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Choose Your Own OT OTDOD - 092010

In past OTs, we've usually had a top down format, where the poster would suggest some conversation starters and there would be the main brace of answers in the top level of threads. 

We've talked about changing formats before, and I have to say I like the idea, so I'll give it the old college try.

This is a CYOO, so BYOT(opic). Keep an eye out on the threads below, where I'll post a few comments with topics, and we'll see how it goes. Find a topic you like, or if you don't like any of the ones currently up, post your own.

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TOPIC - Do you think you'll like this format?

What do you anticipate going well? Going badly? Should I have never even tried?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 9:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I wanted to skip ahead for more options but then I realized it hadn't gotten there yet!

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you keep your thumb on the screen, it doesn't count as picking that thread.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

At which time we will discover The Terrible Secret of Space.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

And possibly get pushed down the stairs by robots. I don't know.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

DO YOU HAVE STAIRS IN YOUR HOUSE?

Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Career .384 BA, .543 OBP for Rocky Diablos

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 20, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

noo, you cannot come here go away robot, you are scaring me

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I am here to protect you!

Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Career .384 BA, .543 OBP for Rocky Diablos

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 20, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it might need to get posted a little earlier so whoever can preload better.

That, and I’m running out of shit.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love this format.

I think it’ll lead to much more organic and free-flowing conversation than the “filling out a survey” approach that we often take. As long as the OFFTOP author goes ahead and includes some topic prompts in the comments as you did, I think it’s a much better approach.

by Chris Hafner on Sep 20, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

TOPIC - Animals

Since everyone but me likes animals, what do you all have? Do you talk to them like humans, babies, or animals?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

I have a kitty.

He’s a gigantic five year old tuxedo cat. His attitude is even bigger than his 17 pounds (he’s not fat…just fucking huge), as he pretty much rules the house. My wife and I sort of live in fear of him, but he has his moments when he’s being really sweet.

I have a tendency to baby-talk to him. I’m sure that’s why he seems so angry all the time.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 20, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I, too, have a kitty.

Her name’s Charlie. Not quite tuxedo though, she’s a little too white for that. I talk to her like I would talk to anyone, or anything, I suppose. My mother talks to her cat like a baby and it drives me nuts after a while. She does the same with my cat. She calls her “Charlie-kins” and the first time she did it, I was like ARGH and each subsequent time she’s done it with out fail I’ve been like ARGH.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have partial custody of two scottish terriers

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 20, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, people I guess.

Someone’s cat might possible sometimes get sung to, but that could just be an ugly rumor.

by msb on Sep 20, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have 2.5 dogs.

Two lab mixes and a Chihuahua/Maltese mix (hence the .5). And I talk to them like I talk to my kids, meaning I am constantly asking my dogs what they were thinking when they do something stupid.

Because we’re rebels. Accurate, intelligent, introspective rebels. And damn proud of it my friend. - CapSea

by JLProck on Sep 20, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Scruffy's really getting into this.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which

nice blog entry by Wil Wheaton on getting dog family members from the Humane Society.

by msb on Sep 21, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't stand breeders

I would prefer to go through a rescue or the humane society every single time.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

My ex went through one a couple years ago

and we ended up with a puppy with a rare genetic disorder and had to put him down when he was only about 6 months old. That was incredibly hard and painful and honestly something that probably happened because of the inbreeding done by breeders.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOPIC - Organization

What do you do, if anything, to get yourself more organized?

I myself have really struggled with this as of late, and have tried out quite a few options. After a few days of playing around, I think I’ve settled on a organizer called pocketmod. It allows you to create little booklets that you can write on, customized with the data and items that you would want to keep track of. It’s been pretty easy to get started on, especially as a person that has trouble with organizing anything bigger than my desk at home.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I usually dedicate about an hour on Wednesdays to organize my work.

I find that it’s usually the only way I can prevent my work desk from overflowing with unresolved and misplaced items. Wednesdays work the best because it allows me to prioritize and get things cleaned up before the weekend.

At home I tend to be a bit anal retentive about organization, so I usually organize as I go.

by ThomasG on Sep 20, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

TOPIC - Do you trust people that offer to help you?

I was walking into Five Guys last night on my way into work to get dinner, and held the door for a lady, who just stood there waiting for me to not help her. After a couple of awkward seconds, she practically sprinted past me and spent the entire time in line looking over her shoulder. It’s enough to make me not want to do nice things for people.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

No, too early in the day for that.

You need darkness to hide those sorts of things.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently you haven't hung out with me enough.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 21, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The answer is I am too obstinate to accept help.

Although I had a similar encounter recently at a bar where a girl, not looking where she was going, bumped into me and then looked at mes as though I were the biggest asshole in the room as I apologized. That kind of made me want to not be around people.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

This happened to me Saturday.

I was standing at the bar ordering a drink when this gal bumped into me, then yelled at me telling me to watch where I was going. I would normally apologize in this type of situation,even if it wasn’t my fault, but she was such a bitch that I gave her a cold stare and walked away.

by ToddK on Sep 20, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Per the social contract

if she does not want your help in that situation, she is obliged to nod slightly in your direction and give you the “after you” hand gesture

by G_ on Sep 20, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was the worst part, she kept twitching like she was going to go.

Like the assholes at stop signs that keep lurching when you know it’s your turn.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Door etiquette is odd.

I am an inveterate door holder (it was deeply ingrained during my teens when my mom was sick) and the reactions you get are varied— people who can’t bear that you are holding it and motion you to go first instead, those who actually take the door away from you, those who sail through as if entitled, those who go in but are startled that someone should do such a thing …

by msb on Sep 20, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always thank people when they hold a door open.

As someone who delivered large boxes in my younger days it means a lot when people offer that courtesy.

by Sec 108 on Sep 20, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always thank them too.

Though it doesn’t really bother me if people don’t thank me when I hold the door for them.

by ToddK on Sep 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

The hesitation thing has happened a few times to the point where it was awkward, so the last time I complimented her shoes.

I read in Cosmo that when men compliment a womans shoes they often assume he’s gay, so I figured it would disarm the situation.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   8 recs

It didn't work, I'm not sure why women react that way

Do they find something about the situation threatening?

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, why would I assume if she thought I was gay she would also find me non-threatening?

Media stereotypes? That whole situation led to a decent size cascade of thoughts with very few answers.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some do interpret that way.

I had this conversation walking down the street with two girls I know, one who grew up in a Cuban family and the other in a more or less “American” one. The “American” girl said basically that there’s no reason in this day and age a woman can’t open the door herself. The Cuban one said that she was used to all the old school stuff like holding doors open and pulling chairs out and thought that it indicated that the fellow really cared.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

If a fellow opens the door, that is polite of him, but I am not going to stand and wait for him to do it.

whoever gets there first can hold it open— the giving up of seats is another thing, along those lines. Age, not sex should trigger the ’would you like a seat?" question. Unless the woman is vastly pregnant or on crutches, of course. Common sense.

by msb on Sep 20, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I get there first, I hold the door for anyone that's close by, but usually go in ahead of them.

If they’re leaving as I am arriving, I let them go first. And I’ll go out of my way to hold a door for a person with armloads of crap, a wheelchair, crutches or old age feebleness.

by wazzu93 on Sep 20, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I was about 12, I didn't open a door for my mom at the mall.

She went into a Brooklyn-style rant for about 10 minutes about how I was disrespectful and that I should always open doors for her. I now open the door for my mom, wife, and just about every other woman. I purposely get to the door first so it isn’t an awkward moment. I treat it like saying “bless you” after a sneeze – it’s not necessary, but it is the polite thing to do.

by Jed MC on Sep 21, 2010 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get that

I’ve noticed an age/power thing too. For instance, if I’m holding open a door for my family to go inside and my father comes up behind me, it’s assumed that I’ll let go of the door, walk in, and let him hold it for the rest of the time

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Soliciting heLLp

So, one of my good friends is turning thirty this week. I haven’t really had much of an opportunity to hang out with her of late because she’s in law school and I was taking classes over the summer and endeavoring to maintain sanity, but she’s cool [for a National League fan] and one of my favorite people to drink with.

One of the things she asked people to bring was drinks/snacks. I also know her to be a big Pinot Noir fan and figure a bottle (or two) of that would go over all right. My issue is that aside from knowing how my own tastes in red lean (Syrah/Malbec/heavier stuff), I don’t really know what wines are known as good as I usually don’t purchase them on my own.

So, any suggestions from the crowd as to what Pinot Noir is reasonably good and might be available? I don’t think it has to be too excellent because after a certain point we’re all going to be trashed, but the thought certainly counts.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

As I don't buy wine that often, I'm unfamiliar with price ranges.

Would ~$25 get me something good?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

You can usually get a very good bottle for $25 or under. As with a lot of things, once you start paying more than that, you might be paying for a difference that will matter little to you.

I rarely drink wine anymore, so I cannot recommend specific Pinot Noir, but in the past when faced with choosing a wine among unfamiliar labels, I usually did pretty well going by the little tags promoting the Wine Spectator rating — 85 is considered very good. Also, from what I remember, Washington and Oregon are good regions for Pinots.

by G_ on Sep 20, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oregon has some awesome pinots and they can be had for fairly reasonable cost

Have you ever been to Best Cellars? They’re at 2246 Broadway, and all their wines are less than $20. It’s an awesome store, there used to be one in Seattle but it’s long gone.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be a slight hike, but not something I'd be averse to.

I used to live around there so it might be kind of nice to see the old neighborhood.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I think the Syncline Pinot Noir is really good in that general range. Oregon Pinots can be expensive-ish, but there are some good values – Spindrift cellars, Owen Roe’s Sharecropper Pinot are two.
Really good stuff from NZ, but I know that much less well. People go crazy for Pyramid Valley’s Calvert vineyard Pinot, but I’ve yet to try it.

by marc w on Sep 20, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOPIC -- Seattle restaurant suggestions

The wife and I have an upcoming rare night out without the kids and would like to try some place different than our regular places. Do you have a good suggestion for a date night restaurant? The limitations are:

1. within Seattle city limits, preferably more north than south (due to time constraints)

2. budget is $75-$100 plus tip for both of us (assume one drink each)

3. no sushi or other asian (we eat this often, so we are looking for something different), Mexican/Southwest (same), or tapas (not a fan).

Thanks.

by G_ on Sep 20, 2010 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

More north, you say?

Maple Leaf Grill, perhaps?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

no

we live north of downtown but south of the ship canal. It just would take a lot of time to get to a place in Seward Park or far into West Seattle.

by G_ on Sep 20, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

On 12th Ave on capitol Hill are some good choices.

Northern Italian food at La Spiga.
The Local Vine had to move out of Belltown and relocated across the street.

I enjoy the food at both places. Both have published menus too so you can see if they fit your price and tastes.

by Sec 108 on Sep 20, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have always liked

Machiavelli. It’s also less than your budget, so that’s a good thing.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Second on Machiavelli's.

