Draft Thread, Rounds 2-30
The first day of the draft was excruciating. The first round featured 5+ minutes between picks leading into a completely unnecessary five minute break before finally picking it up to one minute for the compensation round. In all, it took about three hours, and the Mariners only had one pick that came towards the end of it.
With that one pick the Mariners grabbed a big high school right hander named Taijuan Walker, who you can read about here.
It was an interesting first day to be sure. Coming into the draft it looked as if no one had any idea where anyone was going after Harper, Taillon and Machado, and that's just how it played out. There is no shortage of quotes and tweets out there from industry veterans saying that this was one of the most hectic day ones ever. Several highly regarded players made it through day one without having their names called, leaving a better than expected group of players on the board for day two, including two of the players Seattle was connected to pre-draft - SS Marcus Littlewood and CF Joc Pederson - as well as high quality arms Stetson Allie, Brandon Workman, A.J. Cole, Brett Eibner* and position players Austin Wilson, Jedd Gyorko, among many others. That said, some of these guys could continue to tumble due to signability concerns.
*Eibner reportedly wants to be drafted as a position player, but teams prefer him as a pitcher.
Today's session - beginning at 9am PT (follow along here) - will see much quicker selections, but since they're covering 29 rounds it figures to take eight or nine hours. Pace yourself. Please don't stare at your monitor all day waiting for Seattle's picks. Break up your work day by checking in every so often. We'll update this with the picks as often we can.
Mariner Picks
Round 1: Taijuan Walker, RHP, Yucaipa HS (CA) [picked yesterday]
Round 2: Marcus Littlewood, SS, Pineview HS (UT)
Round 3: Ryne Stanek, RHP, Blue Valley HS (KS)
Round 4: James Paxton, LHP, Indy leagues
Round 5: Stephen Pryor, RHP, Tennessee Tech
Round 6: Christian Carmichael, C, Mililani HS (HI)
Round 7: Maguire Wiswall, 1B, Boston College
Round 8: Jabari Blash, RF, Miami Dade CC
Round 9: Luke Taylor, RHP, Woodinville HS (WA)
Round 10: Tyler Burgoon, RHP, Michigan
Round 11: Jon Keller, RHP, Xavier HS (IA)
Round 12: Stefan Romero, 3B, Oregon State
Round 13: Jason Markovitz, LHP, Cal St. Long Beach
Round 14: Tyler Linehan, LHP, Sheldon HS (CA)
Round 15: Charles Kaalekahi, RHP, Campbell HS (HI)
Round 16: Jordan Shipers, LHP, South Harrison HS (MO)
Round 17: Danny Lopez, SS, Pittsburgh
Round 18: William Kesler, RHP, New Mexico
Round 19: Frankie Christian, CF, Upland HS (CA)
Round 20: Matthew Bischoff, RHP, Purdue
Round 21: Luke Guarnaccia, C, St. Thomas Aquinas HS (FL)
Round 22: Stephen Landazuri, RHP, Carter HS (CA)
Round 23: Jandy Sena, RHP, Marion Military Institute
Round 24: Bennett Whitmore, LHP, Concordia
Round 25: Ernesto Zaragoza, RHP, Kaiser HS (CA)
Round 26: Robert Anston, CF, Boston College
Round 27: Nick Fleece, RHP, Texas A&M
Round 28: Tim Griffin, RHP, Rollins College
Round 29: Jonathan McGibbon, 1B, Lindehurst HS (NY)
Round 30: Derek Poppert, SS, U San Francisco
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Jon, Matthew and I are very busy today
Please be understanding if this post isn’t updated as often as you’d like.
I've seen that Boston and Texas have already signed some of their players for example..
What’s common practice as far as how soon those guys will be in the minors? Immediately, barring any other baseball commitments?
I'm just guessing here
but short-season A ball starts next week so I would assume a lot of the non-stud prospects will jump right in at that level, as you say barring any other commitments.
by pdb on Jun 8, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Pirates got Allie.
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And the MLB.com people are talking over it and missed it.
Professionals!
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
In your opinion is Taijuan better than Allie?
It seems Allie is more… polished?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope.
Taijuan was more signable though. His projections isn’t bad though, you just have to be confident that you can teach him a functional pitching motion.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
It was about time we started drafting pitchers early that were relatively new to baseball and/or were very projectable but had no command.
Finally.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
A lot of people like Mauricio Robles.
