Open Deadline Thread
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 8:57 AM PDT
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Does DA get dealt?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I don't think he does.
Z isn’t going to have any interest in selling low and every team is going to want to buy low. I don’t see it happening.
by Mariner Melee on Jul 31, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably not
Although they’ve been showcasing him hardcore.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Even if he does get dealt, what do you get in return?
Nothing of value unless it’s a stupid team trading for him. Maybe a few stuffed animals and a box of baseballs
I liked the Padres' outfield already but, hey, depth
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry, Ludwick's awesome. You'll learn to love him.
Not quite Felix or Ichiro love, but still love nonetheless.
FUCK JON JAY
I WANNA TEAR HIS NUMBER RIGHT OF HIS LITTLE FUCKING UNIFORM AND THEN PUNCH LARUSSA IN THE FACE FOR BEING FOOLED BY HIS HOT STREAK
I literally don't know anything about Jon Jay
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
If I recall correctly
Cards need pitching, Ludwick is getting a raise next year, Jay/Craig is decent enough
As a writer you can lower your level of writing
and use this as material. (I lace creativity)
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that difficult to do?
I heard that kind of needle work is best left to professionals.
He's a fat white bald guy that thinks he is Michael Jackson
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's Leon Kompowsky, but I get what you're doing.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
That's how I know what you're doing.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
No one can fault you for that.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
I don't think outside of the Lee deal
they have dealt a top 20 prospect and have Lee (A), Francisco (A), Vlad (A), Oliver (A/B), Molina (A/B), Cantu (B/0) all being FA next year.
I would not be surprised to see Texas have 5 or 6 picks in the 1st and supplemental again
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
You think they're offering arbitration to all those guys?
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Will definately with
Lee, Francisco
the rest are maybes. But still Lee and Francisco are potentially 4 picks plus their own.
I would rank the likelihood of offering would go like
Cantu (if he makes class B) Oliver, Molina, Vlad, Guzman (forgot about him)
Depends on what happens with the ownership situation. Would still not surprise me to see 5 or 6 picks plus their normal allotment.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
They'll likely be exercising Vlad's option.
Molina and Cantu wouldn’t be offered arbitration. Molina made $4.5 million this year and Cantu made $6. Both would accept.
by superluminal on Jul 31, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Texas has not 1B or C
Texas offered Pudge last year and he declined.
Cantu might be better than what they could get on the open market.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
and yet he is one of the better options on the 1B FA market
Berkaman maybe?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I have a strong hunch that by midnight tonight Rob Johnson will no longer be a Mariner
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
He seems like the perfect dark horse candidate
Rob Johnson for generic A+ ball middle reliever
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
This is a proper term for his play
Think there could be a promo for it one night? Rob Johnson glove night where they give each fan a catchers glove with a gigantic hole in the middle?
If the Mariners like him, I think it's plausible that other teams may like him too.
Doesn’t mean they’re smart.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Trade Z trade!
So my irrationally trade happy brain can have something to waste time reading about.
I would be interested in seeing what he could get for himself
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
If we traded a manager, I imagine a GM deal isn't totally impossible.
Didn’t Loria “trade” for the Marlins for the Boston Red Sox somehow a while back?
by universalguru on Jul 31, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it was ownership rights
Or maybe I’m just crazy
by universalguru on Jul 31, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Look under Florida Marlins subtopic
It was a crazy change of ownership facilitated by MLB, that more or less traded the marlins for the Red Sox. I was wrong, Loria took the Marlins. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Loria
by universalguru on Jul 31, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Loria is a crazy bastard. At least he finally got that new stadium he wanted.
I honestly think that the Marlins will be able to have a better draw per game there than at Dolphin/Landshark/Pro Player. It’s just too far to drive for most people to go to a game.
I wasn't arguing whether a GM trade is possible or not.
Billy Beane once almost traded himself to the Red Sox for Youk.
Jayson Stark jaysonst
#Mariners still getting hits on Aardsma & League but asking for big-time prospects. “Not motivated to move them,” one source says. #trades
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
What does everyone think of the Snyder to Pirates thing?
by lailaihei on Jul 31, 2010 10:07 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
makes me wonder if it is the precursor to another Pit move
depends upon the amount of $$ coming to Pitt
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
This is the opposite of what I'm used to seeing the Pirates do
They usually get rid of everybody with any sort of value
Its basically shit for shit
League average players at best on each side. Bobby Crosby is horrible. I wonder about Arizona’s strategy these days although it does make sense to get rid of Snyder.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there anyone still left on the Diamondbacks worth the M's acquiring?
