OTDOD - 072002010 Style Edition
One of the benefits of a horrible Mariners team is that everyone flocks to the OTs. This is also a bad thing, in that someone has to keep churning out the diaries to keep the machine running. So here's some prompts, based on a couple observations from my deliberately boring life.
The new guy at my work has a small USB symbol tattoo on his upper arm.

via www.maximumpc.com
This obviously gives him his geek credentials, and may or may not be an initiation into some secret society of people that worship external storage. Still, much cooler in my eyes than the "Shore Special" (tribal armband) that my boss has.
Anyways, here's some prompts!
1) Do you have any tattoos? If so where and what? If not, any reasons (or lack thereof)?
2) What's your style? Do you associate yourself by a brand, type of clothing, or class of people when you dress?
3) What things can you find on your person at all times, regardless of situation?
4) Do you have something that you own for sentimental reasons that nobody would think has value?
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Self-Answers!
1) Nope, no tattoos for me. I do find them fascinating, and if I ever find anything that I want on my body for the rest of my life, I’ll take the plunge myself.
2) I was always adamant that I didn’t have a style, but according to everyone I know I dress like a 50’s union worker, down to the Dickie’s shirts and workman pants/cargo shorts. I guess that’s my style.
3) Wallet, keys, phone, etc are all standard, but I also keep sunglasses with me at all times, and recently a pen and notepad. As good as the voice notes on my Blackberry are, I still prefer to keep things written down, as much to not look like a doof recording notes as to be more accurate with said notes.
4) I keep a 10 cent pen on my desk from my (deceased) Dad’s tree business. Nobody is allowed to touch or use it, and when I leave for the day it gets placed into my locked drawer with my Post-Its and scissors and other things that tend to disappear from desktops. It still has the little bit of wax from the manufacturing process on the tip.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
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1) Can’t. Jewish.
2) If anything it would be high school preppie, but otherwise no. I wear jeans from American Eagle (they always fit well), and long sleeve shirts under short sleeve shirts that I get from shirt.woot.com
3) Cell phone, keys, wallet, tissues, maybe dog poop bags and receipts.
4) I think almost everything I own I own for sentimental reasons. I have literally shelves and boxes of useless items I couldn’t sell for a dollar that I keep in my apartment.
...and now I'm here
Really?
I didn’t even know that one. In fact, a couple of friends of mine label themselves as Jewish and have tattoos. Is it a particular subset of Jews that have that restriction, or are my friends just ignoring the parts they don’t like?
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
It's against the Jewish religion.
That said, it is a religion with no hell and generally lax rules outside of Orthodox Judaism, so tattoos on Jewish men and women is not going to be that uncommon. Sort of like how I don’t eat with Kosher dishes even though I probably should, because really no one gives a shit. Hope that helps.
...and now I'm here
Also, now that tattoos can be removed, they're not considered permanent, which was the reason they were against the religion in the first place.
So I could see a valid argument that they are no longer taboo, even within the more religious community.
...and now I'm here
Hey look
Jeff makes an appearance on techcrunch
Just thought I’d share, sorry if I don’t fill out your survey thing.
It's not required. More than anything it's to see how long it takes us to go from tattoos to beer.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Am I missing something? I see nothing mentioning Jeff?
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
His name is in one of the pictures.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
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1)I have an anchor with a dolphin wrapped around it on my shoulder, renaissance era woodcut style. It was Aldus Manutius’ printer’s mark. Have a plan for another.
2)I hate the idea of brand loyalty. However, funny story: Diesel currently has this ‘Be Stupid’ ad campaign where they have pictures of blazing hot hipsters doing dumb shit and text urging consumers to be ‘stupid’. The subway stop at W 4th has a long underground passageway lined with these print ads all the way, and someone took the trouble of making stickers that look just like Diesel price tags, complete with absurd prices on them, which they pasted right below the ‘be stupid’ slogan. Awesome
3)passport
4)I try not to attach sentimental value to objects. Probably I have some of my daughter’s baby things which are worthless.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 6:35 AM PDT reply actions
They remind me of the BBC show Nathan Barley
where a journalist wrote a piece making fun of ‘the idiots’ ie hipsters and they thought it was awesome new slang and ran with it.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
That show is hilarious
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
As is anything Chris Morris is involved with.
Including the most complained about show in British TV history. Well, up until Jerry Springer the opera came along.
by Eyeball Kid on Jul 21, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Link forwarded to everyone I like
thanks for that
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Answers!
1. Nope. Like Faux, I just haven’t found the right thing yet, but when I do I’ve got no problem with getting a tattoo.
2. My style is to always wear clothes. Beyond that, nothin’.
3. Eyes, ears, fingers, toes. And a wallet.
4. Nope. I’m not a keeper of things, really.
Please keep sidebar posts off topic.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
It's hard to pinpoint.
We were all set to have an awesome night, well stocked with all kinds of good booze. But things got off to a bad start when the 10 year old case of Griffdawg Ice we meant to have as a last resort backup ended up being the first thing people went for. Just because you liked it in high school doesn’t mean its still good, you know.
Then someone went and dropped the growler of Unibroue Main Gauche. Things went down hill from thete.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget how we consumed that Mike Sweeney box wine.
It was suprisingly not absolutely terrible, but we woke up the next day with back pain.
by Ballard Erik on Jul 21, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Answers.
1. I love tattoos, but don’t have any myself. I still haven’t found the thing I want to have on my body for the rest of eternity. My wife has seven, and I love the way they look on her.
2. I dress however I feel. Most of the time you’ll find me in jeans and t-shirts. However since I lost 35 pounds, I’ve found that dressing up is more fun when I don’t feel fat and disgusting.
3. Unless I’m wearing pajamas, I can always find my keys, wallet, and cell phone on my person.
4. Nope. I’m not much of a sentimental person.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 21, 2010 7:30 AM PDT reply actions
Oh my god.
I love it. If you were stuck doing this everynight wouldn’t you be tempted to make this? I love that the green pony is playing Elphaba in Wicked.
Answers!
1) No tats for me
2) I don’t have a classified style. I just wear whatever I think looks good. I would classify it as normal, but what do I know?
3) Phone, keys, wallet. And to a lesser extent a computer. I take it everywhere.
4) My 3 Mariners hats.
M's fan in PA, soon to be LA
Answers?
1. I have none. I always say I am going to get an R Rainier style on my back, but I have never done it. I am not sure if it is because my last name begins with R, or because Rainer is my choice when I have a feeling that I must get drunk for $5.00.
2. Whenever possible, I wear adidas warm up pants. So I look like a South Beach Jew/ late 80s drug dealer/ junior high gym teacher on my spare time. However, my self imposed work uniform is polo shirt and kakhis. So I got that going for me.
3. Phone, Keys, Wallet, Gum.
4. I have my grandfather’s watch. It is a cheap piece of shit, but it belonged to my grandfather, so I keep it.
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1) I am not a very big tattoo fan and thus don’t have any but I’ve toyed with the idea of getting ECS’s motto “No Equal” tattooed into my upper left shoulder.
2) I don’t really have a style but I like wearing stuff from American Eagle
3) Cellphone, Wallet, Keys, Sunglasses
4) I keep the ticket stubs for the first Mariners, Seahawks, Huskies and Sounders games that I ever saw.
Someone on the inside reveals that he doesn't have a hard-on for 3D?
This is actually big news. I hope they get their way, I’m ready for it to be over.
Except for gaming, 3D COD will be what brings me over the edge to buying one.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
After IMAX Inception I agree
even in the front row. By the way, what’s the worst – the worst – way to watch trailers? IMAX first row. May as well just stick a finger down your throat.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Getting stuck front row, far left at IMAX 3D of Avatar, I couldn't believe they even had seats there.
They were so pointless. You couldn’t make out anything.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Answers!
1) Getting mine this summer after I get back from Hawaii. Wife and I are getting semi matching tattoos but I’m getting the Hawaiian word for “Unity” tattooed on the inside of my wrist.
2) Generally Quicksilver, Volcom, Billabong type stuff.
3) Phone, Wallet, Camera
4) I have a ton of little things.
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1. I have two tattoos. The first one I got last summer, 5 of us got “Be True” tattooed on us on a drunken day at Venice Beach. It’s more of a jokey thing from college than actual life lesson to “Be True” The other tattoo says WAZZU with the Cougar logo in place of the A. I love tattoos and if given the money and opportunity would probably have a lot more. Be True is on my shoulder blade, Wazzu runs down the side of my calf.
2. Don’t try to go for any style, but since moving to LA I do try to dress nice – button up shirts, polo’s, nice jeans.
3. Nothing on my person outside of the usual stuff.
4. Can’t think of anything that jumps out right away. Probably some of my DVD’s that make no sense at all other than I loved that movie when I was a kid and it really wasn’t very good. (Popcorn, Dolls, Slumber Party Massacre.. really, really, bad horror.)
Answers!
1) Not a one… I hate needles and I don’t see the point of tattoos. The one way that I will get one is if / when ASU football wins a national championship, or the Mariners win a world series. From where things stand now, I have a ways to go.
2) American Eagle when I actually buy clothes. But not the douchey “hey, my pants have holes in them” jeans and whatnot , I can guarantee that much. Flip flops are a mainstay, and a mariners hat.
3) The aforementioned flip flops, and the holy triumvirate… Wallet, Keys, Cell Phone.
4) On my desk I have a finger painted picture from my daughter with scribbles, two handprints and mom-written “Love You Daddy!” on it. Probably pretty worthless, but it’s the only thing on my cubicle wall for a reason.
Oh, and I answered 2 – 4 in the poll. That seems to be the sweet spot.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 8:20 AM PDT reply actions
If ASU wins a national football championship I will have to get "RIP Mrs. PDB" tattooed on my chest in Latin script
for she will have hung herself.
Yep.
1.No tattoos yet. I’m not adverse to getting one, I just have no idea what it would be and where.
2.75% of the time, I look like a cleaned up typical metal head.
3.Typical stuff. Wallet, keys, phone, ipod touch.
4. A rubberband ball, about the size of a softball. My grandpa started making it about 10 years ago, and when he died in 2003, I got it. I still add to it every once in a while.
You're dead to me.
Answers
1) No tattoos, no plans to get one either.
2) Outdoor apparel for the most part. REI, North Face, and Marmot seem to make up a good deal of my wardrobe now.
3)Wallet, phone, multi-tool
4)Not really, no.
Personal questions today!
1.) Yes. Four. The alphabet wrapped around my forearm, and then a few others having to do with my family/places I’m from that are also about Modest Mouse and Planes Mistaken For Stars.
2.) Blue jeans and band shirts when I’m not at work.
3.) Wallet and cell phone. I’m amazed by people who leave their apartment without either.
4.) Hell yeah, tons of shit. I can’t throw anything away. Makes moving a bitch.
I always regret it when I leave my phone behind...
I’m too used to having internet available at any given second.
So
places I’m from that are also about Modest Mouse
you piqued my interest. Would you care to elaborate?
by Ballard Erik on Jul 21, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
The "places I'm from" has more to do with the meaning behind the PMFS tattoo on my ribs.
i have two Modest Mouse tattoos. I got a large hot air balloon tied to an anchor (see: Good News, We Were Dead) on my arm. I put the name of one of my dad’s Navy ships on the anchor and a red cross over the balloon for my mother, the nurse.
God I always feel nerdy explaining tattoos. Usually when people ask me in person I just tell them I “lost a bet” to save the awkward conversation.
My tattoo explanation is super nerdy
Most of the time I tell people I was a gay sailor and leave it at that.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I like that sailors are the one type of person that can just be gay for a little while.
Well, that and prisoners I suppose.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
How else do you explain this (sans letters)?

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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Just say you used to be a dolphin hunter
Then quickly laugh so they can’t tell if you’re being serious or not. Then walk away.
It's cool
I just tried to explain WAR and the dollar value of a win to one of my work colleagues.
by Ballard Erik on Jul 21, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Look at me!
1) No. To me, they’re like permanent bumper stickers for your body. People can see them and read them and judge you, but you aren’t going to get any sort of positive message across with them. They can have special meaning for some people, and that’s cool, but I don’t feel the need to permanently brand myself with anything, even if I like it a lot.
2) I just go for looking good and decently fashionable but not quite to the point where someone may mistake me for a gay. My Skull Jeans (5507xx 6×6) are a mainstay, and I love Adidas sneakers. I like 3/4 length sleeve and short sleeve hoodies. For formal situations, my H&M jacket is a mainstay, and I love Express for shirts and pants.
3) Aside from the usual wallet/keys/phone, a coin purse and a 4GB usb drive that I keep tucked in my fifth pocket.
4) Not all that much, and nothing I want to talk about here haha.
My instinct is to comment
that carrying a coin purse isn’t going to help with avoiding being confused “for a gay” but I won’t because I don’t even know gay people that carry a coin purse.
by Matthew on Jul 21, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
You could keep cool shit in it like a Swiss army knife or pushpins
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 21, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have never assigned any sort of emotional weight to a pushpin
Utilitarian, sure, but cool? maybe the colorful ones or something.
Sometimes the man on the go needs to pin some shit up
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 21, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm old school, I still use tape for my on the go securement needs
by pdb on Jul 21, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Aren't you venerable folk just supposed to be using spit and elbow grease?
That stuff sounds adhesive
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can see the spit if you do it right, but "grease" is right in the second one.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I'm newer school than that
I save my spit for hobos and my elbow grease for busy sidewalk spots where people can slip on it.