Not a draft pick, just point it out.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
*pointing
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Robles a lot.
Was he basically that same kind of pitcher at the time of the trade?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
Change-up wasn’t quite as good though.
He’s only been pitching for about four years.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
That may be going a bit far; he was a moderately successful guy in the FSL at the time of trade.
That’s a big difference from ‘HS kid who occasionally looks brilliant, occasionally gets blasted.’ But yes, both were quite raw.
Robles wasn't playing basketball though.
Probably because he’s 5’11.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
So yes, another reason why he's not perfectly analagous to Taijuan.
As raw as Robles was, he was putting up decent numbers in A+. Walker is an entirely different level of raw.
I'm only trying to say that because a guy hasn't been pitching long, he's not a horrible selection.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't say he was horrible.
Just that it’s nothing new to us.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm overreacting to everyone in the USSM comments screaming Ian Snell and Brandon Morrow.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Allie was ranked #8 prospect in the draft by BA
That really says how bad his signability made him fall. I wonder if being a round 2 pick will decrease his leverage much?
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably not.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I like what they are doing.
Last year they went cheap on Sanchez in the first round (but he’s playing well) to add higher-ceiling players in later rounds who dropped due to signability. Adding Taillon and Allie to the mix? Good stuff.
They'd better not have a mascot like the Teddy Bears or anything
by pdb on Jun 8, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm still hoping for Blasty The Dynamite Stick
by pdb on Jun 8, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not the Gladiators? Shame. Nitro was my favorite
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Wiki says Wildcats
BOOOOOOOORING
They should have some sort of anthropomorphized stick of dynamite as a mascot. Or a funny car.
by pdb on Jun 8, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
FUCK YES
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Can I pay you in money or beer to stick around and keep people better informed than any of us could?
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 8, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I need something to do between rounds
when I’m not researching every single name that comes up for the M’s.
I’m going to slip behind pretty quickly I think, it gets a little rapid fire later.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
They took Jedd Gyorko.
Sorry everyone.
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It was the Padres.
Those devils.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Jedd Gyorko should've gone to Nitro High School
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 8, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Should've gone to the Reds.
Fits perfectly with Yasmani and Yonder.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Two picks away...
quality players still available.
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And they're showing the wrong video for the Rays.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Marcus Littlewood.
hey, obvious.
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I don't think I need to recap this much.
Bad feet, great hands, debatable power output. A team would have to be confident that he can hit for power at third, otherwise he’s a utility guy.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
It wasn't a bad pick.
A lot of people loved the guy and thought he was a first-rounder. BA and others thought he was around 100 out of their top 200
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Nick Franklin at time of draft > Marcus Littlewood at time of draft?
And by how much?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, and by a fair amount.
Littlewood has a bit more power, but is less likely to stay at short.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Marcus Littlewood
M’s got their guy afterall
So we just drafted a guy who can't make contact, won't hit for power and probably doesn't stick at short?
sounds like a winner!
Not to make too big a deal of these things, but if he'll struggle to make contact and has debatable power output ...
Well, at least he’d be a good defender. Wait, he has bad footwork.
Churchill does have his scouts he likes to lean on.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
He's not going to be an all-star I don't think, but he can do it.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Could be.
But he’s a switch hitter and has a lot better hands. He’ll have similar trouble with bunts though.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of Mangini,
what the hell? Where’d the power come from?
It seems like a weirdly productive year for some of our downgraded hitting prospects.
Wilson, Halman, Mangini, Triunfel, Raben, Peguero
How different is the player development department under Zduriencik compared to Bavasi?
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 8, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
We're encouraging better plate discipline from our sluggers.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I was telling Scruffy last night, I really don't know.
His peripherals haven’t changed any, he’s posting a slightly worse eye, he’s just hitting for power now. I’d credit a mechanical tweak.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll have to look at his GB/FB/LD
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
So, mechanical tweak.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Right, that's nothing to knock him down over.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
He really should've had power to begin with; it's why he was drafted so high.
A mechanical tweak has to be part of the answer. Scouts never could figure out why he wasn’t hitting for more power in college, but after he couldn’t hit for power in Adelanto, I’d basically given up on him. Part of me still worries this is a SSS power binge that happen to everyone in the PCL eventually, but it’s really, really good to see with Mangini. Esp. with his defense, he’s simply got to have power to be useful. Now he looks useful.
Mangini can't field bunts.
