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I played shows with them during their WoN tour.

DEFINITELY NOT EMO.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 1, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

THEY WERE SO GOOD UNTIL FUCKING SMFTA

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was disheartened,

but it’s hard to be mad at friends who made it big off of doing the same shit I’ve struggled with almost my entire life.

Fuck that Elliot Smith guy for quitting Heatmiser and stopping touring with us because he wrote awesome music for a major motion pict— what? Oh. He’s with Kurt now?

Hell is going to be a fucking high school reunion for me.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 1, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

That record (and the subsequent ones) turned me off of music for years.

They were my first realization that money will come before talent every time, and it killed 15 year old me.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes musicians grow up, realize the want to slow down, and make a record that not all of their old fans appreciate.

Sometimes a musician never grows up, records an album they THINK people will love, and throw it all away.

It’s a fine line.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 1, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just liked the riff in Santa Monica.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Just like it’s their perogative to make boring corporate music if they want to, or they can decide to put out a rap album. Either way we don’t have to buy it, and we don;t have to apologize if we don’t like it.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have found that a lot of mainstream bands usually make one good album

and then either turn into cookie-cutter music, or else try too hard to be different. My favorite examples are Green Day and Fall Out Boy. They both recorded small albums before they got super famous, and those albums are the only music of theirs that I will listen to. For Green Day, it’s 1039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours and Kerplunk (Dookie was okay too), and for Fall Out Boy, An Evening Out With Your Girlfriend. Then they got famous and started to suck hard.
The Yeah Yeah Yeahs also… Their first couple albums, Fever To Tell and the one before that, were great, and then it just seemed like they were trying too hard to be original and not doing it right.
It may be just my taste in music, but I feel like a lot of bands only record one or two good albums, and then it all goes downhill.

by nemo1 on Oct 1, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually agree with this.

There are very few bands where I have more than one album. Where I really apply that rule is with heavier bands because I find once a band gets signed they lose their angtsy energy that made the music interesting.

by Sec 108 on Oct 1, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

My theory on this:

When bands release their first album they have had many years of experience to write songs from, and a large catalog of songs to pick from to make the best or “perfect” album.

Once they release the album and it’s a hit, the label wants another album ASAP, or right after they tour. For this second album they don’t have any time or real life experiences to draw from, so you get sub-par songs.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

As you should, minion.

BUWAHAHAHAHAAAAA

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not much of a stretch.

It’s something you can take on a case by case basis, but I remember when Interpol released Turn on the Bright Lights (and finding weird MP3s on the internet was still fairly easy) I ended up coming up with a lot of tracks that ended up being released in some capacity on Antics.

There are other examples that are notable as well, Radiohead being a popular one where for many albums afterward, they were still releasing tracks that came together originally around the time of OK Computer, or had been reworked over years of live shows before getting properly packaged, or both. I’d slot them as the more successful version of this phenomenon, but at the same time, I think that sometimes people get excited because it’s a Radiohead album more than the merit of the artistic work necessarily warrants.

Some bands or artists do manage to get better as time goes on. The first album The National put out has one or two okay tracks and doesn’t say anything that seems to come from a clear “voice” so to speak. Or as a different example, Okkervil River had a good debut that had a stinker or two in there, a solid (underrated perhaps) second album that had fewer flaws, and then started to hit their stride for a while until they released The Stand-Ins when they started to slip a little (and in that case, I’d point out that it and The Stage Names were originally planned as a double album, and most of the best material was probably put in there when that idea fell through).

The problem is that particularly with upstart artists on big labels, there’s always a push to be productive when it’s a huge strain to be operating at a high artistic level at all times. Consequently, they end up pushing mediocre material, seconds if you will, that they don’t really give a shit about and burn out somewhere along the way. I’d say one of the reasons Tom Waits has managed to stick around so long without a huge variance in quality is because he’s been able to afford those fallow periods to work things out and keep them fresh for him.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look, I wrote an essay again!

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

On further review....

Waits probably was not the best example because holy shit he was an album a year from 73-78 (nevertheless, Closing Time, The Heart of Saturday Night, and Nighthawks at the Diner are all VERY different albums) and had five albums from 80 to 87. It’s been more recently that he managed to get the gap years in.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kerplunk! was probably the better of the two.

39/Smooth, I often felt far too much like I was listening to a bunch of teenagers.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Green was their first album after the label switch from IRS to Warner Bros.