Would love it if the team could take advantage of that fire sale.
I'd swap Halman or one of our AA pitchers for him.
It’s hard to see someone offering more than that, though.
It's interesting to see the kind of drop in value Drew has gone through
But I guess for a family to have one really good player, one league average player and one brother who barely made the majors, not too bad
The diamondbacks lineup is probably way better than ours.
Justin Upton
Chris Young
Kelly Johnson
Stephen Drew
Matt Renyolds
Miguel Montero
Ian Kennedy
I’d take any of those guys.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe a couple of years ago Westbrook was good
But Ludwick is actually good.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
A for Padres, B+ for Indians, D for Cards.
by lailaihei on Jul 31, 2010 10:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The M's should trade for Manny
At least it would be interesting every day.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 10:16 AM PDT reply actions
This is the worst idea ever. Go wash your brain out with soap.
by abender20 on Jul 31, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Manny and Bradley
alternating in the OF and DH….
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Does everybody else feel like the Yankees are going to be unstoppable after this trade deadline?
I have never remembered the NYY using the trade deadline so much to fill all there little holes.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 10:17 AM PDT reply actions
They weren't horseshit before all this either.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Joelsherman1
#Rays have interest in Downs #Blue Jays, League #Mariners, but cost still high in relief market
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Anybody afraid GMZ's price for our RP is way too high
And we are going to lose out on any possible trades because other teams are willing to trade for less. There are only so many teams out there looking for RP and I feel like there are a lot of teams willing to trade RP.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
League is a very legit arm.
But his value, in other teams’s eyes, is probably low right now.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Who exactly is selling a reliever for less
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Qualls was having a really shitty year but it sounds like he was basically free
I guess I felt like the market for RP was lower than it might be. Maybe I’m wrong.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
League and Aardsma will be useful pieces going forward.
There’s no reason to give them away.
Any chance that Lopez gets traded?
Or is it better to hold onto him in and hope that he somehow gets more value between here and the next trade deadline?
I'm afraid Lopez has turned himself into a completely worthless pile of shit today.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Today = this year. It would have been impossible for him to destroy all his value in one day.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Not impossible.
I will spare you guys from some horrible broken leg picture.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
For what team? Because I'm pretty sure it won't be the Mariners.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Tacoma Rainiers.
He still has options, right?
by lailaihei on Jul 31, 2010 10:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope, he's into arbitration, and options are option YEARS, not like a set number of times you can option someone up or down.
He was brought up for the first time in ‘04, so I’m almost 100% certain he has no options.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
He was optioned in 05 but only 05 to my knowledge
Since his contract was purchased in 04
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
So barring arbitration weirdness he should still have two option years left
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Although I think it has been long enough since he has been optioned that the options can be used, but only with the player's consent
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
So in that case, no, he won't be optioned, because why would he accept that.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably not
Giambi agreed to be optioned to AAA Columbus in 2004 or 2005 if I recall correctly when he was deeply slumping, even after being a veteran free agent, so it isn’t unprecedented
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Ah, wait, he obviously declined
But there was discussion of it because it was possible
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Lopez still has less than 5 years service time so I think he can be optioned still.
by lailaihei on Jul 31, 2010 11:08 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
How is that possible?
all of 06-7-8-9, half of 2005, half of 2010, and a couple months of 2004
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
I'd be shocked if he still had options.
I don’t think they just stay there even through arbitration…pretty sure it’s not like one of those things where they stay there if you don’t use them. At a certain point I think they go away.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
For the Mariners.
We’re not going anywhere next year, and at first glance it doesn’t appear that we will be targeting any major free agents this off season. Might as well keep Lopez around. He can man second base until we call up Ackley. And hey, if Lopez does rebound, we can flip him for something shiny come summer.
No.
He’s a pile of shit and I would rather spend the money he’d be owed if we picked up his option to have Lady Gaga sing the national anthem at every home game.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe she could sing the anthem at some games
and maybe she could sing Just Dance during the 7th inning stretch at others
I am with you good sir.