Okay hands, but somewhat immobile.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike Morse 2.0!
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there any Langerhans type out there we want?
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
THE NEW WORKOUT REGIME SHOWING THROUGH!
by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 8, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
But seriously I wonder if this is making a difference because its completely focusing on hitting strength.
And Minor Leaguers are required to do it.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 8, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I read this as you bulking up
Then I chuckled
You never draft for need.
You don’t know what the needs are going to be by the time these guys are ready.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I was hoping for a killer whale response.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm also hoping for Garin Cecchini, who is a probabl third baseman.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Pittsburgh needs to develop a pitcher sometime this decade.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
At least they are giving themselves a chance to do so!
I have a soft spot for the Buccos. I’d like to see them do well.
There's at least a plan in order in Pitt, a franchise centerfielder, some decent prospects...
I like Pitt, but they do have a ways to go.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Boston doesn't seem to care about spending money in the draft. They just keep snatching up the
best college player left on the board with each pick. It’s disgusting. I’m envious.
The Rays are my bandwagon team purely because of Sale and Vettleson.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Most Northwest draft so far.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Angels stocking up on pitchers.
Well, at they rate they go through them…
by Eyebrows on Jun 8, 2010 9:43 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
And they, like the M's, went for hitters last year. I can't believe the ONE kid who's doing better than Franklin in the MWL
is Mike Trout. Damn Angels.
Trout can walk.
Franklin doesn’t very often, but has better power.
If Trout ends up being a corner outfielder, then I think we come out on top.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Does Franklin really project to have more power than Trout though?
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Right now, yeah.
It’s kind of bizarre, he has about as many home runs right now as we ever projected him to have.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Depends on a lot, but it really looks like Trout has elite contact skills
and if he can stay at CF, etc.
I’m ecstatic with Franklin, don’t get me wrong, and if he keeps this up, I don’t care about anything Trout does. But I find it odd that when we finally get a prospect to put up a nearly .400 wOBA as a teenager in the MWL, the Angels have a kid put up a .430. Show-offs.
Beat me to the punch.
Those were the three names I was going to hone in on.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I would love to get Gibbs. What's going on with the Wilson kid? No chance to buy him out of his
Stanford commitment? I love what I’ve seen of that kid.
Probably not.
I’d think the M’s have a chance because they are known to fund educations, as they’re going to with Baron, but it depends on if the kid wants to go to college sooner or is willing to put it off.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Law and Churchill.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Astros Astros Astros
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I've not been invited yet.
Though apparently I may be doing a radio gig in Spokane on Wednesday.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I could get it?
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
You could but its treatable
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You cut its head off, removed the innards, and skullfucked its eye sockets
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 8, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
You gave it back spasms
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I just wonder about how fair it is to judge the Astros when they haven't hadnt nearly as many picks as most teams.
Though in the last decade only 1 player they drafted has so far made the majors, Chris Burke. Jio Mier and Jason Castro look like decent prospects. Colby Rasmus might be enough to put the Cards over the ’Stros and Shelby Miller. But overall, they have stunk. The Cards that is.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Brett Wallace too, I think.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
And Daric Barton.
There’s more good there I suppose.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope, that was the Brewers.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
How about the Cubs?
Outside of easy pick Mark Prior, the cupboard is empty.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
He's one I'd be interested in.
The M’s liked him last year.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
He would be my top choice.
Though I wouldn’t be disappointed with Gibbs.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
We have to remember we're not the ones picking. They could be looking at someone totally different.
Which is the hard part about being the draft spectator.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I foresee a lot of "Who?" posts.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Look at who everyone else has picked
Who we want and who GMs want is different… On another note, there goes Gibbs
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Gibbs: gone.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
So without ever having seen him
and knowing he is from Utah and his father’s name is Mike, I ask – Marcus Littlewood – white or black?
Very white.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
His name is LITTLEwood, do the math
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 8, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Woman?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't expect the M's to draft a catcher any time soon.
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Get on the bandwagon damnit.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Ryne Stanek.
Okay… Midwest guy. Probably good.
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GREAT PICK
I think.
He’s basically the same build as Walker but he’s been pitching all the time.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Paxton may still be a tough sign
Especially for a 3rd rounder.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
True
but they seem to love their projectable power arms.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
But at that point you just offer him whatever money you think he's worth
there’s plenty of precedent for unsignable guys getting drafted in the tenth round or whatever and getting first or second round bonuses because they were actually good players
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Mid 2000s we draft no one shorter than 6'4.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's get another 7'1 center from the eastern hemisphere with the footwork of a glacier.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Glaciers have been showing improved footwork of late!
by Matthew on Jun 8, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Always on that cutting edge!
