Strasburg --> Tommy John surgery
Or at least that's what's likely. I think this just goes to show that people have, for the most part, no idea what actually causes injuries to pitchers. Strasburg was as coddled pitch-count-wise since being drafted as anyone in history probably, and this happened.
In any case, this sucks for baseball.
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Rob Dibble can suck a fat one.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Aug 27, 2010 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Wow, that sucks.
It was a bad sign when his first MRI showed his tendons were still so swollen they couldn’t even see if there was damage days after the injury. Terrible news.
awful for the nats. they had a jordan zimmerman-strausberg 1,2 next year
along with a young team and, eventually, harper. it was going to be a heck of a year for them.
Does MLB get a discount bulk rate from Dr. Lewis Yocum or what
by Kermit. on Aug 27, 2010 9:26 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Google says he checked out Favre recently. I forgot all about him, does he work mostly on football players or something?
I’m trying to get one of these M.D. websites to compare the two of them but it won’t do it. Dammit.
I remember he used to work on baseball players all the time
He worked on Prior, Smoltz, Pettite, Freddie, Thome, a bunch of big name guys. But I haven’t seen him connected to a lot of baseball surgeries lately.
There are parents of high school kids who have given their child Tommy John surgery as a
preventative measure and also because they heard it can add 2-3mph to someone fastball.
This seems like the potential risks would outweight the potential benefits.
I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.
Looks like Dibble was right after all
Clearly, Strasburg is a pussy
We should've drafted Strasburg
We lost a golden opportunity for other people to make more hash six org jokes.
Dave Cameron's post about Strasburg is up on FanGraphs. In it, he writes:
Someday, hopefully, science will catch up the with the sport, and we’ll figure out how to keep some of these great young arms healthy…If MLB wants to find an area to invest in their long term future, this is where they should be throwing money.
This got me thinking, so I posted some questions that people with a lot more familiarity with scientific and medical research might be able to answer. I figured I’d post them here to. Any ideas?
-How would the research be funded, who would fund it, and who would carry it out? Are private, for-profit firms at the cutting edge or this, or university medical schools, or something else?
-Would the individual team that funded the a particular study have proprietary ownership over the fruits of its research? If so, would the resultant lack of collaboration and information sharing hinder the development of scientific understanding of injury prevention?
-How important is widely sharing information among researchers here crucial to a breakthrough (is it more or less important than a typical scientific endeavor?)
-Would it be a better overall for baseball and for young pitchers for MLB itself to fund a big, cooperative research program many teams participate and share the results or to have each team competitively funding its own studies and controlling the rights to its discoveries? With pitchers moving around so much, would it be hard, ethical, or even possible for a team to keep its magic breakthrough secret from everyone else?
We already have solutions though
HGH is banned for a reason. Coming up with medicine to prevent injuries and increase healing time has already been done to some extent. Most of these treatments would be banned as performance enhancers because they are probably going to have some side effects that are bad for your health and will give users an advantage over non-users.
by Edgar for Pres on Aug 27, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking more along the lines of the kind of biomechanics research that Graham worked on in college.
Throw underhand.
You cannot change the way the human body functions. Throwing a baseball repeatedly at high speeds is dangerous for everyone.
Yeah if you just threw slower you'd be fine.
Besides that, if you just look at the amount of force on your arm throwing a pitch 100 mph there isn’t much anybody can do. Robot arms for everybody…
by Edgar for Pres on Aug 27, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand where Decatur is coming from, I think.
I’ve had my whole knee replaced. When I had my femur severely broken, they put a plastic mesh around it to make it heal correctly.
Maybe someone can figure out some way to sheath the most fragile tendons, or inject something into them to make them less susceptible to tears? Or hell, figure out some sleeve that pushes the force of pitching to other areas of the elbow, spreading out the force?
I’m just throwing shit out there, but with the financial muscle that the MLB (or sports in general) could put into it, they could really get the ball rolling on ways to fix joints that would benefit everyone.
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I wonder if what really needs to happen
is that greater value is given to pitchers who throw consistently in the low 90’s, as opposed to the high 90’s to 100 mph.
I’m just a middle school teacher, but if I were a scout, I think I would move away from the guys who are just throwing heat. They are freaks of nature and history has shown us that they break down. Ultimately what makes a pitcher good is his ability to change speeds (Moyer) and his ability to locate (Maddux). Felix locates, he changes speeds and, as my memory serves, much has been made about his decreased velocity over the last 3-4 years.
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
Part of the reason the faster velocity guys hold their value
is in the perception that even if a guy loses a few ticks off the FB velocity, he can still be an effective pitcher. Drop from 95-97 down to 91-93 and you’re not going to experience career death. But if you drop from 91-93 down to 87-89, that very often does lead to career death.
I’ve never been 100% convinced of this particular vein of logic, but I did see a study once that correlated higher velocities with longer careers. So it could be that the above holds on its own merits.
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