RC showed it to me, and I’ve stolen it and made it my date night place. Lots to do in the immediate neighborhood as well.

by Eyebrows on Sep 20, 2010 10:55 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or, more northerly

I’ve never had dinner there, but the Wild Mountain Cafe has the best breakfasts in the city and I’ve heard the lunches/dinners are just as good.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's been a while since I've eaten there, but

I really liked Rays Boathouse. It’s a good place to take people who are visiting Seattle, too. But Urban Spoon has lots of good ideas, so look through that.

by Decatur on Sep 20, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bizarro Italian Cafe in Wallingford is nice, but now I'm reading it's under new management

I haven’t been there in a year so maybe if someone knows anything about it recently they could chime in. There’s a bar right next door, Blue Star Cafe and Pub. Decent selection of beer if you have to wait for a table at the Bizarros, I’m thinking they do have a full bar as well.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's been owned by Andy Bray (and the other fellow whose name I can't recall) for the last 3 years

They both used to host/wait tables before that … Andy’s the one with the Oz accent. It feels/tastes just the same as it did before :)

I am happy to recommend it as well

by msb on Sep 20, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet! This is excellent news, when some place enjoyable changes ownership a change in ambiance is always a worry.

Still Life on University Ave was another one that came to mind, when the original owners left some years ago. Worked out fine

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rosebud in Capitol Hill was a great place.

it’s a little casual though and not that expensive, but still a legit date night restaurant.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Sep 21, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just ordered Showtime just so I could watch Dexter.

I hope the rest of what Showtime has to offer isn’t bad. Isn’t there a new season of Weeds coming up now too?

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 20, 2010 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

They shot some scenes for the new season of Californication

at the Police Station on Culver Blvd!

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 20, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have

to report a stolen bike. Detectives never did come and talk to me about it.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 20, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

What speech affectations bug the crap out of you?

I was at a wedding Saturday night, and the otherwise perfectly nice woman I sat next to (no, not my wife, the woman on the other side) ended every sentence she said wit the word “right?” like she was seeking affirmation for everything. I didn’t notice it at first but it rapidly became unbelievably annoying.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Going out of one's normal diction to put a foreign pronunciation on words

Every time Giadi de Laurentiis pronounces “spaghetti”, it makes me want to throw something at her. She’s not pronouncing it as much as she’s chewing on the word and it’s incredibly aggravating.

Similarly, there’s a guy I work with that feels the compulsion to refer to Patriots’ TE Aaron Hernandez as “Aaron Herrnandez” (i.e. rolling the R) despite not bothering to pronounce any other Latin American/Spanish name with the same regard for accuracy.

by ThomasG on Sep 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except you really shouldn't roll the R in Hernandez.

There’s a bit of a softening of the R in Spanish, but you only roll the “rr”.

by Eyebrows on Sep 20, 2010 11:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

For example: ferrocarril

Roll away on that one. But carne? Nope.

by Eyebrows on Sep 20, 2010 11:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I believe there is a bit of a trill, no?

Most of the native-Spanish people that I know pronounce a name like Hernandez or words like carne with a minor trill, though not as pronounced as, say, perro. Or, at least, in a harder manner than we would pronounce something like board or car.

by ThomasG on Sep 20, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

But that's the thing

you are not (presumably) a native Spanish person. (If you are, forget I said anything). There’s a trill in it because the native language puts it there, and if you don’t speak the native language it just sounds forced and over-the-top.

Think of it this way – do you pronounce German names with a German accent? French names with a French one? If not, why do it with Hispanic names?

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that is my single biggest linguistic pet peeve

Look, random TV person. I know you probably grew up in the Midwest somewhere, or in California. I know, in other words, that you’re not of Hispanic origin – I can see you there. You’re white. Not even tan – just white. So STOP OVERENUNCIATING FOREIGN WORDS. It’s OK to say “Hernandez” as “her-nan-dez” and not “air-non-dez”. Nobody will judge you. Stop it.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's like that episode of Friends where Ross takes up karate and insists on pronouncing it properly.

That episode is why I stick to the familiar anglicised pronunciation of things, even if I know better.

by Eyeball Kid on Sep 20, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nat-sees.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bon-jer-no.

Because we’re rebels. Accurate, intelligent, introspective rebels. And damn proud of it my friend. - CapSea

by JLProck on Sep 20, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That bit killed me in Inglorious Bastards.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 20, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

The build-up to it was just incredible.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I should watch that at some point.

I meant to, but then I forgot and forgot it existed.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a decent movie but not nearly as good as critics were making it out to be.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's got two really good set pieces and a whole lot of filler

It’s easily my least favorite Tarantino movie – it’s not bad, it’s just nowhere near up to his usual standards.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worse than Jackie Brown?

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 20, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually really liked Jackie Brown

It’s definitely a more consistent movie than Inglorious Basterds. It’s not that I thought IB was bad, as I said, it’s just very hit and miss.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

In its praise, it at least has watchable characters much of the time.

It just… meanders.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Less dynamic dialogue than Pulp Fiction by far.

But I thought it had several pieces that were every bit the equal for letting the actors go to work. Completely agree with the meandering comment.

Also Eli Roth as the Bear Jew was a horrible choice and he did a very poor job of fleshing out the character, the baseball bat scene was a distraction and took me right out of the movie as soon as he showed. Til Schweiger did so much more with just his presence alone.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was another character that got a similar treatment.

That one German soldier, who had basically defected, he had a presence and was trumped up as being a heroic figure, to the extent of basically getting his own baseball card, but then he didn’t do much after that. It was his high point. It may be just Tarantino playing bait and switch on his but I didn’t enjoy the effect.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That might be Til Scweiger, the guy that killed 20 Gestapo agents?

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS ALERT THIS IS A WARNING

If we’re talking about the same guy, he knocked that role out of the park. Had me anxious to see more of him and then pow, he’s done in the bar scene.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

Seems like the Tarantino thing to do.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been giving credit to him for getting that from the actors

So I tend to think of it as more an accident than by design, if that makes sense. The abilities of the actor transcend the scope of the character? I’m not a critic and lack the ability to formally flesh out this thought.

With something like Roth, I blame it on a bad casting choice.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that bar scene was awesome.

I was on pins and needles watching that, wondering what the hell was going to happen next

by d0nkey on Sep 20, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

SPOILERS ALERT SPOILERS ALERT

SPOILERS SPOILERS

When they kicked it off, it went down so fast I had no idea what he did or his fate until the second viewing.

The entire scene between the British officer and the Gestapo guy was brilliant. Exactly what I’m talking about with what I enjoy about Tarantino movies. Letting actors do the work, long shots that draw you right into the nuance of their facial ticks and what not. Really brings my focus to the scene. Just the dialogue and the actor.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Christoph Waltz was just really fucking good throughout.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ohhhhhh! That's a bingo!

Is that the way you say it? That’s a bingo?

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Just watched it again last night.

I also didn’t like the random moments where he starts narrating the scene. Or when they freeze the frame and put stupid graphics up to make sure that I notice a character introduction.. as if I was too stupid to pay attention or something.

by d0nkey on Sep 20, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just to chime in, I love Inglorious Basterds.

Maybe I’m in the minority, and in its entirety I agree that it sort of wanders of the beaten path, but I think it’s an excellent movie and I would have given it the oscar for Best Pic. Great characters, great dialogue, edge of your seat action, and you are really rooting for the good guys and not just because they’re fighting nazi’s. I could watch it 100 more times.

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 20, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's right in the middle of my movie tastes Venn, so I should probably see it.

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by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I pronounce things the way my linguistic upbringing taught me to

I wouldn’t expect a random Croatian or German to pronounce my name like they were a native unaccented English speaker, nor do they presumably expect me to do the same.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

This drives me crazy as well.

I was at a model UN event last fall (NERD) and the announcer chick overaccented every single country during roll coll. “Boats-wahhh-nahhh” was particularly grating.

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by Torrid on Sep 20, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

People who always cut you off and never let you finish your sentence.

My Mom is the oldest of eight and being around her entire family is annoying because people just cut each other off and talk over each other all the time. They have a saying that if you finished you sentence that means no one was listening. They find that amusing, but I find it tiring.

by Sec 108 on Sep 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Same thing with Chicago

You don’t get to use the hard vowels unless you live there.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

What if you're like me and somehow randomly picked that up until it is a normal part of the way you speak?

I can’t believe how often I am asked “where is your accent from?”. I am born and raised in Renton yet apparently I have a pretty noticeable accent mish-mash. I’ve worked with people from Chicago, New York, SoCal, Russia, Algeria, Mexico, and El Salvador. I picked up many of the nuances and the like from these people and somehow made it my own. It also doesn’t help that I’ve broken my jaw twice and now have limited movement of my lower jaw which adds a bit of a drawl to everything.

by tootthekazoo on Sep 20, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh, so that's where the drawl is from.

I don’t know that I would have guessed Renton.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's really weird

But I love getting asked where I’m from because the reaction from most people is disbelief because I have such a unique accent

by tootthekazoo on Sep 20, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

People that put on an accent. I knew a woman that had a mild to heavy British accent going on

So I asked her if she was British, she says no. So I ask her if she lived there for a considerable amount of time, she says no, she just visited. So I ask her how long, she says for six weeks 4 years past. She sounded a bit like Michael Caine, it was ridiculous and made me think she was unstable.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine in college did this

Washington-born, lived his whole life in the US, and then he went to Liverpool for six weeks and came back dropping his aitches and saying “innit” all the damn time. All his friends gave him 24/7 shit for it until he stopped doing it, but it still took almost three weeks.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some people do this - it's fascinating.

I saw this in a bar a few years back. A guy with a very british accent (though he was Dutch or something) was in a discussion with a few Americans. By the end of the night, one of Americans was basically speaking with some version of a British accent. The guy’s accent is so malleable, he subconsciously changed it to fit in with whoever he was talking to.

by marc w on Sep 20, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

My parents recently moved to an area called Estrella

Even after a few months, they still call it “Uh strell yuh”

That drives me insane

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I feel like some effort to preserve correct pronunciation is important, but don’t go over the top with it. If I say “Estrella” it definitely sounds Anglicized, even though I don’t spell out the double lls, but if I tried to really put a Hispanic accent on it it would sound ridiculous.

I think there’s a nice middle ground somewhere where you’re not totally butchering the word but you’re not faking an accent either

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like the correct way for a white person to say it is

“Eh stray yuh”
 
where the Latino pronunciation would be

“Ay stray yah”

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there are lots of black people in LA.

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by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reading/sight-based joke!

What do women and cows have in common?

                               W

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by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I thought that joke was the greatest in 3rd grade.

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by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

My mom thinks she's good at Spanish

and she pronounces Jalapeño “HIGH-uh-PEEN-yo”. I once explained to her that only double Ls are pronounced like Ys, and she said “Oh, I guess you’re right,” and pronounced it correctly for about a week before going back to the way that she somehow thinks is right even though no one else in the entire world has ever pronounced it that way.

by RunningFool on Sep 20, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Row di oh drive

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by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That one seems OK to me for some reason

Rodeo has been in the English lexicon for long enough that it’s fine to completely anglicize the pronunciation

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

My ex would say it this way intentionally

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by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

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by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holla-peenyo

That’s right, I said it.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 20, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have several customers that do this.

And I really don’t get it. Is it just a nervous habit or do they really think everything is that funny?

by ToddK on Sep 20, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I used to sell cars I bet a coworker $20 that he couldn't do an entire sales pitch and end every sentence with "yeah?"

He took the bet, and the next customer that came in was Vietnamese and didn’t speak much English. By the end of the sales pitch (done in the showroom for maximum effect), the customer was also saying “yeah!” after every sentence, which was amazing.
“It’s a great car, yeah?”
“Yeah I really like it yeah!”