I see no way Jack Z picks that option up. Too expensive, bad player. I’d rather see Ackley up in April, service clock or not.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I realize that the odds of competing in 2011 aren't high but starting Jose Lopez next year is the definition of punting a season
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
This is true.
I concede my argument in favor of keeping Lopez.
I dislike service time manipulation.
If the player is ready, he should be starting. And I also think there are options besides Ackley and Lopez.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Lopez had a bad approach last year, but still put up a good numbers.
The only things different this season are his BABIP and ISO. It seems conceivable that he could rebound to his prior levels of production. There’s value in that.
He had a bad approach, sure, but he had something resembling hitting ability, too.
He’s done and I am tired of watching him.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah there is no good reason he should have just had his BABIP and ISO fall apart this year
He’s not a good player and is a disappointment compared to what I thought he was going to be when he first came up but he’s not a useless player.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Disagree
And I am tired of his face and his play. I want him to go the fuck away.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I don't think ISO is really luck based. Especially when you consider his home runs were all pretty much fake home runs.
He’s crap these days…I have to agree that it’d just be a season punt if we were to play him significantly next year. I also don’t think paying him his $4.5 million option is smart at all. And I doubt he’d re-sign with us if we bought him out. Which, why would we do that anyway.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I want DA and League traded just so Brian Sweeney would be our closer.
by MFAN on Jul 31, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think he'll be here in a hurry
Organization seems to love him as a future closer.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
We're talking about Josh Fields right....
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah it was a horrible signing
But I thought he was realistically going to be a good RP. Drafting a RP in the 1st rd and having him suck is a double whammy.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember Dave before draft day.
In Fontaine I trust, but please, Bob, avoid the college relievers.
You got slurved!
LUEKE
Boy USSM mods are going to have fun with this.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
I've already seen some trouble
If Ichiro gets hounded for touching a girl’s leg while trying to get a foul ball, I can only imagine how amazing this will be.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Are you referring to the incident where the girl had to be bribed with goodies so she wouldn't sue?
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Why yes, yes I am.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
USSM comments usually give me a chuckle, but that guy was something else.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
just FYI it seems like the whole story is overblown from what I have heard
and the only reason why there hasn’t been a public retraction is that Lueke is still waiting on payments to him from the court settlement to complete
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Just having the word 'rape' involved is enough to set the internet ablaze
The internet cares little for details.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah remember the Rape of Nanking?
That shit was all over twitter
by Dewey N on Jul 31, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
A horrifying incident in human history.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Yeah let's end it while we still can.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/419339-seattle-mariners-dont-do-their-homework-on-josh-lueke
Milton Bradley is my hero.
Or GMZ did know and didn't care because he felt that Lueke is very talented and had a character change?
You got slurved!
Actually they didn't know, and had a "sit-down" with him in Seattle once they found out.
But I don’t think it really matters at this point
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't wait to upgrade my banhammer
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
that would be scary
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
This implies that it won't blind us or inflict physical pain
Can’t be too bad then right?
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Jeff is going to gain a level.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
when Jeff gains a level are their cool sound effect or animations involved?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Jeff doesn't lie.
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
So......Buhner is doing truck commercials?
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 10:43 AM PDT reply actions
Maybe we can deal Moore and Pineda for Slocumb?
The 97’ M’s could just take Brian Sweeney as a replacement.
by universalguru on Jul 31, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Pineda would have been eight years old
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Please keep your image heights under 300, please.
by katal on Jul 31, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
We have a time machine don't we?
I mean a 45 yo Buhner wouldn’t be so helpful either right?
by universalguru on Jul 31, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
jonmorosi
One interested party on price for #Mariners reliever Brandon League: “They’d move (him), but price may be hefty for what he is.” #TRADES
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Love this to death
Source: #RedSox inquired about at least 2 LH relievers today: #Rockies’ Beimel, #Nationals’ Burnett. Rockies’ asking price too high.
Joe Beimel!
Wrong sport.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Wait what sport involves zebras being traded?
Screw baseball- I’m becoming a fan of that
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
All I can think of is that old Budweiser ad with the zebra ref.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Drayer says a reliever is coming up.
shannondrayer I am told the #Mariners have a reliever on the way up from AAA. Do not know the corresponding move. Could be because of trade or need.
X
shannondrayer
I am told the #Mariners have a reliever on the way up from AAA. Do not know the corresponding move. Could be because of trade or need. less than 20 seconds ago via web
Shocked I say...