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
You can't teach height!
Though Swift, Petro, and Sene proved that you can’t really teach talent either.
by Chris Hafner on Jun 8, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder what Robert Swift is doing these days.
Scruffy: your assignment, if you choose to accept it, is to gif Robert Westervelt on top of Robert Swift in the mold of Master-Blaster from the funtimes 80s movie Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome.
From perfectgame.org
“Ryne Stanek is a 2010 RHP with a 6’4’’, 180 lb. frame from Overland Park, KS who attends Blue Valley HS. Slender young build, minimal present strength. Clean delivery, drives to the plate, long loose arm action, 3/4’s release, good out front. FB steady upper 80’s, projects more in future. CB shows nice sharpness, big 2-plane break, potential plus pitch, tends to aim CB to LHH’ers, good feel for change up. Good 3 pitch mix with idea on command, should continue to get stronger. Showed ability with the bat, some power potential. Strong follow for next year’s draft. Good student.”

by Eyebrows on Jun 8, 2010 10:03 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Is this his myspace? Can't check it at work:
by Eyebrows on Jun 8, 2010 10:02 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Just checked BA
Ryne Stanek is ranked the #42 best player, next to Tyrell Jenkins and James Paxton, for what thats worth
Seems like a pretty good pick.
Hope he’s not in love with Arkansas.
We've bought out Arkansas commitments before.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I missed it, are they talking about Germantown, TN?
Because Germantown, TN is a fucking hole.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 8, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
That's usually a hard commitment to pull someone away from.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
We sort of tried with Raben as a prep.
But we waited until the 49th round I think to take him. Then the next time around we grabbed him out of college.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm still very surprised he's left
Maybe he has made a strong committment.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
A.J. Cole is gone to the Nats.
Anyone on their bandwagon now?
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I remember last year when we didn't draft hardly any high school players.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Completely different draft to last year, and I like it.
Not that last year’s was bad, but I keep remembering McNamara’s point about grabbing the 3rd best hitter over the 17th best pitcher. I like getting the oh, 6th best prep arm over the 15th best college arm or 15th best prep bat or whatever.
It also shows that we're willing to go with what's on the board and aren't locked into any one philosophy.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Bryce Harper's brother and then accidentally write the contract with Bryce's name instead
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I was looking at Bryant earlier and he seemed interesting
But I kind of want a guy named Smelter.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
MLB.tv.
It’s every bit as painful as you’d think.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for a continuation of awesome drafting.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I still want Garin Cecchini.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
What's the word on Jesse Hahn?
Some of the Twitterers seem to be freaking out that he’s still available.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
College RHP.
Great stuff, debatable as to whether he ends up starting.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
By the fourth round, shouldn't we be open to drafting good relievers though?
they’re not hard to find, but good ones are still pretty useful. No, Josh Fields, I am not looking at you.
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
If we pass on him again I might actually be a little upset.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Cubs will grab him like they stole Gibbs.
by Eyebrows on Jun 8, 2010 10:31 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably not?
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Two Hunter's selected in a row.
I didn’t know there were two people named Hunter on the planet? Well besides Hunter S. Thompson.
I've got a nephew named Hunter.
Course, he is a Montana kid, so it fits…
by ExiledToSoCal on Jun 8, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
PAXTON!
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Are we happy?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
As T.I. would say:
Is you happy?
I fucking hate you Mariners
I'm ecstatic with this draft so far.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
YES YES YES
Wanted Littlewood, wanted Paxton. Walker is intriguing.
Huh
I guess I read the writeup on Littlewood wrong then. Seemed like a guy who was unlikely to become an impact player,
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
People are mixed on him.
I’m not one of his backers, but I think he could be good.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Well after Nick Franklin
I suppose we should just assume that every switch hitting middle infiielder we draft is going to be a pleasant surprise.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he's as good a fit for the organization and its strengths as any.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Or maybe Marcus Littlewood will wOBA .490 next year and some random Angels prospect can go fuck themselves after putting up a .479 wOBA
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I like this idea.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems like he is great at nothing, but also not particularly bad at anything either
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
This was my impression, but also that he wasn't all that toolsy
which seems like the kind of guy that stalls out at AA. Then again I formed my opinion by skimming Jay’s and Jon’s blurbs on him.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Jon was higher on him than I was.