This went on for nearly 45 minutes and was amazing

by tootthekazoo on Sep 20, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Pffft, yeah right

We’d have all kinds of weird bets and spiff bonuses go on around that place. My favorite? Get a customer to climb into the trunk and the manager would pay a $50 bonus

by tootthekazoo on Sep 20, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I scored that one twice myself

Surprisingly, it’s kinda tough to convince somebody to do that. Managers paid a bonus for it because it shows you have total control of your customer

by tootthekazoo on Sep 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should cater to mobsters.

“After you wack some schmuck, ya needs an automobile that has plenty of trunk space. Just look at how many stiffs you can transport!”

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by JAH on Sep 20, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, I got to keep it all to myself

It’s all about picking the right kind of customer for the job. Get them smiling and having fun and they’ll do anything you ask them to, which is kind of weird. Easiest thing though was to demonstrate how the trunk’s interior safety release worked. They’d climb in, you close it, and then they open it by pulling the glow-in-the-dark handle

by tootthekazoo on Sep 20, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Constant use of any word is about the same in my book.

Like using “y’know” or “dude” in practically every sentence. Though your particular example is more offensive, it still shows the same lack of real thought going into the conversation.

by ToddK on Sep 20, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I first got to Wyoming I had to take a public speaking course

The instructor (a graduate student) finished about 80% of her sentences with the word “Yes” and then would use it as a nervous twitch- if there were a period of awkward silence she’d just say “Yes.” The record was four times in a row

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a teacher in high school that ended each sentence with the word here and sometimes put in the middle of sentences.

The record for him in one 50 minute class was 145 times. Insane.

Also, he was an English teacher.

by Kirk on Sep 20, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the bright side it is easy to pay attention in those classes

I’ve had two profs now with really annoying verbal ticks, and keeping a tally of how many times they say whatever word is a good way to stay focused

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a Science teacher use the word deal to talk about something

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by Marinerfanjake on Sep 20, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a teacher in high school use the word "brilliant" as a segue.

I recorded it for a while and I think she was up to eight uses of the word per hour.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 20, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did she later go into marketing?

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by JAH on Sep 20, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

XC coach in HS

ended most sentences with “All right?” Only it was closer to “Aiight?” I once counted his aiights, and it was somewhere in the 50s for a 5-10 minute speech.

by RunningFool on Sep 20, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Like", has come to bother me more than it used to.

I counted thirteen in a single “sentence” from one of the freshmen last year.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ending every couple sentences with "you know?"

This is incredibly prevalent, at least among people I talk to.

You! Cake or death?

by Torrid on Sep 20, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been known to stop people in the middle of groups and berate them for using chatspeak vocally.

I’ve come to accept most of the retarded shit that comes out of people’s mouths, but this is the one last line that I will hold before I leave this so-called civilization completely and go live in the woods with a typewriter.

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by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats the absolute worst.

And at this point, chatspeak in texting is annoying to me as well. If you have a full keyboard(which I would say a vast majority of people do now) theres really no need.

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by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

That they do.

Sometimes they aren’t being ironic about it, but even when they are it can still be annoying.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

EL OH EL is the biggest offender.

But I’ve heard people that say that also do things like vocalize “your” as “ur”, like urgh.

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by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good lord.

If you’re using “LOL”, shouldn’t they actually be laughing out loud, not saying “el oh el”?

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 21, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

For those who care, today is the Mariners final day off of 2010.

From here on out it is 13 more days of games and we can kiss this shitty season goodbye.

by Sec 108 on Sep 20, 2010 11:27 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Thirteen more opportunities to fuck this up.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

WILL GMZ SURVIVE? WHO WILL OUR NEXT MANAGER BE?

WILL HE BAT LOAFIE 4TH IN THE LINE UP? WILL LOAFIE EVEN BE HERE? TUNE IN CITIZENS! OFTEN!

It’s the endless cliff hanger until opening day.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What nearly dead reliever can we sign as a NRI that ends up making the club?

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's the ultimate Mariner

Always with the albatross hanging around his neck til the end of his days.

So I was thinking the other day (always dangerous HA HA), that he might have a legitimate beef if the Mariners fuck this situation up. If they handle this incorrectly, they could possibly be construed as preventing him from earning a living. This would be a crime? I’m not sure.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alienating both him, and the women's rights groups, and most of baseball, and their GM....

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too many rookies for this to work out with Lou

He’d have a chronic conniption fit with the press bitching about not having any veterans

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know, I always try to talk other into doing it for me.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bonus: director's commentary!

Most of which would probably just be “LAUGH, YOU DONGS”

Also, I think the director’s commentary was Robert’s idea and I don’t know how I feel about that.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

We'll have to bring back Lou and Griffey at the same time and maybe talk Randy out of retirement.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy crap, a 90s baby.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
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by joof on Sep 20, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the first 10 million

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by Marinerfanjake on Sep 20, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well they're are 6.6 billion humans

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by Marinerfanjake on Sep 21, 2010 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

"They're are"?

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

In my defence I was barely awake.

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by Marinerfanjake on Sep 21, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

We come again!

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by JLProck on Sep 20, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody looking even remotely forward to the new network TV shows this fall?

Nothing looks really that compelling. I will probably give Hawaii Five-O a shot because Boomer is in it, Jin is in it, and the bad guy is Spike (not, sadly, as a vampire), but I really don’t expect it to be much more than a standard cop show that I’ll watch twice and be bored by.

Other than that, not much on the network slate really looks interesting in the slightest.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm going to watch THE EVENT

just for the lulz and maybe Hawaii 5-0. I’m looking forward to the return of the Good Guys.

I’ve liked the first two episodes of Terriers so far.

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by bluemax on Sep 20, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can just imagine the pitch meeting for THE EVENT

“It’s like Lost, Flash Forward, Heroes, and…lessee….uh….it’ll be awesome!”

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm going to give "The Event" a shot, because I need my Lost itch scratched.

It’ll probably suck nuts, though.

I guess I didn’t realize that James Marsters is in Hawaii Five-O. That right there is an instant watch for me. Again, it’ll probably suck, but Spike and Jin! Woo!

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 20, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize Spike was in it until just now

and it took Hawaii Five-0 from “maybe” to “why not?” even though it’ll probably be bad.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was shockingly impressed with the trailer for Hawaii 5-0 but I doubt I'll be adding a network show to my list of shows I must watch right now.

As far as the Event, I’m surprised networks are hellbent on recapturing Lost. I mean, I get what Lost meant to television and how good it was.. hello… JJ ABRAMS! There’s your formula. Thats why it was good. How bad does Persons Unknown need to be before networks realize they need good writers?

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 20, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm the opposite of ThomasG in that aspect

I will start watching a show, think it sucks, and stop watching after two or three episodes, only to find out three years later that I gave up on what turned out to be a really good show. So then I watch it on DVD.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm the worst kind of television viewer, at least in the eyes of network executives.

I very rarely ever watch new shows until they’ve shown that they can maintain some kind of lasting power, usually around the second season or so. (I’ll go back to watch the first season first, though.) There’s nothing I hate more when it comes to TV shows then getting heavily invested in one, only to have the network decide to cancel it without resolution. Still pisses me off to this day that The Riches wasn’t given a proper ending.

by ThomasG on Sep 20, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's exactly why I avoided Lost

because I thought it would be canceled. Then it didn’t get canceled but I thought it would end terribly so I didn’t watch.

Also I tend to forget when shows are on and forget to program my DVR.

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by bluemax on Sep 20, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't get into Lost until mid-third season for that reason alone.

Well, that, and I thought the first two episodes were shit (echoing pdb above). Credit goes to the wifey for sticking with it, despite my chronic nagging and complaining to watch something else.

by ThomasG on Sep 20, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only watch shows on USA, really.

I think that most of what NBC turns out is shit, at least half of what fox does is shit, and ABC minus Lost is shit. Of the major TV networks, I’m most in favor of CBS, but I never watch it.

not much on the network slate really looks interesting in the slightest.

It hasn’t for a couple years now…

M's fan in PA, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Sep 20, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, I was interested in seeing that.

Then I watched a couple episodes and put it to rest.

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by perfectstrat on Sep 20, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was unbelievably awful

I watched the whole season just because it was one of those so-bad-it’s-funny things. Bad writing, wooden acting (Joseph Fiennes has no business playing a dramatic lead) and plot twists completely out of nowhere that never impacted anything at all. It was, in a certain sense, gold.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you watch Invasion?

The premise, cast, and first few episodes were solid, then it started to go flat, but earned a full season pickup, so I stuck around for the back half. It got mostly back on track by the end, but the ratings collapsed.

by G_ on Sep 20, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't, no

I’m really not much for shows like that, but my wife likes them occasionally, which is why started watching FlashForward. She kept hoping it would get better, and I was actively rooting for it to get worse so it would be interesting.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife got into Lost but usually sticks to reality competition shows

I will watch Amazing Race, Top Chef, and Survivor with her, and I can tolerate being in the same room when American Idol is on, but that is about it.

by G_ on Sep 20, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I detest reality competition shows and reality shows in general

but my wife loves them, so I throw her the occasional TV bone and watch something else she’s interested in like FlashForward so she can’t say “you never watch anything I like!” This approach also got me to watch Chuck, though, so it works out most of the time.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

the drawing line for me is whether the competition is actually based on merit

On some shows, the winners and losers seem random, or chosen based on who the producers think will bring in better ratings. The ones that require some skills are more interesting. To win Top Chef, the person really has to be good. They edit it to play up the interpersonal conflicts, but the main driver is how the person performed, and the person who goes home or wins is usually deserving. The Amazing Race is similar — the team members not only have to a good balance of athleticism and smarts, but they also need a strong relationship in order to work together through stressful situations. Survivor is the one that is closer to the “reality” shows that turn me off, and I have only watched it off and on through the years. But again to win, the person has to be able to perform well physically and mentally. And unlike a lot of scripted shows, you can skip an episode or two of a competition show, and pick it right up away without the need for any backstory (other than “bald guy went home”).

by G_ on Sep 20, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

But.... Chuck.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 20, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Chuck charms the hell out of me, but it was always at its strongest when it’s arc’ing the shit out of the story.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 20, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

They pretty much admitted they fucked up.

The first half of season 3 was at times not fun to watch, mostly because they “will they won’t they” went from a bearable aspect of the show to the focal point. Also, Adam Baldwin was so, so underutilized last year and they must remedy that situation.

by Fuckmikereilly on Sep 20, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

They've been needing a primary, reacurring antagonist since season 2.

I was really glad with the developments with Agent Superman.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 20, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was exactly what made Bones completely unwatchable last season.

Well that and the avatar episode.

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by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll give most comedies 15 minutes

but usually no cop, lawyer, or doctor shows — maybe Hawaii 5-0 gets 15 minues only because, hey, it’s Hawaii and might have a Magnum PI vibe. I liked Arrested Development, so I am willing to give Running Wilde a try, but I have not heard good things.

by G_ on Sep 20, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's stopped being interesting, not that we'd ever know or not know.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Throw it all in there. Office cougar, long suffering IT guy

Bosses arguing technical details that everyone else pretend to understand around the water cooler but fuck up in various hilarious ways. I got dibs on the bike messenger guy that get to make the occasional appearance.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Needs more Scruffy.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

With lots of beer talk and random soccer conversations

Scruffy probably makes a better bike messenger guy, unless he’s the crazy guy with the corner office that randomly runs around shooting off fire extinguishers and blowing up peoples garbage cans

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched the first season of The IT Crowd Friday night.