Jon Morosi jonmorosi
“Zero” going on with trade talks for Jose Lopez, source says. #Mariners #TRADES #MLB #Seattle
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Too bad the Cubs didn't need a RFer
Lilly and Theriot plus 2.5M for DeWitt and 2 minor-league pitchers. #Dodgers #Cubs #MLB
jonmorosi
Matt Tuiasosopo is coming to majors for #Mariners, because of injury to Lopez. #Seattle #TRADES
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Tui's getting demoted?
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a "Seattle is worse than Tacoma joke".
Doesn’t work well with Tui though.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
The city with MSM Deli is automatically better than the city without MSM Deli
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
The city that is Tacoma is automatically worse than the cities that are not Tacoma.
Also, I think you misunderstood because he was saying that he really did think that it was apt which meant that in his opinion he thought it was apt, and he was being funny as you were saying his opinion was false, and he was saying, hey, I really did have that opinion. That sentence was clearly of acceptable length.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I will never, ever understand why people hate Tacoma so much.
There are so many worse places in the state.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Bremerton
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Everywhere that's not Seattle or maybe Olympia, really
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
What do you see in Yakima?
Other than Miners.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
God I hate Spokane.
Boring as hell.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Yakima.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I love most places in the state, but every time I go to Tacoma it's usually a shitty experience.
Just not a fun place to be, in my opinion. I much prefer Spokane, Pullman, Ellensburg, Everett, Arlington, Darrington, Edmonds, Lynnwood, Whidbey, etc. etc. I don’t know why, but I just hate Tacoma, it always sucks when I go there.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Ellensburg is pretty.
Wouldn’t want to stay, but fun to pass through.
According to my calculations, your problem doesn't exist.
by the other side on Jul 31, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
There is no worse place that i have ever been to than Coulee City
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Tacoma has a better chance
to win on a nightly basis then the M’s? I back this up with zero knowledge of the how the rainiers have faired this season.
First place!
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Dave on FG chat:
“Morosi also reports that Matt Tuiasosopo is coming to Seattle. Lopez may be getting DL’ed. If they can’t trade him, at least this way they don’t have to play him. "
!!!!!!!!
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
jonmorosi
I’m also hearing the same thing as @shannondrayer — #Mariners have a reliever coming to big leagues. #TRADES #Seattle #MLB
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Watching Twitter in action is fun!
Here’s a tweet on Dan Cortes
NL East Scout had Dan Cortes at 96 MPH the other night, calling him “a completely different pitcher” — possible fast track?
Meh starter turned awesome reliever?
You got slurved!
8/1 K/BB and three hits allowed in 5.1 relief innings.
Small sample size, but waaaaaay better than his starting.
It kind of makes sense in a way because Cortes always had one inning each game where his command would go to shit.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
D'awwwwwwwwwwwww
shannondrayer
RT @ Blazersrule88 I bet they DL lopez and bring pitcher up. >>> Could be, but more likely Bradley if this is a DL situation
You got slurved!
craigcalcaterra
Heard this: the Orioles are talking about sending Brabender and Lund to the Seattle Pilots for Chico Salmon (not yet confirmed)
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I actually hate Tui more.
So far today has sucked.
by Eyeball Kid on Jul 31, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Some poor sap on the Fangraphs chat thought that when it was said,
“Sean White gone to Minnesota,” that that meant he was traded to Minnesota. Sad.
Milton Bradley is my hero.
Excellent Robert-baiting, Jeff:
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE BEST PRE-DEADLINE MOVES THAT’VE BEEN MADE?
Well, me, I really liked Texas getting Cliff Lee and Anaheim getting Dan Haren. But if you’re talking more historical…David Justice posted big numbers for the Yankees after coming over from Cleveland in 2000, and added a memorable playoff home run.
Rays.....
Ken Rosenthal Ken_Rosenthal
Hearing #Rays, #Dodgers on League. #MLB
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Homepage says there's an error, and TweetDeck keeps giving me an API message and won't load
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
It could just be your twitter account. Sometimes I'll have trouble with both Chrome Bird
and the Twitter iPod app at the same time. It usually works later though. The homepage works fine for me though.
Milton Bradley is my hero.
That's retarded
Why would one account fail?
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
whale fail?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Whoa the Yankees just got Austin Kearns and Lance Berkman.
And the weird thing is they aren’t all that good.
