Today's Fun Fact(s)
Yesterday, Ryan Langerhans went 2-3 with a walk - his 23rd of the season, over 120 plate appearances. It was also his 22nd unintentional walk, giving him a league-leading unintentional walk rate of 18.5%. In second place, among batters who have come up at least 100 times, is injured Indians backstop Carlos Santana, at 18.4%. If Langerhans can sustain this over just two more weeks - or, more likely, not play at all - then that'll be an interesting little gold nugget in 2010's radioactive, polluted riverbank.
This isn't the first time Langerhans has done this, by the way. He came up 139 times for the Nationals in 2008 and managed to draw 25 bases on balls. Three views:
(1) Ryan Langerhans is a good bench player because he always bats hot, when most players would be cold
(2) Ryan Langerhans gets so cold sitting on the bench that he forgets how to swing
(3) Ryan Langerhans is a career bench player because he is so reliably sluggish and fucked up from the night before
Amazingly, Langerhans' 2010 only ranks 18th in modern-era walk rate for part-time players. Leading the way: John Jaha's 2000, in which he batted 133 times and drew 33 unintentional walks. John Jaha seems like the right kind of guy to hold that record.
On the other end of the spectrum, Jose Lopez has drawn two fewer walks than Ryan Langerhans over 467 more plate appearances. Jose Lopez has nearly four times more plate appearances than Ryan Langerhans, and he's walked less. Ryan Langerhans could come to the plate 467 times between now and the end of the season somehow, and he could fail to draw a single walk, and he would still come out with a higher walk rate than Jose Lopez. He could even retroactively donate one of his walks to charity.
However, Lopez isn't in pursuit of any record. His walk rate was actually a little worse a year ago, and among players with at least 550 plate appearances, his current uBB% of 3.4% ties him for 148th-lowest in the modern era. Jose Lopez is aggressive, impatient, and undisciplined, but he's no Deivi Cruz or Manny Sanguillen. He's just a more ordinary kind of bad, which might be the worst kind.
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Even more impressive is that Carlos Santana plays catcher for the Indians
That record with the Matchbox 20 guy really opened a lot of doors.
by lemonverbena on Sep 20, 2010 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
"He's just a more ordinary kind of bad, which might be the worst kind."
The main thing this season has taught me is that I’ll take ordinary bad over historically bad any day of the week. Watching this team not score runs at a historic pace has been excruciating.
Can we trade JLo this winter?
And Figgins with him. Two rosin bags and a box of bats will do in return
by New England Fan on Sep 20, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
But Figgins has been
showing signs lately that he might have played baseball when he was a kid (batting .353 in September) I hold out hope that with his help the mariners may finish the season with two players over .260 ba.
Lopez on the other hand is under team option for next year if i’m not mistaken…we will just let him go. I’m sure someone could use a 2b/3b at the AAA level. But maybe we should sign him so we have someone to send the Rainers when we bring Ackley up?
Frye-lock and I'm on top rock you like a cop
I am pretty tired of the old "We'll trade him for (piece of equipment) and (concession stand item)" type joke.
It is cliche now. Not targeting you, as it’s very common on these internets.
by Mariner John on Sep 20, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, it's older than that
Even in my youth we joked about doing that (and I’m in the 60+ category). A couple of years ago, in the independent leagues, a pitcher actually was traded for a box of bats.
by New England Fan on Sep 20, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
And the same pitcher lated OD'd on drugs and died.
What you make of that in a correlative/causative level is up to you
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Sep 20, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
We'd need to exercise his option to be able to trade him,
Those would be very expensive rosin bags and bats.
by eponymous_coward on Sep 20, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Watching any numbers of players get PT while Langerhans sits has been frustrating.
Langerhans obviously is a fairly decent player. A number of other Mariners aren’t, and outside of Tui, won’t be on the team next year (and Tui hasn’t proven that he belongs off of the Rainiers roster).
It’s nice that GMZ is progressive enough to realize Langerhans belongs on a MLB roster, but this is where I wish he’d do the BIlly Beane shtick of telling the manager he can play Langerhans as a regular, or he can go find work elsewhere.
by eponymous_coward on Sep 20, 2010 2:26 PM PDT reply actions
So where, exactly, should Langerhans have been playing?
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 20, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
1B over Kotchman, LF over Tui when Saunders was hurt
This is assuming Tui then gets PAs at 3B and/or 2B with the occasional appearances at LF or 1B against lefties who are especially tough on same handed hitters.
Langarhans has played 1B a total of 8 times while starting there only 3 game in his entire career.
I can see why they haven’t been in a rush to play him there. Any offensive advantage you’d hope to gain would be damaged by his lack of experience at playing 1B regularly. Especially when that “upgrade” still results in really bad offense overall.
His best defensive value is in the outfield and those three spots are occupied by players who need to be playing there.
I don't think anyone believes that Langerhans is a starter on a contending M's team
But I would argue he’s a better option that Kotchman or Tui this year. Next year I think Langerhans is an ideal 4th OF who can play all 3 positions, pinch run, pinch hit, and play 1B if necessary. Teamed with Tui (RF, LF, 1B, 3B, 2B) and someone like Josh Wilson (2B, SS, 3B) and a back-up catcher, the M’s would actually have a decent bench.
I doubt anyone is saying Langerhans is a 1B solution.
Just that it would be nice to see what his bat can do with more playing time.
Yeah, although bittersweet because, oh yeah, we never fucking play Langy.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions

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