I thought it was pretty good, if not predictable. I guess I just don’t see what’s so great about it? Anyone have an opinion, or maybe know what I’m missing? No one I know that has watched it has disliked it at all.

That being said, I’ll probably watch the rest over the next week to wrap it up.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I worked IT

I wanted Roy’s answering machine

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by bluemax on Sep 20, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a similar opinion to yours.

A lot of my friends back home are either in IT or technically savvy and there’s one of them who has tried to get me to watch that, along with various other things along that theme. I laughed a few times, but overall it’s just not my cup of tea and I can’t say I’d watch more unless they were on, I was in the room, and better options were lacking.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It also has President Logan's wife as the governor.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

H5O has gotten some ok reviews, mostly for Scott Caan

Lone star is another one getting surprisingly good notices; I’d written it pff as the latest Fox soap opera, but the reviews seem to think it is a bit more than that

by msb on Sep 20, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sad that The Undercovers and Running Wilde both look so awful.

JJ Abrams wanted to go back to something more Alias-style, but it looks not even remotely entertaining. The Event looks exactly like Flash Forward, which means I’ll watch for an episode and then realize it’s terrible. Nothing will ever fill the Lost void, but they’re going to keep trying.

by Fuckmikereilly on Sep 20, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

GASP!

we forgot the new Dancing with the stars!!!!!

by msb on Sep 20, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The series premiere of The Event was midly dissappointing

There were around 8 flashbacks going as far back to 11 months that took up 95% of the show. The previews showed basically the whole thing which made it relatively dull. Of course i’m going to watch the rest of the season before I fully judge it but all in all its got to cut back on the teasing a little.

…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell

by Marinerfanjake on Sep 20, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dont know

if the second episode isn’t better I’m bailing out. That first episode was amazingly bad.

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by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOPIC: I would like to say that I am now quite glad that Kyle Gibson or Aaron Crow did not fall to the Mariners with the 27th selection of the 2009 draft

however, I do wish one of them had fallen to #33.

What are some situations where things initially looked like they didn’t work out and in results-based hindsight, you can see that you really got lucky that it didn’t work the way you planned in the first place?

by seattlebruin on Sep 20, 2010 11:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Most of my adult life?

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by bluemax on Sep 20, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

My life from ages 16 to 23?

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Did they check to find out how many got their degrees while/after they finished playing?

by msb on Sep 20, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to find per capita graduation rates for the U.S. and striking out.

Googe searches keep coming up with income data. various forms of “college graduates united states per capita”

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read this really quick

And thought you were looking for a correlation between graduation rates and striking out in baseball. That would have been kind of awesome.

by ThomasG on Sep 20, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Tri-cities (Richland specifically) has the highest per capita of phd's.

But that just cause PNNL. And very unrelated. And now I will back out of the room.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

That one I knew, Hanford and all that.

Even the H.S. diploma level jobs over there are highly paid to comparative groups. Weird little community, has it’s own cycles. Its interesting to talk to people that have been on the inside of that. Tough here because it frequently runs into politics.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting to live in, I can tell you that.

We kinda break all the national averages in, everything. We can’t even get fucking weather right.

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by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

See!

We don’t even do desert right.

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by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dan Wilson did!

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really this doesn't surprise me at all

As mentioned, baseball players get drafted early, sometimes while still in high school. Since many of the players wouldn’t get into college on a scholarship or anything, they may as well enter the minors and hope for the best

by tootthekazoo on Sep 20, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that's still 1 in 30 who have degrees

that just seems really low for a bunch of people for whom a lot got to go to college for free

by seattlebruin on Sep 20, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I don't think there's any rule that says you can't attend school while you're in the minors right?

So if you get drafted out of high school, you should still have time to take some college classes in the fall right? I mean, sure, that doesn’t sound fun – but if I was a parent with a kid in the minors I’d remind him how unlikely it is for him to reach the majors.

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 20, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure professional baseball teams can't stop their players from attending college

can you imagine the public fallout from an organization prohibiting their players from attending learning institutions?

by seattlebruin on Sep 20, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find it crazy as fuck

that a guy like Kyle Parker or Russell Wilson can have their degree, be a professional base ball player and yet are still allowed to show up on Saturdays and play college football, while a guy like AJ Green can’t sell his jersey for a couple hundred bucks.

How is that fair?

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by bluemax on Sep 20, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean seriously, NCAA?

One thousand dollars for a jersey probably worth more than that on the open market is worth a four game suspension for a player with no prior disciplinary record?

From what I recall, the NCAA didn’t even offer him the chance to pay back the money to save his eligibility.

P.S. AJ Green is so good.

by seattlebruin on Sep 20, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah the NCAA is all kinds of fucked up and unfair

I hate all their hypocrisy.

It’s okay to make money playing another sport while being an amateur in another. It’s okay for the NCAA to make money off your image through jersey sales, poster sales, video game licensing etc, but you can’t make a dime off of it.

Look I get that athletes get paid in the sense of scholarships but the NCAA is still making a fuck ton off them. It’s just screwed.

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by bluemax on Sep 20, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also I like how the NCAA delete Reggie from the rule books

and every USC game so far this season has featured a Reggie Bush highlight reel.

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by bluemax on Sep 20, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some do.

But for the most part they have larger financial concerns that might discourage them from throwing money at classes.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOPIC: Is Minor League hockey the best thing ever?

Especially when you start chanting “Just the tip” Every time the Silvertips score?

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 20, 2010 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

It just may be, as we discussed this weekend

I love when the refs skate in and the entire arena boos them mercilessly, I love chanting “(visiting team) SUCKS!” in time with music, and I love that it is hockey

by tootthekazoo on Sep 20, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he's speaking more of the fan experience

Obviously the level of play is terrible compared to the NHL (and probably some NCAA teams, for that matter) but being there is a fun experience.

by tootthekazoo on Sep 20, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Braves are still on TBS on a nightly basis, keep an eye out for a possible Brandon Beachy start.

Beachy is a great story, undrafted in 2008, but of course another pitching find by the Braves. Didn’t start pitching until he got to college (Indiana Wesleyan) so that’s probably why for whatever reason nobody thought he was good enough to go in a 50-round draft. But he led the entire milb in ERA (for what its worth) among qualified pitchers with an excellent K/9 and K/BB ratio. If Jair Jurrjens can’t go tonight, Beachy is on standby.

Plus you can watch SOME team go for a playoff run.

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 20, 2010 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Or bigger!

The high end ones take up three slots.

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by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if MB manufacturers hadn't realized this and left space accordingly.

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by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same thing, but 9250s.

I keep up because I make machines for gamers still, but scores on cards have only gone up ~5% from a couple of years ago, it’s not worth the premium.

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by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly I just haven't found much of a reason to move away from my Core2Quad q6600 setup.

Same with the 8800GT cards, nothing has pushed the limits of the hardware setup I purchased four years ago.

by BrianL on Sep 20, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in the same boat..

If I get over 60fps I am happy. That’s all my eyes will let me see anyway.

I never bought into measuring my ePeen in frames per second..

by d0nkey on Sep 20, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Topic-

What is something that happened before you were born or when you were rather young that you wish you had been old enough to witness?

Mine would have to be Seinfeld. It started two years before I was born and ended when I was seven, so didn’t start watching it until ~5 or so years ago. And syndication is just not the same as watching the episodes when they’re new.

by Coach Owens on Sep 20, 2010 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

ZEPPLINS MOFOS!

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 20, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pointed out the zeppelin flying over UW stadium to some people waiting for the crosswalk

One woman looked up and says “I love hot air balloons” then went right back to her texting, it was a disappointing reaction to say the least.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I second this.

Less specifically, I wish I had been alive during the fall of the Soviet Union. What a fascinating and dramatic series of events!

You! Cake or death?

by Torrid on Sep 20, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

1950s America

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Damn straight.

When the world floods, you better believe I will be able to float my family and oxen down the river

by d0nkey on Sep 20, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

iPhone version isn't as fun

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by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm torn between living in the 50's or the moon landing.

Also seeing the Sonics with the Finals would have been pretty awesome

by bomdal on Sep 20, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

8 at the time of the Sonics win, sorry

I was two months old when the moon landing happened so all I remember is pooping in my diapers, which may or may not be related to the moon landing.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Actually seeing that would have made their leaving so much worse.

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by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and...

FUCK YOU NBA

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mt. St. Helens erupting.

Because we’re rebels. Accurate, intelligent, introspective rebels. And damn proud of it my friend. - CapSea

by JLProck on Sep 21, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

you're right though

but for an 11 year old watching from a highway overpass it was pretty impressive.

by pdb on Sep 21, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

My dad was bouncing me on his knee when St. Helens blew

He told me it startled him so bad he dropped me.. I blame the mountain for all of my problems.

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I missed it my seven months.

Not that I would have remembered had I been born eight months earlier, but I could have said I was there when it happened.

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by JLProck on Sep 22, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have always been very curious to know what is was like to live in the Northwest during Ted Bundy's reign of terror.

Or anywhere in the US really. I mean, my mom can tell me about it from her hanging out at Lake Sammamish, but I am curious as to how people really felt about going out and all that.

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 21, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think of it as a reign of terror ...

It wasn’t like today with the 24 hour media coverage, as well as the ingrained knowledge of serial killers and their methodology.

There had been a lot of disappearances that weren’t connected.. I think it was about a 6-month stretch where the police may have linked the killings/missing girls/near misses (they were across the state), but I don’t remember that the papers did. Then came the Sammammish abductions and the story (and description) of the guy with the cast asking for help loading things; it was after that the flyers went up, and tips came in. He went off to Utah (and then Florida), and I don’t really recall hearing about him much until after his capture.

by msb on Sep 21, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh.

The way my stepmom used to talk about it, it was like all of these things were readily known and publicly available, particularly the not helping load things into a van and all that, but she also said the she fit the profile of the girls hat were attacked and probably approached the whole thing with a heightened awareness.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn't until after the two girls disappeared at Sammamish, and the police put out a sketch-- there were so many witnesses that day.

I don’t think the police linked him then with the other killings, seems to me it was a couple of months later when they found the remains that there was a bone from an earlier killing that made them realize there might be more. I think then the papers were more full of it, and among girls there was that heightened awareness— were you this “Ted” guy’s type, be careful of someone asking you to help him, be careful of a Beetle … of course, it turned out later that he had already left for Utah.

Seems to me I heard that the Washington police finally arrived at Bundy as a suspect a year or so later, about the same time as his arrest in Utah

by msb on Sep 21, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting. I read a lot about Bundy when I was in high school but couldn't remember the details and also, I think living during that time would be the best way to know what the atmosphere was like.

Maybe more of a “Summer of Sam” type deal if you’re looking for reign of terror serial killers.