I'm pretty sure pushpins and their ilk are older school

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 21, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Large pushpins.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
It didn't say that you had to push with your thumbs.
It’s not like we’re talking thumbtacks here.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Nails are the General Sherman of pushpins
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 21, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
More Centurion.
General Sherman is more like a pneumatic staple gun.
Fuck the Angels
How sure are you?
tape is basically just advanced glue and glue’s been around forever.
Then again, the concept of a nail is fundamental.
Whereas my instinct is to say that there's nothing wrong with being confused with someone who's gay
Especially not on the basis of having good fashion sense.
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm generally flattered whenever anyone looks at my clothes and thinks that I'm gay
It’s among the highest compliments.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 21, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Coin Purse isn't helping the fact I still think you're a woman.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
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1) Do you have any tattoos? If so where and what? If not, any reasons (or lack thereof)?
I have 6 and am always looking for my next one.
2) What’s your style? Do you associate yourself by a brand, type of clothing, or class of people when you dress?
I try refuse to wear anything with a brand or designer’s name blazened across it. I keep it simple, I pretty much wear a white button down shirt and jeans for everything. You can pretty much never go wrong with this combo. Need to dress it up just a bit? Add a sport coat! Need to dress it down? Untuck it! Too hot? Trade jeans for khaki shorts and sandals!
3) What things can you find on your person at all times, regardless of situation?
I have extremely light sensitive eyes so I live in fear of not having a pair of sunglasses with me.
4) Do you have something that you own for sentimental reasons that nobody would think has value?
I have a 12-string guitar that my dad gave me that he bought it before I was born. While it has normal guitar value to other folks, it has way more awesome-times-with-my-dad value to me. If my apartment was burning down, it’s the one thing I would risk saving. Well, that and a pair of sunglasses
I love that look but am a slob
so I usually go with a darker color than white in case gravity and I get into a fight over that delicious cup of hot chocolate or that fry loaded with ketchup.
Yeah, I've definitely lot's a couple to my one slobbiness
But it makes shopping for replacements way easy!
oh yeah, where and what...
I’ve got a couple of dumb tattoos from when I was 20ish. The dumbest being that devil dude from the inside cover of the first Porno for Pyros CD. The other dumb one is a tribal arm band. Give me a break, we all make mistakes. I like animals so the rest are all, uh, animals. Shark, eagle and dragon. My advice to anyone getting a tattoo would be “Go ahead, but make absolutely fucking sure that you’ll want it in 10 years.”
I'm personally comfortable with my tattoos or else I wouldn't have gotten them. But I rarely think they are a mistake, unless you get them on your forehead or were completely wasted when you got it.
It’s just like, get over it. If someone doesn’t like my tattoos, screw em. There’s no business I could be in where a tattoo would interfere. Though its easier for guys – I wear a shirt and tie to work, so I’m mostly covered. If a girl gets a tattoo, it almost has to be a tramp stamp. Probably why they’re so popular.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I've found that girls can usually get away with the usual guy spots, as well as front hip and bracelet.
But I work with a lot of 30ish “party in their younger days” types, so there’s a large tattoo contingent.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I'm all zen and shit with them now
But there was a period where I wished I had something different. I realized it was a waste to worry about it so now they’re just lessons for me to remember to think shit through.
My wife is debating getting a tattoo that goes all the way up her left arm
but the nice thing about living in Portland is that even in her staid corporate office, nobody would give a shit.
My policy tattoo wise is to not look for something but wait until I see an image I know I want
then I carry it with me everywhere for a year at least. If after a year I still think its a good idea then I get it done. So far, only one but I’m a month and a half away from the second.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Here we go!
1. Just one, the Croatian coat of arms on my right upper arm. My dad moved to USA when he was 6… we got matching tattoos 2 years ago.
2. Don’t think I really have a style. Jeans, t-shirt. Sometimes a polo. Sometimes shorts. Sometimes a hoodie. Whatever’s comfortable and fits the weather.
3. Can’t live without my wallet, phone, camera, iPod, and change in my pocket. My pants get really heavy.
4. Not particularly… no kids or deaths in the immediate family, so nothing really sentimental.
Funny story.
I saw on another OT that you are in Zagreb right now… so am I. We work in the same building… small world, huh?
The Embassy?! Did you just get there?
What section do you work in? If you’re someone I know I’m going to feel like a real dumbass. Like even more dumbass than spelling lot’s when I meant lost.
I've been here since June 14... summer intern. I go back to Seattle on Sept 21st.
Right now I’m in MGMT/GSO… on Monday I go up to POL/ECON for the rest of the time.
Croatia LL meetup!
We’ve gone international.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Speaking of LL meet ups
I’ll be in the Portland/Seattle area end of August/beginning of September. I’d love to finally meet up whatever LLers are around then, even though I’m more of a lurker. I’ll make a separate post about it though as it gets closer.
Thank you sir!
You can find me in the cafeteria, eating whatever delicious meal Julius cooks up for the day, around 12:00 usually. It’s too bad my Ichiro-designed t-shirt doesn’t quite fit in with the State Department’s dress guidelines.
Can anyone also explain to me why people are allowed to be named Jimmy Johnson
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean
Because I refuse to read books.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
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1) I have a tattoo of a mountain that I could see from my childhood home with a big larch tree on my right calf.
2) I try to keep my clothing very simple. When I’m relaxing I wear jeans and tee shirts, preferably a V-neck shirt. At work simple black or gray suit with white shirts or well fitting slacks with simple striped shirts.
3) Phone, wallet and keys.
4) My Grampa’s 30-30 riffle from the 1920’s, old worn-out mountaineering boots that would fall apart if wore them in the mountains and they smell terrible. An old back pack that I had from my 20’s when I spent every other week backpacking.
Fuck the Angels
Answers! Answers? Answers.
1) Do you have any tattoos? If so where and what? If not, any reasons (or lack thereof)?
I have a yellow submarine on my upper-left arm.
2) What’s your style? Do you associate yourself by a brand, type of clothing, or class of people when you dress?
Jeff might dislike it, but I spend a lot of money at Brooks Brothers. And the Mariner/Seahawks/Sounders team stores.
3) What things can you find on your person at all times, regardless of situation?
My cell phone, wallet and billfold.
4) Do you have something that you own for sentimental reasons that nobody would think has value?
The trick to this question is that whatever the sentimental object is, I must value it a lot. As such, it’s difficult to imagine others seeing it as worthless. I’m stumped on this one.
Brooks Brothers makes great suits.
Fuck the Angels
They really do!
Not that I can ever justify throwing a grand at them for one of their suits. I have resolved that it will be my thirtieth birthday present to myself, though.
I have two, two and Hickey Freeman and one cheap Alfani
Fuck the Angels
I really like Thomas Pink.
Fuck the Angels
I've been curious about Thomas Pink for a while but can't get past John W. Nordstrom and Brooks Brothers shirts
What do you like about them?
They fit me really well, the 200 yarn count feels like it will last a long time, and the collar nice and stiff.
Fuck the Angels
For dress shirts, you might also want to give Charles Tyrwhitt a try.
I’ve been happy with their products. You have to order their products online (they’re based out of England), but it’s still a good deal.
I prefer Citizens of Humanity and levi.
Fuck the Angels
Levi's are awesome.
I’d never buy a pair of designer jeans for more than $50 unless it’s high quality selvage denim tho.
They are worth it. They fit better and they are heavier and will last three times longer.
Just avoid crazy pocket embroidery you’ll look silly ten years from now.
Fuck the Angels
I have two pair of Citizens of Humanity. They are heavy and strong and have lasted five years.
If you buy the over washed ones you lose quality.
Fuck the Angels
I used to wear Citizens and AG jeans when I worked in a jeans store.
Citizens last pretty long, but they do tend to rip in the crotch after a few years. Obviously not for you though!
Also, as someone who (because of said jeans store) has about 30 pairs of jeans
I can say my favorites are Diesel, Citizens “Fay” and AG “Legend”.
I like Guess and Seven jeans
But since I typically only have a couple of pairs at once and I wear them constantly, they don’t last too long.
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
They're not cheap anymore
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Foreign Labor!
M's fan in PA, soon to be LA
by perfectstrat on Jul 21, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate the feel of the denim on them
The cut’s ok, but I don’t like sanding my own legs on the inside of my pants.
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
My oldest pair of Diesel is about as old as the pair of Levi's that now has holes in the knees and is reserved for wearing while mowing the lawn.
Diesel holds up pretty well.
I really don't like Diesel and Citizens cuts and most of their washes are pretty ugly.
And the quality and strength of them can’t compete with good selvage denim.
I hate Diesel
but I only wear Viker jeans.
Also, you may be interested to know that tey will patch up any holes for I think 10 bucks. They do an amazing job of it.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
You know things are going wrong when... (Not a Photoshop)
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 8:58 AM PDT reply actions
Hmm.
Thats not photoshops fault that the photographers fault for being lazy.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
You already turned.
I miss my moral compass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
If that's not a screenshot, that's an amazing moment to catch with a camera.
Still amazing with video too of course.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
In the story, it says it was a camera
But that could have gotten misinterpreted, I think.
If there is video, I must see video.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmm
1) No tattoos. Never had any interest, and now they would just start to sag. The only one in the family belongs to my 18 year old niece; on her wrist, replicating in script the quote she used to write there in pen when her Grandmother was going through chemo
2) The only attention I pay to brands is if I find a pair of jeans that actually fit.
3) Wallet, walkman and phone? mostly?
4) My entire over-full apartment?
That's a pretty cool tattoo on your niece's part.
It’s hard to say “I like the story behind it” without risking misinterpretation, but really, it’s pretty cool of her.
Meh?
1) Nope. Nothing ever seemed appropriate, which bypass the whole trouble of my mom saying she never wanted me to get one.
2) Band t-shirts or odd humorous arty shirt, Lee jeans, usually a denim jacket.
3) Usually a jacket, but not so much in the summer. I almost always have my keys with me and when I don’t it’s bad because the door autolocks behind me. Usually my wallet because money and IDs. I also keep a pen in the left front pocket of my pants.
4) I have a broken Japanese style tea cup that I got when my usual sushi bar was celebrating its 20th anniversary. I was really sick one day and knocked it off the table with the a/c cable for my laptop. It can’t be patched back together again, but I still haven’t thrown it out.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Other tattoo comment...
My old roommate had a cross tattoo on his arm, but then he he started to be not so into religion so he got E^(Pi)i + 1 = 0 tattooed inside that.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 21, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Has anyone that has NCAA 11 done the Online Dynasty?
I am doing one right now and the fact that you can do everything on a computer is pretty badass. I just did a bunch of recruiting and it seems smooth and simple.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 9:12 AM PDT reply actions
Yeah, that's a pretty poor experience.
The thing I really am not liking for the Online Dynasty in NCAA is that I cannot advance the week on the website. I was hoping to get to advance it and then do some more recruiting from the computer before I got home to play some more, but they have apparently not set up that functionality yet.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The worst part is from talking to them at E3
I don’t think it’s going to be any better. A guy in my online league wrote a script that gave us better stat tracking functionality than the actual website.
[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]
Morning!
1. I have three. First one I got at the age of 17, on New Years Eve, at the only place open. I picked the design off the wall. It’s ugly and I hate it, but it could have been worse. It’s a little tribal squiggly thing on my hip. Second one I got at the age of 20, when I was going through a genealogy phase. It’s a small Celtic knot on my back. Then I waited 18 years before I got another one. My dad got a tattoo when he was 18 and freshly enlisted in the Army. A guy was practicing being a tattoo artist, and my dad’s was the first one he did. It said “Joe” (dad’s nickname). Kind of scribbly and crappy, but I loved that tattoo growing up. On the one year anniversary of my dad’s death recently I had his tattoo replicated on my arm.
2. It changes. I used to be way more concerned with style and clothing than I am now – I think working at home with kids for 7 years will do that to you. When I give a crap though, I’ve always been partial to 40’s dresses, t strap heels and minimal jewelry. (I don’t, as a rule, really wear jewelry)
3. I always have my phone and debit card. Always.
4. Quite a few things. A drawer full, I’d say. Things ranging from ticket stubs to a rock from the cliff where dad crashed.
Such cheerful answers!
Answers!
1) No, because I don’t really like the look of most tattoos and if you come near my with a needle I go on a rampage and destroy things. Kids, don’t have millions of surgeries before you’re a year old, and you won’t become psychotic around needles either!
2) I wear a lot of Ben Sherman. I just like the English preppy look I suppose.
3) Nothing unusual. Wallet and phone most of the time.
4) I have a small fragment of icthyosaur rib/stomach that I found on my first expedition with the Natural History museum when I was a kid. It’s a great fossil but I can’t imagine it’d be worth much to anyone by me. All of my really good stuff was left in England because rocks are expensive to move.
Watches
I OK looking Citizen. Sometimes I really want to go blow a bunch of money something nicer, but every time I get close to spending the money I freak out. Any one take that plunge yet?
Fuck the Angels
I hear Movado makes good watches
M's fan in PA, soon to be LA
by perfectstrat on Jul 21, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Depend on how nice your Citizen is
I bought myself a decent Seiko that I plan on wearing for a very long time last year though:

by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
This is one I have. Not great, but it does not look awful.

Fuck the Angels
I want this Omaga Speedmaster.

Fuck the Angels
I've got a Citizen.
I bought it at Costco for $150 and I absolutely love it. They make dressier looking pieces in that price range, but I dig this particular watch as a daily-wear watch. It seems pretty tough, and it probably is since I haven’t managed to break it yet.
