Okay Here's Your Stupid Annoying Cliff Lee Speculation Thread
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 9, 2010 10:41 AM PDT
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#Mariners have turned in a different direction and #Yankees do not believe they are in it now (more to come)
To repeat the #Yankees aren't getting Cliff Lee, #Mariners concerned about David Adams ankle plus apparently another team has jumped in hard
Rumors!
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I missed this, but I hate this.
All indications, right now, are that Lee's going to New York in exchange for Jesus Montero, probably David Adams, and a third guy. I don't know when anything is going to be completed, but if Z's sitting on that kind of offer from the Yankees, it would only make sense for him to get in contact with the other interested parties to give them one last shot at upping their proposals. By the sounds of things, New York wants to get something done before tonight's game, and I think I speak for everyone here when I say oh god yes
Jason Churchill is running frequent updates over at Prospect Insider. Say what you will about Churchill's rumor track record, but he nailed the first Cliff Lee deal from the start, and he's not a guy you should just ignore on principle. He's not making stuff up.
When I went to bed yesterday, I was planning to wake up and write a post about tonight being Lee's final start in Seattle. I guess that probably won't be happening, which sucks. On the other hand, the end of one era could signal the start of another, as Michael Pineda is supposed to throw for Tacoma today and the M's would need a replacement. It's something to look forward to. As long as there's always something to look forward to, I think we'll be all right.
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Can someone link me or fill me in on what we get with Montero and Adams?
I don't like superstitious people. They're bad luck.
The very short of it
Montero: elite prospect, 20 year old catcher in AAA, big questions about whether he stays at the position but his bat has as much potential as anyone’s
Adams: developing young 2B in AA, questions about defense could shift him to 3B, draws walks, having best year of career in highest level yet
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 9, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Great thanks!
Sounds pretty good to me. Especially if Montero could stay at Catcher.
I don't like superstitious people. They're bad luck.
by Rich Langford on Jul 9, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't.
It means they were offered one of the best prospects in baseball and took it.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 9, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I love my 9 year old ZX2 like a child but if somebody offered me a Lamborghini Reventon that shot out flames and stinger missiles I would throw Mike Holmgren into the trunk and drive it into the Gulf of Mexico.
by Robert on Jul 9, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 23 recs
Would rather have J.R. Murphy
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 9, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Twitter going crazy!
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
That's what I thought,
but the sting of trading him to the Yankees is terrible. You know they will re-sign him, too.
But then again, Montero.
by killer_ewok18 on Jul 9, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Now they just avoid having to give up picks
Pretty smart move
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, it's hugely unlikely that the picks will be worth anything close to what they're giving up.
They’re still paying a hefty price to get him a few months early.
Churchill
UPDATE @10:46 AM PT Friday : A source has told PI that the third piece is likely Zach McAllister. Ken Rosenthal is reporting it as well. Wow.
You're dead to me.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
The addition of McCallister would make this, for me, the most dominate package for a rental since Bartolo Colon, unless I'm forgetting something.
Not as good as Colon, but the best since.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, definitely better than Sabathia.
Miles above Tex being traded to the Angels, but probably below Tex to the Braves, which was more than a rental.
Yeah but that trade holy shit.
The Braves made the Rangers what they are today.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 9, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
And yet the Braves still have young guys powering their team this year.
The Braves are boringly great.
This is a nice haul....
even if McAllister’s numbers don’t really wow me. Seems like a definitely MLB starter, but a mid rotation guy.
Can’t complain though. We look to be getting our legit mashing prospect.
You should look past the numbers, or look at better numbers than ERA for instance.
Because his FIP has been stellar throughout his career. He’s not a strikeout guy, but he’s typically been a great groundballer.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not looking at ERA....
I’m looking at K rates, BB rates, and his GB/FB.
His GB/FB has gotten progressively worse at each level. He looks to be more of a fly ball guy as of now.
He's 3-4 years younger than the competition at AAA. This is really his first "bad" season. I'm ready to call him an excellent "third" prospect in any deal.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Not Disagreeing....
He’s a great 3rd piece. I just don’t see much in his peripherals that indicates that he’ll be more than a 3 or 4. There is nothing wrong with that as a 3rd piece in this deal.
Definitely.
And the best part is that #4 and 5 starters can do pretty well around here. He gives us so much better depth at SP.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I still believe he's no better than a #5
But the Yankees system is pretty weak after Montero so McAllister is a huge score.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 9, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Well is a gorgeous day, it'll be warm out, and is an otherwise fine time to go to a baseball game
but if you’re hoping to see Pineda I’d wait until something is announced before buying a ticket from StubHub or a scalper because you might end up seeing Garrett Olson pitch.
Cock-blocker.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Well, he's white and left-handed...
Not as sexy though.
by Aaroniero Arruruerie on Jul 9, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It is an awesome day
but my only reason would be to see Crifford’s last game as an M. Or to be fondled by Ichi.
After today I may never have to hear 'Criff Ree' ever again
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 9, 2010 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 7 recs
AFTER today.
Criff Ree.
(sorry, I never have used this before, never wanted to)
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't get this meme at all.
He could not possibly be less Asian.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Melenious popped off with that the first time
It sort of spun out of control from there, big surprise eh?
I had a friend start calling him Criff Ree years ago
I didn’t get it then, and I don’t get it now.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 9, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Just sounds funny, in my head
Though I wouldn’t deign to actually speak it. Having no Cliff and therefore no reason to write it is what I regret.
by lemonverbena on Jul 9, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
You might be on to something.
Maybe it’s any name involving Bra-? Brandon/Brandon/Bradley?
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Woops. Thanks for catching that one.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Does this somehow increase Zeke's chances of stardom?
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Unless he fixes that it's irrelevant though
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed, but at least this seems like something that more experience can fix.
I guess it just seems a little less damning than the other option, Zduriencik has no idea how to build a roster.
I don't think this is an experience problem.
He’s been around baseball rosters. Building them is a direct manifestation of his philosophy and we’re sort of seeing it.
To be fair though, the roster he built going into ST was drastically different than the one that started the season.
I think there’s a case to be made that he deferred to Wakamatsu/whoever.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
That's where I think additional experience can help.
The GM thing is still fairly new to him. Perhaps as he moves on he’ll have a better grasp concerning how much leeway he gives his coaches to construct the roster.
You've got to think that the manager has a lot of input into the opening day roster.
It’s hard to fault a GM in giving his manager some autonomy into lineups and that sort of thing. You’d just hope that they’d step in when things get really stupid.
I seem to recall reading a report here where Z was unhappy with many of the choices Wak made this year; that report made me happy.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 9, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I think my favorite part of this whole thing is how Cliff Lee has been better than Roy Halladay and how we are getting back 10X more than what we gave to Philly for Lee.
Hilarious.
You're dead to me.
Montero>Aumont
McAllister>Ramirez
Adams maybe worse than Gilles?