Honestly, in the time I’ve been old enough to care, I can only remember the beltway snipers and the Unibomber as being threats that people were constantly aware of. Of course the sniper was shortlived. I guess our own kids will wonder what 9/11 was like and you really would have had to live through it to know. I don’t recall much hulabaloo over The Green River killer but I always figured that Bundy was more high profile during his killings because of the type of person he was killing. Frankly, you can get away with it for a lot longer if you choose people that won’t be as missed, and pretty young girls are going to be “Protected Citizens #1”

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 21, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was a bit younger, but yes - the Green River Killer was a huge story

There were so many bodies. As msb pointed out, it wasn’t until later that people really understood how many Bundy killed.

by marc w on Sep 21, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he got away with it in Washington because they didn't think to link the UW & CWS students

by the time he got to Utah he was so much bolder and the police in both states (and the public) were then aware of what the mysterious killer may have done in Washington

by msb on Sep 21, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was some pretty shoddy police work in Washington too

Many, many people who knew him identified him as a suspect after the sketch came out and they didn’t seem to investigate him.

by marc w on Sep 21, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

They had no experience on how to handle a case like that.

I think they found later that all the specific ones actually pointing to Bundy were rec’d back after the Sammamish flyers went out, and had just gotten buried under all the tips and paperwork. And it was paperwork, no computers.

by msb on Sep 21, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how it compares to the DC sniper thing a while back.

I would think the sniper situation would be a hell of a lot worse, but maybe comparable to some degree

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Living in the DC area during that time and being 11 it was a really big deal.

It seemed like nobody was outside after 4 or 5 unless you were travelling. Kids were almost never allowed to play outside or wait for the bus without being in a car. There were a few days that school was cancelled in my area because of it, maybe a week.

by Kirk on Sep 22, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I vaguely remember a couple of summers where the parents would not let us out of their sight

We obviously didn’t fit the profile, but there seemed to be a lot of confusion at the time. Very fuzzy memories. From the perspective of a child, there was a lot of concern amongst the adults especially regarding women and travel to major cities. Highway stops, crowds, that type of thing. It has likely colored my decision making processes to this day in many of those situations.

by Kermit. on Sep 21, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you still get caffeine if you eat instant coffee?

I assume the answer is yes

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Okay goddamit Google

Why did you remove the ability to turn off search suggest when you implemented Google Instant? The only thing more annoying than Google Instant is those goddamn search suggestions and now I can’t turn them off.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

TOPIC: What annoys you the most?

I am simply blown away by how many people who barely know anything about history that it makes me want to beat them with a rubber chicken with a leadball in it.

…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell

by Marinerfanjake on Sep 20, 2010 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I might steal that word.

Imbecilic. Fun.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

God I love that..

Like this guy I know who claimed he was a 270 average bowler. Straight faced and all. Even after I explained to him that even the best professional bowlers hover around 220-230, and they are professionals. He still swore to god it was true.

I love the guy, but sheesh.. really?

by d0nkey on Sep 20, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was he Amish?

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 20, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Maybe he meant s two-70 average bowler.

Every time he goes bowling, he averages two games that score 70.

Toot, next time we have LL Bowling night, I challenge you to a game of closest score to 70.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 20, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet he's using a house ball, too.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 20, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually like that he claims to be good.. cause I actually average 200-205

so if he wants to prove it with some cash, I’ll welcome the challenge.

by d0nkey on Sep 20, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

So wait, where do you bowl?

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 20, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, okay.

I was hoping we’d have another Seattle-based bowler. I bowl/work at West Seattle Bowl… season’s off to a good start, I’m averaging 224 (ridiculous!). First week I didn’t have an open and shot 706.

I had to prebowl for tonight and shot 700 again, with 13 in a row in between two games, which I did not know was called a “Polish 300” until my boss brought it up.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 21, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

After I and my entire league bombed week 1 (only a single 600, and that included a 275 game!)

I came back strong for week 2 last Wednesday. Week 1 saw me finish with a 503 after a complete inability to do anything productive, and then I turn around and shoot 685 last week with a 236 and a 277 with a nice 172 and tons of splits thrown in the middle for good measure. I’m waiting for tomorrow’s games to get a better idea of where I stand, but the momentum is nice

by tootthekazoo on Sep 21, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and I'd also never heard the term "Polish 300"

I’ve done that plenty of times (16 over 2 games was my highest) but never thought to find out if there was a term for that, even though there is a term for everything in bowling

by tootthekazoo on Sep 21, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is pretty awesome, I will use that next time I get f'd out of a 300

I had a 290 in the first game, then I followed it up with 7 in a row on the next game. Sad part is I fucked up game 3 so bad I shot a 699.

If there is a bowLLing night down in Seattle sometime I would be down. Sounds like we got some good competition

by d0nkey on Sep 22, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Psshh, I average like 270, it's not that hard.

Oh, you mean per game, not per night.

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by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES

My friend and I used to love hearing the stories of the brilliant football career of one of our colleagues. We were all in our 20s at the time, so this wasn’t some ‘in 1958, we won the state champeenship’ thing.

Guy claimed that despite being able to throw a football 70 yards on the run “I used to sit on one knee at midfield and just throw ’em through the uprights,” that the pros were more interested in him as a wide receiver (he was a very stocky 5’10" or so). So interested that they believed college football was utterly unnecessary. What would be the point? Man among boys. Sadly, he hurt his knee a bit or you all would know the name of this amazing athlete who was about to revolutionize the NFL despite never playing in high school.

Sort of annoying, but we didn’t want him to stop. I wanted these stories to keep going – it was fascinating to see him dodge the little logical roadblocks we’d put in.

by marc w on Sep 21, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

"it was fascinating to see him dodge the little logical roadblocks we’d put in."

Well he probably had plenty of experience with agility drills and throwing off blocks and the like.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was a teacher at my middle school

who actually was an NFL prospect at one time but he had a botched knee surgery that ruined his career. I never had his class thankfully.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seen it.

Was at a party once where some dude was trying to convince everyone that Archimedes was the first person to determine the circumference of the earth. That was Eratosthenes and I tore him a new one over it. He’s yet to forgive me, but whatever, guy’s a douche.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, what a douche.

He sounds like the kind of guy that rounds pi to the hundredths place.

by ThomasG on Sep 20, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's a douche for other reasons.

Like being from Jersey.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flag'd

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by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you're not FROM Jersey.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are plenty of good people from Jersey.

It’s at least 2%.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, close to 2%.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, nevermind.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 20, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enough to make sure they don't get Sodom and Gomorrah'd

[NO RELIGION YOU FUCKING WRITER]

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was hilarious how belligerent I was getting over it.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, he was

 and I left with the girls that night, who did not respond to his overtures to crack open a bottle of wine at his place.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

We were really drunk?

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a whole bottle of wine and about five mint juleps by the end of the night.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 21, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Way too much drinking involved.

The night ended in karaoke of various early Rod Stewart and Ike and Tina Turner numbers.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because THAT'S a night of drinking right there.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 21, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the last time I was around that drunk

I was accosted by some homeless lady who ended up complaining because I “only” gave her $10.

That was probably the last time I gave money to anyone.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 21, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

You need to stop sleeping with random people.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 21, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is terrible.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 21, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish, but no.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 21, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Google has made this so much easier.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

The faulty assumption you made there is that I listen to the average sports fan

I don’t watch ESPN, I don’t listen to sports shout radio – I pretty much just watch the games and hang out here.

by pdb on Sep 20, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I commend your signal/noise filter.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 20, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nature programs in which the host feels the need to interject himself and speak over footage

instead of letting the true beauty of nature speak for itself. I’m watching this Secret Wilderness: Japan program on BBC and I want to strangle the host. You don’t have to tell me how wonderful the dance of the red-crowned crane is in your limited vocabulary; I can see it for myself, thank you, and would appreciate it if you’d shut the fuck up for long enough for me to enjoy it.

by ThomasG on Sep 20, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, men who wear girls skinny jeans.

A man should never wear something that tight

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by Marinerfanjake on Sep 20, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a joke gone bad.

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by Marinerfanjake on Sep 20, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Authorial inconsistancy.

I am reading a novel where the protagonist is obsessed with Jane Austen and has read and re-read the novels over and over. So when she suddenly finds herself in an 18th-century setting, apparently in anothers body, why should she be constantly surprised and startled by the ways & mores of the times?

by msb on Sep 20, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

YES YES YES YES

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obvlivious people. Take shopping for instance

Meandering down the center of the aisle, gazing blankly at the shelves. Fine, you don’t really know what you want, but move over so I can get around. Or at least listen when I ask you to please move, and sure as hell don’t say “you don’t have to yell” when I’ve raised my voice to your attention level threshold which is set someplace between punk band and rock crusher, you self centered ninny. There’s more people in the world than just you, nobody is asking you to sublimate yourself to the greater good but for fucks sake move over so that people that move at a rapid pace don’t have to trip all over you. Fuck.

by Kermit. on Sep 20, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

This goes for people in crowds as well.

I’m in college and have to walk all the way across campus in ten minutes. Cellphone people are the worst, IF YOU CANT WALK AND TALK ON YOUR CELLPHONE AT THE SAME TIME YOU SHOULDNT BE WALKING AT ALL.

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by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

This one annoys me to no end

Given the choice between advancing quickly with minimal exertion, and advancing slowly with no exertion at all, why would anyone choose the latter? Are you THAT damned lazy that you eagerly welcome a chance to stop walking for 15 seconds?

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hrm.. I am that damned lazy I guess.

If we wanted to take the stairs, we wouldn’t have invented the escalator

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The world is coming to this whether I like it or not

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The escalators don't bug me because after three knee surgeries, a chance to not walk up stairs is welcome.

It’s the moving walkways in airports. It’s not a place to sit with all your friends and talk about the flight, it’s where people that don’t feel like dodging carts and people go to get to their next fucking flight.

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by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a very scrawny guy, and I'm always in a big hurry

And I’ve never seen an escalator that was so narrow, or a person that was so large, that I couldn’t easily move past them if they were standing on one side of the escalator instead of directly in the center.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I just didn't pay enough attention to how wide they are.

Then again, I couldn’t care if the person behind me is in a big hurry. It saves you what, 10 whole seconds jogging up the escalator? Big deal, wait it out.

Same thing goes with aggressive drivers on the road. The amount of time you actually save by driving like an asshole is so small.. chill out and stop riding my ass

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would agree. But I am not. I drive 60-65 in the right hand lane

But, I am more talking about non-highway roads. I don’t give a shit if you (not you) feel obligated to drive 70 on a 35, I am not going to accomodate you (not you).

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that may be more of a rural road issue.

You couldn’t get up to 70 on a side street here.

by Sec 108 on Sep 21, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I exaggerated my point a bit. Anything 10mph over the speed limit on a rural road.

If you really don’t like me driving the speed limit, feel free to haul ass and pass me, I will move over a bit to make it safer. But I’m not going to take people riding my bumper, like that’s going to make me drive faster.

It will probably get me to slam on my brakes and get you to rear-end me if anything.

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's fair

If you’re on a rural two lane road and some asshat is tailgating you, that’s their own problem

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't care about the ones in malls or someplace like Safeco

but when you are in the airport or trying to catch a metro someplace else and there is no other way to get where you need to be in hurry? aggravating.

by msb on Sep 21, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It really depends on the situation

but sometimes, yeah, that does.

You have to ask whether the law itself is valid. People who blindly follow laws are assholes.

 If you’re on I-25 going into Denver where the speed limit drops to 55, you’re a total danger on the road going 55 because everybody else is going 75-80.

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again, no.

I am not going to get myself a speeding ticket to accomodate you. If you want to take the risk of driving faster than the poster speed limit, fine, but wait til there aren’t cars in your goddamn way.