If only it was 2006
NYY fans would be stoked at the news…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Shannon says
Do not have confirmation.but hearing Smoak has been sent down.
must be to make room for Prince Fielder
Lopez and Aardsma for Fielder??? Hey it worked on MLB The Show
What the fuck Mariners?!?!
shannondrayer Do not have confirmation.but hearing Smoak has been sent down.
Good.
He was rushed and looks lost.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
His approach looked pretty good in Texas.
I don’t get why it’d just be lost coming to Seattle…it’s just a SSS issue I think. Plus, how can he learn to hit MLB pitching in AAA? It just seems silly.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The Mariners really don't want me to watch a single game for the rest of the season, do they?
Smoak down, Sean White and Tui up?
(note: it might be a good thing for Smoak’s development, not denying that)
Atleast we still have Rob
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't mind particularly.
It’s known that he was promoted quite aggressively.
Plus this means we get to see more of Mike Carp in left field.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Let the hilarity ensue.
He’ll be flopping around like a dead fish out there.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 31, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He had an outfield assist the other day!
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Hahahaa Dave
Dave Cameron: If i was an MLB player on the trade block, I’d spend my whole day screwing with reporters.
2:16 I’d start randomly packing my things, hugging people…
2:16 Ask someone to google “apartments in Queens” for me.
You got slurved!
Jayson Stark jaysonst
If #Mariners trade Brandon League, doesn’t look as if it’s to #Rays. Hearing Tampa Bay unlikely to make another deal today. #trades
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Maybe I just don't really see it
But what makes Brignac that desirable?
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a cost-controlled, ~league average SS with a fair amount of upside
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Does he have that much upside and why would he be a league average SS?
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He's very good defensively
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
If that matters
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
He has a fair amount, sure. He's young and has always hit well in the minors.
As far as why he’s league average, well, he’s been worth 1.5 wins in 77 games this season and his numbers in the minors suggest that it’s not a fluke.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah i'm splitting hairs. He is probably 1-2 WAR
I don’t think his minor league numbers really help you point much. All his high minor numbers aren’t too impressive
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
He can't be any worse than Jack and Josh
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
He's been a league average hitter every year in the minors save one and is an average-slightly above average defensive SS.
He’s not going to set the world on fire offensively, but he’d be an enormous upgrade for this team.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
What a boring deadline!
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions
there is still time...
Jayson Stark jaysonst
#Mariners getting lots of hits on League but price hasn’t come down enough to predict he’ll move. Latest team on him: #Marlins #trades
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Sigh.
shannondrayer Smoak down Bradley to the DL White and Tui up #Mariners
Official
Dave Cameron:
Alright, Mariners transactions, per Shannon Drayer: Smoak to AAA, Bradley to DL, Tui and White to the majors.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
and yet I have been a member of LOL longer than you have...
whats your point exactly?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
always have
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
ohh well
all my degrees are in advanced mathematics and I am extremely dyslexic… Shocked I get spelling and punctuation as close as I do
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
interesting timing on sending down though
seems a little odd…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Pretty sure Zduriencik is just fucking with us
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 31, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
that aint cool if true
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
saw that
wonder how much Clev will eat to get that done
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
They have money left over from not signing LeBron.
You got slurved!
by Slurvey on Jul 31, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
thats cold man
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Well played.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 31, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
cause Boras didn't tell him
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I was hoping the Reds would deal for him so Dusty Baker could finish breaking him once and for all.
Or, Jim Leyland and the Tigers would have been a good option, given Jose Valverde’s 60-pitch save last night.
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by thehemogoblin on Jul 31, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Most interesting note of this entire trade deadline
Ken Rosenthal Ken_Rosenthal
#WhiteSox believe #Nats are using them to drive interest in Dunn. Nats had asked for Beckham. No discussions, to repeat, in days. #MLB
Nats screwing with CHW to drive the price for TB?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Maybe the Nats have an insatiable appetite for a Beckham shortstop and don't care which of the two teams he comes from.
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by thehemogoblin on Jul 31, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Mariners and Rainiers play a best-of-5 series, who wins right now?
