On Stephen Strasburg, Felix Hernandez, And How Lucky We Are
Felix Hernandez emerged as a standout prospect and came up to Seattle back around when analyzing pitching mechanics was bigger than pogs. The consensus opinion at that time was that Felix was an injury risk. Well, all pitchers are injury risks. So the consensus opinion was that Felix was a bigger injury risk than most. The word being thrown around was 'violent' - Felix's throwing motion was violent, suggesting that there was a lot of stress and strain in there that wasn't completely being channeled into the ball.
Since his August 2005 promotion, Felix has made 166 starts and thrown 1109.1 innings, only once going on the DL for an arm injury - a forearm strain that kept him out less than a month. The last two years he's become perhaps the American League's leading workhorse, and rather than show signs of wear and tear, he's flourished.
This isn't to say that the people evaluating Felix's mechanics years ago were wrong. The issue isn't that we don't know what certain actions during the throwing motion will do. The issue is that we don't know how much each individual pitcher can take. We don't know, really, until they get hurt.
Consider the elbow. A little blurb I've been repeating an awful lot lately is that, according to studies done by Glenn Fleisig at ASMI, the average upper-level pitcher puts about 80 Newton-meters of torque on his elbow when throwing a fastball. Other studies, also done by Fleisig, have shown that the average ulnar collateral ligament (UCL - the ligament that requires Tommy John surgery if it tears) snaps when subjected to about 80 Newton-meters of torque. Why, those numbers are identical! You certainly get an idea of why so many pitchers' elbows break down. They're pushing themselves up against their limits.
But note the use of the word 'average'. People deviate from the average. Through biomechanical analysis, it's possible to get some idea of how much torque a specific pitcher puts on his elbow. It is not, however, possible to get some idea of how much torque his elbow can withstand.
That's what makes it a guessing game. With elbows, and with shoulders, and with everything. For all I know, today's mechanical analyses could be absolutely correct. People could be right on when they talk about things like inverted W's and throwing across your body. Without knowing anything about each pitcher's unique physical threshold, though, no concrete conclusions can be reached. We might - might - be able to say that Pitcher A has good mechanics and Pitcher B has bad mechanics, and that makes Pitcher B the greater injury risk, but we can't say whether or not Pitcher A or Pitcher B will get hurt, because we don't have enough information.
Some guys are fragile, and some guys are freaks. That's just the way it works out. Mark Prior's physical limits, we may conclude, are probably pretty low. Randy Johnson's physical limits, we may conclude, are probably pretty high. There's nothing you can do about it as a pitcher. You can't strengthen your UCL or your shoulder labrum. You just pitch, and you hope that you might be one of the lucky ones.
Based on the evidence we have, it would appear that Felix is one of the lucky ones. And based on his recent activity and this morning's news, it would appear that Stephen Strasburg is not.
It is unfortunate. Strasburg, when healthy, throws the best stuff in baseball. Strasburg, when healthy, has the ability to make any game interesting, and he has that ability as a National. Stephen Strasburg wasn't just a gift to Nationals fans. He was a gift to baseball. He was a gift to fans of the game, and a gift to possible converts. Stephen Strasburg was compelling - is compelling? - more compelling than any other arm in the league.
And now we won't get to watch him for a year, or possibly more than that, after a doctor cuts his elbow open, drills holes, and puts in a tendon he scavenged from another part of the body. And even after Strasburg comes back, we'll spend the whole time wondering. Strasburg will come back uneasy. He'll come back unsure whether he can trust his body to throw like he threw. And we'll be right there with him, wondering if what happened was a one-time deal, or a big flashing warning of more trouble to come.
I feel bad for Nationals fans, because I remember what it was like when Felix left that game against the Twins. I remember what it was like when Carlos Beltran bulldozed his way into Felix's ankle. I remember what it was like to watch Mariner games without any Felix starts on the horizon, and I wouldn't wish that despair upon anyone. It's miserable. Being without a guy like Strasburg makes a guy like John Lannan all the harder to tolerate.
But out of Strasburg's injury comes a message, or a lesson - one that sadly requires someone else's grave misfortune to be heeded. Be thankful for Felix. Be thankful not only that Felix throws what he throws; be thankful that Felix is able to throw what he throws every five days, with no interruption. Be thankful that Felix is an ace, and be thankful that Felix is a workhorse. Though his stuff is rare, his combination of stuff and durability is rarer still, and we've been given a blessing.
Felix could end up hurt. Any pitcher could end up hurt. Just because he's out of the danger zone doesn't mean he's out of danger entirely, and we could see something happen to his elbow or his shoulder at any point, on any pitch. That, though, isn't a concern unique to Felix. It applies to every arm in the league, and it's meaningful because we don't have to go into every start proceeding with caution. We can have confidence in Felix. We can worry about his game, and only about his game.
Be thankful that we have what we have. And should Felix's career come to a sudden end tomorrow, be thankful that he gave us five years of consistent availability. Pitchers like Stephen Strasburg don't come around very often. Pitchers like Felix Hernandez come around even less.
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Five Years. It just doesn't feel like it's been five years already.