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 9, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing....
Ackley is packing for Tacoma.
Not quite.
Montero>>>>>>>>>>>>Aumont.
That’s the best part.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
RAMIREZ WILL TOP OUT AS A BULLPEN ARM WITH INTRIGUING VELOCITY AND NO COMMAND
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Soooo... yes.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
ONE OF THE REASONS I LOVED THE LEE TRADE IS BECAUSE IT FINALLY ALLOWED ME TO SAY THAT RAMIREZ ISN'T GOOD
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I believe you much more with all caps
For some reason both these comments work well
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 9, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
IT ALLOWS ME TO GET AROUND THE USUAL NEED FOR EXAGGERATED DECLARATIONS
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What if Jack Z is tricking us and is actually gonna get Smoak/Holland/Salty from the Rangers
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
That would be better but this package is still fucking fantastic.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 9, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
It's amazingly better than the Ramos-centric package being floated for the last week.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
It was most certainly worthy of discussion.
Just not overwhelming like the Montero package appeared to be.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Maybe we throw in League.
Yankees fans have been bitching about their pen.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 9, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Olney on Brock and Salk!
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
And here I thought we were through with Jesus puns.
I hate this trade.
by killer_ewok18 on Jul 9, 2010 11:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Those aren't puns. They're bad jokes.
by Matthew on Jul 9, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Correct.
A pun would be, “Jesus can be found in almost any city but the one in San Diego truly stands up to its reputation.”
Still not funny though. Sorry, I suck at puns.
Jesus, Colome on your temple at Olympia seems to have broken. You might want to have some Greeks examine the other columns.
(Assuming the Spanish pronunciation of Jesus >_>)
33!
by joof on Jul 9, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
For that to stop,
You’ll either need to banish that name for the Latin American lexicon, or get them to stop liking/playing baseball.
I think the Indians to Phillies one was pretty fair value.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 9, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that one surprised me
Carrasco has been slipping in terms of prospecthood last I checked
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Not including this deal
June 27, 2002: Traded by the Montreal Expos with Brandon Phillips, Grady Sizemore and Lee Stevens to the Cleveland Indians for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew.
July 29, 2009: Traded by the Cleveland Indians with Ben Francisco to the Philadelphia Phillies for Jason Knapp (minors), Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald and Lou Marson.
December 16, 2009: Traded by the Philadelphia Phillies to the Seattle Mariners for J.C. Ramirez (minors), Phillippe Aumont (minors) and Tyson Gillies (minors).
FanGraphs on McAllister:
“”http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/new-york-yankees-top-10-prospects/" >At worst, he should settle in as a No. 3 starter in the Majors if he can stay healthy."
Sounds good for the third player in the deal.
On Montero: “The sky is the limit for Montero and his bat would play anywhere on the field.”
Calling a prospect a big-league #3 "at worst" is retarded
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 9, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I can't see him being much better than a #3.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 9, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Harry Pavlidis had him in a short list of pitchers likely to find big league success
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been following McAllister since he was drafted. I can honeslty say he’s more like a #4 or 5 at best. Being a 3 at worst was contingent on developing a changeup or refining his slider to make either a true K pitch. As it stands that development hasn’t really come and he’s starting to look like a back of the rotation guy. 5.4 k/9 in AAA isn’t indicative of a #3 starter or better.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 9, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Subject line, please...
And welcome to LL! Even though you will probably only be here for a day or two.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Ahh, ok.
Some other SB nation blogs don’t use subject lines at all, my bad. And, thanks for the welcome. I’m kinda bummed about the trade, but both teams got what they wanted. I think the Yanks might have overpaid a little bit, especially if the 3rd prospect is McAllister and we don’t get a little something extra back from you guys. But, oh well. your farm get’s a little stacked, yanks look primed to repeat. Win-Win.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 9, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
The haul that we are getting here is one that I think a lot of rosterbaters even would have scoffed at
I read McAllister and have been smiling since. What’s the story with David Adams? They say it’s a sprained ankle, but he appears to have been out since late May?
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Those are lingering pains.
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 9, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I beleive he broke his ankle, actually.
He’s a guy I hate to lose, but with Cano looking like a fixture for a while it’s easy to let him go. He’s a very interesting player.. He was actually a hot DES prospect out of UVA back in 2007. Didn’t sign but followed it up with a subpar junior year. Yanks must have seen something they liked and snatched him up in the 3rd round of 08. He’s got good contact skills, average power, but a very good approach. Plays an average 2b, but is considered a “grinder”, “always gets the uniform dirty” (aka that’s how he broke his ankle, trying to break up a double play). He definitely could be a mlb caliber 2b. good BA; Good Obp and maybe 10-15 HR.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 9, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I've heard that his ceiling is a Dustin Pedroia-type player
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but he's replacing someone who's ceiling is a Miguel Tejada-type player.
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
I cringe at that comparison
because while Pedroia might be short and balding, he’s really freakin good at baseball. Adams is not as skilled as Pedroia, but he plays with the same style.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 9, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
but then again there is true value in the cheap back of the rotation starter.
the more of those guys you have access to the more likely you get one that can stick.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Was just thinking this.
Sounds like another Fister / Vargas pitcher, which is fine by me.
The term 'spaghetti' gets a negative connotation,
but in this case I think it’s fairly close. Throw enough talented, underachieving arms in the mix and you’ll pluck a gem or two. McAllister fits that mold perfectly.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
cheap is good
better to produce those guys in house at the min than to have to spend 3 to 5M on a BORP
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I stared... I thought.. I stared more.
And then laughed my ass off.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the input
you do not expect progress from a 22 year old? Also, can you give us a rundown on his stuff/velocity?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure,
Progress is always to be expected, and it’s either right around the corner from him, or not gonna happen at all. His floor is a solid #4 or #5 because he has great command of a 90-91 mph f sinking FB (2.2 career bb/9) and two average breaking balls, a slider he can command and a decent changeup. Unfortunately, neither hare blessed with plus movement and his smooth (and repeatable) delivery doesn’t deceive at all. Right there that’s the description of a 4 or 5. Average velocity (can crank it up to 94 with the straight 4 seam, but rarely does), with command of the fb and offspeed stuff is good, but if one of those pitches were to magically become plus,(by changing the grip, or learning a new variation of the pitch) that adds K’s to the arsenal instead of just groundballs. It could happen immediately or it might never happen at all.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 9, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
So, Carlos Silva?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't imagine a bat playing very good defense
It seems like it would be smarter to have a player play defense
The best part about this.
We essentially traded Aumont, Gillies, and Ramirez for Montero, Adams, and McAllister, and in the process saw one of the most amazing displays of pitching in Seattle for quite sometime.
Good work, Jack.
RJ did some damned impressive stuff during his tenure.