Funny story
I wanted to get all my groomsmen fake Rolexes as a gift, partly because one of them, my BroIL, would have probably thought it was real at first since he’s used to getting gifts like that.
So I moseyed down to Canal Street thinking I’d drop like 80 bones on five. As soon as I started asking around for prices I found out that the fakes, even the shitty ones, are all like 60 bucks and of course I started haggling. HIlariously, every vendor I tried to haggle with got all huffy and uptight about it, like “Sir! this is a fine timepiece! it was made in JAPAN! perhaps you’d be interested in our fake Timex?”
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I bought a fake Rolex in Tijuana a few years back and the vendor was mad at me
because I paid the $25 he was asking without haggling. It was…confusing.
This is how I would like to get a nice watch. Was it a quality watch?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It ran for 3 years without a single issue
Then the battery started to die, so I bought a new battery. Took the back off the watch, and all the guts of the watch pretty much just fell out and disintegrated. So it was quality, until it wasn’t, I guess you could say.
I want to find a vintage deco watch that I could perhaps refurbish and wear for daily use.
I love using older objects and styles in the modern context, especially if it’s an object that’s actually old and not something mass-produced meant to look old. Something a bit like this –

by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I have thought about doing this with a pocketwatch as well.
Pocketwatches in general are fantastic; I just find that when I have worn pocketwatches in the past they tend to get pretty beaten up.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
That is an absolutely beautiful timepiece.
If I wore a watch I would for sure get one in an antique store or something.
I love my Citizen to death, but I found that the face scratched pretty quickly
Anyone else have this problem? Was it expensive to fix?
I haven't had that problem at all.
The crystal on my Citizen has taken all sorts of abuse and still looks fine.
Holy shit those are pricey but they sure look nice.
That was one of those situations where I considered it for just a second as I’m also in the market for a watch. Saw the price and that was the end of that.
When you're a rich doctor.
I can maybe get you a deal.
He picked it up as a hobby and then started selling them. Got published in some fancy watch magazine and it just kind of took off.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Haven't you seen the healthcare reform news?
I’m going to go home from seeing patients and curl up under the freeway for the night.
AWROoOOGA AWROOOOGA
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
This wasn't an invitation to discuss politics.
It was a joke.
Well then I'll give you one
And you can sell it for crack.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll take one
It’ll make a hell of a wedding gift
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
1,200 is not bad for a good watch.
Fuck the Angels
I still have not been able to go there yet. I want to, but I just not yet.
Here’s a list of my financial priorities:
Down payment on a nice house.
Big Vacations.
Project car.
Boat.
Fuck the Angels
They are stunning watches and I'd love to have one.
But even though it’s a fair price, it doesn’t mean that fair price accessible for most people.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I would say 1200 is ridiculous for something whose function is to tell time
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't need to tell time when I'm swimming
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Not at all
Though I struggle with the thought that I would ever wear one, even if I had the money (and I would probably own an ungodly amount of watches if I was rich)
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Hello
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 21, 2010 9:38 AM PDT reply actions
Hiya
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 21, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
hi there!
Whats going on today?
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 21, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
haha, right
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 21, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
You should answer the questions at the top of the post!
Good way to engage with the community and all that.
yeah...
they were about, what, tattos? i dont got any of those.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
oh, right
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 21, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Listen
I don’t mean to be a dick, but a) you can scroll up and b) if you keep ignoring LL rules regarding grammar you will be asked to move on.
Cheers.
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
OK, sorry
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 21, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
It's
afternoon here!
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 21, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
Yes :D
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 21, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
But not too long after noon.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Regarding clothes:
Which discount stores do you prefer? I almost always buy my clothes at Ross or Marshall’s. Nordstrom Rack is great. If I had money, I would definitely shop at Nordstrom’s a lot more, its my favorite department store, but in the meantime, the Rack works out well.
The Rack is great for men's jeans.
Not sure why. Maybe the really “fancy” jeans just don’t go at full price once men get a look at the tag.
My stylin' ensembles usually come from sale days at Fred Meyers or Penneys...
again, it is that whole ‘clothes that fit’ thing.
Its crazy how much they get discounted after they are "out of style"
$150 jeans for $40 or better.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I've found great shoes at the Rack.
Fuck the Angels
The Rack around here has a ton of cool English Laundry stuff.
Other than that, it’s more miss than hit.
Answers!
1) Do you have any tattoos? If so where and what? If not, any reasons (or lack thereof)?
No tattoos here, and no desire to get one. I can’t think of any message or design that I would want to have on my body for the rest of my life; most tattoos I see seem awfully banal. I don’t want to assume that the tattoos are as meaningless to the person who got them as I would assume, but my thinking is that something that looks cool for a few years might be completely asinine in the context of the rest of your life. I can’t imagine being 60 years old in the 2030s and looking at a badly faded, sagging tribal arm band tattoo that looked totally bitchin’ back in 1998.
2) What’s your style? Do you associate yourself by a brand, type of clothing, or class of people when you dress?
If my style was a vehicle it would be a minivan – much more about function than form. I look for clothes that are functional and comfortable and that don’t require a whole lot of thought or expense. I would certainly like to be more stylish than I am, but it seems like an awful lot of work and expense to try to maintain that style, and it all could be out the window in a year or so when the styles change.
If I had the money and the time I’d probably wear more outdoor-type clothing – it’s the combination of style, comfort, and function that’s closest to my heart, but performance clothing is expensive enough that it’s hard to justify using them for just casual wear.
3) What things can you find on your person at all times, regardless of situation?
Keys, wallet, cell phone. That’s my holy trinity.
4) Do you have something that you own for sentimental reasons that nobody would think has value?
I have four bookshelves worth of old car magazines; included in that is AutoWeek running consistently from 1986-1998 (52 issue/year) and Car and Driver running consistently from 1968-2010. The collection is not completely without worth, but it’s awfully close to it. But it’s sentimental since it’s from both my childhood and something about which both my dad and I could bond.
Please, do tell more.
(Take notes, Hafner, and see if it’s anything good)
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Dude that was in about 1983 and I don't really remember what I had for lunch yesterday
I’m guessing it was about cars, but beyond that I got nothin’.
My only thing with the "how will it look when you're old?" argument is that I think I'll have bigger problems to worry about than a tattoo that looks "asinine"
And by that age I hope I don’t really give a shit what anyone thinks.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope I didn't cause any offense.
I’m just explaining why I don’t want a tattoo – for me, they represent no upside and all downside.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I love these OT prompts
1. Currently, I don’t have any tattoos. I have been telling myself to get one on my birthday since I turned 18, and I turn 25 next week, so now might finally be the time. The only thing is that I don’t know what to get – a phrase in English, something in Kanji, a combination, design, etc. I’ve considered getting a Bruin “B” on my calf in blue (why can’t we have a cool hat logo like Arizona State…), but afraid people would mistake it for a Red Sox logo.
2. Pretty simple, a bit preppy. Good fitting jeans, prefer Lucky since they seem to fit me correctly and last a while, some kind of shirt. Casual, almost always just a simple screen t-shirt, or polo. Really dislike the polos with a lot going on, strongly prefer solid, one color polos with just a small logo on the chest. For going out, always a dress shirt untucked with a dark colored undershirt. Again, strongly prefer solids, so the most common thing to see me walking around in is slightly faded jeans, a black undershirt and white dress shirt (always freshly ironed), with black shoes or grey Nikes.
Hate wearing sandals, almost always wearing shoes unless at the beach.
If hats, something that complements what I’m wearing. I know it’s an unpopular opinion but I have no problem with the following in hats – team hats in off colors (an all-white Mariners hat, for example), flat brims, or slightly askew hats
3. Standard of keys, wallet and cell phone. Would never leave home without any of the three. At various times in my life, I’ve carried the following items compulsively – iPod, playing cards, gum, nice ballpoint pen. Currently, I almost always have a pen with me, and 50/50 shot on having gum.
4. Yes, a bunch of random things from my childhood. My mom used to make bag tags as a small side business when I was small, so I still use those ones on my travel bag and laptop bag
How do you feel about people leaving the stickers on their hats?
by Eyebrows on Jul 21, 2010 10:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I personally do not, but I don't find it particularly offensive
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
The people who leave leave stickers on their hats, usually need to be reminded to pull up their pants.
Fuck the Angels
I've found that lately it's more the people that need to be told to put their collar(s) back down.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
first the blues, then rap, now hats with stickers on them
is there ANYTHING that whitey won’t co-opt?
I asked for an explanation of this trend on a message board a while ago.
The responses made almost no sense to me. All I could take away was that it had something to do with “looking fresh.”
Horrible
again, I prefer almost everything to be solid color
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I have an old plaid hat that my aunt got from St. Andrews Golf Course when she was in Scotland
But I never wear it.. I guess that could be an answer for the last question, as well.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
This is the kind of hat I could get behind, preferably with a flatter brim, actually
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
You are a bigger douchebag than Kirk Harbaugh.
by Robert on Jul 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Says the man with photographic evidence of himself participating in the Bros Icing Bros drinking game
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw somebody get Iced in Disneyland. It was hilarious.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
Not as far as I saw.
It was technically in Downtown Disney, so not in the park proper, but it isn’t like trying to smuggle C4 into the White House. My buddy brought in a tac knife on accident, he simply had it in his pocket.
Basically, I heard a loud “Son of a bitch!” and turned around and saw a guy with holding a Smirnoff and his buddies open satchel.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
I'm impressed by the description of Angels baseball in the link
Gene Mauch coached the Angels? I NEED A PLAID HAT.
As long as it's not pink (or I guess red), most people won't mistake it for a RS logo.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
That's true. My daughter absolutely LOVES Sparky
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Me and the Mrs are going to be surrounded by ASU people next weekend
good thing there’s an open bar at the wedding.
Nope, Tahoe actually
My cousin (ASU ‘08) is graduating, and her entire bridal party are ASU grads as are a lot of the groomsmen. That’s pretty funny though.
In an unrelated-but-still-Tucson question, is it true that Dirtbags is closing?
I am wondering how many bodies are going to be found in there.
Hopefully when they refill it, it’s clean water. That was gross.
Haven’t heard about Dirtbags, I don’t head over that way very often.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Can't imagine you would
but it’s one of those UA student landmark bars that I can’t believe is actually going to become a parking lot. But it is right on the corner of campus, though, so I guess it’s pretty valuable real estate.
Yeah, I have been there a few times (mostly in the earlier days when I lived here)
Never really saw the appeal, but I can see how some may enjoy it, especially with the history et al.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I think PDB is going to check out
the amazing vanishing football practice facility
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that when your wife is finally acquiring nuclear weapons?
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
No but Raytheon has finally released their pain ray to the military
so I’m hoping I can get a backpack-mounted one on my brother-in-law’s sweet employee discount.
Raytheon also just awarded a massive contract to the Alabama plant
That’s not so great news for Tucson.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I heard about that and asked my sister when they're packing up and moving to Alabama
her two word response: FUCK OFF
I love my family.
That seems to be the general tone
It’s somewhat akin to the Boeing stuff up in Seattle, albeit on a smaller scale.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
That pissed me off. They spent 8.4 million on that bubble
When for an extra million or so, they could have had a fieldhouse made of aluminum and would generally have looked much cooler (and not have blown up)
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
There was a really interesting story on Real Sports a while back
about the company that makes those practice bubble things. They’ve had safety problems with them all over the country (they also did the Cowboys one), and through all of their problems they refuse to acknowledge that the design might be at fault. A lot of architects have looked at their stuff and said “yep, these are unsafe, here’s easy fixes that will make them safer” but the company won’t do it.
It's that type of jackassery that really pisses me off.
So what if you have the market cornered? You have had two major collapses of your product in two really goddamn high profile markets. Get off your ass and fix what needs to be fixed before one of the disasters that your product causes takes lives.
/rant
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Responses!
1. No tattoos. Not opposed to them, just haven’t thought of something worth doing
2. I wear jeans and T-shirts and my M’s hat in my off time, and jeans and a short sleeve button up shirt when working. Pretty simple.
3. Aside from the oft-mentioned Keys/Wallet/Cell phone, I also always have a pen and pocket knife, and something else I probably won’t mention because it would likely cause an STC prompt or two
4.
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
Hmmm...
4. I have an old jacket that my (now deceased) grandfather gave me. It’s kind of ugly, but it’s warm and I love it because it reminds me of him. Can’t make myself get rid of it
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Good morning
1: No tattoo, but I’m just being choosy. I always wanted something Mt. Rainier related, but I haven’t decided exactly which view, size, etc.
2: No style. Utter stylishlessness. The question makes me uncomfortable. I shop in thrift stores and merch tables, so I buy whatever seems decent, isn’t stained horrifically, and doesn’t smell like someone died while wearing it. For work, I wear suits or khakis, dress shirts. I need new dress shirts, as all of my current ones are beginning to piss me off. Anyway, the work day versus non work day difference can be pretty large when you combine clothes with the fact that I never shave until I have to.
3: Phone, keys, wallet. I am boring! In my wallet, I still have some Cambodian money.
4: Many/most of the records in my collection? Tons of pictures, ticket stubs, etc. Lots of stuff. I can be a pack rat at times.
Who else is going to the Oregon Brewer's Fest this weekend?
What would you say the “can’t miss” beers are from this year’s list?
I am!
Collaborator Sunstone Pilsner
Deschutes Fresh Squeezed IPA
Kona Coconut Brown
Lompoc Son of C-Note
Rogue 21
Terminal Single-Hop Double IPA
I’m not a fan of sours or beers with coffee flavor so there’s probably others you should try if you like those types of beer.
