Carmen Fusco to be fired at end of season, report says

Fusco was the Director of Professional Scouting for the M's, and is getting the axe in part because no one in the front office did a Google search on Josh Lueke's charges.

over 1 year ago JY 73 comments 0 recs |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

You're shitting me.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 12, 2010 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Someone help me out with this.

The Leuke situation is so bad that the scouting director needs to be let go.

Leuke, however, will remain on the team.

I guess I just don’t see how this makes sense.

by Joe Metro on Sep 12, 2010 6:45 PM PDT reply actions

A number of people don't seem sold on the idea that he'll remain with the team through the offseason.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 12, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions

We better get a good return on him. I was actually getting a little excited about our bullpen next year.

by joey90 on Sep 12, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Bullpens are fairly easy to restock.

Because we’re rebels. Accurate, intelligent, introspective rebels. And damn proud of it my friend. - CapSea

by JLProck on Sep 12, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions

2010 M's?

by joey90 on Sep 12, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Because maybe their beef is not with the criminal record, but the not finding out about his criminal record.

by Matthew on Sep 12, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Either I still don't understand, or I do understand and it's just totally fucking stupid.

by Joe Metro on Sep 12, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions

It's not stupid to expect the people in charge of baseball operations to do even the most basic homework about the players they are bringing in.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 12, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions

I guess my issue is this:

If they fired Fusco because he didn’t tell them about the criminal record, then it was clearly a big deal. If they had known, would they have refused the deal?

I’ll phrase it differently: If it’s a big enough deal for Fusco to be gone, why is Leuke still around?

by Joe Metro on Sep 12, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Talent trumps everything.

by MT Olson on Sep 12, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions

If this is true, it seems like it might be the sort of situation where SOMEONE needed to take the heat for this mess.

It is hard for me to say, as I have tried not to pay too much attention to this whole debacle. It makes me depressed and there has been too much depressing stuff about this season already.

by quacker27 on Sep 12, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions

And/or not to lie about it

by Matthew on Sep 12, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions

If someone mislead the higher ups of the team, then that's a big deal

by Poochie on Sep 13, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions

For as smart as this front office supposedly is, this is really, really dumb.

M's fan in PA, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Sep 12, 2010 7:18 PM PDT reply actions 11 recs

Lame.

You're dead to me.

by Goose on Sep 12, 2010 7:26 PM PDT reply actions

Since I don't see any how the front office could not have known, I'm just going to assume one of the higher ups wasn't told and is not happy about it.

by Janic on Sep 12, 2010 7:27 PM PDT reply actions

So let see if I have this right.

- Alan Cockrell, the hitting coach, was fired because the 2010 Mariners couldn’t hit.
- Don Wakamatsu, the manager, was fired because Ken Griffey Jr. retired in a grumpy mood and took the clubhouse morale out with him.
- Carmen Fusco, the pro-scouting director, is going to be fired because the front office brought in a prospect with a criminal record that contradicted ownership’s beliefs while claiming that they “didn’t know about it.”

The front office really needs to hold a press conference at the end of the season with take-home message being “We royally fucked up this year!”

by ThundaPC on Sep 12, 2010 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs

We've turned into the Mets of the AL.

You're dead to me.

by Goose on Sep 12, 2010 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Not until Pedro Grifol takes off his shirt and challenges Dave Cameron to a fight.

by marc w on Sep 12, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Will a skinny Jack Z lookalike do?

by Janic on Sep 12, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Was that picture taken at a tool convention?

by RustyJohn on Sep 12, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions

No, it was at a GUN SHOW!!!!!!!

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Sep 13, 2010 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Terry Francona

wants his shirt back…

by Homi on Sep 13, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions

I've been to Mets games and this is depressing.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Sep 12, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions

So assinine...

Nobody needs to be fired over this.

Just come out and say we’ve fixed things and instituted processed to ensure we catch this stuff going forward and be done with it.

I love Jack Z, but his affinity for axing people for no good reason is rubbing me the wrong way. They need to knock of the sacrificial lamb shit.

by PLU Tim on Sep 12, 2010 7:55 PM PDT reply actions

This is one case where I'm willing to hazard a guess that it wasn't necessarily Jack Z's call

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Sep 12, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions

This is such horseshit

Lueke is a good player. Be happy he’s in the organization! Fusco should be getting a raise for taking a risk on somebody who by all accounts has matured as a human being since that regrettable incident, if he even had anything to do with it.

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Sep 12, 2010 7:56 PM PDT reply actions

*to clarify: if Fusco even had anything to do with bringing Lueke in

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Sep 12, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions

You don't hand out raises when your subordinates lie to you and make you look like an ass.

I don’t agree with how this has played out either, but get a hold of yourself.

by abender20 on Sep 12, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions

"As long as Jack Z is safe."

This was one of my first reactions to this news. I don’t think it’s the correct way to interpret this situation (Jack Z could very well still be fired, who knows), but I am hoping that this means the owners don’t fully blame, if at all, Zduriencik for this whole Josh Lueke situation.

This situation has been blown out of proportion, and it’s all a damn shame.

by Aaroniero Arruruerie on Sep 12, 2010 8:01 PM PDT reply actions

They're doing everything possible to make me want to give Josh Leuke a legitimate chance, that's for sure

Maybe that’s what this is all about- a conspiracy to redirect anger at someone else so we can want Leuke to have a major league career

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Sep 12, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Must have been a difficult firing for Jack.

They seem to have worked together a long time.

by Wilder. on Sep 12, 2010 8:15 PM PDT reply actions

This literally makes the situation no better

Puts a guy out of a job, and makes the Mariners’ FO look increasingly incompetent.

Also, this really makes me think Lueke may not be with the org for long.

by Fuckmikereilly on Sep 12, 2010 8:22 PM PDT reply actions

There's just no way to spin this as anything but horrible corporate politics.

This organization has let incidents like this one hurt their ability to win in the past, and it doesn’t look like that’s about to change.

That’s too bad. Leuke is probably our best reliever. Under club control. Cheap as free.

If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...

by misterjonez on Sep 12, 2010 9:07 PM PDT reply actions

Not sure if it matters if Leuke was our best reliever.

What it appears to me is that the important thing is that it appears to me that Lueke will change his behavior in the future. Yet, because of “appearances”, someone will lose their job.

IF (I repeat IF) that’s the case, that’s horrible corporate management.

by rtang on Sep 12, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey, Chuck Armstrong, here's a Google search for you- 'Mariners suck"- 185,000 results.

by RustyJohn on Sep 12, 2010 10:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs

This team needs help, if this decision is Armstrongs he needs therapist.

by Kermit. on Sep 13, 2010 5:09 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs

We're in this problem because of therapist.

by Janic on Sep 13, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 23 recs

I cannot rec this enough

by d0nkey on Sep 13, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions

I take it most of you missed KLaw stuff about Jack Z in his last chat?

Joel (Pacific NW)

I see the Mariners going after Prince Fielder this off-season because of Jack Z’s previous connection to Milwaukee. Would Smoak and Pineda for Fielder (with a negotiating window for extension) get it done?
Klaw
(1:13 PM)

Let’s see if Zduriencik is still the GM in Seattle by the time we reach the hot stove season.

Zack (CT)

How thin is the ice that Jack Z is standing?
Klaw
(2:06 PM)

I only know what I’ve heard through the grapevine – ownership there is looking at a change. That doesn’t mean they will absolutely make one, but the Lueke fallout is still ongoing.

Jack Z is not safe and this could either be just the beginning of the house cleaning or a sacrificial lamb…

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Sep 13, 2010 8:54 AM PDT reply actions