But Cliff Lee’s Mariner statistics will forever reflect exactly what it felt like to watch him pitch.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
With every other AL team's WS chances about to go out the window
I expect Jack is using this opportunity to try to pry loose just a little bit more from his other suitors. Tampa strikes me as the team with the most to lose with Lee going to NY, along with the talent throughout their organization to at least match the rumored NY offer. The Red Sox are in the same position, but I haven’t heard them mentioned much in trade rumors for Lee.
This was one of the first things that popped into my head after hearing all the news this morning.
This deal all but ensures a Yankees WS repeat victory. As long as we get our return and it helps us build a future winning team, my logical side is more than okay with this. But my inner-Yankee hater is fuming right now. He needs a snickers and a time-out.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Jul 9, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Our minors are kind of stacked now huh....
Makes looking towards 2011 and 2012 a lot easier.
We still don't have a lot of depth
But 3 of the top 11 prospects in baseball…after years of never having anyone sniff the top 10 (outside of Jones, I guess)…
It’s a new feeling, and it feels good.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 9, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Going into last season was bad.
Going into next season will be good.
Its a great jump after two years at least.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
If we have 4 in the top 100 plus the recently graduated Adam Moore and Michael Saunders plus our recent draft class plus McAllister and Adams and Robles/Halman/Tenbrink/Liddi...
The depth is improving greatly and rapidly. Jack has changed our farm around like he promised he would.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll send you mine!
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 9, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
So....
Is Montero’s bat one that qualifies for the “Harper Exception” where he should just be moved from C for the sake of added production and playing time?
On this team?
I’d say “absolutely.” We can’t wait around for him to learn to catch, especially given the doubts scouts are expressing that he’ll ever learn the position.
no his footwork, poor ball transfer and game calling skills do
but the bat plays regardless… As long as that keeps up its fine
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Buster Olney said that people have told him Montero compares to Edgar - with more power.
This haul is absolutely making me giddy.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 11:27 AM PDT reply actions
I'm not proud
Has the “Jesus” thing been dead-memed yet? Seems like only a matter of time.
"You said it, man"
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Jul 9, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
You don't mess with the Jesus.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 9, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Most Lebowski references will get a rec from me.
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
I request a ban on Jesus jokes.
Unless the M’s sign the true"Son of God" and he pitches like Robert.
Fuck the Angels
by InSpokane on Jul 9, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wasn't sure if I should post the pic,
but seeing as it was Lebowski and one of the few truly funny instances of a Jesus joke, I decided to go for it.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
I approve of any Lebowski reference.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
I highly doubt Montero will learn to walk like Edgar.
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
Just to fuel the speculation even more,,,
Rosenthal…
The Tigers have pushed Rick Porcello back one day in the Triple-A Toledo rotation — and not because he’s hurt, sources say.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
If you flipped Montero for Porcello
I’ll flip.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
For the audio equivilent of this thread
per 710
We’re talking to @shannondrayer next. @keithlaw at 11:45. @stonelarry at 12:30. Huge day talking about Cliff Lee!
Heyman is behind everyone
we’ve already not talked about them for an hour
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Freddy Garcia?
Montero dumps on Jeremy Reed.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Jeremy Reed was an excellent prospect at the time and Freddy Garcia was nowhere near as good as Lee
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Reed wasn't quite elite status, though.
But I like Olivo (at the time) more than either secondary piece in this trade. And Garcia was much worse.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 9, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it possible that the Yankees are working for a negotiation window?
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Not really
Yankees don’t deal with contract issues mid-season.
They’re pretty stringent on that.
Sweet, thanks for the info.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
It has been reported already that there will not be one
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Can they make this effective tomorrow?
I want to see him fuck up the Yankees one more time.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
I would probably cry.
Against our offense that would be an easy no hitter.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 9, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
The Yankees have apparently put a deadline on this offer at the beginning of the game
No way is he going to face them tonight.
They said they don’t want him to get hurt.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
No.
Fuck that. No. I do not want to see that. Losing him is hard enough, I don’t want to see him in another uniform dominating our hitters.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm ready to skip lunch to go get tickets...just give me the good word Mariners!
I fucking hate you Mariners
I had to sell my 16 game plan tickets
Working. Stupid work.
Oooooooh.....
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
This could be the single greatest day in the history of the universe.
by abender20 on Jul 9, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This seems premature. I don't like it.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Jul 9, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
This might be bad guys
I’m hoping he is getting called up. He wouldn’t be involved in this deal right?
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 9, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
IF HE IS THEN I AM PREEMPTIVELY TYPING AS THOUGH I AM ENRAGED
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
THEORETICALLY YES
BUT WE NEED QUALITY PITCHING INTERNALLY AND ANY TRADE OF LEE IS GOING TO EXACERBATE THAT. LOSING PINEDA WOULD PUSH BACK OUR REBUILDING A BIT.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's absolutely phenomenal to read a rational, well-thought-out comment in all-caps.
Today is truly a special day.
I'LL BE HERE DOING THIS FOR MUCH OF THE DAY AND RUINING DELICATE SENSIBILITIES ALONG THE WAY
IF I FEEL LIKE IT LATER I WILL USE BIG WORDS IN ADDITION TO QUALITY GRAMMAR AND BLOW MULTIPLE MINDS
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Is there any chance someone will step in and try to beat this offer?
Could Texas or the Twins beat this offer?
Texas maybe could.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 9, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
What if Z is pushing this as a form of brinksmanship?
Making it look like this is nearly done so that other teams step up their offers?
by Smegmalicious on Jul 9, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
At this point it's impossible to tell.
I’m surprised we are hearing as much about this as we are.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 9, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, if it was anyone other than the Yankees we would be in the dark.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Me too.
That’s kind of what makes me suspicious of all this.
by Smegmalicious on Jul 9, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Keith Law says the Reds have potentially a better group of prospects than the Yankees'.
And says that their farm system is better. So them maybe.
I tried to put that thought in to words, but couldn't for some reason
This is exactly it. You can’t touch Montero – especially on a needs basis.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
The Rangers could pretty much destroy any offer by anybody.
But they won’t.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
And Holland.
In other words, not gonna happen.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Smoak defnitely should be.
But they could still do a Davis/Scheppers/Perez deal and I might could take that over the deal we are getting.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
That deal would be very "epic"
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 9, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
And as a side-benefit
It keeps these players off of Texas’ roster. Of course Texas then gets compensation picks when Lee walks…but those would likely be worse and further from the majors than what the M’s get.
Scheppers and Perez though. Davis was the throw-in.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Scheppers doesn't excite me all that much either.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Fine, since this is make-believe land, I'll give you Feliz instead of Scheppers and Andrus instead of Davis.