Deschutes Fresh Squeezed IPA sounds really interesting.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
The Dogfish Head India Brown Ale sounds interesting too.
by theslothking on Jul 21, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Cascade Summer Gose
Kona Coco Loco
Bruery Seven Grain Saison
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
It's tasty stuff, and I found the coconut was subtle and well-integrated.
Still, the one they need to bring over more often on is the imperial stout….
The Brown’s session-y, which is actually a lot more appropriate for an event like this.
I wish that event wasn't so full of douchenozzles.
I avoid it like the plague now, even if it means I miss out on good beer.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 21, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
We went last year for the first time in several years, and it wasn't horrible
Go Thursday after work, if you can, and leave by about 9 or so. Same with Friday. Avoid Sat/Sun at all costs and it’s not too douchey.
Beer festivals always draw a pretty strange crowd, but who cares? Treat it like any other large event.
Go with a group of people you like and just ignore everyone else.
It's impossible to ignore everybody else
when random cheers erupt every 10 seconds from some drunk bro, and it spreads like wildfire to all the other drunk bros. It’s so loud that you can’t even talk to anybody else until it’s over.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 21, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Last year I got stuck in traffic heading down from Seattle
and didn’t make it in until half an hour before taps closed on Friday. Man was that a drunken wasteland.
by theslothking on Jul 21, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I went last year, and I'm done for a while.
It’s fun, I guess, and if you’re local enough to hit it on Thursday evening, cool. Otherwise, I’d much prefer heading over to Bailey’s Tap Room or something.
Seconded.
Not this particular festival, but I hit up both SIB and PIB this year and have done SIB three years running. I don’t care for those as beer festivals because the crowds kind of suck and it’s a ripoff. I’ll go if the experience (who I go with) is worth it, but they do not stand on their own for me.
In fact, very few beer festivals do. Stone Sour used to, but I wouldn’t pay to go to it now. Brouwer’s festivals except their barleywine one are uniformly awful. Elysian had a fest during the first SBW that was perfect. 3oz pours for $1 each.
I've gone to the Oregon festival 4 times
and each time, the balance between my excitement about all these amazing new beers and my annoyance at everything else tips a bit. It tipped completely when I waited in a long line for something interesting last year, only to find when I got to the front that they were serving Mirror Pond. Most people didn’t seem to care. BEERWOOOOOOOBEEEEER!
It doesn’t help that it’s much easier to get these amazing beers in bars/stores, especially in Portland/Seattle (less so in Tacoma, but even here, I can get way more than I could 5-7 years ago when I first went to the OBF).
Yeah
I typically cherry pick if I go to OBF, and only focus on the stuff I can’t get in a store or a bar around here. It really. I avoided both the summer and winter fests for several years, and after going to the winter one last year I’ll avoid it forever now, but the summer one’s still OK as long as you’re with people and can tune out the douchebags.
This is exactly what I do at every beer festival
I didn’t even drink Consecration or Cuvee de Tomme at Sourfest this year – no point
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I typically find at OBF
the “weirder” the beer, the shorter the line. Still a fair few people but not nearly as bad as at the New Belgium line or whatever.
The people that bug me the most are the ones that go around asking how strong all the beer is and once they find the strongest one they just keep drinking it.
I find it almost impossible to get drunk at festivals anyways, and it just seems like a massive waste to me.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
If I worked at a bar and someone asked me what the strongest beer we carried was,
I’d be awfully tempted to point to the Scotch
by Matthew on Jul 21, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would do it at a bar
But not a festival. But generally I like the taste of stronger beers.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
On the one hand I wish places wouldn't list the ABV of their beers to prevent this sort of thing
but on the other holy crap have their been times I wish I had known before ordering.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
That typically happens a lot more at the winter one
which is fully enclosed and provides no place to get away from the bro squad. At the summer one there’s room to spread out at the park so it’s not quite that bad.
Ohmigod.
ESPN lets Joe Morgan do online chats
Kevin (New Jersey)
Sunday in talking about Starlin Castro you said shortstop was the toughest position to learn how to play in the majors. I love ya Joe, but we see 19 year olds come up an play shortstop, (Andrus and Castro) but no 19 year old catchers. Cather is the most difficult position to learn, don’t you agree?
Joe Morgan (11:26 AM)
I wouldn’t have said it if I agreed! To play shortstop properly is what I said. It’s more difficult to make all of those defensive plays at shortstop, like learning how to be in the right cutoff position. Catching is putting the fingers down and catching the ball. Veteran pitchers call their own games in the majors. No one makes the plays for you at shortstop. You get help when you’re a young catcher. Managers will sometimes call pitches, like a football coach calling plays. There’s more you have to do as a shortstop—it’s not the hardest position to play as a young player, but there’s more to learn. Catching is difficult for young players, but they get more assistance than shortstops.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 11:26 AM PDT reply actions
Answers:
1) I have one tattoo from 1994. It is on my right pectoral and it is personal. I got it so I would see it every day, but as I almost never go shirtless no one ever sees it.
2) My style is limited as very few pants fit me. I have a small waist, big butt, thick upper legs and a short inseam. So I dress comfortable and that is about it.
3) Wallet, phone, business cards.
4) My own recordings and thousands of songs and poems I have written over the years.
Just to throw this out there.
But how many of you actually spend a decent amount of money on clothes? I still wear shirt I have from Elementary school (It was cool to have baggy shirts back then) I literally only get new clothes if my wife purchases them.
I wore a shirt the other day that I am wearing in my sophomore year of high school yearbook photo
It’s safe to say I hate spending money on clothes.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I bought 7 pairs of Jeans at Old Navy about 5 years ago on one of their Jeans are $20 sales
And they’re all still in perfect condition.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate to admit I own some
but they had a ridiculous sale on them earlier this year/end of last year and I bought a couple pairs that I’m really enjoying. I hope they have another sale this year so I can buy more.
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I spend very little.
My Mother-in-law buys almost all my shirts as she has very good taste and likes to shop.
When I was in Japan last summer I spent about $850 on replacing most of my casual wardrobe.
Most expensive items were ~$220 for jeans and $55 for a wallet.
Tons of great shops like Uniqlo and Jeans Mate with cheap, good quality articles of clothing.
$220 for jeans?
Careful there. People might mistake you for a gay.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 21, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Or a female.
That would just be the WORST.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Stupid Americans
a shame we can’t all be awesome and Japanese.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 21, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's totally just culture difference. Americans are more laid back and lax about everything, so most people don't know jack about fashion or care about what they wear.
Japanese culture necessitates a careful care for one’s look, lest he or she be judged by other people. And Japanese people generally don’t like to stand out.
So then I should just keep buying cheaper jeans?
I’m confused.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You forced me to google this, so I give you this.

Fuck the Angels
Jorts reminds me
a friend just noted that "After seeing “Twilight: Eclipse” I have concluded that Jacob must have a closet packed to the brim with denim shorts. Makes sense right? I mean every time he changes into a wolf he ruins a pair!"
Actually it's revealed later that Jacob becoming a werewolf put a strain on his family's finances
because they were fairly poor and he kept destroying clothing
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Wear whatever you feel comfortable with that is appropriate for the friends and colleagues you are around
and projects the image you want to give.
I have to wear suits for work.
All my suits are from the thrift store. I’m a picky shopper, so they look alright.
I got some tailored, but wasn’t impressed by the alterations.
I'm really glad I don't have to wear suits.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I have a couple and I would love to wear them at work
I almost got a job where I would have had to dress up daily, was kind of looking forward to it.
Though the “throw on a pair of jeans and a t-shirt with flip flops” position I am in now is more than alright, as well.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
We are required to wear long-sleeve shirts and ties at work. Sometimes suits.
It was cool for the first month, when I felt mature and suave. It has sucked most of the time since. Summer can be especially brutal, especially because our offices are downtown and basically require bus/train travel, and non-ACed buses are agonizing.
Other 20-somethings I meet after work don’t seem to be impressed by it, either. On the contrary, they assume young guys in suits/shirts and ties are:
A. tools
B. boring
Maybe that last part is in my head, but it makes me feel a little bit closer to 90-and-retired than young-and-vibrant.
I assume that anyone who doesn't like wearing a suit and tie is a no good layabout
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It's one thing I really miss now that I no longer sell cars
It feels good to be dressed up that nice. I went to a friend’s wedding last month and donned a nice shirt, tie, and slacks and felt like a million bucks.
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I like dressing down
So when I do dress up people are shocked.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Then the compliments are nice, cause you went out of your way to dress up.
It’s just weird when my friends are like, hey look at you all dressed up. When all I did was come over from work.
Nobody recognizes me!
I was in my best suit yesterday and went to the bar. Some people took 10-20 minutes to figure out who I was. Shaving too. If I didn’t need to shave, I think I’d look like a mountain man.
I dressed up one day to go to a job interview
Normally, I am a jeans, flip flops, t-shirt and backwards hat, but this time I had my pinstripe suit, hair all done, shaved etc… and I went to go pick up my daughter from daycare.
The daycare teacher who I converse with everyday thought I was 3 different people before she actually realized who I was. She almost made me go use the office phone to call my wife and have her say it was ok for me to pick her up.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
This is mostly true
When I get home from work I’m too busy laying about to look for a more laid-back job.
At the very least it's given us tie-wearers practice so that down the line we know how to look good at weddings and other fancy events.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys really need school uniforms
I’ve been wearing ties since I was four
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I had never tied a tie until the age 24.
I’m not sure about “uniforms” but I wouldn’t have been opposed to schools with formal dress codes. Dressing nice feels good to me, I think it looks better.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Last week I went straight from a work to a wedding
Didn’t have to change or anything, and I fit right in.
You’re right, it’s not that bad, but man there are days when I wish I had a built-in fan like you see in huge hot dog and jelly bean costumes.
I think what really bugs me is the socks and shoes. Stiff leather dress shoes and long icky socks that itch and pull on leg hair.
Then again, I am OCD. Which doesn’t help.
Yes, socks and shoes is a good point. Hate em. Best part of my day is taking those off and letting the dogs breathe again.
But I do like the idea of mixing and matching the rest of the ensemble to give me a sense of style.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
For sure
I wore this snazzy aqua-blue shirt the other day, with this silver, rainbow trout kinda tie. I felt great.
This guy came up to me on the bus, complimented my shirt and tie, and started chatting. The highlight and lowlight of the week occurred when, after I mentioned I was married, the guy screamed “SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES AGAIN!!!!!!” on the crowded bus.
by HititHere on Jul 21, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hahaha
“Hey, that shirt and tie look great on you!”
“Yeah? Thanks, I’ll let my wife know she made a good choice then.”
“CURSES!”
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I actually use that exclamation once in a while.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I recently came across a photo of my father in 1968
In it he was wearing the same sweater he had been wearing that same afternoon.
by msb on Jul 21, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate buying clothes. So I rarely use the dryer and everything lasts forever.
Also I prefer basic types of clothing, classic kind of styles. So it ‘s pretty rare for me to have to get rid of something because it’s last years trend.
Yeah, that fishing hat is classic style.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
That's authentic army issue desert camo
You should see my new hard hat, it’s shiny.
You should wear all camo, all the time.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
I just realized my most expensive piece of clothing is a custom fit pair of steel toe boots.
The other guys on the job site consider me to be quite the fashion plate.
Also for another tattoo
I’ve always want a nature mural of a Eagle grabbing a Fish out of a river taking up my whole back. And when I lift up my arms the eagles wings spread. Then on my chest I want a classic wolf howling at the moon. So then I can goto art shows and just walk around with my shirt off.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
So I guess this is how you tattoo a .gif onto your body
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Which one gets Jeff's face on it?
Eagle, fish or wolf?
Do it now
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
This whole post had me laughing.
Thank God I am the only person in this office!
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Responses
1) No Tattoos. I think my upbringing has conditioned me to not want any.
2) Either Dickie’s or jeans, a lot of tshirts from threadless, or the occasional loose fitting button up shirt when I want to feel classy. Also I wear skate boarding shoes. I used to wear Chuck Taylor’s but I kept getting incredible leg pain so I went to skate boarding shoes for the better arch support.
3) Uh, I don’t know? I usually have my phone, wallet and keys when I’m out of the house but that’s really it.
4) I did. I had a blanket made for me by my now deceased grandmother that I’d cherished heavily. I impulsively gave it to my ex girlfriend when she moved out about a month ago.
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I'd like to take this quiet moment
To point out that holy shit my wedding is just 10 days away
Anybody else ever had something so far off on the calendar that seemed like it would take forever to arrive, only to find that the closer you got to it the faster time began to move?
It's crazy
I mean, we’re all planned and everything is set, but we were engaged back in August 2008 and had the date set shortly thereafter. Time just kept crawling by, but the last couple of months it has been moving at Ludicrous Speed.
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
We pieced together some dress clothes for him
No way I’m paying $150(!) for a messy 6 year old to wear a rented tux
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Good call.
And don’t worry, it’s normal for your wedding to feel like it snuck up on you. Just remember, it is a day for you two, NOT for anyone else. When in doubt, do what is easiest for you, or what makes you the happiest and screw everyone else.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Like I said, we're all prepped and ready for it
Parents on both sides are ready to quell any complaints or issues from those attending on the off chance that somebody wants to bitch.