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This would probably be a good time to end this conversation, and accompanying threads.

These never lead anywhere good, and nobody is going to change anyone else’s mind.

Just a suggestion.

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by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good call

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it's a rogue car or two, sure

If it’s everybody else on the road? You’re causing people to slam on their brakes, which will cause an accident.

Maybe that’s their fault, but majority rules

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not trying to change anyones minds with this topic.

I am also not trying to sound argumental, although it might look that way.

If I am minding my business in the “slow” lane, and you can’t see that coming ahead of time, it’s not my fault. I am simply following the posted rules.

If you want to speed, that’s fine. I’m not judging people for that. Just don’t try to force me into following the herd by riding my ass and creating an even worse situation.

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds like I'm suggesting you change your mind about this.

That wasn’t my point. I am speaking in general terms. I also can’t imagine how busy these roads are there people are regularly driving 20mph over the limit to where a few cars that want to drive the speed limit would impede traffic

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a major freeway going into a big city, so pretty damn congested- people not keeping up with the flow are doomed

I generally drive the speed limit, but if the flow of traffic is significantly faster, I go significantly faster. I’ll do whatever necessary to make my car blend in with the rest of traffic as much as possible, laws be damned.

I suppose the bigger problem comes when they aren’t in the right lane. If they’re hanging out over there, they’re mostly fine

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I have travelled to Wyoming several times from Seattle and I am familiar with the roads you speak of.

There really is no excuse to not spot the slow vehicles coming long before you get to them.

Now, if I am say driving 60 in this 55 and trying to pass someone going 55… I would be the asshole if I just darted out in front of all the people driving 80-85. Let’s make sure we understand that too. I’m not unreasonable.

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I absolutely agree with this from a driving standpoint

But I’ve never killed anyone by walking quickly.

Also, the some of the escalators downtown are dreadfully long, especially in the bus tunnel. It’s not 10 seconds, it can be a full minute of riding up an escalator that’s the equivalent of 50 or 60 stairs.

Yeah, it doesn’t make the biggest difference in the world, but it just feels like common courtesy to let people who are hurrying advance.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The escalator does the job for you

if you’re in that much of a hurry take the stairs.

by pdb on Sep 21, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is my biggest pet peeve at Denver International Airport

There are no stairs to get down to the trains you have to take to get to any terminal besides A, so you’re stuck standing on two flights of escalators waiting for people to start walking

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, sure, but like Corco said, there are quite a few instances where stairs aren't accessible.

The T subway stations always have a pair of stairs sandwiched between two escalators that are inevitable closed due to maintenance of some kind, making escalator use inevitable and unfortunate.

by ThomasG on Sep 21, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

God, like shopping at costco

Hey asshole! There are 38438 other people here trying to shop with you. Don’t be a douche and pay attention to what’s around you.

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Students over traditional age

They’re so annoying- they ask way too many irrelevant questions, distract the professor, never seem to understand the purpose of assignments, and have no clue how to study.

They then get bad grades despite putting way too much effort into class- they’re not only wasting their own time, but they’re wasting my time in class by constantly trying to drag people off onto tangents.

If you haven’t been in a classroom in 30 years, please for the love of God do us all a favor and take your classes online, especially if you’re only out to get your degree so you can say you got a degree

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

>:(

.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean way over traditional age

If you’re still in your 20s or even 30s, chances are you are still a productive student. It’s the ones in their mid 40s+ that are problematic

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still going to >:(

There are plenty of nontraditional students in my program of all backgrounds and I know plenty that fall outside your spectrum that are still solid students and perfectly delightful people.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're in a masters program though, right?

That’s an entirely different situation

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Nontraditional students, meaning they’ve taken a break of a year or more off from school, meaning we get an array of milvets, ballet dancers, figure skaters, heiresses, punks, former drug addicts, the recently institutionalized, former software engineers, etc etc etc.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

A disagreement.

Yeah, older people can be annoying in the classroom but plenty of regular college aged students are fucking retarded as all hell.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 20, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is very definitely true

I guess you just notice them more when they’re also really old.

Maybe I’ve just had really bad luck with them, but the rate seems to be about 9/10 students over 40 are really fucking annoying in my experiences, while maybe 1/20 under 40 are really fucking annoying

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

It may also be that I'm in an area where good computer knowledge is essential

and a lot of the older students just don’t have much of a computer-related background relative to the more normal aged students, which puts them at a huge disadvantage requiring them to ask questions that are either way off-point because they don’t understand or very obvious because they don’t understand.

Given that they’re in the extreme minority in those sorts of classes, they become more of a hindrance than maybe they would in other situations.

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never had this experience with older folks in my class.

They’re always the exact opposite, actually – very quiet and non-disruptive.

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by Torrid on Sep 21, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

My experiences have been aligned more with Corco's.

There’s always one person in every class that you hate when they open their mouths because of the stupid, noodle headed shit that would spew forth. It was just unfortunate that if there was an older undergrad, it was about 800% more likely it would be them.

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by JAH on Sep 21, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I made a horrible tactical decision recently in choosing a seat next to a SOTA, (it's a classroom I've been in before and I'd always sat in that spot) only to have the professor assign a project we were to do in groups of 2

I got assigned to work with the SOTA, so we divided the work in half, he assured me he knew what to do (it was a fairly simple task), and then when it was due he did his half the work, but he put way too much effort into doing something that had nothing at all to do with the assignment at hand. We got a 70% on the assignment because the professor had no idea how to grade it- half the assignment was fine but the other half was completely irrelevant but looked like a lot of work.

A couple semesters ago, we had a lunch lady in her 70s taking an Intro to GIS class, a class that requires considerable understanding of computers. She was a sink on the TA in lab since she’d never used a computer before. She was hilarious because she’d constantly yell “DAMN COMPUTERS!” and ended up failing the class because she was only on the 2nd of 12 lab assignments by the end. It’s like- look, I appreciate you’re trying to continue your education, but you’re not going to go be a GIS professional. Nobody is going to hire a lady in her 70s to even be an entry-level GIS Technician. Ageism shouldn’t happen, but it does, and it’s just not going to happen. Stop wasting everyone’s time.

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to say I completely disagree.

Most of the younger kids(me included) just screw around and don’t even attempt to actually learn anything or get good grades. The older people usually are working at the same time and work twice as hard to get their grades and I respect them immensely for that.

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by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's possibly the case in intro-level classes

But once you get into upper division courses it seems like the younger kids are usually pretty motivated- the folks who don’t give a shit have generally weeded themselves out by then

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can agree here.

Once you work your way up to real classes (no offence) you aren’t there to fuck around.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should note that the idiocy of the younger group may be due to the fact that we have a program that allows us to get college credit while finishing high school.

Tuition is payed by the highschool and I think this breeds laziness although for me it’s saving me two years of college tuition.

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by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can say that for those who take it seriously it is the best thing in the world.

Of course thats about 3% of the people. I’m on pace to have my AST in spring at 17. So I’m kinda happy.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, I just feel like it puts too much pressure on high school students

It, along with a ton of other things in high school (eg standardized tests), puts even more emphasis on getting a good grade rather than learning and encourages kids to burn themselves out by taking a full slate of AP/IB classes that at least in my experience didn’t even come close to matching real college courses.

The smartest kids then get to college burnt out- Princeton actually actively encourages kids to take a year off between high school and college just because they’re showing up at college with fried brains.

I certainly think advanced high school courses should be offered, but I’m hugely against getting college credit for it, especially when that credit counts as more than elective credit. I took both AP English (Comp and Lit) in high school and regular freshman English in college, and I’m sorry, the college freshman English was way more useful.

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not talking about AP classes.

We have a program that sends students to the local community college to take college courses and get high school credit for those classes they take, while getting the college credits as well. College tuition paid.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a bit better then

I wasn’t aware such courses existed. I’m still not sure if I’d go for that, but that is far better than an AP course

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't say it's a bad idea to take advantage of the system as it is today

Just that the system of taking high school classes for college credit is really fucked up and there has to be a better way to save people thousands of dollars.

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well part of the function of high school is keeping people busy.

By my junior year I had taken all the English, science and math classes that would count as normal high school classes. AP was all I had to fill the time.

by Sec 108 on Sep 21, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right, but you hadn't learned everything there is to learn ever

I bet you could have taken an easier course load your freshman and sophomore year, maybe took one fewer class and did some volunteer work or something, and been able to complete the sequence at least by the end of your junior year while still being challenged.

Then maybe you could have taken whatever foreign language you never took, or maybe they offer more advanced non-AP courses that give you college preparation by teaching your brain how to be a college student (which AP courses in my experience failed at miserably) without having to teach a class to a test.

I’m fully aware that that’s not how the system works, but that’s why I think it needs to be changed.

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is that we have objective evidence that students in high school are TOO busy

They’re showing up to college completely burnt out and unable to learn because they’re racking up unnecessary extracurriculars and taking every AP class there is in an attempt to save money. They’re not learning because they’re teaching themselves to the test, not actually learning the material.

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, are you implying that what's true for Corco isn't true for the whole of the nation?

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

But it is!

Please hold while I pull up studies

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Either way the AP class has to teach to the AP test while still meeting state/national standardized test requirements

There’s very little give in terms of content from school to school. Certainly a better teacher can make it a more valuable experience, but I don’t know that there’s an argument to be made that the focus in school at least for the last ten years has been on “Get good grades” not “Learn the material” and that grades have little correlation with learning.

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

"The AP class has to teach to the AP test"

I think this is the difference between a good AP teacher and a bad AP teacher. It’s the most common complaint about AP tests. I had three teachers who didn’t teach to the test at all, but were fantastic teachers and just taught the subject. By and large, their scores were better than most other AP teachers at our school (those who “taught to the test”).

by Fuckmikereilly on Sep 21, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Many of my teachers taught the course material extremely well, and I left with a much better understanding of the subject. Granted, it’s their job to get you to pass the test, so they have to teach at least somewhat to it, but there are really good teachers out there who allow you to learn a whole lot more on the subject.

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by perfectstrat on Sep 21, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think this really is a question of teaching quality.

Because it is possible to teach to the test, so to speak, but still teach a quality course. The types of essays on an AP history exam, for example, are useful to learn how to write even outside of the course, such as how to integrate primary source documents into a history paper. It’s just a matter of whether the teacher is teaching you how to write a primary source paper, of if he or she is teaching you how to write an AP DBQ. I got the former, but I suppose a lot of people get the latter.

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by Torrid on Sep 21, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

This happens in college too thow.

It is on the student to actually decide to learn.

by Sec 108 on Sep 21, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I took four years of French and never once felt challenged in high school.

I always completed my homework for the next day in class while the teacher hand held everyone else.

By the second semester of my senior year I had nothing left to take so I petitioned for half days so I could get a job to help me pay for college.

by Sec 108 on Sep 21, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

We should encourage that!

Work experience to me is far more valuable than classroom experience, even for college preparation (beyond just the monetary part) once you get beyond a certain point in high school

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Running Start.

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by JY on Sep 20, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Sep 20, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hated running start kids.

People who almost completely forsake regular high school classes and take community college courses for 2 whole years of high school, and get an AA.

Then enter college at age 18 claiming to be a “junior” while feeling super awesome, failing difficult college courses, and learning nothing about the social and personal aspects of life that early college normally teaches kids.