I’m sure WB paid a lot of money to REM and wanted their music to be more appealing to the general 80’s audience. REM had also put out 5 albums on IRS plus Dead Letter Office and Chronic Town, had their first mainstream hit with “The One I Love”, got a taste of money and probably wanted more of it.

I agree with your taste in their music that the pre-Green stuff was way better.

by Jed MC on Oct 1, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure. I wouldn't lay all of REM's decline on the record label.

It’s more correlation than causation along with personal preference for their early work. REM made a shitload more money in the Green – Monster days than they did before, so they were probably happy.

by Jed MC on Oct 1, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh, so Bob Rivers is now unemployed

After 21 years on the air, he was unable to come to an agreement with CBS radio about his contract, so he walked away. He has a 6-month non-compete clause, but plans to “re-emerge” after that ends. And so ends a long run of yet another morning show in Seattle. I remember when The End changed up their programming and fired Andy, Steve and Jodi many years back. That was a good show and it was sad to see them go. I enjoyed having Bob Rivers on the radio during the morning while here at work and I am hopeful that his replacement can keep me entertained

by tootthekazoo on Oct 1, 2010 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I am really curious about something.

Somebody told me the T-Man just upped and quit awhile back to pursue something else. Does anyone know what he was “pursuing”?

I had heard from someone who works in Seattle radio that he was getting paid a good 7 figures a year so I imagine it had to be something worthwhile.

by Kenneth Arthur on Oct 1, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

So I have two landscape-formatted pages in a pdf that I want to extract and turn into a nice, neat 2-page pdf for a writing sample.

Before, I just used Grab (I’m on a Mac) on each page and attached the two pages separately, but now I need each page nice and neat on one two-page pdf. What do I do?

by Decatur on Oct 1, 2010 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Mogul or Baseball Manager Online?

I am interested if the latter. I really enjoyed it and think I may have time again.

by Sec 108 on Oct 1, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah BMO

I figured enough time has passed since the last one where memories of the two leagues won’t bleed together. RIP Brian Beavon :(

by Robert on Oct 1, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to figure out if I want to play as the Mariners this time.

On one hand I would get to play in a 4 team division with an extra lineup spot that would allow me to do terrible terrible things to the rest of the league but on the other I would probably be forced to trade Felix in order to build my team the way that I like to :(

by Robert on Oct 1, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matthew built teams differently than I did.

I like to slash and burn my teams every 15 years in order to get as much elite talent on it as possible and in order to pay for that I need to save money by keeping my payroll as low as possible in the building years. He was really good at piecing in replacements in every few years at a different position so the team never got too old.

His peaks were longer but mine were slightly higher. Also my teams were clutch in the playoffs

by Robert on Oct 1, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I drink at lease 100 beers per year.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was easily the most overrated owner in BMO

Oh look at me. Look at how awesome this pitcher is that I just spent 20 million dollars a year on. I sure have a great eye for talent. BRB gotta go be mediocre in the playoffs until all of the other owners stop playing this game.

by Robert on Oct 1, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

?
I figured enough time has passed since the last one where memories of the two leagues won’t bleed together.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I'd be up for it again

I’m settled in at work enough now to be able to give it the time it needs

by tootthekazoo on Oct 1, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell

by Marinerfanjake on Oct 1, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

In "No, duh" news

Joe Morgan still thinks CC is the Cy Young winner, because, hello, wins.

I think [Jon Lester’s] always been in the race in my mind. I like what Felix Hernandez has done, but he has won only 12 games. People say that he doesn’t get support from his teamamtes, but guess what, every award is a team award. You can’t win the MVP without your teammates. Do we look at an MVP candidate and say his team didn’t give him a chance to drive in runs? The fact is that Felix has won 12 games and CC has won 20. It is harder to win in a championship environment in New York than in Felix’s situation. Just look at AJ Burnett this year. Felix has done a good job this year, but he’s not in the same difficulty level of pitching this year as CC.

by msb on Oct 1, 2010 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

.

I mean, we give Gold Glovers their award and say that they didn’t actually play!
(Palmeiro)

M's fan in PA, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Oct 1, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Morgan has finally convinced me.

He’s convince me that you can have a Hall of Fame baseball career and not know shit about baseball.

by Kenneth Arthur on Oct 1, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Considering that the baseball championship has been won 35 times in New York City

and zero times in Seattle, I would suggest to Mr. Morgan that Seattle is actually the more difficult town to win a championship in.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Every once in a while Bill Simmons still writes good stuff

Like this column about Michael Vick.