Maybe it’s the wasted opportunities within those five years. Two winning seasons, one in which we had a legitimate shot at making the playoffs. Tack on the next few years needed to build a quality team with a strong foundation and I’m left sitting here wondering if we’ll get a team making a serious run for a playoff spot while Felix is still strong, awesome, and healthy? I’d like to think yes, but what happened with Strasburg reminds us that nothing is guaranteed.
Fantastic piece, Jeff
For every Roger Salkeld and Ryan Anderson, there’s a Felix Hernandez.
For every thirty Ryan Andersons, there might be a Felix
But I doubt Felix is a 1:1 ratio to anyone else. In anything.
I didn't mean to imply that it was a one to one ratio
Just pointing out that we’ve had our Stephen Strasburgs (if not quite at that level), too. It’s nice to see one break (for lack of a better word) our way for once.
I feel geniunely sad for Strasburg. It's a loss for all baseball fans, especially those of us who love watching pitchers work their magic.
And Felix, you will always be the man. No matter what.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Aug 27, 2010 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Dear Boston and New York,
Yeah, there’s a team way over here. I know, right?
Sincerely,
The Team With More Felix Hernandezes Than You
Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."
by joof on Aug 27, 2010 3:00 PM PDT reply actions 8 recs
Man, I just plagiarized to green.
Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."
Karma sucks, doesn't it, Riggleman?
Muahahahahahaha
Seriously, though, this is an unfortunate event for everyone who loves baseball.
That really is a downer for the game of baseball
Thank medical science for coming as far as it has though. Wasn’t it like 20 years ago where if you experienced that injury, you had very little chance of pitching again?
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
this is awful
there’s no reason he can’t come back. Surgery is really successful so why can’t he be one of those players who returns strong?
but the cynical voice says: what if he’s not one of those players whose pitching arm is strong enough to withstand pitching?
Here, here
(or is it “hear, hear”?)
We should consider ourselves fortunate to have enjoyed a healthy and productive Felix. For every pitcher that stays healthy and and enjoys a long, successful big league career, there’s probably a half dozen or more that have their arms fail them along the way.
Long live the King.
by nathaniel dawson on Aug 27, 2010 3:21 PM PDT reply actions
It's "hear, hear"
and you’re right, we don’t appreciate el Rey enough.
by The Ancient Mariner on Aug 27, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Felix always was 'The One'.
Felix was the once in a generation talent, not Strasburg or Lincecum. The only question now is if Felix is something more. He might be a one every fifty years pitcher, he might be a one every hundred years pitcher. Then again by the time all is said and done he could very well be the greatest pitcher ever in the history of the game. It wouldn’t surprise me.
The Strasburg hype kind of made me wonder
When Felix came along, he was supposed to have once-in-a-generation stuff. Which he did. But he seemed to back off of it a little bit in order to get more movement or get it in the strikezone. I don’t think his curve or slider move as much anymore, and his fastball isn’t as fast, but he’s undeniably a much better pitcher. We’ve seen other pitchers do the same. This may just be my perception, but it seems like guys never have the pure “stuff” 5 years into their career that they do as a rookie. Perhaps this is just because the hype goes down, or hitters adapt to his pitches, or us as viewers see his pitches so many times they no longer have the same effect.
Therefore, when a guy like Strasburg comes along, he takes the “once-in-a-generation stuff” title from Felix. But could he go the same way of most phenoms? In five years, will Strasburg or Felix be seen as the one with better stuff?
As for Jack Swan’s comment, Felix had hype. It didn’t nearly match Strasburg’s. He’s “The One” now, like it or not.
by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 27, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think part of it as well is that these pitchers realize it takes more than pure stuff to be an ace pitcher.
And I also seem to remember that Felix tweaked his pitching a little after his forearm strain so he put less stress on his arm. Whatever he’s done though has made him ultimately better.
by Hopefulmsfan on Aug 28, 2010 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Have people done a study to see if some people are truely freaks or if they are just lucky
Do different pitchers actually have special bodies or is it just luck that they haven’t had their elbow blow up. There must be some probability that any pitchers elbow will snap for every pitch they throw. It would be interesting to actually find out quantitatively the spread in durability of pitchers.
"It is not, however, possible to get some idea of how much torque his elbow can withstand."
That’s your answer in a nutshell. However, your question is phrased poorly. “Do different pitchers have special bodies” should read “Do different pitchers have different bodies”, which gives a much more obvious answer, especially since “special bodies” is a sort of nebulous phrase that doesn’t really mean anything in the real world. There aren’t “normal bodies” and “special bodies”. Different pitchers DO have different bodies though, and rather than a dichotomous normal/special view there are degrees and sliding scales, and they’re not one-dimensional scales either. While the human genome project has made progress in identifying some genes that correlate to stronger or weaker bones, ligaments, tendons and muscles, it’s still far too complex to even begin to hope to assign anything resembling an accurate probability for injury. For all we know there are separate genes that code for ligament thickness, for ligament elasticity, density, length, etc, all of which would play into ligament durability. Until we make significant breakthroughs in the areas of human genetics we won’t be able to figure out how much any given pitcher can withstand until, as Jeff points out, it’s too late.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by Terminator X on Aug 27, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff:
I haven’t read this whole thing yet, but I want to point out that your Strasburg article on the SBN sidebar was well done.
http://www.justingermanofanclub.com/

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