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
If you've got both sets of parents on your side then you are home free.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
We had our bridal party all waiting and ready to quell drama
It was a beautiful thing
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what did for my nephew, as well
He was almost 3 at the time of the wedding, luckily my sister had a suit, so all we had to rent was the vest.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Especially because my kid loves to party
He will dance for hours and would probably tear his tux if he were wearing one
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh hey you're getting married post kids too awesome
my little girl was 2 when I got hitched. She thought it was her party.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup! Mine had just turned 3 4 days before the wedding
Know just how what you mean! She took over that dance floor like it was hers.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
We had a "no kids" wedding.
Although our boys were there, and a few of the older kids from the family. Our rule was basically “nobody under 16 allowed”.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
My son will most likely be the youngest kid there
We wanted to have as few as possible because we can’t trust people to keep their kids quiet. Plus, the venue is not really suited for kids so there will be nowhere for them to go fuck off and be kids at
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That was our reasoning as well.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Yup!
My wedding. It was like a freight train after awhile. Don’t worry, it slows down after it’s all over.
My wife and I were talking a couple nights ago about how little we remember from the actual day, it was all a blur.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
My wedding was exactly like this too - I have virtually no memory of the ceremony or the reception.
There was just too much happening too quickly, coming after too much buildup, and with all of it of too much importance. Decompressing and enjoying the honeymoon, though, was absolutely fantastic.
Have a great wedding, Toot.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember all the pre-match buildup on my wedding day
and I was fine as I walked down the aisle. The minute I saw my wife getting ready to walk down that same aisle, it was pretty much a blur from that point on until the reception started. I’m told I handled myself very well but I remember almost none of it.
My divorce
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
What.The.Fuck.
I’m not going to sleep tonight.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
What. The. Fuck?
I have a feeling I am going to be watching this for the next 5 minutes.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That means you... liked it?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
So she liked it.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Might be a brain tumor.
Immediately after watching it I got dizzy and headachy and had to rest for a while.
(Not an invitation for Eyebrows)
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
(Not an invitation for ANYBODY)
FUCK YOU SPIDERS
I'd like to invite you to the pants party
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
Answers
1) Not yet, but have several I plan on getting soon-ish.
2) I wear Levis 514s almost every day. They fit well and come in quite a few different washes. As far as shirts I would wear Fred Perry every day if I could afford to. I can’t, so I wear a lot of western snap shirts and polos. I do a lot of thrift-shopping.
3) Phone, keys, wallet, smokes.
4) Tons and tons of concert fliers and cassette tapes.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I was waiting for someone to add in the smokes to #3.
I say those 4 words aloud to myself before I leave my house, cause it sucks to forget any of them.
Apparently it's a done deal according to Sounders at Heart
WOOOOO!!!!!
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
How does MLS's pay rank compared to Mexican and South American leagues?
There seem to be a lot of Spanish speakers in the league.
McAnswers
1) No tattoos. Talk about it all the time, but probably won’t ever actually do it. Once you get to my age you don’t start a new habit like that.
2) Style? I have none. I usually wear carpenter jeans and t-shirts, with a hat. I just want to be comfortable. Althought I do love me a good Hawaiian shirt, the gaudier the better.
3) Completely regardless of the situation? I always have a lighter with me, unless I’m swimming or playing a sport where I don’t have pockets, or there is a realistic chance of the lighter getting broken or wedged inside me somehow.
4) I don’t know if you can call it “owned”, but I have a random looking rock that I keep around. It’s from one of the ancestral castles for my family.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Do they actually do that for you or do they make you buy a new phone?
My brother had to have a third party do that.
Depends on whether or not you're still in the coverage range.
Given that it’s a 3G I’d guess it’s not anymore.
Wipe it
Sell it on craigslist for a $100.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously there is people that buy these things to fix other peoples.
Or you could have this guy fix it.
He would also probably buy it from you.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I was thinking about this.
I broke it last night and my contract is up in a month and a half. Still works, just looks like ass.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a whole lot to lose I think.
$8, DIY repair, then sell it later.
It takes like 30 minutes to do at most, but can be a little tricky. Watch a youtube video or two as a guide.
I did it for mine… then something made the screen stop working like 20 days later. I took it to the Apple store and they gave me a new phone free of charge.
Answers? Answers.
1 – Zero tattoos. Can’t find anything that I want to permanently have on my body. Stupid commitment issues…
2 – If I had to define myself, I’d say athletic/preppy. If I’m just lounging around my house, I’ll be in basketball shorts and a random Nike shirt. Going out, I like to dress up. Polo Ralph Lauren polos/long-sleeve button up shirts and Guess jeans with Adidas Sambas are my standby.
3 – Keys, cell phone, wallet, gum, knife, watch.
4 – Not really. Pretty much everything I have has some sort of value/use.
Karma police, arrest this man.
Yes it can.
If I’m going out I can wear a nice pair of khakis, a button up shirt and some nice Sketchers or something. That is dressed up.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Hey, whoah...
Sambas are indoor soccer shoes, not tennis shoes. Get it right.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I read numbe three as "keys, cell phone, wallet, gun, knife, watch" at first.
Gave me a totally different impression of you before I read it a second time.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
I think we should graph out how many people had "Keys, Wallet, Phone" as their #3 answer
I wager it would be around 90%
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Just think, 10 or 15 years ago how common would that answer have been?
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Disgusting and NSFW.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Its just a dude with his shirt off.
Those are natural!
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude with his shirt off and huge tits.
I’m sure from 10 feet away it would look totally innocent, right?
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Yeah, collapsed.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
You and your fancy words
But wikipedia thinks that you might be right.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome. Lucky there's one within ten feet of me.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 21, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Scruffy
This was bad. Do not do this
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet Hat Night!
Meeting Dave Sims was pretty cool. I only really got to exchange a couple sentences and handshakes with him.
I did get a bag of swag, though, including an autographed hat (Doug Fister), ball (Sims), the Ichiro-designed T-shirt, and a ticket to an upcoming game … IN THE COMMISSIONER’S BOX.
I think I’m going to see if I can get a game declared a tie.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
Holy crap!! How did you earn all of that???!?
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
I would just sit there and yell THIS TIME IT COUNTS all night
that’s pretty awesome!
by pdb on Jul 21, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously?
To quote Buhner, “awesome man”.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
That is pretty badass!
Congrats! What was the hat? I missed the game last night to play some NCAA 11
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Navy blue felt fedora with a green feather and "Sweet Hat Club" sign, paired with 1994 teal jersey.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's a link to the Facebook picture
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting fruit hat man.
Diggin’ the fedora, though!
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm still curious about why people dislike Sims so much.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw you guys on TV at the gym. Thanks for your participation in that moment of joy.
Out of those three, you definitely deserved to win.
You only one because Dave wants your hat.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
It's almost as if Dave wanting a hat would use the same criteria as Dave liking a hat which is similar to the criteria that Dave would use to judge a hat contest
by abender20 on Jul 21, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I suppose that is true.
But it’s still brown-nosing.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
But wouldn't "Dave Sims Hat Night" imply wearing a hat like Dave's?
Or perhaps a hat with Dave’s face on it? Or even better, a hat with one of his hats on it.
Some people actually had red berets with photos of Dave taped to the top.
The photographer came by and noticed that the hats still had their tags on them, and he was like “what, you’re going to take those back tomorrow?”
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I considered a red fedora (which is probably the nicest hat I own)
but it was a Mariners game, and red hats are just not acceptable. Also, I figured I shouldn’t be too ostentatious with my hat choice. Better served to be classy and understated.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting .375 with 4 RBI, for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Well hell, I'm Dave Sims facebook friend and I ping him when I know I'm going to a game with the hat.
If you want to talk about brown-nosing….
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I know you Eddie....
Well, not all that well, but….
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Congrats buddy. We saw you on TV and cheered.
...and now I'm here
You should try and work something out so you can get into the clubhouse or down on the field for batting practice
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He should try to work something out to get us all into the commissioner's box.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
That would be acceptable
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Believe me, I'd love to.
Maybe I should just make eight photocopies of this voucher.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Note to Mariners Marketing Staff
I’M NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THIS
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
So, it's just you all alone in the box?
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
It's actually two tickets, buy my mom has dibs.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
What I meant was, do you share it with other winners or something?
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Two other winners got prize packs which I assume include the same thing.
It’s theoretically possible that we all choose the same day and then we’re six-deep in the commissioner’s box, but I don’t know what that would mean exactly.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting .375 with 4 RBI, for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
How big is the box? I guess I'm picturing a suite.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
I don't even know how big the box is.
But I will report on this.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting .375 with 4 RBI, for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe that's correct, if only because the '02 ASG had both managers conferring with Selig.
That would have been hard to do in the press box.
My impression is that the box could fit four, but I could be way off.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting .375 with 4 RBI, for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, I think I'm confusing the commissioner's "box" with the commissioner's "sweet" (if that exists).
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
I bet my Seattle Storm access pass will work for that.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of the Storm
Holy shit they’re absolutely ridiculous this year!! Riddle me this, the only thing that will stop them from winning the championship would be injuries. Correct?
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The better teams in the East are pretty good.
I would expect Seattle at Atlanta or Seattle at Indiana to be a pretty tight game.
But it seems like the Storm just drop 20-25 points on their opposition in the 4th quarter game in and game out.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
But let me also add
I’m looking forward to getting paid extra for working playoff games.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently you or one of the other hat winners
is the father of a friend of a friend of mine. At least that’s what facebook comments would lead me to believe.
Either way, congrats!
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If I had $5000 to blow, I wouldn't spend it on that.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
msb
I believe I owe you one — or several — for the hat thing.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 7-for-15 with 3 SB, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone tried chili wine before?
It is wine made from chilis (not grapes). I have two bottles in the fridge and I am not sure how to prepare for them. I think they are only available in Australia.
...and now I'm here
I've had chili mead
Same thing? Drink it more like sipping on a shot then drinking a glass of wine.
Or, fun funsies, drink it like normal wine.
Hm... not sure. This is definitely wine though.
Link here. But yeah, it will be sipped slowly. The mead any good?
...and now I'm here
I'm up to two volunteers on the
“buy Matthew a 6-pack of Dogfish 120 and he promises to drink it all in one 24-hour period and blog about it” cause so I might as well add this one as well
12 hours would be perfect.
This needs to happen.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh? Over 24 hours? Somehow missed that part.
Yeah, that’s not bad at all
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
drink more?
that usualy doesnt work in terms of enhancing comprehension. lots of flyouts so far, and with a wind to LF, im predicting 3 or 4 HRs.
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on Jul 21, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So, how do I get T-Mobile to actually give me a good price on a new phone?
I’m under contract for a while still (October of next year or so, it expires) and can’t qualify for upgrade pricing yet.
I have a myTouch 3G, one of the early models, that has terrible screen burn-in and is about to need its third battery, along with an absurdly slow processor.
I actually LIKE T-Mobile’s service and pricing, so I’d rather not go to another carrier; but I don’t want to be stuck with this shitty phone for another year.
What are the right things to say to them to try to get them to give me a break? I’ll pay $100-200 for a decent new smartphone, but not the $350 they want for their newest myTouch.
Do I just do the standard “I’m going to disconnect if you don’t do X?” routine?
Probably not
because if you still have a year left there’s probably a fat disconnect fee they’d charge you at this point, so they’ll probably say “fine go ahead”. Go to a T-Mobile store (not a kiosk or a contract store) and ask for a manager, and explain all the issues you’re having with it, and that you’d like to stay with T-Mobile but really want to get a better phone. Offer to sign a brand new contract or extend your end date. That might work.
I might try this, thanks.
Ethically, I wouldn’t even really WANT to do the whole screaming/stamping my feet/threatening bit, because I think people resort to it far too easily; at the same time, I feel a little punished for being an early adopter.
I find firearms to be helpful.
But the cell signal sucks in prison.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Tell them you're going to switch carriers?
That always seemed to work for my ex.
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How long have you been with them?
They have a retention department that is there just for the purpose of kissing ass for longtime customers. May be an idea to get yourself transfered to them and tell them that you want to leave because you want a better phone with carrier X and the cost of getting a better phone at the discount PLUS your termination fee would still be less than a non-contract priced upgrade within T-Mobile.
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I just got done talking to one of their useless support chat people.
A visit to a store is next, and probably my last resort.
One has to question the wisdom of a company that is willing to lose a 10 year customer who always pays their nearly $100 a month bill on time every time because they won’t cut the price on a piece of equipment by a couple hundred bucks.
So, what’s the best Android smartphone out there right now? I don’t want an iPhone.
So why was ZombieLand so great?
I felt like it was just Dawn of the Dead meets Nick and Nora infinite playlist?
Not nearly enough Zombie killing.
Well besides that part.
That was a incredible 10 minutes.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I felt like it was just long enough
And the Bill Murray cameo was excellent. But really, I love when a movie isn’t too short that you don’t understand how it ended so quick and yet it isn’t too long that it drags on. ZombieLand walked that line beautifully.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
If you think Zombieland was a movie about zombie killing you missed the point.
Have you seen Shawn Of The Dead? They’re very similar and both awesome.
Shawn of the Dead was 10x greater in my opinion though.
I don’t think I missed the point. I thought the rules were clever, Bill Murry’s Cameo was great, Woody Harrelson was amazing. Everything else was just a big “Meh.”
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Shaun of the Dead was undeniably better.
But I really loved Zombieland. Woody Harrelson is so quotable in that movie, and the entire Bill Murray part is one of my favorite scenes of any movie ever. Beyond that, it was just fun, in a way that didn’t detract from those amazing aspects.
