Mariners Send Rob Johnson South, Recall Adam Moore
Well I wasn't really expecting this:
Hearing that Adam Moore will be called up tomorrow. Rob Johnson to Tacoma.
Granted, this'll only last for a month, if that, but if I'm interpreting this correctly, it's a pretty big statement. It also explains why Josh Bard has caught two of Felix's last three starts. Bard caught on July 20th, then caught Felix on July 21st. Bard also caught on July 30th, then caught Felix on July 31st. Unless Johnson was dealing with something minor that didn't leak to the media, the Mariners made the deliberate decision to have him sit out a couple Felix Days. That's significant.
I forgot who it was that pointed out that the Mariners haven't spoken as glowingly of Johnson this year as they did in 2009, but it seems to be true, and this may be the latest indication that they're growing increasingly frustrated. Johnson's sitting on a .574 OPS, and while his throwing arm has been okay, he leads the league in passed balls and has allowed an additional 23 wild pitches. Almost everything about Johnson has been a disappointment this year - even his walk rate, which has dropped to 7.6% since early May after an encouraging start. Pitchers figured out how bad he is, just as they did ages ago with Jack Wilson.
Is Adam Moore the savior? Doubt it. He's had his defensive problems, too. He looked like total crap with Seattle before he got hurt. He has hit fairly well with Tacoma, though, with a double and a homer just yesterday, so, what the hell? What's the harm? Moore gets a confidence boost from having earned another chance, and Rob Johnson learns that he can't just rest on his reputation. His reputation has changed a little bit.
I could be making entirely too much of one simple, short-term transaction, but: Rob Johnson had a shot to be the Mariners' catcher of the future. He couldn't take advantage, so now it looks like he'll have to wait his turn for seconds while Moore gets a go. I don't think anybody sees Moore as some future superstar, but I also don't think anybody wanted him to stay trapped behind Johnson without ever getting a chance. He is at least as talented. Time for him to show that he might have a little bit more.
If Michael Pineda falls in love with Rob Johnson, I quit.
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Moore won't be a superstar,
but he at least has a chance to be league average, which would be saying something for the M’s.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
THIS IS ME YELLING AT YOU
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Aug 2, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
BLAAARRRRRGGGHHHHH NOOOOOO!
(I hope the yelling tone came across well) (I hope you’re thinking crazily, really.)
by seattlesundevil on Aug 2, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
They want to give Moore a shot, and Johnson has options left.
I’m going to assume it’s that simple until something shows me differently.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Pineda hasn't had much practice at overcoming wild pitches
I’m sure Rob can teach him a thing or two.
by skjes on Aug 2, 2010 4:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with this
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Aug 2, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Turd Ferguson has a funny name.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Nah, queers have better haircuts.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Aug 2, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or at least more highlights.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Federal Way, I think.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Aug 2, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Renton
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Aug 2, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
HS in Federal Way
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Aug 2, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't live in San Francisco, but some of my family is from the San Francisco area.
Plus they’re good. And one of their team colors is orange. I like the color orange.
Milton Bradley is my hero.
Best news Ive heard all week
even though the season has been in the tank since the end of April, its comforting to see some of the prospects getting their hacks in, whether they succeed or not. Pineda and Ackley next?
Peace, Love and West Coast Hip Hop, Go Mariners!
I don't mind if Ackely, Pineda, etc get a cup of joe in September.
But I don’t want them called up now and starting everyday (or every five days). Let them do what they need to do in AAA, and see where we are in ST next year.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Let them get through the playoffs with Tacoma and then get token appearances at the end of September.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Aug 2, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he was talking about how impressive it was to be drafted and work your way up to AAA in one year.
Here's the full quote
“This is good for Ackley,” Zduriencik said. “When you consider this is July 23, he didn’t sign till August 17 of a year ago, he hasn’t even been in pro ball for a complete year. This is his first touch of professional baseball and he is going to end it in Triple-A. I think that says an awful lot about him.”
I thought it meant AAA was the end of the line for him this year, but it could be that.
Or he will end his professional baseball career in AAA
by d0nkey on Aug 2, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Apparently Z is going to murder him after the last game of the AAA season?
Just for fun I guess?