I hated him at #43, but I can get on board at #67, particularly with how awesome the next two picks were.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you know much about Stanek pre-draft
or is this one of those things where the pick looks better and better the more research you do?
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't really researching anyone predraft.
This draft proves how hard it all is to predict, and our array of picks wasn’t exciting at the time.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I just don't really know what to think of pre-draft write-ups on prep athletes in the post-Franklin world.
He’s got good hands, and I like the size/athleticism. Draft day’s always for hope anyway….
People are excited based off of name recognition, right?
I fucking hate you Mariners
It's the fourth round and he's still a talented player
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't believe someone that's been talked about so much here today actually got drafted.
Jesus, the man-crushes for a fourth round pick will be epic.
I was a little down on the kid we took last night, but I love the three guys we took today
especially the two arms.
Lefty from University of Kentucky
drafted in supplemental round last year, but turned down a big bonus to return to school. UK then pushed him out due to some concerns about improper contact between his ‘advisor’ (Scott Boras) and an MLB front office.
So he went to indie league ball.
In his junior year, he was a dominant strikeout pitcher whose ERA/RA looked sort of mediocre. Combo of GBs and tons of Ks look great for pro ball, however.
Right. Paxton and his lawyers interpret this as getting screwed by his college, but everything's open to interpretation.
In any event, we drafted him, he’s got a great arm, yay.
So Paxton decided to go back to school and because of that fell 3 rounds?
Did he suck this last year?
There was a dispute with the NCAA
so he couldn’t pitch for Kentucky. He went to the Indy leagues and did just ok.
Paxton.
Game over man. Game over.

by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
But either JY or marc w - This probably needs its own post.
Do you think it possible that any of this power output from our minor leaguers has to do with the new workout they’re forced to do?
Yes.
They’re tweaking swings too as far as the leverage they get.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Basically, it's a different kind of swing they're after now.
Early Saunders, that was kind of the old regime, guys who look great but never hit for the type of power you expect. Ackley would be the new regime, some guy who doesn’t pass the eye test of the power hitter, but can do it anyway. They did a whole study on this.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember the video about using Ackley as the best swing example and Saunders the worst.
Hopefully Saunders took to this. But it still seems like he has a vertical hitch in his swing.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 8, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
He also seems super-wristy in his swing - almost like Cal Ripkin Jr.
But Cal was one of the only guys to make a swing like that work. I wonder if Saunders can.
Personally, I'd guess that has more to do with it.
There’s no way they did enough in a few months of off-season work to change Franklin’s body such that he could produce this much power with his old swing. This is about the swing, but that tells you that the player development folks did good work, and that’s potentially more important.
Or conversly do you think it's messed up our ML players?
Since they’re already set in their ways.
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
They weren't required to use the program.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
No, they weren't.
It was optional, most didn’t.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I can tell.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
Kotchman?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 8, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Emphasis on the "most didn't" and that's why he's being benched for Carp
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 8, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Garin Cecchini, Jesse Hahn, or Kris Bryant
Cecchini was in many people’s top 50’s and has only dropped so far because of injury.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
haha I was waiting for the first post like this
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't become a big baseball fan until I saw Mike Cameron rob that Jeter homer in 2000.
That and I was born the year Trout pitched for Seattle.
Red Sox got Cecchini.
I WANTED Cecchini!
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Keith Law's chat
Justin (Seattle)
James Paxton has got to sign this year, doesn’t he? Wouldn’t it be a disaster for his career if he didn’t? Great draft by the M’s though!
Klaw
Yes, can’t see him going back a third time. He should sign quick and get out in pro ball ASAP.
Woohoo!
I asked Keith how excited I should be for Paxton "on a scale of 1 to Jason Churchill"
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
mlbtraderumors: Mariners announced they have signed RHP Scott Patterson to a minor league contact out of the Atlantic League.
He’s 30 and that’s all I know. Anyone else know anything about this fella?
That's what they said about
BOBBY MOTHERFUCKING MADRITSCH
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
According to Wikipedia, he is a switch pitcher.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Then I love him.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
But he is not actually.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Then I don't.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
Hah, they almost did this a year or two ago.
