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Or at least that's what's likely. I think this just goes to show that people have, for the most part, no idea what actually causes injuries to pitchers. Strasburg was as coddled pitch-count-wise since being drafted as anyone in history probably, and this happened.

In any case, this sucks for baseball.

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Wow, that sucks.

It was a bad sign when his first MRI showed his tendons were still so swollen they couldn’t even see if there was damage days after the injury. Terrible news.

by OlSalty on Aug 27, 2010 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Google says he checked out Favre recently. I forgot all about him, does he work mostly on football players or something?

I’m trying to get one of these M.D. websites to compare the two of them but it won’t do it. Dammit.

by Kermit. on Aug 29, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember he used to work on baseball players all the time

He worked on Prior, Smoltz, Pettite, Freddie, Thome, a bunch of big name guys. But I haven’t seen him connected to a lot of baseball surgeries lately.

by OlSalty on Aug 29, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

We should've drafted Strasburg

We lost a golden opportunity for other people to make more hash six org jokes.

by ThundaPC on Aug 27, 2010 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Dave Cameron's post about Strasburg is up on FanGraphs. In it, he writes:
Someday, hopefully, science will catch up the with the sport, and we’ll figure out how to keep some of these great young arms healthy…If MLB wants to find an area to invest in their long term future, this is where they should be throwing money.

This got me thinking, so I posted some questions that people with a lot more familiarity with scientific and medical research might be able to answer. I figured I’d post them here to. Any ideas?

-How would the research be funded, who would fund it, and who would carry it out? Are private, for-profit firms at the cutting edge or this, or university medical schools, or something else?

-Would the individual team that funded the a particular study have proprietary ownership over the fruits of its research? If so, would the resultant lack of collaboration and information sharing hinder the development of scientific understanding of injury prevention?

-How important is widely sharing information among researchers here crucial to a breakthrough (is it more or less important than a typical scientific endeavor?)

-Would it be a better overall for baseball and for young pitchers for MLB itself to fund a big, cooperative research program many teams participate and share the results or to have each team competitively funding its own studies and controlling the rights to its discoveries? With pitchers moving around so much, would it be hard, ethical, or even possible for a team to keep its magic breakthrough secret from everyone else?

by Decatur on Aug 27, 2010 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

We already have solutions though

HGH is banned for a reason. Coming up with medicine to prevent injuries and increase healing time has already been done to some extent. Most of these treatments would be banned as performance enhancers because they are probably going to have some side effects that are bad for your health and will give users an advantage over non-users.

by Edgar for Pres on Aug 27, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Throw underhand.

You cannot change the way the human body functions. Throwing a baseball repeatedly at high speeds is dangerous for everyone.

by Sec 108 on Aug 27, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah if you just threw slower you'd be fine.

Besides that, if you just look at the amount of force on your arm throwing a pitch 100 mph there isn’t much anybody can do. Robot arms for everybody…

by Edgar for Pres on Aug 27, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand where Decatur is coming from, I think.

I’ve had my whole knee replaced. When I had my femur severely broken, they put a plastic mesh around it to make it heal correctly.

Maybe someone can figure out some way to sheath the most fragile tendons, or inject something into them to make them less susceptible to tears? Or hell, figure out some sleeve that pushes the force of pitching to other areas of the elbow, spreading out the force?

I’m just throwing shit out there, but with the financial muscle that the MLB (or sports in general) could put into it, they could really get the ball rolling on ways to fix joints that would benefit everyone.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Aug 27, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if what really needs to happen

is that greater value is given to pitchers who throw consistently in the low 90’s, as opposed to the high 90’s to 100 mph.

I’m just a middle school teacher, but if I were a scout, I think I would move away from the guys who are just throwing heat. They are freaks of nature and history has shown us that they break down. Ultimately what makes a pitcher good is his ability to change speeds (Moyer) and his ability to locate (Maddux). Felix locates, he changes speeds and, as my memory serves, much has been made about his decreased velocity over the last 3-4 years.

I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh

by HitKing69 on Aug 27, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part of the reason the faster velocity guys hold their value

is in the perception that even if a guy loses a few ticks off the FB velocity, he can still be an effective pitcher. Drop from 95-97 down to 91-93 and you’re not going to experience career death. But if you drop from 91-93 down to 87-89, that very often does lead to career death.

I’ve never been 100% convinced of this particular vein of logic, but I did see a study once that correlated higher velocities with longer careers. So it could be that the above holds on its own merits.

If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...

by misterjonez on Aug 28, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

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