I’m all for getting a bit of college credit—I got out of 1 freshman English class and got 4 elective credits from taking AP tests. But cutting out half of someone’s college education because they spent a bunch of time sitting in some fucking simpleton psychology class at Highline Community College as a 15 year old is a recipe for constructing accredited 20 year old retards.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, let me qualify by saying that I know this is certainly not always the case

I just knew way too many of them when I went to university, and more of them flunked (or graduated and shouldn’t have) than I deem acceptable.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is so true.

Getting out of 3-4 hours of high school class per day, and replacing it with 1-2 hours a few times a week, is inviting all kinds of kids to Running Start for the wrong reason.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Running start is a terrible program

and I don’t know anyone who went through it that didn’t end up worse off

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by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

AP and College-credited high school classes for me.

Never took a Running Start course and still left high school with about 30 credits to my name.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this, only problem is the system helps me out financially.

Sure I may not have been getting the most out of it, but when it put me a semester ahead when I went to college, saving me thousands of dollars has helped a lot

by bomdal on Sep 20, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I'd rather see us spend the money that it costs administering that system on scholarships

Why not just pay for your Running Start tuition and board if at all possible after you graduate high school?The operation of programs like AP, IB, or Running Start are quite expensive. I’d rather see us give that money to students after graduation to pursue higher education.

 Maybe give more money to fewer students (ie those that are truly motivated and really need the financial help), since we all know that a lot of people in those classes are either in a high income bracket and can afford college anyway or alternatively don’t give a shit and are wasting the school’s money by taking classes that Mommy is making them take.

I just feel like that money could be allocated a lot more effectively.

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The quality of AP classes hugely varies

It’s just not remotely standardized. I had a fantastic AP English Lit class that stands up well to any intro-level humanities college class. However, I don’t think there is a high school in the country that has the proper resources to teach a college level science course. Even the most fantastic professor can’t make up for the lack of resources.

My college accepts 2 AP classes as elective credits. I believe this is about the perfect system. Though it may suck for people who took twelve AP classes, it rewards the extra effort in high school, and allows for a lighter schedule those times when you really need it. But it doesn’t allow you to skip all your requirements or graduate in two years.

Unfortunately, the financial drive is often just too great. It can literally save tens of thousands of dollars. That type of incentive should not be put on high school classes.

by Fuckmikereilly on Sep 21, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

An AP course isn't really any extra effort

It’s just an easy exam at the end of the year for college credit. You don’t even have to take the class if you don’t feel like it.

by Graham MacAree on Sep 21, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

AP Exams aren't too difficult if you're properly prepared.

The problem lies in shit teachers, specifically Economics. My Computer Science and Calculus teachers were excellent, and I easily aced both tests. However, my econ teacher was terrible, assigned no homework, and generally just read from the textbook without furthering anyone’s understanding of anything. So the entire class did miserably.

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by perfectstrat on Sep 21, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Graham grew up in a country with a real education system.

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by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he did, I feel sorry for him.

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by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

The British education system helped me not at all

by Graham MacAree on Sep 21, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

AP courses are harder than regular classes.

I suppose it might vary from school to school, and there are a few joke AP classes, but they’re certainly harder. Harder enough to justify the college credit? Absolutely not.

by Fuckmikereilly on Sep 21, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

The classes themselves to not equate to college credit

The official tests given are what determines credit. The tests are unaffiliated with public schools, a la SAT/ACT tests.

In addition, different schools require varying scores to give credit. My 5 on the English AP test was good enough for PLU, which required a score of 5. However, many other institutions would give credit for scores of 4, or even 3.

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by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm doing right now!

Not the advanced high school classes, but the gap year!

M's fan in PA, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Sep 21, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

LIFE STORIES

Sorry, fortysomething that realizes his degree in comparative lit won’t feed a family of four, but I don’t care how your personal “real-life” experiences relate to EVERY FUCKING SUBJECT the professor is trying to teach.

by ThomasG on Sep 21, 2010 5:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had a guy in his mid-20s in a lit class once...

and every damned thing we read turned into some anecdote about how he was in New Orleans doing relief work after Hurricane Katrina and….

but he was also a blowhard to the n-th degree.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Having gone to a second-tier commuter-dominated state school

I was subjected to quite a few SOTAs that felt the need to occupy a class’s time with inane “experience” stories. One class in particular (an intro to regional law history, not surprisingly) had dueling 40-something idiots that tried to one-up each other in inane conversation; one thought he was an expert in Massachusetts law because he took his neighbor to court over a boundary issue, the other thought that, by introducing ridiculous hypotheticals, he was “stimulating intense dialogue” (his words).

by ThomasG on Sep 21, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

My undergraduate courses all had pacts that we were never ever to volunteer information or speak longer than absolutely necessary in class

Three years later, people came in for grad school and I wanted to kill them whenever they spoke for more than ten seconds at a time.

by Graham MacAree on Sep 21, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the right way of doing things.

But one must also nod on occasion when a teacher is proposing something or else the lesson plan cannot proceed.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nodding isn't talking

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's communicating!

Sort of.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

This would be no small part of why Cambridge is a very, very good school

If people would just shut up we could learn so much more in class, thereby increasing our education. As it stands now, the biggest hindrance in the classroom is either A) A bad professor or B) One or two bad eggs that can’t shut up

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK, maybe that's a very small part

But I’d love to be routinely be in classes where that was the case

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right, but the extent to which you can minimize it separates the marginal from the good

A formal pact wherein you can’t talk if you’re going to be annoying is a huge step forward that should be mandated at all institutions.

Asking relevant questions= OK, to an extent
Ranting about Hurricane Katrina= not OK
Asking questions tangentially related to the topic= not OK

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have never seen that happen before in public

The general policy is usually to let them say what they have to say, look at them like they are completely insane, and then continue from where they left off. If they raise their hand (and they often don’t), the professor will generally conveniently forget to call on them except for maybe once a class period.

It may be a discrimination sort of thing and just not worth the hassle should the talkie decide their feelings are hurt and attempt to report the professor for being a douche.

That said, I really with that would happen more often.

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

We had a couple of

‘If you’d like to teach this class, come down here and talk. I’ll get a coffee.’

by Graham MacAree on Sep 21, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did anyone take them up?

There’s usually some dumbass that did so when I was in HS.

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by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

My lit professor (who was a real jackass) once told a constant disruptor

if he was so intent on teaching the class, he might want to work on getting his degree first.

It was one of the highlights of my college tenure.

by ThomasG on Sep 21, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The current pedagogical fad is to encourage a LOT of classroom discussion

To contrast with the old-school ‘sage on a stage’ model.
Students learn as much from each other as from the professor, don’t you know.

by marc w on Sep 21, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had professors tell students to stop talking and would not call on them.

Those students were told to write down their comments and speak with the professor after class if they had anything they wanted to discuss. I loved those professors because I didn’t pay good money to hear a student yammer about how whatever topic related to the holocaust.

by Jed MC on Sep 21, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly, it's about getting what you paid for.

In HS, who gives a shit, but once you are paying for your classes, people should shut the fuck up and learn something. Or let everyone else learn something.

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think on my Introduction to Macro Economics course I took as an elective, I wrote on the course review sheet,

“My classmates were too stupid and hindered my learning experience.” I was kind of a douche Freshman year apparently.

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by joof on Sep 21, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate to say this but I agree

Virtually every time I had an undergrad level class with someone who was older than 25 did they annoy the shit out of me and waste me time.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

And their damn rolly backpacks

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES

Although in middle school I had a friend who had one of these. He was ahead of the curve.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 21, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Must have been an old soul.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 21, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck that kid

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 22, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well done. I'm not sure what it is that bugs me so much

Maybe the “I’m so out of shape I don’t have the strength to carry a book” stigma, or the “I took 4,000 unnecessary pages of notes in my last class” stigma.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 22, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

There used to be this huuuuuuuuuuuge thing on the news

about how the weight of backpacks were going to cripple the youth of the country and if you didn’t make your kids use those stupid roller packs you were a failure as a parent. Good Morning America, 60 Minutes, and The Today Show covered the topic within days of each other.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I definitely remember that

A heavy backpack would throw any kid’s back out of alignment, herniate all their discs and relegate him or her to a lifetime of wheelchair-ridden spoon feedings.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 22, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

He had a lot of issues

I don’t know what became of him really after 9th grade, he went off to the new Chief Leschi and I only heard from him a few more times.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I took a server virtualization course a couple quarters ago.

There were six students over the age of forty. My God the time we wasted on pointless questions and discussions about how there used to be a spreadsheet of contacts in their office instead of this new-fangled Active Directory thing.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have you ever gotten rid of something only to regret it later?

In my case, it’s accidental: I can’t find the power adapter for my old DSL modem which I need again, and I’m kicking myself because I never get rid of tech equipment that I think I’ll use. The adapter must have been bundled in with some extra ethernet cables I donated to charity.

But, I figured this was a pretty decent question. Have you ever held onto something for a while, and then only needed it right after it was gone?

by Eyebrows on Sep 20, 2010 9:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Huh.

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/232831,us-hunters-shoot-down-google-fibre.aspx

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by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 7:38 AM PDT reply actions  

It's really not that hard to bring your own stuff to shoot

Dumbasses. It’s one thing to shoot a No Trespassing sign, but to shoot insulators and transformers and the like is just stupid

by tootthekazoo on Sep 21, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

New hipsterhitler up, not as good.

You’d think that it’d have taken longer to run out of Nazi puns.

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by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Does anybody know an easy way to make an extra $50-$100 a week or something?

I will accept funny answers but hopefully get some serious ones too. I am desperate for some extra cash and I have no problem looking for a part time job on the weekends, but any other ideas – something to do on the internet or something?

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 21, 2010 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I can also vouch for it, but I figure that in this economy they aren't looking much for part-timers.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you might be surprised. Corporate pizza joints seemed to enjoy being overstaffed the last time I worked that job.

I remember a dominos policy that we were to leave the store with only 1 delivery at a time. Sucked for us drivers cause you can’t make good tips that way, but we always had to have 8 drivers on the clock to keep up with it.

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck that man. Doubles are life.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

At LEAST take a double.

If you’re good, and you know your area well, triples are just fine.

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Triples were a rarity.

It’s something that drivers often wanted more than was warranted, but I could maneuver it pretty well.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Head to the local university, look up flyers, and whore yourself out to science.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 21, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've done it when I've need some extra scratch.

Sometimes there’s an age restriction though, or very specific criteria as to who they want for the testing. You probably wouldn’t be able to get $100 a week out of it, but $50 might be feasible. They compensate you for your time.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much.

That takes the legwork out of it too.

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I second this. There's a private company in the Tacoma area up here that does it, called Northwest Kinetics

You can make pretty decent money, either by doing weekend projects, or showing up for a few hours a week or whatever.

Over Spring Break in college I got $1500 doing a 10 day stay. Boring as hell, but pretty safe and I haven’t turned purple or anything yet.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just don't be afraid of needles

They had to draw a little blood once a day. But near the end, over 2 days they drew blood like 18 times, checking to see how quickly the 1 mg of drug they gave us metabolized.

Every test is different though. Apparently some are way simpler/easier.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

They still do it this way

Donating plasma sucks. I did it twice- you really do feel like shit for a while

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would guess that repair shops charge $60+ an hour.