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
"and he is going to end it in Triple-A"
I know it’s not exactly what he meant, but the quote does lend itself to misinterpretation.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
It's not very well worded, I'll admit.
But if you’re reading that outside of the context of an organization that has rushed prospects in the past, it’s pretty clear that the meaning is “it’s impressive that this kid has gotten as far as AAA in his first pro season.”
PANTS ARE OFF AND WE ARE AT FAP FACTOR 5
by OlSalty on Aug 2, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Aug 2, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I am in a public place :(
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Aug 2, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Hasn't stopped me before :D
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
HELLO GRANDMA!!!
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
With dementia setting in, who's to say what really happened?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Aug 2, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Hope Grandma left her dentures out.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
by Thingray on Aug 2, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Via text:
Johnson, moore. I’m actually surprised!
by Jeff Sullivan on Aug 2, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Moore grabs this opportunity by the balls.
...and now I'm here
I hope Moore can catch some balls.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
I was hoping for a Moore demonstrative statement from you
by seattlebruin on Aug 2, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
I forgot the password to my "I Lick Squirrels" account.
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on Aug 2, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'm Adamed if I do and I'm Adamed if I don't.
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on Aug 2, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Quick, someone register "I'm NOT Johnson."
...and now I'm here
Moore fills a hole after Johnson's balls dropped.
...and now I'm here
Here's some Moore
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
So, you feel Rob'd?
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
by JAH on Aug 2, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Rob Johnson had a shot to be the Mariners' catcher of the future?
This doesn’t seem to me to be a very promising future if so, considering that his realistic ceiling was somewhere in the Josh Bard/Tom Lampkin realm of “not a complete waste of bench space as a backup, but not very good as a starter”.
by eponymous_coward on Aug 2, 2010 4:30 PM PDT reply actions
I'm fairly confident you're joking, but also probably not a catcher of the future for anyone.
I wonder what it’d take to pry Ramos away from the Nationals.
Actually, this probably skates a little too close to rosterbation, sorry.
I’m used to being able to delete my comments!
Please ignore.
DH of the future.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
He's good too
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Aug 2, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Adam Moore has looked like shit this year, but I still like his upside and I think he's obviously the better choice over Rob.
I think his bat can play at the .310 wOBA level in the majors, and if we’re lucky he can be maybe be a .320 guy.
I really hope he’s good, because our system is devoid of catchers, and consistently average to above average catchers are not readily available.
The difference between a .310 wOBA and a .320 wOBA is like four runs over the course of a season
I think we can shoot higher than that for his upside.
In my mind, he's like 40% chance to be at least .310, 15% to be at least .320 for the next few year.
.310 would put him slightly below average, assuming slightly below average defense.
.320 would put him slightly above average, assuming the same.
It’s possible he could reach higher, but his reasonable upside is basically Kurt Suzuki.
And I think about a 60% bust rate sounds about right.
I think there is a 82% chance that pulling numbers out of your ass is pointless.
by abender20 on Aug 2, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
I bet if I could pull numbers out of my ass I could find an audience online to pay $19.95 a month.
by Sec 108 on Aug 3, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You, sir, are correct!
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Aug 2, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Now they're going to trade him.
Just to make you eat your words.
WOOOOO
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
This is interesting, at minimum.
It could be Moore
ignacio
Think of all the commercials he can do
Save Moore on car insurance!
If he hits like he has at Tacoma we can go camping with him
and have s’mores
ignacio
Are you in the Boy Souts?
cause that sounds scary!
I'm surprised but from Drayer, sounds like Rob isn't.
Johnson, who has struggled both offensively and defensively this year following three off season surgeries told me recently that the writing was on the wall. “I am not hitting and Adam deserves to come up,” he said after watching Josh Bard catch four out of five games on the last roadtrip. “If it happens I will go down there and work.”
I don't like Rob Johnson the player,
but that’s a pretty honest and nice thing of him to say.
Well that's nice.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Aug 2, 2010 7:24 PM PDT reply actions
Sweet, now I can resurrect my catcher's interference drinking game!
There are 2 things in this world that I do not trust when they're wireless and that is phones and marionettes.
Are you serous?
You can’t possibly drink very much with that game.
Go Twins!

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