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 31, 2010 12:34 PM PDT reply actions
Mariners, since they've taken most of the Rainiers decent players at this point.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
It's a best of five series and we put Felix against Pineda and wade out the rest.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
THAT would be fun to watch though
Felix v. Pineda
Imagine that, dual no-hitters.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 31, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
And then the rest of the series, oh boy.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jcrasnick
Just heard Seattle has approached Atlanta about a Chone Figgins deal. M’s would have to eat a lot of the $$$
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Der?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
doubt it will happen
could be a gage of interest for Aug?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Suprise!
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting?
Heyward!
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 31, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
kinda what I figured
jcrasnick
If Figgins doesn’t get moved by deadline, he would still be a candidate to get traded in August because of that contract #trades
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Mike Minor!
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't he come out of college with quality off-speed pitches?
Those are death to people in the low minors, but real hitters are more adept at dealing with them.
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by thehemogoblin on Jul 31, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
His fastball as gone up to the 91-94 range
and everything else has improved.
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
you'd want value for him but I can't imagine somebody giving enough value to make it worthwhile for us
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Not really
If we could give him away without eating too much money it would work out great
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a good player in a bad slump
I feel like we’d benefit more by just keeping him and hoping he rebounds than by trading him for slightly interesting AA pitcher or something
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
I especially don't want to trade him until he give him a shot at third
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
I'd rather just hit the undo button and pretend like it never happened
This year confirmed by fears about having Figgins in that I don’t understand how he is a MLB hitter. He probably rebounds but I’m just scared he could be a bit of a bust.
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd agree completely if we had a single other player interrnally to replace him
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
I don't think Mangini's good enough to replace him and Liddi and Triunfel aren't ready yet.
And I think the consensus around the M’s blogosphere is that Jose Lopez should be taken to the glue factory. So, I think taking a shot on Figgins bouncing back is still Seattle’s best shot.
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by thehemogoblin on Jul 31, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather get rid of Aardsma than League
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 31, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Who you think we is goign for ?
Jon Heyman SI_JonHeyman
he was asking price for hart or bautista. interesting. RT @hankschulman J. Sanchez seen hugging Giants in dugout? Say it ain’t so
Bautista is my guess
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
JAC
Just received a text saying that Seattle could be very close on something, but might run out of time.
You got slurved!
Go Dave
Jason A. Churchill ProspectInsider
Just received a text saying that Seattle could be very close on something, but might run out of time.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
err Churchill
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
You got slurved
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 31, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
what would lead to a bigger meltdown
Figgins moved to Atl or Manny to Sea?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I would actually kind of like Manny just because entertainment.
But we already have Bradley so…
Milton Bradley is my hero.
I think Brady vs. Manny would be worth the price of admission
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
depends if this is a with or without needles fight
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Yes, my child?
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by thehemogoblin on Jul 31, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
typical dodgers...
JIM BOWDEN JimBowdenXMFOX
Octavio Dotel traded to Dodgers for James McDonald
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Uh....
jonmorosi: Hearing same as #SF reporters … Lopez to #Giants. #TRADES
Jose? Please be Jose!!!
Must be all the coffee.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 31, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotta get some Dayton Moore action in here.
The Braves have acquired outfielder Rick Ankiel and reliever Kyle Farnsworth from the Royals, CBSSports.com has learned
and they got junk in return
ed_price
Royals get P Jesse Chavez, OF Gregor Blanco and P Tim Collins from #Braves for Farnsworth and Ankiel as CBSSports.com reported.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I wouldn't say thats junk
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Its probably fair
Farnsworth and Ankiel are not good
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Close enough.
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 31, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Mariners get even worse while the First Place Padres get a nice player for cheap
It’s a brave new world.
looks like the Rangers made one more deal
Ken Rosenthal Ken_Rosenthal
#RedSox get Saltalamacchia #MLB
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Baker tweeted that Atlanta approached US about Figgins...
…and that we turned them away?
by flashbeak on Jul 31, 2010 1:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Why would we want to sell this low?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 31, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
How much of Figgins contract do you think we were asked to cover?
by Edgar for Pres on Jul 31, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter, there's reason to believe he's still a valuable asset.
This year sucks but I haven’t lost faith that he’ll be good for us.
by BrettJMiller on Jul 31, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
If Atlanta comes and offers next to nothing and asks Z to eat salary, he did the right thing.
If Atlanta comes and offers Jason Heyward, he did the wrong thing.
Since we have no idea what was discussed, let’s just go ahead and freak out everywhere.
Frustrating but not too surprising
We didn’t have much that we wouldn’t be selling low on.
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