He was a great reliever in the Yankees org a year or two ago, and played on the M’s (et al) affiliate in the Venezuelan Winter league.
Lot of strikeouts.
Very, very high arm slot, sort of deceptive, thus gets a lot more K's than his raw stuff would indicate.
Different means of getting to a deceptive delivery, but deception + undrafted +indie league vet = poor man’s Sherrill?
We're probably taking Joc Pederson.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty good yeah.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
They'd better pick him because I premptively did the write-up.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
The last two things I did that for
was us trading for Brignac and us re-signing Branyan.
Yikes.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Good plan.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing it's under 30 words
“Today the Mariners traded Cliff Lee. We got some prospects back.”
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Walks?
That would be pretty uncharacteristic.
by Eyeball Kid on Jun 8, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
We're all worse off never seeing Graham's piece:
“Jeff Clement-All Star Catcher”
I fucking hate you Mariners
Endocrine disruptor
avoid it if you can, don’t drink bottled water.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
The M's are probably sad about the Royals taking Jason Adam.
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They always screw us over and take our players
I MEAN, REMEMBER TUG HULETT?!
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
The Red Sox steal all of our utility players.
Bill Hall, Tuglett…
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was blanking on the last name.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Beltre turned down 3 years, 24 million for 1 year and 10.
Looking pretty smart right now.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, the draft.
1000 players taken.. hopes for each player ranging from minimal to significant…
7 2010 Mariners drafted by M’s:
Rob Johnson
Adam Moore
Matt Tuiasosopo
Michael Saunders
Doug Fister
Mark Lowe
Shawn Kelley
Ms drafted plenty of players in the Majors
you can’t look only at the ones still on the team
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
My point is that we are looking at them and wondering what their future with this organization is.
Not that they don’t have value. You aren’t looking at Paxton and saying “Can’t wait to trade him to the Pirates”
It’s pretty common though. The White Sox have 3 2010 players they drafted: Beckham, Lucy, and Buerhle.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Buerhle?
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
I KNEW I'd laughed at that name before
Dickie Thon Jr., son of Dickie Thon who played in the 80’s.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Dickie Thon getting beaned by Torres was one of the scariest things I saw as a kid.
Like, way scarier than Mt. St. Helens.
He was never the same, though.
Too bad. At one time the Majors were loaded with great Shortstops. He was right up there with Ripken and Trammel and ARod.
All the players we've drafted have had boring names.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Taijuan Walker? Ryne Stanek?
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Marcus Littlewood was ambiguously black or white
and what about Taijuan Walker?
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Taiwan is a cool name
Not as cool as the Cubs last pick, Matthew Szczur.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that pronounced like Scuzzer?
Or Scissor?
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
He needs to buy a vowel.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
I don't care if we draft 20 John Smiths as long as they're good players.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
We will never sign a Latin player with the last name Bastardo.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Ian Kendall is a whitey white name.
by Eyebrows on Jun 8, 2010 11:09 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Awesome. Matt Szczur to the Cubs.
Why is this awesome? Cause he won’t be playing football for Villanova next year and can’t eat my Grizzlies alive again in the finals…
He might not sign.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Let me dream!
It’s better this way than wishing injury on someone, eh?
by ExiledToSoCal on Jun 8, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously I'm sick of it being rubbed in my face by these kids.
I sucked at all sports, they can play at the college level at least in two.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
That's why I played Red Alert for the UoMontana College Gaming Team.
by ExiledToSoCal on Jun 8, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do they have scholarships for things like this?
Maybe I’ll go to college
If they had, I probably wouldn't have run out of cash and never graduated...
The fact that I was gaming a lot had nothing to do with it.
by ExiledToSoCal on Jun 8, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Well we all wanted pitchers last year
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 11:10 AM PDT reply actions
Steven Prior?
Huh.
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*Stephen Pryor
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
"We think he is a redraft..."
Might be my favorite intro ever.
Maybe.
I think of him as a continuation of the Mark Lowe, Stephen Kahn tradition, hopefully with better health.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Bigger and less goofy looking.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I make the comp because he throws really hard.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
We're going to build a team of giants around Chone Figgins.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Baseball America says:
Tennessee Tech closer Stephen Pryor has emerged as one of the hardest throwers in the draft and was expected to go in the sixth-to-10th round range, but he may have jumped up draft boards by hitting several 98s on radar guns in a matchup against Middle Tennessee State and probable first-rounder Bryce Brentz. Pryor gave up a home run but struck out two and showed off his power stuff and sturdy 6-foot-4, 235-pound frame in front of an assortment of scouting directors, assistant general managers and even some GMs who were in to evaluate Brentz. While Pryor is just 3-3, 5.04, he’s also struck out 57 in 30 innings, including Jacksonville State prospect Todd Cunningham during one extended outing when he recorded all nine of his outs via strikeout.
by Eyebrows on Jun 8, 2010 11:13 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Sturdy.....