But you have to give me Lopez. On this, I will not budge.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Just because it will get me excited in a way that I can not mention here:
RF Ichiro
3B Figgins
1B Branyan
DH Montero
LF Saunders
CF Gutierrez
C Moore
SS J Wilson
2B Ackley (batting 9th to act as a 2nd leadoff hitter because of his on-base abilities)
Pick your poison for SP: Felix or Pineda
Somehow I told myself "Oops, better make Branyan the DH so he doesn't hurt himself" and I deleted it and still wrote 1B.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Seeing actually good hitters in the middle of that lineup has me all giddy.
by Hopefulmsfan on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
.
RF Ichiro
CF Jones
DH Snelling
1B Balentien
2B Lopez
3B Leone
CF Reed
SS Betancourt
C Olivo
SP Felix
SP Pineiro
SP Blackley
SP Nageotte
CL Soriano
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 10 recs
Man, 2007 is going to be SO awesome!
Only a few more years!
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Bakers blog says there is a rumor of a 3 pm presser "if all goes well"
That’s encouraging.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions
I kind of want this to draw out.
The rest of Baseball has to have some kind of reaction to this. Maybe we can get more loot!
by Smegmalicious on Jul 9, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
aw
@RainiersLand: Michael Pineda will make the start for Tacoma tonight! If you haven’t seen him pitch, you’re missing out. Pineda and Friday Night Fireworks!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Jul 9, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I am still somewhat skeptical
However, starting the clock on Pineda would not be smart, either.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
They also hedged
@RainiersLand: @millerdna @RedSeahawk As far as we know, Pineda is with us tonight!
There we go..
Like I said, somewhat skeptical still.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Something tells me RainiersLand isn't exactly up to date on everything
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 9, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I always picture TheRealMariners to be a 5 year old kid with a giant lolly.
by abender20 on Jul 9, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
A former boxer
who had a lot of TKO wins and has been taking courses on the power of positive thinking
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
TKO losses
I meant losses
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
nuts. It would be nice to see him in the bigs, even though it’s much too soon for him and he’d probably get torched.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm still doing a suspicious face on this.
by Aaroniero Arruruerie on Jul 9, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather not start the clock.
It’ll be a bummer not seeing cliff tonight (I already had tickets) but I’d rather not mortgage the future to relieve that annoyance.
Let's ask Mike Curto!
I fucking hate you Mariners
Is Rohn somewhere safely far away?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember when we got Cliff and he was shocked?
And there was a sentiment that he was pissed and maybe being a dbag about coming to Seattle?
Can anyone imagine some more upstanding and professional than Cliff Lee? I want him to be my friend.
Man am I glad I woke up in time before this became official
But just let me say…. holy shit
My Mariners blog SodoMojo, My Twitter Feed
Local media must kind of resent the fact that the NY and national guys were miles ahead of them on this
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:03 PM PDT reply actions
The feeling of inferiority goes much deeper than that
by lemonverbena on Jul 9, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Baker's contribution:
there is a rumor of a press conference
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Jack Z's great off season
Just gotta throw this out there. Jack received plenty of praise for his off season moves. He brought in Figgy who has been OK on defense, and not OK with the bat, Casey Kotchman who has been fantastic on defense and terrible with the bat, and Milton Bradley who has been not good on defense, terrible with the bat, and not as bad, though still not good in the locker room. Now, Cliff Lee is saying he was open to signing a long term deal before the season started, and the M’s decided they didn’t even want to discuss it. The only other big move he made was signing Felix to a long term contract… So, with the M’s team batting average sitting at .238, I would say Jack went 1 for 5 this off season, for a .200 average. At least the team is hitting better than somebody.
He traded for Cliff Lee and he's getting about three times as much value as he gave up for him.
If you don’t consider that a win then I don’t know what to say.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Lee Willing to Sign only Matter with $$$ behind it
It has been said repeatedly, but let me add one more. Of course Lee was open to signing before the season, it is all a matter of cost. Hell, anyone would be willing to sign just about anything for the right price so this is just not news. Would he have been willing to lock himself up for a price we could afford? Almost certainly not.
Tell that to San Francisco.
Zito and Cain locked up for 2012, with Bellevue’s finest biggest payday coming. Also, Jonathan Sanchez.
Hurray Sabean!
M's fan in PA, soon to be LA
by perfectstrat on Jul 9, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Man....
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 11 recs
Where's that 'stop posting' .gif when you need it?
Also, you forgot the Guti extension.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Your screen name is one letter too far to the left.
/pileon
by Mariner John on Jul 9, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
.
Hey! If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I’d like Jesus Montero, the Yankee, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a great, loving, good, solid, homer-hitting, run-driving, ass-smacking, dirt-sliding, overstuffed, smart, blood-pumping, baby-kissing, genius, large-packing, hope-giving, heartful, slim, wide-eyed, limber, sweet-loving, level-headed sack of rainbows he is! Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where’s the Tylenol?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
My question to the Yankees is really? Was this really necessary?
Did you really look at the Sabathia-Burnett-Hughes-Pettite-Vazquez rotation and think “Shit, we’re missing something here. Oh yeah, the best pitcher in baseball!”?
You're dead to me.
by Goose on Jul 9, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm seeing the word "gluttony" scattered throughout Yankee-ville.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
I guess this is as much about not facing him in the post season as anything else
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like overkill to me too.
We could have made a run at the WS again with the roster as is. Now we give up our best prospect for 3 months of a guy we could have had for only money. Oh well.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 9, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
The Red Sox or Rays could have tried to do what the Yankees did though.
Which is, “Now you don’t get him”
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Caller thinks B&S are like car salesmen, shilling for the Ms and these prospects
He also thinks it feels like Adam Jones all over again where they talked him up , and now look at him.
The one good thing that came out of this call was Salk doing a tv car ad for the prospects
That was hysterical...
Those commercials for Good Chevrolet on the radio crack me up.
Here I'm sitting in the other thread like a asshole.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 9, 2010 12:16 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Welcome to the cool thread
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
That thread is the worst
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You were right the first time...
that other thread was designed for assholes.
This really is gonna be a last second call
@CurtoWorld: The word from manager Daren Brown: as of 12:10 pm, Pineda is starting for the Rainiers tonight. Word from me: check back in 3 hours.
He could take the Sounder.
Fuck the Angels
Could be a part of the press conference at 3 pm
Announce the trade, announce the call up
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Hasn't been running since 2003.
Much like the Mariners!
by Eyeball Kid on Jul 9, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
It would probably be bad for Pineda's developmet to start his ML career now, today
but it would also be a huge, huge downer to watch a start by Olson or Pauley or whatever
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Time for Ichiro to fulfill his pitching dream!
by FairWeatherFred on Jul 9, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
He could always go to the bullpen!
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
Absolutely.
Send a top pitching prospect to the ML bullpen – what could happen?
Lord, that hurts to even joke about.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 9, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Start out with the Diamond Jaxx get called up to the Rainiers...
make a couple good starts. Get called up to replace the best pitcher in baseball to play against the Yankees.
Yup.