WARNING: If you’ve never read the column he links to about the death of his dog, get a case of Kleenex handy before you do. Not a box, a case. Even if, like me, you’re not a dog person.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't agree with his statements about Vick at all.

Explaining away his treatment of animal abuse as cultural? Give me a break. Do I love spiders? Hell no. Would I ever hook up electricity to fry one? Of course I wouldn’t. Vick is a broken man, and I hate his guts.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah, I don't really agree with it either

but it is the calmest, most rational attempt to explain why someone still likes Michael Vick that I have read yet.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

It depends on where you draw that "irredeemable" line.

Everything is s sliding scale. There are people that would think you are irredeemable because you are willing to eat a hamburger, or shoot a deer, or feed your snake live mice. Do you use insect killer or mouse bait?

People that grew up around it or had a neighbor that did it back in the 60s or something probably draw that line in a different spot than you. Does that make them wrong? Maybe in your eyes, but not in everyone’s.

It’s probably not a good idea to continue going down this road, so I’ll stop here and I suggest people watch their words carefully in this subject.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

People in certain MLB offices can stop being jackasses any time now.

So, remember when FanGraphs was having a hell of a time getting minor league data earlier in the season because of negotiations with the MLB? Now, MinorLeagueSplits has been shut down presumably over the same because Baseball wants to keep greater control over certain things.

This is awful. For one, the data that you can get out of the actual MiLB.com sites have always been lacking. Want HBP? Sac bunts or sac flies? Any splits at all on the previous team of a player that was promoted? Too fucking bad. The only way you could get these in addition to fancier shit like groundball rates (instead of ratios) is because the guy who runs minor league splits developed a tool to crawl through and parse game logs. Not only that, his site was the only resource of any form of historical data and thus tracking trends not only year-to-year but within a single year. Now it’s effectively shut down.

Someone’s disrupting the flow of information and ruining the opportunity for analysis (this was how I noticed) for no good reason.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

POWER TRIP!!!

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT THE FUCK

Okay, I just looked up Baseball-Reference and it seems like they had to take down ALL of their 2010 seasons from the player pages.

I need to go find the commissioner’s office and fuck someone’s shit up.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it's in NY somewhere.

And I’m sure it’s in a fancy neighborhood.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That means they got more shit to break.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love the way you think.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be there with my crock pots and hobo-knuckles when you need me.

Fairly certain PositivePaul will be in my sidecar.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 1, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Statcorner, I hope you've got new servers.

It’s now unquestionably one of the most important sources for minor league data.

by marc w on Oct 1, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm worried they'll get shaken down soon enough.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

This article on Papelbon isn't all that great but I did find it funny for a few reasons.

- Papelbon was happy he could silence his doubters that said he wouldn’t make it as a reliever, and should be a starter. (Uhhh.. Jon, it is better to be a starter. You should want to not silence them.)

- Papelbon is excited to go into his free agency year next year and “set the market for closers.” (Uhhh.. at 12 million or so next year, you may be a free agent sooner than that.)

link

by Kenneth Arthur on Oct 1, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Who wouldn't want to set the market for an overrated thing?

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tulip bulbs and cloves.

It might be. I have mixed feelings about the whole thing, on one hand not wanting to do things that jeopardize other people’s future welfare and on the other I get spiteful when people really aren’t paying attention (plus money).

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by JY on Oct 1, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did anyone see highlights from the Rangers/Angels game last night?

If not, you missed Erick Aybar’s hilariously bad batting eye. (It’s about 20 seconds in.)

The reaction shots really put it over the top for me.

by schismatix on Oct 1, 2010 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Saw that last night.

At first glance it looked like it got him straight in the junk, but now it looks more like the thigh. Still hilarious though!

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it looks like it missed by about a half an inch.

I don’t think I’ve seen a batter walk back to the dugout as quickly as Aybar did after that AB.

by schismatix on Oct 1, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did stop to check his junk first.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scioscia looked like he was crying he was laughing so hard.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Oops, reply fail.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"

by Thingray on Oct 1, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

THERE'S NO FUNDAMENTALS WITHOU FUN.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 1, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you ever seen a DAMENTAL?

It’s basically a retarded Cocker Spaniel/Dalmatian mix that’s been hit in the head with an errant whiffle bat (one of those big red plastic ones).

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 1, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

WITHOU is a German word. Fuck you guys.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 1, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who is watching what in college football today?

My game is South Carolina vs. Alabama. I’m terrified.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 2, 2010 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Nevermind. Bye week. Alabama is next weekend.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Oct 2, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

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