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
Pudgy?
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
Yes he did.
They’re having a dispute about him not playing baseball this summer so he can focus on football.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
Well he's not about to give up that 1st round (top 10) NFL contract
Could be #1 even
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
He'd be a baseball project.
In football he’s a legit prospect.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
Seriously he's going to get 10 times as much guaranteed money at least.
And after he pulls a JaMarcus, he’ll be back in baseball in no time.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
He won't pull a JaMarcus.
He’s actually willing to put in efffort.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
He used to always stay in the weight room after his class left in highschool and lift weights with my class.
Jake or JaMarcusaurus?
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
But Rick Mirer was bad
JaMarcus Russell at least had talent
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
300 pounds of talent.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
I think you're correct.
He wasn’t as bad as he seemed.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
It was kinda sad to see all that talent wasted.
I think Oakland was his main problem.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
It's not like they passed on Calvin Johnson, or Joe Thomas, or Adrian Peterson or anything.
Oh wait, you HAVE to take a QB first. You’d think of all the times the Raiders did exactly the opposite of what you’re supposed to do, this would be the one time they decided to do the typical thing and draft a QB first. Raiders were the problem, JaMarcus was the problem. They all suck.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Obviously JaMarcus was the problem he was a lazy fuck that never did anything.
I’m saying the Oakland environment probably contributed to it.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
It sure didn't help.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
God the Raiders are bad.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I know,
ain’t it cool?
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
It's freaking awesome.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
John Friese!!!
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
Has LaSorda been doing the Dodgers picks?
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Why, did he pick a bacon cheeseburger, large fry and a chocolate shake?
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
by Thingray on Jun 8, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I haven't been paying attention.
But Tommy Lasorda is uniquely hilarious as a conference call voice.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
The world needs more Lasorda.
And he’s working hard to give it to us.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
I thought the rumor was that the Dodgers are intentionally punting picks
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Deglan aside, the Rangers haven't really impressed me yet.
And they probably overdrafted Deglan.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Jay, who would you have drafted if you were the GM of the M's and they still had their first round pick?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Ooh going for the controversial pick I see.
I think this is where we say, “Thats why you’re not the GM.”
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I would have crawled into the corner and cried because the Rays just drafted Sale at #17 and we had #18.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I loved a lot of the picks that came up in the second round, for whatever that's worth.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
He asked what you would have done, not what you did.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't cry because I like the Rays.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yes there is that.
So best draft so far?
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Best draft outside of us because we fucking rule.
may be the bias talking.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Bias? Nah.
I do like the Rays though. And apparently they like the NW.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't realize that Rays didn't sign their first pick last year.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
LeVon Washington, as I remember.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
LeVon...
LeVon likes his money.
by edgar is good on Jun 8, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You gotta think that the Red Sox and Pittsburgh have been the headliners of the draft
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Red Sox are also gonna have to pay out the ass for all their draft picks.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
They won't sign everyone
But they have a lot of talent to work with
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
They can :(.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
This is a problem for them?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Blue Jays and Angels?
Just by quantity. And Nationals of course.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
We got Harper, Strasburg and Ackley
what more could you want?
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Pittsburgh has to develop a pitcher at some point.
Red Sox have been doing pretty damned well though.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Do we ever!
They’re in the midst of a five-minute break.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
What if the mlb.tv guys have to use the bathroom?
Seems like they don’t get a break.
OrehGONE
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wow whitesox voice
That guy sounds like a zombie.
Bad connection.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey Andy Sisco got drafted again.
Wait, wrong Andrew Sisco.
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Holy fuck the Rays just got better.
They took Hahn.
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Nothing is for sure this early.
But that’s what he seems to be.
I don't think it is.
Considering how runs our terrible defensive catchers have cost us.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 8, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I know nothing about this guy
did we just draft another all glove catcher?
The 6th round in baseball is like the 18th round in football.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess I should have said "yeah" first.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Just what are you trying to say
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not quite sure yet what you're getting at...