Sounds like a nightmare.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Jul 9, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
The exception proves the rule,
but some guys would absolutely thrive with that kind of pressure.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Pineda kind of lost focus once he lost the perfect game last time out.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Who is Ed Price? Saying the same thing on twitter.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Reply fail.
I meant ‘saying the same thing’ that he may start for the M’s.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I hate sports radio callers
“I hate this. These 3 players haven’t proven themselves. We should get a number 2 pitcher in return for Cliff Lee”
GOD DAMNIT YOU IDIOTS.
I love Salk just blasting them, though.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Post bullet points please!
I fucking hate you Mariners
"Fuck all you bitches"
“You don’t know shit about the minors or about being a GM”
That’s the abbreviated hatefest.
They will post a podcast of it in awhile
That is must listen radio right there.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
They better put up the 11am podcast pretty soon....
I need my fix.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy SHIT this is amazing.
Has he breathed yet?
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Salk, from what little I've heard.
Still, nowhere near enough to get me to willingly listen to a phone-in show.
by Eyeball Kid on Jul 9, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Larry Stone is on next
They generally have some great guests.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
They actually usually don't take that many calls during a normal show
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point
The less he talks, the better.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
He's the only good host on that station
Then again, that may be one more than KJR has.
710 has Dave Grosby starting next month.
That’s a pretty good pickup for them.
I agree. I love Groz.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
I actually like Gas too,
he doesn’t know much, but for me he’s fun to listen to.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
When I listened a few years ago, Groz would usually know what he was talking about.
Gas is fun, but sometimes he goes off well short of half-cocked.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
We've been making trades and making trades and with nothing to show for it.
We are in last place.
by msb on Jul 9, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
we should just sit around an be losers
trading is just worrying about the future.
Someone is going to say it...
Please capitalize.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
WE HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR THE TRADES JACK ZDURIENCIK HAS MADE
My Mariners blog SodoMojo, My Twitter Feed
by Griffin Cooper on Jul 9, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
My Mariners blog SodoMojo, My Twitter Feed
by Griffin Cooper on Jul 9, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
DEY DOOK UR JUUBS!!
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
by Thingray on Jul 9, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
STABBLE STABBLE
Which is mostly what I want to do when I hear those kinds of calls on local sports radio.
by eponymous_coward on Jul 9, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw this coming
My Mariners blog SodoMojo, My Twitter Feed
by Griffin Cooper on Jul 9, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw this coming
My Mariners blog SodoMojo, My Twitter Feed
by Griffin Cooper on Jul 9, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They could always put Vasquez in the deal to make the salaries closer
Wouldn’t want NY to blow their budget.
by eponymous_coward on Jul 9, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Mike Salk but holy crap listening to these callers makes me not want to listen to this every day.
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
Good to know.
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
This usually is a pretty call-light show.
The lines aren’t opened very often.
For obvious reasons
Could be worse. Could be listening to Softy.
by eponymous_coward on Jul 9, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Where they talk about LeBron instead of the Cliff Lee trade!?!?
ARGH!!!
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I imagine Softy forgot about the Mariners
once his mancrush, Junior, retired.
by eponymous_coward on Jul 9, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Fain was in today
I think Mahler had to take the day off to recover from his 30 minute show opener meltdown of yesterday
No
But he doesn’t like Prospects and thinks all trades should just involve the other teams best young major league players. I tried to explain “Under team control” and wasn’t getting anywhere.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 9, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone actually said that?!
They weren’t, like, trolling or something?
by FairWeatherFred on Jul 9, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Only if we ended up paying about half of their salaries.
Because, Cliff Lee.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
It'd be way too big, you dumbasses.
by Aaroniero Arruruerie on Jul 9, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed that. Really? What the fuck.
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
@JoelSherman
#Mariners backing off #Yankees offer, Post has learned. Does not look like #Yankees are in it.
Milton Bradley is my hero.
Perez/Smoak/Feliz
Texas went all in!
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 9, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Then what the fuck are we getting excited about.
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 9, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody just went insane with an offer, then.
This can only be good.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
DAMNIT
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
TORN BETWEEN DESIRE TO FUCK OVER BOTH RANGERS AND YANKEES AND DESIRE FOR AMAZING HITTER
CAPS LOCK UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
USE THE SHIFT KEY YOU PANSY
SERIOUSLY THOUGH, IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT THIS IS SMOAK AND HOLLAND I WOULD BE FUCKING ECSTATIC
SHIFT KEY IT IS
WE MUST SUFFER
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
AM I CRAZY TO THINK I WANT MONTERO MORE!?
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 9, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
NO BUT SMOAK IS ALSO REALLY AWESOME
My Mariners blog SodoMojo, My Twitter Feed
by Griffin Cooper on Jul 9, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he's better but if the value of the package as a whole is higher then I don't care
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
NO BECAUSE I CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHAT I WANT
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
WHERE ARE JEFF AND MATTHEW TO TELL US WHAT TO WANT! I CANNOT MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT THE LL HIVE MIND!
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
NO YOU REALLY AREN'T
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
please please please
My Mariners blog SodoMojo, My Twitter Feed
by Griffin Cooper on Jul 9, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
??
Uhhh… WTF?
Either TB/Tex did something over the top or the Twins went all in…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Hey so we have Mauer now.
Cool.
by Eyebrows on Jul 9, 2010 12:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I suddenly am less excited about Pineda not starting in Tacoma tonight
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
that is a scary thought...
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
This thread is outta control!
AHH!
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Jul 9, 2010 12:45 PM PDT reply actions
What the fuck is happening I have things to do today
Can anyone do me a favor and take over my appointments?
More from Sherman
To repeat the #Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee, #Mariners concerned about David Adams ankle plus apparently another team has jumped in hard
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
WHAT
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK DAVID ADAMS IN HIS ANKLE
by Eyebrows on Jul 9, 2010 12:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Seriously, how does that even enter the conversation?
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Oh, dammit.
I read it as Aardsma. Stupid sleep-deprived eyes.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
If we end up with Ramos - I am going to hate people.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I WILL HATE MORE PEOPLE THAN YOU
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU ARE RUINING MY PLANS BECAUSE THE MORE PEOPLE YOU KILL THE LESS I CAN HATE
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
CAN I HATE PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE DEAD?
IT SEEMS MORE EFFICIENT TO JUST INCREASE MY LEVEL OF HATRED FOR THOSE STILL LIVING
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT SEEMS TO RUN CONTRARY TO MY INTENDED PURPOSE
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I will vehemently ask Matthew to 404 the site.
M's fan in PA, soon to be LA
by perfectstrat on Jul 9, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuckity yes
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
.
JoelSherman: To repeat the #Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee, #Mariners concerned about David Adams ankle plus apparently another team has jumped in hard
Such is the mantra of all WSU fans.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
Going to WSU mentally fortified me for being a Mariner's fan.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
But worth retweeting!
I fucking hate you Mariners
FUCK I NEED TO WORK!