That being said, when I watched it, there were particular parts I LOVED that other people I was watching with clearly didn’t like. Like the montage of their car conversations, and all of the Woody Harrelson/Abagail Breslin interactions.
As a comedy, I just found it a huge refreshing change of pace from Judd Apatow and company (who I originally loved, but it’s wearing on me).
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 21, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
As in I had a expectation for it that it didn't live up to? Yes.
I have 2 categories for movies I enjoy.
- Movies I expect to be awful “actual movies” that succeed in ridiculousness. (ex Crank Series)
- Movies that are legitimately brilliant. (ex Moon)
This just didn’t quite make it in the 2nd category. Maybe it was Emma Stone who is becoming a female Michael Cera.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The scene in Superbad where Jonah Hill breaks her nose.
I could watch on loop at this point.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck they were in the same movie.
And I enjoy the first 45 minutes of Superbad.
……My world has just been thrown upside down.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is unfortunate
Because she is cute.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
What if a movie isn't awful or brilliant, but rather fun?
Zombieland doesn’t take itself too seriously, and I don’t think viewers should either.
by Eyebrows on Jul 21, 2010 3:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
"awful" is probably the wrong wording -Campy may be a better description.
And zombieland falls more into that category then the 2nd one.
I think I just had some odd expectations?
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a zombie/buddy film with a romantic plot thrown in.
Woody Harrelson makes the movie.
by Eyebrows on Jul 21, 2010 3:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The more I think about it.
The more I’m kind of cracking up.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 21, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Having a discussion with a friend
When Lou retires at the end of the year, is he a Hall of Famer? I say yes, without doubt…
Over 1700 hits as a player, 2 titles as a player, nearly 2000 wins as a manager (14th all-time), 3-time manager of the year, managed to a world series title.
I don’t see any way that he doesn’t, personally.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 2:59 PM PDT reply actions
That as well, yeah.
This is what one of the people is saying…
i dont think so. hes got his title with cincy but other than that i view his managerial success’ as being in the regular season and not post season. those ’01 mariners choked yet the ’95 mariners won one of the most exciting playoff series in mlb history. his time in tampa was forgettable. he won 2 division titles in a row with chicago which hasnt happened in how many decades? but he was swept out of the playoffs both seasons.
I get what he is saying, as well, which is why this is an intriguing case, yet I still see him as a no doubter
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
There are many people in the HoF with little or no "success" in the World Series, which is what this guy seems to be saying
The 01 Mariners choked yet the 95 Mariners were awesome and exciting because they won that playoff series?
They both went to the ALCS, and no further.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 21, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus a huge positive reputation within the game as a manager who "did things right," whatever that means
He definitely has the resume to get in though
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
They posed the interesting question on BaseballReference if a person can/should be elected by a combination of his playing and managing days.
Also interesting, no manager has ever made the playoffs 6 times and not made the Hall of Fame (of those eligible, but I’m not sure what managerial eligibility entails) and Lou has gone 7 times.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 21, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
So I'm about to head out to purchase ingredients for beer-float-making
Recommendations for beer(s) to go along with the ice cream?
Karma police, arrest this man.
That sounds terrible...
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a relief
I was about to shake my head in bewilderment and disappointment
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Chelada was much better than expected, but unfortunately that still left it at the absolutely awful level.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
So it didn't taste like week old unflushed toilet water
but it did taste like it was filtered through one of Harborview’s post-surgical scrub hampers?
I'm happy for you.
I hope you did a little dance.
by Eyebrows on Jul 21, 2010 3:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
When I went in and asked if my new favorite store has it
And they reacted without hesitation saying “Yup, right over here” I went crazy.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I've wanted to try Hop in the Dark
Now might be a perfect opportunity.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Needs to be enjoyed by itself??
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That is my dilemma right now
I want to try it with a float, but I have yet to try it period.
Gonna need a second bottle.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
There we go! Perfect solution.
God dammit if my Fred Meyer is out of it, I’m gonna be pissed.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
That eases all my concerns.
Wait, what the hell is FTB??
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Full Throttle Bottles in South Seattle.
Their selection is good, but they do seem a bit pricey.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed.
A mixed six-pack of decent but not amazing session beers usually runs $12-$14 and they’re consistently higher by a buck or so on bombers than most other bottle shops.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
That's exactly right.
Since we’re talking about Hop in the Dark, FTB charged me $1.50 more for a Hop in the Dark bomber than did the Vashon Thriftway.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
How much is Hop in the Dark in Seattle?
Down here it looks like it’s ~$6-6.50 per bottle
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
At FTB it was a bit over $7; at the Thriftway it was $5.50 or so.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Bottleworks and Pike Beer and Wine are both a bit better in terms of selection and price.
With that said, I love the people at FTB so I’m willing to pay a little more.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I like them too.
They have great knowledge and are very helpful.
Plus I get 11% off about every second time at the store.
Oh ok thanks.
Way too far of a drive for me, but I’ll remember it for the next time I’m in the Seattle area.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Same thing, unfortunately.
I’m on the other side of the water. Kitsap.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a place in Poulsbo called Europa Bottleshop.
Never been but I’ve heard it’s good.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow somehow I haven't heard of that before
I’ll have to check it out tonight.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
If Europa doesn't work out, one other option is to take the Vashon ferry and shopping at the Vashon Thriftway.
It’s still not incredibly close and it’s a pain to catch the ferry, but the selection of craft beer is fantastic and the pricing is excellent. Despite my proximity to FTB, I make a point of stopping into the Thriftway at least quarterly to stock up.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Do halfsies!
A bomber will have enough. Although I won’t dissuade you from buying multiple bottles.
by Eyebrows on Jul 21, 2010 3:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This was my second thought
And the more likely one, since I can do it sooner.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Finally tried this last weekend.
MMMMMMmmmmmm….
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Imperial Stouts also work well.
Old Rasputin with caramel ice cream is an amazing combination.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 21, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I was out at the store last night and couldn't find that
but I did find Double Mocha Porter.
For Seattleites, where do I find this stuff? Do I have to go to a specialty place?
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting .375 with 4 RBI, for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It's surprising that you found the Double Mocha and not the Chocolate Stout.
Normally I see the Chocolate Stout anywhere that has Rogue Beers.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Way to go, QFC.
Way to be predictable.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting .375 with 4 RBI, for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 21, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Young's Double Chocolate Stout and a good vanilla ice cream
“Good” being defined as “natural vanilla” not that chemically laden crap.
This sounds good as well
I don’t think any of my local stores carry it though.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Up by Poulsbo on the Kitsap peninsula
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
They didn't the last time I checked
Had the Porter and the Double Mocha Stout. Perhaps I missed it though.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you tried Hot shots java, Sluys, or Liberty Bay bakery?
They might have it.
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 21, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
How about Brown Shugga
Anyone want to chime in on this?
by Eyebrows on Jul 21, 2010 3:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I had never heard of it until now
And just to be safe, I googled it in an incognito window.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 21, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Thing a barleywine might be a bit too much for a beer float, but if there's one that would work Brown Shugga would be it.
It’s got a nice sweetness to it.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
So...the Portland Beavers may not move to Tucson after all; Escondido suddenly looks likely
Thoughts, San Diego people?
I apologize if this was discussed a few off-tops/a couple of hours ago.
It's neat, but I live so close to Petco and the Padres are so cheap anyway ($17 Toyota Terrace seats last time!) that I don't think I'd ever attend a Beavers game
that and Escondido blows worse than Tacoma
by seattlebruin on Jul 21, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It's in the 26th minute right now
You haven’t missed much yet.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Solid point.
They are atrocious. I take it you found a stream?
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate those floppy collars
The new sponsor logo isn’t good either. Also they’re red, which, you know.
They’re not quite as bad as I first thought but I still think they’re ugly.
I love collars on football shirts and want every team to have them again
it annoys me that ManUre are sporting them this year because now they’ll be “trendsetters”.
Late to the party!
1) Have three tattoos: Wolf on my left shoulder; family crest on my left leg; the silhouette of Paul Simonon smashing his bass from the cover of London Calling on my back. My next endeavor is to get a leg sleeve of this on my right leg.
2) Preppy slacker? I buy most of my non-business from the GAP clearance section and whatever is on sale at the time.
3) Aisde from necessities, a cigar most likely.
4) A hat from my bachelor party.
Clan crest badge from my father's side.
Armigerous clan though, so I can’t really act all high and mighty.
EVERYBODY MUST WATCH THIS
I JUST FOUND IT ON MY OWN A MOMENT AGO AND IT MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD I ALMOST PIDDLED
by tootthekazoo on Jul 21, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!
I saw this yesterday, but never saw it compiled with the intro – HELL YES.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 22, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Obviously.
It’s not like it’s the players faults at all…
And they've all moved on to Ichiro.
guess I’ll just wait that ten minutes to pre-game out in silence.
yes, but how many of them want Lou to come back?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 21, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, by golly they wouldn't be playing this way if Lou were here.
apparently they haven’t see the old Rays or the current Cubs.
My dad told me he was once at a game where he let Freddy Garcia throw 150+ pitches.
You stay the hell away from Felix’s and Pineda’s labrums.
Must have been
this game. Not quite 150 pitches, but 141 is still a crazy amount.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 22, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
Blengino has to be tearing his hair out to an even greater degree than the blogosphere does.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't think so.
But then again. Mike Sweeney.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 22, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
has not performed nearly as badly as we feared, and definitely better than Griffey
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
That's the funny thing about Sweeney. Our biggest complaint early on has faded because we have many worse problems.
Still, he isn’t a useful DH and it wasn’t a good decision.
And most peoples complaint about keeping Sweeney was it cost us Ryan Garko
Who’s awful. Instead of complaining that it completely crippled our bench.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 22, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I was mad because keeping Sweeney meant we were likely going to be stuck with him no matter how much he sucked.
No one would have cared if we kept Garko and later cut him.
I wanted Garko AND hated that Sweeney crippled our bench!
Damn you, Garko.
If only he could hit and play a position!
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 22, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
At least he wouldn't forget to cover the base
On a ball hit to Figgins. Fuck You Sweeney!
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 22, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think this is allowed.
Could be wrong, though.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 22, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, in retrospect, that's one of those decisions where the coaching staff knew more than us.
People in Texas’ organization have been repeating the same sentiment: that he just appears to have given up or simply lost all baseball skill.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 22, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Style, now the balls in Farnsworth's court
1) Do you have any tattoos? If so where and what? If not, any reasons (or lack thereof)?
Nope! But I want them, I want to be in better shape first. Want the rebel alliance symbol from star wars, an octopus, and the black flag logo.
2) What’s your style? Do you associate yourself by a brand, type of clothing, or class of people when you dress?
I dress pretty classic. For work I wear a suit and tie, going out, jeans and a button up shirt, and in the winter it’s the same but a sweater layered over said shirt.
3) What things can you find on your person at all times, regardless of situation?
I don’t know if there’s anything that meets aid criteria!
4) Do you have something that you own for sentimental reasons that nobody would think has value?
Oh, lots of things. Ticket stubs mostly.
Where are you planning on getting your bars?
Also: Just straight bars? I’ve seen some interesting variations, ranging from state outlines to four strips of bacon.
Probably on my chest
My future profession is kind of anti visible tattoos, I mean I’d be wearing long sleeves anyways – but sometimes I like to roll them up.
by ungoreatstefan on Jul 22, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Back from beer run
2x Hop in the Dark
Hop Stoopid
Racer 5
Dogfish 60
Stone Ruination
Stone Smoked Porter
Rogue Double Mocha Porter
I’m set for a while.
Karma police, arrest this man.
I love that I have gotten the point where I can recognize and appreciate all of those
A year or two ago I would have been totally clueless. Yay LL and Beer!
by seattlesundevil on Jul 22, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
This looks a bit like the inventory in my beer fridge. Here's the list:
2x Hop in the Dark
2X Hopstoopid
2x Jubel 2010
Racer 5
Stone Ruination
Green Flash IIPA
Lost Abbey Serpants Stout
Ninkasi Total Domination IPA
Notradamis Belgian Brown
Sofie Belgian
~12 Ranger IPA
I like this subthread.Whats your current Beer inventory?
3 Tall Boy Busch Lights
3 21 Amendment Watermelon Wheats
Alaskan Summer Ale
Many bottles of my shitty homebrew
4 year old Mikes hard limeonade
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 22, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Inventory:
Bombers:
8x Jubel 2010
2x Black Butte XX
1x Double Bastard
1x Dicks Danger Ale
1x Alameda somethingorotherthatIcan’tremember Stout
1x Ninkasi Total Dom
Normal size bottles:
6x Anderson Valley Summer Solstice
6x Black Butte Porter (there are pretty much always six of these in the fridge as this is my wife’s default beer)
2x Dead Guy
1x Monkey Face Porter
1x Longboard Lager
1x Prima Pils
3x Redbridge
Various shitty beers and at at least one Mike’s Hard Lemonade that people brought to the last party we had which will sit in the crisper drawer until the next party we have
I cleaned out the fridge last night so I had a pretty good picture of what's there
And the bombers are in the wine fridge which gets opened a lot to get the wine out.