So if you can beat that then I bet you would get the business. Might check other craigslist ads and just quote their price -$1

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Expenses" meaning "stuff I have to buy to make this work"

and “travel” should only be charged if it’s completely across town or a major inconvenience, and should be charged at half your hourly rate.

by pdb on Sep 21, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a Craigslist app on my phone that notifies me of new postings with certain keywords

I use it all the time for the labor, gigs, etc. kind of posts. Like PDB said above, there’s a surprising market for people who just want computers fixed, hedges clipped, or extras in workplace training videos.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like I mentioned below

buy a SATA/IDE-to-USB device and market yourself as a Data Recovery Specialist. Charge a flat-rate of say $80-$100 to pull pictures/music/documents off of corrupted drives. People are willing to pay absurd amounts of money to get that kind of stuff back and at $100 a pop you’re still making decent money but undercutting the professional services by a ton.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

How much do one of those devices cost?

I have a corrupted hard drive with a ton of music on it. I’d like to be able to recover that stuff without paying somebody.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 22, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aaaand purchased!

That seems really cheap for something that can do so much.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 22, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a freaking lifesaver.

That cheapo device has bailed me out so many times.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hold a car-wash.

It works. We did one for our softball team. A bunch of mid-twenty-something guys washing cars on a saturday and we made over $300 just off donations.

Slightly awkward, but it worked.

by d0nkey on Sep 21, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dump acid in your face and make a thing of it?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 21, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a psycho.

However I have “slipped” in 3 Wal-Marts today and spilled 3 cups of McDonalds coffee on myself.

by Kenneth Arthur on Sep 21, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is such a good idea

I can see the supply of Data Recovery Specialists in the Seattle area tripling because of this thread.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 22, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

You stay the fuck away from Snohomish County.

Seriously though, it’s been a great way for me to make some extra cash on the side.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Way out of my range anyway

I’m a South ender. I may need to start doing this.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 22, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Play up the fact that if you can't access the hard drive to grab information you won't charge them.

That way they know they’re not going to be out of cash for just handing the device over to you to look at. It becomes a much more appealing low-risk, relatively cheap gamble on their part at that point.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ahahahahahah
Planet Michael will also focus on global issues championed by the singer. Though those issues weren’t identified, they will apparently be central to the game.

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by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't stop watching this

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I repeat, I still cannot stop watching this

I will blame Robert if I get fired for watching this damn gif for 7 hours straight.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 21, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't see the picture, so it looks like this:

http://www.twitter.com/Helen_Keller

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 21, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aww that looks like a kitty I used to have

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are few animals for which I'd pay to have interbred

This is one of them.

If anybody cares, I know what I want for Christmas

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

First game at the Kingdome

Last game at the Kingdome
First game at Safeco
August 5, 2001

by pdb on Sep 21, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least 2 had to come from 1995

We’ll go with the tie breaker game in 1995 where Randy pitched out of the bullpen, 1995 ALCS game 5, 2001’s 116th win, something from 1997

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

/

10/2/1995 – California Angels one-game playoff

10/8/1995 – Less than a week later, facing the New York Yankees in a decisive Game 5 AL Divisional Series

10/6/2000 – Chicago White Sox/ALDS

9/19/2001 – clinching the Division pennant

by msb on Sep 21, 2010 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Those first two were in my golden age of fandom.

It really is what got the hooks into me to really root for the Mariners. I grew up watching all Seattle sports (ok, maybe not watching them all the time, rather listening to them because they were not on TV as much as they are now due to the blackout rules for the NFL and no real TV contract for the Mariners), but it wasn’t until ’95 that I was really hooked on watching the Mariners.

"How do you think my anus feels?"-House

by seattle_since_81 on Sep 21, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been dying to see a replay of the White Sox

We never get it on FSN since it was an ESPN broadcast. The rest of the ones I couldn’t really care less about.

by Robert on Sep 21, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anybody is bored

go get in a new Hyundai Elantra. Then get in a new Toyota Corolla. Then come back here and say that Hyundai hasn’t surpassed Toyota in quality.

I’ve rented these vehicles back-to-back- I had the Elantra a couple weeks ago and was really impressed, and today I picked up a Corolla and oh dear god I don’t get why people still think Toyotas are good

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

In related news, the Sonata just bumped the Altima aside as the #3 mid-size sedan in America

So it is now Camry, Accord, Sonata in the hierarchy of mid-size cars. Hyundai has been kicking ass all over the place and they deserve it, because they are pumping out some solid products right now

by tootthekazoo on Sep 21, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was really, really impressed by that Elantra

I would never buy one because I would never buy a foreign car, but I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend it to the majority of the population that considers country of corporate origin to be a non-factor.

This was a rental, so it didn’t have a lot of doo-dads on it, but was still pretty impressive. I had to pass a double trailered truck on a rural highway in Wyoming and was shocked to see my speedometer at 108 when I got around him- the car didn’t even feel like it was stressed at that speed- if I’d have guessed my speed I would have said 85 at the most.

The fit and finish of the interior are leagues ahead of anything else in that price range, including that Corolla (which, seriously? The quality of the interior reminds me of a 1998 Toyota Corolla, which was fine in 1998, but it’s 2010 now)- I mean the plastics are on par with some $30,000 cars I’ve been in of similar vintage.

The car drove really well- pretty much every other rental I’ve driven has had some minor issue from rental abuse (the Corolla I have at the moment, for instance, can’t go 20 MPH. If you go exactly 20, the transmission constantly shifts from 1st to 2nd to 1st to 2nd), but this car felt great. The brakes felt good, the car handled fantastically (then again, I usually drive a Jeep Liberty, so I may not be the best judge of handling)- I was just really, really impressed.

My only real complaint was a slightly mis-calibrated gas gauge- I was to return the car on empty (horrible deal, by the way- they tease you with cheaper than pump gas prices, but not enough that it actually saves you money unless you literally push it into the parking lot), and the gauge was definitely on E, but the low fuel light hadn’t come on yet so there had to have been at least a gallon or two left (that may be an intentional idiotproofing).

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the Camry gets bumped soon

If the Camry is anything like the Corolla, then the people buying them are very clearly just going straight to their local Toyota dealer and drinking the Kool-Aid without shopping anywhere else first.

My response to the Corolla is “Wow, Toyota is really just mailing it in now”

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by Corco on Sep 21, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Toyota and Honda are both like that

When I sold Mazdas, people said they were comparing to the Camry and Accord. From what I’ve heard from friends that have sold for Toyota and Honda, they hear the customers say that they are comparing dealers to buy from and not other brands. Of course, it’s just the same with buyers of Chevy/Ford/Dodge products. They don’t cross shop because they were raised as a (Chevy/Ford/Dodge) person and that’s all they’d ever buy

by tootthekazoo on Sep 21, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm kinda down on new Toyotas.

That said, I’ve already talked myself into an 04/05 WRX wagon.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

it was only a matter of time.

The Michael Cera School of Acting

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by JY on Sep 21, 2010 8:58 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Well when you put it that way, it sounds like he's Hollywood's one trick pony.

In actuality, he might be the next one trick pony. Remember, Tom Cruise still breathes. As does TobeyMac. Yeah, I just wrote “TobeyMac.”

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 21, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keanu Reeves also.

Though he’s kind of a 2 trick pony, what with Bill and Ted, followed by everyothermovieheeverstarredin.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 22, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was different in Bill and Ted than he was in other movies?

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Sep 22, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I mean

his one trick is to be like he was in Bill & Ted, in everything he does. It was especially comical in Hamlet.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I say "heck" because "fuck" seems insensitive to the family people here.

Looking out for you folks! Yeah!!

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 21, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where the fuck is everybody?

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 21, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

heyo!

The Rainiers season ended today. The Clinton Lumberkings ended the other day. All we’ve got left are a dozen plus Mariners games.
(I’m drinking, is pretty much what I’m saying).

by marc w on Sep 21, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

See? A viable answer.

Fuck you, dude. I love you. Hope the baby is doing awesome and ready to stretch for the bullpen next season. Two, three mile fastball? That’s a step in the right direction.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 21, 2010 9:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Dammit. Reply fail to Marc W.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Sep 21, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh.

“The Icelandic Phallological Museum contains a collection of two hundred and nine penises and penile parts belonging to almost all the land and sea mammals that can be found in Iceland.”

Seriously.

by Tube on Sep 21, 2010 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahaha your name is Tube and you posted a link to a Penis Museum

Also, that museum seems to be quite strange, but hey whatever Iceland

by tootthekazoo on Sep 21, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   6 recs

Soccer in the US will never catch up to the big four...

 Using rough conservative estimates (15k each for the remaining CCL, 30k for the USOC, 40k for Chivas and assuming that we play one home playoff game) the Sounders are on pace to draw 840k fans this year. Minus baseball only the 79/80 Sonics drew more in Seattle sports history(890k).

by Robert on Sep 21, 2010 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

One or two losing seasons and Qwest will be half full at best

I already fear for Year 2 at PGE because Portland is not a town that attends non-Blazers sporting events, especially when teams don’t win. The Timbers novelty will have worn off big time so unless there’s a winning product on the field attendance will slide. But I don’t care, because I don’t give a good goddamn if soccer “grows” in popularity at all – the people that go are the ones that love to go, and that’s all that matters.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Sounders shat the bed for half the season and they're still selling.

At first it was “this is just a first year thing; they’ll lose half their season ticket holders in year 2” and now it’s “yeah, they were only bad for half of one year. If they’re bad for a full year, they’ll lose half their season ticket holders.”

The Sounders don’t need soccer to get more popular. They’re doing fine. And I actually think that’ll continue for a while. What will kill attendance is stupidity on the part of MLS, which is a very real threat.

by marc w on Sep 22, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm actually impressed that MLS is still around and able to expand, to be honest

And if the Sounders or Timbers do see attendance drops, I don’t think it’ll be a case of losing season ticket holders as much as the legendary “casual fan” who wants to “get into soccer” not showing up, but again, I’m not really concerned about that. I’m fine with MLS and soccer in general being a niche sport in this country – it’s a passionate niche, which makes me happy.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not at this point in time.

I think they could draw maybe 42k a game but the demand for tickets would go down significantly if you could walk up and grab a ticket for any game.

by Robert on Sep 22, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

I think the Sounders have done pretty much everything right in their first couple years, including setting a maximum attendance number.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

They look like fun to go to.

I keep saying I will get to a game but never do.

by d0nkey on Sep 22, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you can snag a US Open Cup ticket, do it.

I’ve had absurd amounts of fun at Sounders matches.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

October 5th at 7PM

It’s a weekday game, but if you want to see playoff atmosphere at a Sounders match this is it. Winner takes the trophy.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Grr. It is tough to make weekday games being in Bellingham and I get out of work at 6.

Sometimes I can leave early, but I work the kind of job where sometimes shit can happen towards the end of the day that could make me stay later.

by d0nkey on Sep 22, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's still some scattered tickets as well.

Club seats for $38 or so, but there may be cheaper options available too.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a pretty good deal.

I sat in the club seats for the last home CONCACAF match and it was a great place to watch.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also I need a panda costume.

To go with my Salmon costume. So I can take the photo A Panda, A Salmon and A nuke.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 22, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Amazing.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 22, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone should probably post a new OT, but I'd like to see someone else take a crack at the format and see if they can improve.

I’ll throw in a topic or two once it gets going.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2010 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

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