OH WELL YOU BITCHES CAN’T FIRE ME TWICE!
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 9, 2010 12:49 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
My boss is gone today, the person that assigns jobs is gone today
My other superior just left.
I’m wiiiiiiide open.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
THATS WHAT SHE SAID!
NO SHE DIDN’T YOU ASS!
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to be a a Debbie-downer
but is there reason to think that Safeco might kill Montero (if he’s traded here?) a la Beltre/Lopez? (Beltre probably has a (Mariners) career split of -.100 home/away on his OPS and Lopez is like ~.40 home/away… Worried about trading for a DH who is projected to OPS .850, but having to lop 100 points off that.
80 POWER AND HIT TOOL
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I get that, but it seems Safeco is an 80 on the "Keep line drives pulled by right handers from leaving left field" scale
by SgtSasquatch on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
A REASONABLE CONCERN CONSIDERING ONLY ONE OF HIS HOME RUNS LAST YEAR WENT TO RIGHT FIELD
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT I DIDNT KNOW. THIS SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD CROSS THE MIND
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY HAVE WE SET PHASERS TO CAPSLOCK?
… Did I do something wrong?
by SgtSasquatch on Jul 9, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
NO I'M JUST TENSE
YOU’RE NEW BUT I DON’T THINK ANYONE HATES YOU YET
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's always there....
but Montero has huge oppo-power which is huge for a RHH in Safeco.
Cliff Lee starting against the Yankees tonight???
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Deal may be off....
someone else may have jumped in.
Nice Mark Hamil Joker laugh.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
by JAH on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for Batman: The Animated Series reference!
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Jul 9, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Jack is fucking everyone!!!!
and he doesn’t apologize about it.
How is there a bigger bank to rob than the Yankees?
Or is Sherman blowing Smoak?
M's fan in PA, soon to be LA
Just FYI
jasoncollette
and so I hear Rangers’ GM Jon Daniels canceled his scheduled chat today cuz meetings running late. Hmmmm
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
SMOAK + HOLLAND SMOAK + HOLLAND AAAHHH
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
If we get Smoak
I’M SUCKIN’ SOME DICKS.
by wilsonpdx on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Maybe not.
M's fan in PA, soon to be LA
by perfectstrat on Jul 9, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think this is true, all things in a vaccuum
However, Smoak for the Mariners/Safeco (and not the Rangers) could > Montero
by SgtSasquatch on Jul 9, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
The real deal is going to be a long term deal with Lee.
Jack was going to do the deal, but then changed it up just to fuck with us.
Aaaaand we have officially entered Bedard territory.
END! END NOW!
You're dead to me.
by Goose on Jul 9, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The Bedard thing went for over a week.
by Eyebrows on Jul 9, 2010 12:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it's a thing where as Mariners fans the longer things drag out the more annoyed and scared we are for good reason.
When a deal is close to being done, damn it, get it done!
by BrettJMiller on Jul 9, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Jack Z. sits in a dimly lit cigar-smoke filled office.
by FairWeatherFred on Jul 9, 2010 12:55 PM PDT reply actions
I picture him
with a phone duct-taped to every orifice.
Just refreshed it again
THERE ARE NO NEW UPDATES
WAY AHEAD OF YOU CHIEF
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
LL's collective reaction throughout the day:
by w00tah on Jul 9, 2010 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 9 recs
Is this a Seattle game?
I see a lot of this kind of excitement during the Hydro races.
Ichiro had just sensually caressed her leg
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been waiting to see that!
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
How do I get a copy of that gif?
Where did you find that?
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
I tried that, but now I can't find the dang thing!
Little fucker is like Waldo!
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
So it wasn't just me....
that thought Ichiro touched her on purpose?
Immaculate Conception
resulting in Ichispawn?
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
SPAWN DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT FLAVOR OF DICTION TO IT
WE’RE TALKING A CHILD THAT IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST A DEMIGOD HERE
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I agr-, erm..I AGREE ENTIRELY.
I JUST WASN’T SURE HOW FAR TO STRAY FROM THE ORIGINAL ICHIBABY DESIGNATION. TO SKIP PAST THE SIMPLY UNNATURAL DIRECTLY TO THE SUPERNATURAL SEEMED SOMEWHAT UNNATURAL.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
HERACLES STRANGLED TWO SNAKES AS AN INFANT. I HARDLY SEE THE POINT.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU CAN HARDLY BLAME HIM FOR SUCH A SENSELESS ACT,
SINCE HE WAS STILL A SMALL BABY AT THE TIME.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
THE LATER ISSUES THAT LED TO HIS NEED TO REDEEM HIMSELF THROUGH LABOURS THOUGH
THAT WAS ANOTHER MATTER
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I have talked about making an ichinudes.com website
where I photoshop Ichiro’s head on ridiculous naked pictures.
by Patton on Jul 9, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON FOR POSTING A LINK IN ALL CAPS
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY WOULD YOU SEND ME TO A PAGE WITHOUT ALL CAPS
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
This is precicely how I would react if Ichiro touched me.
And I’m a 6’3" 200lb boxer.
by Smegmalicious on Jul 9, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
'He just..... texted me'?
Who texted you? Cliff Lee?
ITS WORKING
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 12:57 PM PDT reply actions
WE'RE GETTING MANNY RAMERIZ!
You're dead to me.
by Goose on Jul 9, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
WHY WOULD YOU SAY SUCH A THING
GOD
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
BECAUSE JACK IS FUCKING TEASING THE SHIT OUT OF ME.
FUCK NOW I’M DOING IT TOO.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
HEY GUYS WE'RE GETTING TIM HUDSON
OH WAIT NEVERMIND HIS NAME IS HORACIO RAMIREZ HAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
by Double06 on Jul 9, 2010 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I WANT TO KNOW WHO IS DOING THE FUCKING AND WHO IS THE BIG BITCH
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
If turning down the Yankees offer results in them backing out, Texas lowering their offer, and us getting stuck with crap I will fly to Seattle and burn whoever is holding the "In Z we trust" sign.
M's fan in PA, soon to be LA
But I am not sure there is any plausible way I could not only kidnap him but also get him to wear a Mariners uniform and have Major League Baseball accept that he is a Mariners player now.
Also, I’m just barely not sexy enough to get Jon Daniels to just trade him.
Before you do that, I demand a refund.
Fuck the Angels
by InSpokane on Jul 9, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What happens if it is a Lee for Porcello + deal?
Is that a better get than Montero?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
No...
My Mariners blog SodoMojo, My Twitter Feed
by Griffin Cooper on Jul 9, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
the reports are saying entered... Would that mean a completely new team, as in Det?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Porcello's start was canceled today
Porcello, Turner, Satterwhite or Oliver
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
So concerns about Adams' ankle eh?