Mine:
3X Tsingtao (leftovers from a parts that have languished)
1X Fat Tire (same)
4X Deschutes Abyss
4X DFH Festina Peche
2X DFH 120 Minute IPA
1X DFH Brown
1X Full Sail Reserve Barleywine
1X Stone Old Guardian Barleywine
1X Deschutes Jubel 2010
1X Deschutes Mirror Mirror
1X Epic Solar Trans-Amplifier
1X Lagunitas WTF
1X Allagash Black
1X Russian River Consecration
2X Russian River Pliny the Elder
1X Dick’s IPA
4X Boundary Bay Scotch Ale
4X Oskar Blues Ten Fidy
3X Oskar Blues Old Chub
4X Oskar Blues Yella Pils
1X Weihenstephaner Weiss Beer
Gah – I have a lot of beer. Plus a few other odds and ends that I can’t quite remember. There’s an oddball porter and an oddball IPA that I can’t recall.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, right.
I just remembered:
1X Maui Coconut Porter
1X Speedway Stout
1X Deschutes Hop in the Dark
1X Avery Maharaja
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
This might take a while and be very incomplete
20x Coors Light
5x New Belgium Ranger
18x Pacifico Cerveza
1x Jolly Pumpkin Luciernaga
1x Dogfish Head 120 Minute Imperial IPA
2x The Lost Abbey Red Poppy 2010
4x The Bruery Coton
2x The Lost Abbey Framboise de Amorosa
1x Cantillon Rose de Gambrinus =(
1x Allagash Interlude
1x Full Sail Hop Pursuit
1x Full Sail Vesuvius
1x Brooklyn #1
1x Brooklyn #2
1x Southampton Saison
1x Boulevard Farmhouse Saison
1x Saint Somewhere Saison Athene
2x Stone Russian Imperial Stout 2010
1x The Lost Abbey Cuvee de Tomme 2009
1x The Lost Abbey Angel’s Share 2009
1x The Lost Abbey Angel’s Share Grand Cru #1
3x Oskar Blues Ten Fidy
1x Maui CoCoNut Porter
2x Kona Pipeline Porter
1x Deschutes Black Butte XXI
1x Deschutes The Abyss 2009
1x Deschutes Mirror Mirror 2008
1x Southern Tier Gemini
1x Southern Tier Unearthly
1x Southern Tier Oat
1x Midnight Sun Monk’s Mistress
1x Midnight Sun Kodiak
1x Midnight Sun Sockeye
1x Midnight Sun Arctic Rhino
1x Cascade Blackberry Ale
1x Cascade Kriek
1x Cascade Apricot Ale
1x Karl Strauss 21st Anniversary
1x New Belgium Lips of Faith Belgian Blonde Ale
2x New Belgium Lips of Faith La Folie 2010
1x Great Divide Barrel-Aged Yeti Imperial Stout
1x Deschutes Jubel 2010
1x Dogfish Head Red and White
1x The Bruery White Oak
1x The Bruery Hottenroth Berliner Weisse
1x The Bruery Barrel-Aged Autumn Maple
1x Panil Bariquee
1x Goose Island Pere Jacques
1x Goose Island Summer Ale
1x Bell’s Amber Ale
2x Russian River Sanctification
1x Goose Island Night Stalker
1x Avery Fifteenth Anniversary
Probably a lot of other stuff I’m forgetting.
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's 3 ft x 1 ft, so unless you are secretly Nate Robinson, I doubt this
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
And if you are secretly Nate Robinson
Fuck right off.
by Eyeball Kid on Jul 22, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess I should have said "I could live out of your beer fridge"
Also, how does all that beer fit in that little fridge?
Holy mother of god.
You win, not just on quantity but on quality. I’d love to spend some quality time with the contents of your beer fridge.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I have a lot of stuff I forgot
Port Santa’s Little Helper 2009
Port Older Viscosity 2008
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I really need to make a beer run.
These are all leftovers.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 22, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Inventory
Random 2 coronas (can’t stand the stuff, probably from a party)
Smirnoff Ice Sour Apple? (See above party comment)
1x Racer 5
1x Hop In The Dark
1x Abyss 2010
1x Rogue Chocolate Stout
1x Rodenbach
2x Festina Peche
2x Obsidian Stout
Check back tomorrow after I go beer shopping.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 22, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I love how everyone (myself included) rationalizes having shitty beers in their fridge by blaming their party-attending friends
Thats what happens.
Except the Busch Light – I bought that.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 22, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, absolutely!
My mom drinks Corona, my friends drink Rolling Rock and Corona and the women all drink the Smirnoff. Then I pull out my bomber of Racer 5 and my hefes.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 22, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I rationalize it because fuck no are random at my house touching the Southern Tier or Midnight Sun bottles I have lying around
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I am the same way. I tell people to go grab a beer and I will castrate them if they take my good stuff.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 22, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
We have two beer fridges
people know by now not to touch mine unless given specific permission
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
But the B fridge is so well stocked anyway, most people don't notice
I think we have two cases of beer at least right now
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
You know, this is a good opportunity to check what beer I have in stock...
6 Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA
1 Dogfish Head Aprihop
6 New Belgium Abbey
1 New Belgium Fat Fire
2 Deschutes Green Lakes
3 Deschutes Twilight
2 Sierra Nevada Pale Ales
3 Prohibition Speakeasy
3 Saidson du Buff
2 Deschutes Black Butte XXI
2 Deschutes Hop in the Dark
1 Rogue Hazelnut Brown Nectar
1 La Fin Du Monde
1 Left Hand St. Vrain
1 Epic Ales Otto-Optimizer
1 Epic Ales Terra Saurus
2 Hair of the Dog Fred
2 Hair of the Dog Matt
2 2009 The Abyss
1 Epic Ales Solar Trans Amplifier
1 Saison de Lente (I really need to get on this one)
2 2010 Jubel
1 Goose Island 2009 Christmas Ale
1 Isabelle Proximus
6 Sierra Nevada Bigfoot Ale
1 Lost Abbey 10 Commandments
1 Lost Abbey Judgment Day
1 2008 St. Bernardus Christmas Ale
1 Lost Abbey Serpent Stout
1 Brothers Thelonious
by katal on Jul 22, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. That's an excellent collection.
And it reminds me I have a La Fin Du Monde and a Brother Thelonius as well.
Dammit, now I want to drink beer.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
LOVE Fin Du Monde, definitely going to pick one up tomorrow
by seattlesundevil on Jul 22, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I was trying to introduce good beer to a South Dakota cousin of mine who principally drinks Miller Lite.
I started her off with Racer 5 and then moved on to Fin Du Monde – it’s a testament to how accessible and tasty they both are that she loved them both.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Started off with Racer 5? That's impressive.
I tried starting off a friend with some of my bomber of Racer 5 and he took a sip and was done. Too bitter for him.
by seattlesundevil on Jul 22, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
If I can pick one bottle from your collection, you can pick ten from mine =)
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
(and I'd love to trade for some Epic stuff sometime, even if Kirsten is unimpressed)
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I really like it.
It’s so readily available here though, I’m happy to just give you some next time you’re up. Or I can mail it, just let me know.
Epic is great stuff.
The Otto Optimizer is more of a dessert beer in my opinion. It’s well balanced and quite complex. (my next beer float is going to be Otto)
Terra Saurus is very earthy. It’s also good but not one that I personally would drink more than 1 or 2 bottles a year.
If you like a basic ale Simple Ale is fucking heaven in a bottle.
Hey, I'll trade an Epic for ten of your bottles! :-)
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Offer extends to Mr. Katal only >:(
unless Mrs. Katal would like to let me raid their cupboard
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
(but yes, I do want to trade more!)
beer tLLading is awesome
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
POST THIS IN THE NEW THREAD NOW SO THAT ALL MAY SEE
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Jeff Nye, Dave, all the other mods across the way-- how do you keep from tearing your hair out at times?
“The problem is simpler than you’re making it out to be. Baseball players and fans with a high level of knowledge about the game understand the situation. Rotisserie geekdom does not. "
Well, I'm semi-retired, but the short answer is
That we don’t avoid it tearing our hair out. I’ve sent Dave and Derek some incredibly frustrated emails, and gotten equally frustrated responses.
But most of the worst people find no traction for their stupidity and move on, eventually.
There’s always more to take their place, though.
I was so excited to read that there is a former "high level pitcher" as well as the employee of an unnamed baseball organization now reading the site
I don't want to give away too much of anyone's personal info or drag too much USSM drama over here
But there’s about a 1% chance that the guy claiming to be a baseball org employee was telling the truth, based on what I can see.
If he DOES work for a baseball org, it’s probably as a really minor scout or roving instructor type. Certainly no one who will make you go “wow”.
"The short answer is we don't"
Yes, that seems about right…
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 22, 2010 5:14 AM PDT up reply actions
And we all knew that Salk's post about Rob Johnson was going to be a train wreck.
I’m sortof surprised he didn’t post it with comments off, but maybe he figured it’d just bleed into other comment threads anyway.
Have you listened to some of his callers?
I think they are the same demographic.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
Every time somebody says that, I want Theo Epstein to come to their house and shit in their fridge.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
I can't wait
Watching tweets from Dave, Jeff, and Divish made the last few innings hilarious.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 21, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He's basically become Yuni.
Let’s hope our next infield of the future works out a lot better than the last one.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 21, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you see Dave, Divish, and Jeff's Twitter feeds?
Epic.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff's Jose Lopez tweets still have me laughing.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 21, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Salk used the word preposterous. Mariners!
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
I have some serious issues with some of the conclusions Dave is drawing.
He’s right, Lopez needs to be gone, but there’s no need to assault his character.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
While Shannon is easier on most of the players (she was even easier on Yuni for the most part)
She seems to have a very different opinion of Lopez. That may be a front, but she always seems to make special note of his extras efforts. Maybe that’s because he does it so infrequently, but from everything I’ve heard, I don’t think he deserves quite the same level of derision as Yuni got. Which, at this point, he’s getting.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 21, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's Divish's comments from the 10th inning on his liveblog at TNT
Words escape me at this point because of my anger. But in a season of bad base running mistakes, Jose Lopez just made the worst. In a 0-0 game with a runner in front of him, he was doubled off on a soft liner that Andruw Jones made a diving catch on to end the inning. That is simple inexcusable. HIS RUN MEANS NOTHING!
If you need a reason why Wakamatsu shouldn’t be fired, Jose Lopez is exhibit A.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Dave's interview on Brock and Salk tomorrow should be entertaining
I wonder what they’ll talk about…
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Anger is fine but the Doritos stuff, the insinuation that he doesn't give a shit and the fact that the piece is more about his character than his ability bothers me
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Usually I disagree with things you take offense to...
But I’m with you on this one. Some of that shit was vicious.
Well, it's easily observable that Lopez has gained a lot of weight over the years
And nothing about his conduct or his play makes it seem that he cares about even trying to play well.
Granted, that rant is very much Angry Dave, and it might be a little over the top in parts, but any professional athlete that can’t be bothered to take care of their bodies and seems as lackadaisical as Lopez does on a daily basis opens their character up to question.
Dave has zero basis on which to attack Lopez's personality
He has plenty of avenues to attack his skills. He chose the mean-spirited road.
I don’t buy any argument that says Jose Lopez doesn’t care. What I do buy is that he’s simply too stupid to be a good MLB player.
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 10 recs
That might've been a better way to approach it, but I can see why Dave wrote what he did, too.
I’d imagine there’s a certain amount of Yuni hangover in people’s minds too.
He's in pretty awful shape despite being a gifted athlete
that’s damning, though certainly not proof positive. But the fact that the organization made him pass a physical before giving him an extension speaks volumes.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 22, 2010 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Normally I'd agree whole-heartedly.
And I think Dave has always been too hard on Lopez. Yes, he’s frustrating, but he has historically been a league-average player with a very reasonable paycheck.
But based on how specific Dave was and his normal disinclination to attack a player’s character, I wonder if he has some inside information that’s fueling this. Also, if there’s any occasion in which one could draw the conclusion that a player is lazy, wouldn’t that occasion be Jose Lopez? Dave draws a pretty damning timeline of how Lopez has, if anything, regressed as he has come into what should be his peak. All of the evidence at our disposal says that he’s unfocused and not improving. Perhaps lazy is harsh, but it’s at least in the same area code.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter whether he actually has inside information
Unless he’s going to source it, he shouldn’t be attacking his personality. If you have two hypotheses, and the information that you’re willing to share doesn’t distinguish one from another, go with the one that doesn’t attack a guy personally.
by Graham MacAree on Jul 22, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dave has always attacked Jose Lopez personally, so I just don't a shit at this point
short story short, fuck Dave Cameron
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lopez gained weight around that time.
Guess who else did? Felix. Anyone gonna accuse him of not caring?
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 21, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Lopez did, like Felix, keep his weight in check.
I don’t understand why people still assault him for that. Many young ballplayers have gone through similar things. Some shaped up, some didn’t. Lopez did, and people still accuse him of loving food and being a fatass. I really can’t understand. Why Lopez and not Felix?
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 21, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Because Felix is good and Lopez is bad and when people don't like someone they will be as mean as possible about it.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a difference between making jokes and writing a public post (as a respected author!) in that vein
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, if you're going to be mean, you should make it funny
Jeff’s twitter vs. Dave’s post is a perfect example
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Dave doesn't have Jeff's gift for humor
Never has. Derek was always the funny one.
Dave is a baseball analyst and USSM is a really popular website.
I’m half the writer he is but I also know better than to post when I’m still angry about something.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Like I said, I'm mostly playing devil's advocate and I would've liked to see Dave be a bit more tactful myself
But I can TOTALLY see how Jose Lopez would piss people off and I can’t bring myself to want to crucify them for it.
That was awesoms
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 21, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
And also most people attack Rob Johnson for being a terrible baseball player, not perceived character flaws
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Preparation and effort are part of being a good baseball player.