Tell you what Yankees, why don’t we swap out Adams for Robinson Cano. As a gesture of goodwill, we’ll toss in Jose Lopez. That sound like a deal? Sure it does. Let’s do that.
Forget Adams
Just take Montero and McAllister and it’s a good deal. WTF, Z?
Just said on Brock and Salk that Olney emailed them to say that they wanted to swap out Adams
For someone else. Yankees think something else is in the works
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I HOPE THIS IS JUST YOU HAVING A GREAT POKER FACE JACK
THAT OR TEXAS OFFERING THEIR TEAM IN EXCHANGE FOR OUR TEAM
LMAO, nice find
I think Jack would have to accept that, wouldn’t he?
For those who can't listen to the radio (like me)
Brock and Salk’s 11AM podcast is up
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:06 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Here we go
Joel Sherman Joelsherman1
Hearing #Rangers are working really hard on #Lee now. Tricky because of finances with team sale not complete and MLB-imposed budget
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
PAY THE REST OF HARDENS SALARY FOR ALL I FUCKING CARE. JUST GET SMOAK AND HOLLAND.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
DON'T WORRY RANGERS WE'LL PAY HIS SALARY
JUST THROW MORE PROSPECTS AT US
My Mariners blog SodoMojo, My Twitter Feed
by Griffin Cooper on Jul 9, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS IS GOING TO BE WORSE THAN LAHAIR
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE
SMOAK, HOLLAND, PEREZ!!!
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Holland is currently on the DL...
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
TECHNICALLY YOU CAN TRADE PLAYERS ON THE DL
I DON’T REMEMBER WHERE I READ IT NOR DO I HAVE THE CURRENT FOCUS TO FIND THE ARTICLE THAT SAID IT.
JY, WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE SMOAK OR MONTERO FOR THE MARINERS?
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
REMEMBER TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT US HAVING SMOAK MEANS THE RANGERS NOT HAVING SMOAK.
THERE’S VALUE IN THEM LOSING RESOURCES WHILE WE GAIN THEM.
I APPRECIATE SMOAK ON THE MERITS OF SWITCH HITTING, GREAT PRESENT DEFENSE, AND FUCKING THE RANGERS
MCALLISTER IS AN INTERESTING PITCHER AS A SECOND/THIRD PART OF THE DEAL (THE OTHER GUY I’M KIND OF POSITIVELY MEH ON) BUT THE RANGERS HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BLOW MOST OTHER TEAM’S SECOND/THIRD PIECES OUT OF THE WATER AND EACH ADDITION THEREIN RUINS THE RANGERS’ CAPACITY TO COMPETE IN THE FUTURE WHILE INCREASING OURS.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
WOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
EXACTLY. THE RANGERS WERE THE TEAM THAT COULD HAVE ALWAYS HAD LEE AHEAD OF ANYONE ELSE IF THEY WERE WILLING TO GIVE UP THE GOODS.
I GUESS THEY’RE WILLING NOW.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
GOTTA LOVE THE 11TH HOUR CHANGE IN DEALS!
FINGER TO THE YANKEES SMOAK TO THE MARINERS! OH PLEASE OH PLEASE
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
SENTIMENTALITY MAKES ME WISH HE WAS GOING TO THE TWINS
AS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A WS IN THE TWIN CITIES RIGHT ABOUT NOW, BECAUSE MAUER AND MORNEAU ARE BOTH DESERVING PLAYERS. HOWEVER, WITHOUT ADEQUATE RETURNS FROM THEIR FARM SYSTEM IN SUCH A THEORETICAL EXCHANGE (RAMOS IS REDUNDANT WHEN WE SHOULD JUST BE PLAYING MOORE ANYWAY), I CAN’T GET BEHIND SUCH AN IDEA. ERGO, TALENT, AND POSSIBLY IN A WAY THAT HAMSTRINGS A HIGHLY DANGEROUS DIVISION RIVAL AND MAKES ~8 MILLION TYPE-A ENTITLED D-BAGS CRY AND WHINE (AND ON THE HEELS OF BEING SPURNED BY THE GENERATION’S GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYER)
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
SEE ABOVE!! RANGERS JUMPING IN!!!
SMOAK!!!!!!!!
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I HAVE HAD FOOD NEAR ME FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF AND EATEN QUITE LITTLE OF IT
PART OF IT IS THE HEAT AND PART OF IT IS THAT I AM CONTINUING TO TYPE THIS RIGHT NOW
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Guys, I'm scared.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON ANYMORE
by I Lick Squirrels on Jul 9, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions
ALL I NEED TO KNOW IS THAT I'M UPPITY ABOUT IT
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder
if there will be more posts in this thread than tonight’s gamethread?
by eponymous_coward on Jul 9, 2010 1:08 PM PDT reply actions
What's worse,
Bad Jesus name jokes or bad Smoak name jokes?
.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
by JAH on Jul 9, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
IF WE GET SMOAK, ENJOY PEOPLE RIPPING YOU OFF FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
by JAH on Jul 9, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE CLEVER AND PHOTOSHOPPED IT TO SAY SMOAK!
You're dead to me.
by Goose on Jul 9, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
NOT WORTH IT UNLESS WE GET HIM
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
by JAH on Jul 9, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
LOVE THIS!
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I DID WITH THE FIRST LEE TRADE
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I WAS AT URGENT CARE AND HAD NO CELL PHONE SERVICE
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I HAVE NO CELL SERVICE MOST OF THE TIME IN MY APARTMENT REGARDLESS
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I took a nap and when I woke up the Yankees deal was off.
I will never sleep again until Lee is actually traded.
by drblacknwhite on Jul 9, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
If we can give the Yankees the finger AND rape the Rangers farm...
This is so much more fun than LaBron.
GODDAMIT JACK I HAVE A BBQ TO GO TO! I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE DRINKING CURVE BALLS AND EATING HOT DOGS NOT HITTING Z OVER AND OVER
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
by JAH on Jul 9, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Curveball is made by Pyramid.
Great beer does not compute.
by Eyebrows on Jul 9, 2010 1:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I would say that it's their best beer but not great by any means
Mine kinda tasted like rubber last night.
For what it's worth,
I have fond memories of their Thunderhead IPA. Relentless cascade hops.
Thunderhead
was an early love, and got me on board with hoppy IPA’s. If I could find it I’d have a few out of nostalgia, but I agree it can be a little off-putting.
I really miss Red Menace from Hales.
Uh oh... beer thread in the middle of a Cliff Lee explosion
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I REGRET NOTHING
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
by JAH on Jul 9, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Good man.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
CURVEBALL WAS ONE OF THE ENTRY LEVEL BEERS WHICH I FOUND I COULD APPRECIATE ON A SIMILAR LEVEL TO FAT TIRE
SNOWCAP TOO. PYRAMID SEASONALS ARE NOT BAD, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE ARE FAR BETTER ONES AND FAR WORSE ONES
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree - Pyramid is a good entry-level microbrew that helps with the transition away from Bud, Coors, and the like.
But once you’re exposed to Deschutes, it’s hard to get back on the Pyramid train.
I DON'T THINK I'VE HAD A PYRAMID IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS
MY MOTHER STILL LOVES THEIR HEFEWEIZEN BUT I HAVE BEEN EXPOSING HER TO OTHER BEERS WITH GOOD RESPONSES TO THINGS LIKE WILCO TANGO FOXTROT AND HOP IN THE DARK. I’LL TAKE ALTERNATIVE SUGGESTIONS THOUGH IF ANY LOCAL BREWERY HAS A GOOD HEFE. IT’S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I CAN’T EXPECT HER TO GO OUT AND GET A 22 OF SOMETHING, YOU KNOW?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm guessing the Germans aren't a realistic possibility due to general inaccessibility?
Franziskaner, Hacker-Pschorr, etc.?
BASICALLY I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE FOUND AT A QFC ON A REGULAR BASIS
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
THEY ALL SEEM TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO STONE BREWS THESE DAYS AND USUALLY A ROGUE OR TWO
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
MY LOCAL QFC HAS RUSSIAN RIVER!!!
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
THE ONE ON 99 IN LYNNWOOD IS AWESOME
HAS OSKAR BLUES BREWERY BREWS, LEFFE, SKULL SPLITTER, LOTS OF NINKASI AND STONE, OLD RASPUTIN, DOGFISH HEAD, ETC. ETC.
Hmm.
Possibly Franziskaner, I’ve seen it at grocery stores from time to time. Would something like Hoegaarden be close enough? I have that at my Fred Meyer.
If you have a bad QFC, though, yeah, you’re probably stuck with Widmer or Pyramid.
It's not local,
but Magic Hat’s Circus Boy is one of the most delicious hefes I’ve ever had
I MIGHT CHECK IT OUT AS I CAN GET MAGIC HAT IN NYC
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
BABY STEPS?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Curveball isn't bad but it's certainly not hard to find
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 9, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
POOR BASTARD
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
by JAH on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK YO COUCH, STEINBRENNER!
If someone has the time to shop Z’s face onto Rick James, I’d be forever grateful.
It's turtles all the way down!
one more
Joel Sherman Joelsherman1
Hearing #Rangers are working really hard on #Lee now. Tricky because of finances with team sale not complete and MLB-imposed budget
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
oops
FrankiePiliere
I can confirm the report by @JoelSherman1 that the Rangers are making a major push for Lee. They appear to be the team jumping in late
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO CATCH WITH THAT OR NO?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
DAMMIT.... YOU WIN
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
NEW SERVER
THEY’RE LINKED UP WITH FANGRAPHS NOW
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
FANGRAPHS SERVER
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
KENJI HAS BACK SPASMS
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
KNOWING CHURCHILL, HE'S PROBABLY MADLY WORKING THE PHONES
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
In a coma.
Rosterbated too much.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Make a new thread before my computer blows up!
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
get ready for it to get crzy
SI_JonHeyman
#rangers 1 of a few teams jumping in with big snag in yankees/lee trade talk
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
LSB
http://www.lonestarball.com/2010/7/9/1560787/cliff-lee-the-saga-continues
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Which is why I cannot see Lee starting tonight
He is gonna be dealt. You don’t walk away because of Adams if you don’t have something better in the chamber
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh my but this is fun isn't it.
You all have been at this for a while. I just got up. Imagine how I feel. I feel like I’m going into a metaphorical insulin shock with all this rumor mongering.
Dare I say it? I think I’m getting Leeabetes.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT reply actions
Where's the caps lock boss?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
BOSS DON'T NEED NO CAPS LOCK, HE'S EXEMPT
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't see ANY way that Smoak isn't involved from Texas.
You don’t walk away from Montero if you don’t have Smoak in it.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
MST 3000!!
I love that show.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Minor tidbit
BloggingBombers : Same source: “It sounds like the Mariners want to get Lee traded before tonight’s game whether it’s the Yankees or not.”
THEY BETTER TRADE HIM BEFORE I TAKE MY NEXT DUMP.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I've decided I'm just going to take a dump and hope this happens while I'm on the toilet
[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]
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by I Lick Squirrels on Jul 9, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
be careful... it is Bowden
JimBowdenXMFOX
Texas Rangers have the budget to get Cliff Lee without needing approval from bankruptcy judge….Smoak and Scheppers could get Lee
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
who has been shut down twice in the last year for a knee and once for a shoulder/back?
Holland isn’t the perfect picture of health either
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I think I'm the only person in the world who doesn't really trust y'all's young pitching
I want bats.
by Graham MacAree on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be less likely to trust the Texas bats
just due to the hitting environment of Bakersfield, plus the Texas league in general for Frisco
Pitching might be underrated in a few spots
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Namely I don't trust Scheppers or Holland not to explode
by Graham MacAree on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
That is true with all SP prospects though
the injury risk is just so damn high in trades like this.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Sure
This means I want bats more than anything else.
by Graham MacAree on Jul 9, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
actually neither does Scheppers
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Scheppers has a messed up arm too.
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
I'm not sure how to feel about Scheppers...
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
BA has him 25 in their midseason
He is is AAA working on his change and being stretched out to be a SP right now
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
He has been getting Smoaked since he got put in the rotation
by seattlesundevil on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
he is throwing his change all the time in AAA as a starter
had a quote up from the last few weeks that he threw more Changes in that start than ever before in his career.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Are the Rangers allowed to trade Scheppers yet?
Is it a year from the draft or a year from the signing.
BREAKING NEWS VLADIMIR GUERRERO'S ASS STARTS MID BACK
I WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING SOCCER -- Jeff Sullivan
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BrockandSalk Hell yeah! RT @Buster_ESPN: Rangers are back on Lee. Hard to imagine Tex making this deal happen without Justin Smoak being part of the deal
Agreed.
There’s no way that you can back away from Montero unless Smoak is in the deal.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
WE'RE GETTING LEBRON JAMES!
You're dead to me.
by Goose on Jul 9, 2010 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That hits too close to home
I remember when Jeff Smulyan wanted to move the Mariners to Florida
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d_a_cameron
Woo! Smoak Me! RT @ed_price: An official of uninvolved team said that #Rangers now willing to put Justin Smoak in a deal for Cliff Lee.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
FUCK. YES.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 9, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Official of uninvolved team? Weird.
I fucking hate you Mariners
HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
ed_price An official of uninvolved team said that #Rangers now willing to put Justin Smoak in a deal for Cliff Lee. And don’t count out #Reds.
This is crazy
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
THIS IS AN EXTREME VERSION OF EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD HAPPEN.
JACK SAYS THIS IS MY OFFER TOP IT DANIELS YOU BITCH! NOW YOU TOP IT CASHMAN YOU BITCH! YOURE ALL MY BITCHES!
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 9, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
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