It’s not like Dave accused Lopez of being a child molester; he said he doesn’t take good care of himself and doesn’t seem to care about what happens on the field.
(in a rather mean way but that is the basis of the post)
None of those things are falsified by what we can observe about Jose Lopez. I too think that the likely reason for same is that he’s just not very bright; but we might all be wrong about that and Lopez might very honestly not give a crap.
Not being able to falsify something through observation is not sufficient evidence that it is true.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
A reasonable, possibly libelous hypothesis
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
No but I think there's a great deal more evidence that he's dumb than there is that he doesn't care
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that the evidence we have, which is almost nonexistent
Pretty much fits either hypothesis equally.
But I’m clearly swimming against the current here, so I’ll bow out.
The fact that he made it to the major leagues makes it very hard for me to believe he doesn't care
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, whatever.
I’m just trying to get people to look at the other side and realize that the situation isn’t quite as black and white as they’re making it out to be; but right now I sortof feel like people are using me as a proxy for their being pissed off at Cameron, and that’s not exactly fair.
So, I’m done for now. I need to cool off.
I'm with Jeff in thinking there's not a huge difference between calling Lopez dumb and saying he doesn't care.
Both are rather personal, and we don’t have firm evidence for either.
But I’m not sure how confident I am in the statement that all players who make it to the major leagues care in the sense that is being used here – that they are focused, hard workers who are always striving for improvement. There are hundreds of players in the majors and they probably encompass a spectrum of caring, roughly defined by Ichiro on one end and Yuni on the other, and looking at unrealized potential that has not been affected by injury seems like not a bad way to judge it.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I definitely don't want to be in the camp defending Lopez's intelligence.
That would be a pretty untenable position! But it doesn’t seem right to me that attacking Lopez’s motivation based on his lack of progress and mental errors is over the line, because really we should understand that he’s just stupid.
That’s paraphrasing, but that seems like the argument to me.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree. The two are separate.
Maybe he just doesn’t understand and that’s hard to hold against him if he doesn’t have the capacity. Still, boy would it have been nice to trade him to the Royals after last year when he still had some semblance of trade value.
"Still, boy would it have been nice to trade him to the Royals after last year when he still had some semblance of trade value."
This is the truest truth to come out of this thread.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Jose Lopez thought Yuni was lazy.
That’s damning.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 22, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
So would it have been reasonable to assume that Bedard was in fact a pussy prior to his surgery this offseason?
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's the exact same logic.
It drives me insane when people insinuate professional athletes don’t care. It’s a convenient thing to believe, but it’s almost universally untrue.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
How so?
The accusation is just as baseless in both cases. Here the argument is that Jose Lopez isn’t bad because he’s bad, he’s bad because he doesn’t care and because of that he doesn’t try as hard as he could. That’s exactly what people were saying about Bedard, that he wasn’t trying hard enough because he lacked the competitive drive to try his hardest.
Bedard isn't a pussy; he couldn't perform because he was hurt.
That’s an extremely clear reason why he couldn’t perform, and the casual fans who don’t see that are rightly ridiculed. There’s no evidence remotely as hard for why Lopez makes his mental errors, and to conflate the two seems unfair.
by Chris Hafner on Jul 22, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
We didn't know he was pitching poorly at the time because he was hurt
People just assumed it was because he was a pussy. Now people are just assuming that Lopez is not trying his best. Both are jumping to conclusions about a persons character. What if his best is just really crappy? He has always made a lot of mental errors, that is the only evidence you have for calling him lazy, but he could easily just be a retard too, or to be more PC about it, maybe he just lacks good baseball smarts or the ability to think on his feet. We don’t know the reason, so we shouldn’t jump to conclusions that assault a persons character rather than their ability. It’s the same thing, pretty much exactly.
Being an infielder and being a pitcher require just a teensy bit different levels of athleticism
Or have you not seen the double-wide trailer that used to be CC Sabathia lately?
Aw nuts
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 22, 2010 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't find this to be a very good excuse.
Being an overweight pitcher has consequences. Though it hasn’t affected CC Sabathia (yet, anyway), it does increases injury risk.
It’s also irrelevant. The issue at hand is whether Lopez is lazy or doesn’t care. If you said “Felix is fat and unmotivated but it doesn’t matter as much for a pitcher,” then I could accept such a premise.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 22, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
There is evidence that heavier set pitchers are more durable than the those in the Jered Weaver mold
However, MIFs utterly depend on agility and range both of which suffer immediately upon weight gain. Anyway, this is a tangential argument.
I don’t want to rehash what was said before, but it seems to me that people are saying DC was wrong to question Lopez’ drive and focus, because Lopez is simply baseball stupid. I find that line of thinking both more insulting to Lopez and less supported by what we’ve seen. Anyhow… I just hope he’s gone soon.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 22, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
They used to say the same thing about Freddy Garcia.
That he had the body of a horse.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 22, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Weight gain has very different effects on pitchers and middle infielders.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 22, 2010 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
(please note also that I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here)
I do agree with Dave’s idea of DFAing him, as I don’t see him being an asset either on the team or in a trade; but I would’ve liked to see a bit softer piece as well.
But I can totally see where Dave is coming from.
"And nothing about his conduct or his play makes it seem that he cares about even trying to play well."
Yeah, I disagree. I think it’s pretty clear that he’s not the brightest bulb on the tree, but I think it’s going too far to draw the conclusions Dave has.
I don’t like Lopez, I don’t think he’s very smart and his at-bats were painful to watch even when he was hitting well. And I think that because of this people project a lot of things onto him that aren’t fair.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 21, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yaaaaayyyyyy
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 22, 2010 5:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, some of those points were valid and others were just angry conjecture.
Seems like it’s all been said above though.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 22, 2010 5:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Everybody's pretty much exhausted this topic, but I just want to add 1 more thing
Having had to watch the debacle that was last night’s game in person, I completely understand the place of anger that Dave wrote this piece from.
Even though we won yesterday’s game, it was insanely frustrating and angering to watch the M’s make multiple, inexcusable, back-breaking blunders. And Lopez was the worst.
It was even worse than the 0-0 tie that Lee pitched a few months ago that ended in the 12th (13th?) after we couldn’t get a run in, despite having runners on 3rd with less than 2 outs, multiple times.
M’s repeatedly getting 0-2 counts with runners on base. Bard failing a sac bunt. Lopez GIDP. Langerhans pickle. And Felix was pitching a gem…it was such a waste. I swear, every mistake made me feel like someone just punched Felix in the face. How could you go out and pitch such a gem, watching your team put up 0 after 0 and shitting on every opportunity with ridiculous little league mistakes?
Well, fuck.
Felix was ummm, relatively pissed, after the game about having to come out. There is word that he threw a tantrum in the dugout..
No worries
He’ll have forgotten all about it when it comes time to extend him
by Graham MacAree on Jul 21, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This is one thing he's going to have to learn to understand.
You can’t throw until your arm falls off. You’ve been left in more times than any pitcher in baseball.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 21, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
No one is surprised.
I always think of Felix as the Black Knight in the Holy Grail … he’d try to stay out there with all his arms and legs off …. “Come back here and take what’s coming to you! I’ll bite your legs off!”
Oh I know
I wish he didn’t kick and scream in a season down the tubes after we’ve already been riding him into the ground.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 21, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Felix probably could have stayed in the game and been just fine.
He was dominating tonight and I think he could have continued to dominate until about 120 pitches.
I'd rather we just let him throw 100-110 like most everyone else gets yanked at and if he wants to stay in the game to finish it off well beyond that limit, too bad.
Tell him he has to be more efficient with his pitches if he wants to throw a complete game every time he goes out there, a challenge like that seems like something he’d respond to rather than just telling him tough nanners we’re taking you out.
Maybe Wak was just being a Realist
And if he left Felix in the game wasn’t going to end.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 22, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Is anybody here familiar with how to treat poison ivy or how to preform self amputation on your hand?
Anyone have any bad experience with famous athletes or celebrities?
Last night I went bowling at Imperial, and Nate Robinson showed up and bowled with like 20 of his buddies. During the night I watched him knock people he didn’t know over without apologizing, get $150.00 in food without tipping, slam into people that he didn’t know when he got a strike, even when they weren’t looking, and publicly embarrass a 30ish year old woman that was trying to congratulate him for a good strike by rubbing himself on her without her permission and then pushing her away with his crotch before slamming his chest and walking away while she struggled to hold back tears and shame.
...and now I'm here
That's appalling.
Otherwise, I don’t think I’ve really met anyone famous.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 22, 2010 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Ever had an experience where the hate grows the more you think about it?
I left the bowling alley feeling annoyed, got home feeling pissed, and I now wish disease on the people he holds dear.
...and now I'm here
It'll peak and then you'll come down to a fairly stable level of hatred.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 22, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't believe I've really ever met anybody famous either
I stood behind Meredith Baxter in line at the Getty in LA once, that’s about as close as I got. Afterwards I felt strangely compelled to make a Lifetime movie of the week.
David Bazan (Pedro the Lion) came into the record store I was working at.
Super quiet, and just about the most polite guy I’ve ever met.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 22, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually now I think about my retail days I have run into a few famous people
Nancy Wilson was a fairly regular customer at my video store, and one time I met River Phoenix – he hid from a gaggle of stalkerific teenage girls in my video store’s bathroom while filming Dogfight at the late lamented Five-O Tavern across the street (which is now the Hopvine).
Nobody famous ever wanders into my office to hide in the bathroom these days.
I love Bazan.
Yep, record stores are where to bump into those people. I once told D.L. Hughley’s wife he wasn’t funny (accidentally). I helped David Bowie find a record he was looking for. I helped dozens of people pay for their items because it was store policy that if a famous person came shopping a manager had to be their cashier. Beck, Elvis Costello, Richard Branson, a whole bunch of numbnuts.
Oh, and I stalked Drew Barrymore in 1994 or something.
Tracked her down at Linda’s. I think I scared the poor thing.
Duff McKagan, Dale Chihuly and Dave Matthews were all regulars at the movie theatre I used to work at.
Duff was amazing and thought it was cool that I knew he was in the Fastbacks. Dale Chihuly was as big an asshole as you will ever meet and he theatre hopped, which pissed me off. Dave Matthews was just a dude.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 22, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
About 10 years ago I entered a contest at Lava Lounge.
Person who won the raffle got to smash a Chihuly piece with a baseball bat. I WON. It was one of the most glorious moments of my life. I’d like to poke his other eye out.
by royalcurve on Jul 22, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was there!
I entered that contest too and I was so amazingly envious that someone who was not me actually won. It’s even more awesome that it was you.
I feel the same way about him that I do Jackson Pollock.
Congratulations on creating a unique style of art. Guess what, it isn’t actually all that neat outside of the creation itself and doing the same thing over and over is uninteresting.
I still maintain Jackson Pollock knew exactly what he was doing and it was an elaborate joke on the art world
No no no no.
Yellow is self-realization and contentment with your station in life. A grey line is the torment.
by Eyebrows on Jul 22, 2010 9:36 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I saw a piece in the SAM that was this exactly.
What killed me is the artist probably spent months staring at this stupid 8 1/2 × 11″ sheet of paper before drawing that line.
So what's your take on Marcel Duchamp?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 22, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Personal assistant to Bowie and destroyer of Chihuly's stupid glass shit
How did I not know this? Is it possible for me to love you any more? BK better watch his back.
by Eyebrows on Jul 22, 2010 9:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
THAT WAS YOU
I HAVE SECRETLY LOVED YOU FOR SO LONG
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 22, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've moved on though
so don’t worry, we’re cool now.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 22, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Pagliacci delivers to Dave Matthews.
People who met him affirm that he is, in fact, just a dude, who happens to tip decently.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jul 22, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
What a fucktard.
This is where I’d get beaten up by someone’s posse, because I couldn’t resist making loud dickish comments to a guy in a situation like that. I hate that that’s acceptable behavior if you’re a bazillionaire athlete.
This really doesn't surprise me.
Which is to bad.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 22, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
That's fucking bullshit.
I feel bad for you (and that woman, and everyone else at the bowling alley) that you were forced to deal with that. Screw Nate Robinson.
It's similar to what pdb wrote a few posts above.
There are certain levels of assholeness that I really can’t abide. I wish I had been there.
Not anywhere that would cripple or kill me.
Then the settlement money comes pouring in.
I've heard some pretty assholetacular stories about Nate Robinson
by seattlebruin on Jul 22, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
That makes me pretty happy I don't work at Imperial anymore.
I have some people to ask about this, though.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting .375 with 4 RBI, for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 22, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Nobody in the world likes Nate Robinson
He is a world class asshole. Apparently wherever he’s played he’s left a trail of people who despise him, so that sounds like par for the course.
I know I'm late to the party, but here are my answers...
1. One tattoo. It’s the face of Alexander (about the size of a Ritz cracker) on my left calf. Alexander is the character from my favorite book as a kid, “Alexander And The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day.” Maybe I’ll get more during a midlife crisis…
2. Shorts and T-shirts as much as possible in the summer, jeans and hoodies in the winter. Mostly baseball and punk rock T-shirts. Obviously I have to dress differently for work sometimes, but my job is mostly laid back, which is great.
3. Typical stuff – wallet (back right pocket), phone (front right pocket), keys (front left pocket). Is this typical?
4. I have a thick, brass keychain that used to belong to my grandfather that says “Damn I’m Good.” It’s awesome and I snagged it when my mom and her siblings were cleaning out his house after he died. I was in 8th grade, so it was well before I even needed a keychain, but I’ll have it forever.
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