What’s your point?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Boy did we.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Reading a new report that he;s all glove
and legs that go on for days
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
We drafted a catcher?
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Another Hawaiian no less.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Where does Hawaiian fall on that spectrum?
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
From HI, going with option C.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Howlie is basically the same as white, but sunburnt
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Z knows something we don't.
Right?
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He knows he loves his all-glove catchers!
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I want those kids from Freakonomics, Orangejello and Lemonjello to get drafted someday
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Is this urban legend?
I just found this.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
My mom taught kids named Oranjelo and Lemonjelo.
This was not an especially uncommon occurrence.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 8, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
The funny thing is that in the urban legend page it tells me that one day someone will tell me that their mom taught kids with these names.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Go visit an elemntary school in the inner-city south.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 8, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
If you search Intelius the name Lemonjello apparently comes up 3 times and Oranjello one time.
Oranjello and Lemonjello Snicket in Georgia. I wouldn’t be surprised if that literally was the only one. Up until this very day I was telling people I heard about these twins in Washington that went by this name and laughed my ass off.. Now, I’m not convinced it to be true.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't know you could draft Final Fantasy characters
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 8, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Holy fuck.
Did he go to MEHS?
Middle Earth High School.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
That is a fantastic name.
That is like a 99th percentile name.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Why am I still following this?
Very few impact players will be drafted from here on out… then you had the ‘99 draft where Pujols was a 13th rounder and Jake Peavy was a 14th rounder. So maybe that’s why.
There's no way of projecting that type of stuff though.
The MLB draft is a total crapshoot.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
So eight years from now you can say 'OMG I REMEMBER HIM GETTING DRAFTED AND NOT CARING!!'
by seattlebruin on Jun 8, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Still... what would there have been to gain if you were following the draft then?
You would have known he would be Albert Pujols?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Whitesox need someone new ASAP
that guy is dying.
No shit. That was ugly.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Bwoston College is it?
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Who was saying we had stupid names so far?
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I take it all back.
Maguire Wiswall is a fantastic name.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
We're just going to start calling him Wizzle Wozzle pretty much immediately.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn another black or white pick.
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"Throw"?
I don’t know. But when your draft budget is “zero” it makes it tough.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
God that organization is in shambles.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
A high profile divorce will do that.
Once the divorce is over they should have more freedom to act sensibly.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
Yeah, I'd hate to be in the playoff race with Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes they have some nice parts right now.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Virgin islands.
Cool.
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JABARI. BLASH.
This guy is begging to get a rum-based mixed drink named after him.
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Now I wonder if he is black or white.
Tough one.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You're really fascinated with that, aren't you?
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
I was looking for the blackest name ever.
I think I found it.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I know a white guy name Reggie as weird as that sounds.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy shit I forgot he was white.
Damn.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats a pretty good one.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He's black.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm tempted to start work on a Sean Connery 'Funk Blasht' .gif in preparation.
by Eyeball Kid on Jun 8, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh god that is excellent.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That's definitely not Lasorda for the Dodgers.
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WOODINVILLE!
Luke Taylor
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Mariners really like drafting Woodinville kids.
3 now since I’ve been following.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Washington guy, cool.
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He's committed to Hawaii
No idea.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 8, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Since it was the Mariners probably a lot better chance.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
So no.
Hawaii isn’t the best baseball school.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 8, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He's still young.
"Because 100 luftballoons would be far too many"
Two to three years.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He doesn't have a lot of mileage on his arm.
He can take it.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw Kawika Emsley-Pai play in high school
Pretty pretty good
Tyler Burgoon.
Another awesome name.
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So 7 out of 10 pitchers so far.
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Best names ever?
Coco Crisp? Milton Bradley?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
With two T's.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
take that back
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 8, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
So I'm just googling some of these guys and I see our new catcher got expelled for
for his part in the alleged distribution of a pornographic video.
Haha. Oh Keanu
Bahahahaha.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a bad looking pitcher.
Throws high 80s.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
how much projection does he have?
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 8, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Already 200 lbs, not a great deal more.
I’d think of him as more of a guy that they could do some mechanical things with. At this point, there’s nothing that’s going to knock anyone’s socks off.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
So is this a pitcher heavy draft?
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Shows how much I pay attention.
Thanks Jay.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Well the M's are certainly taking a different route than they did last year.
Through 11 picks last year: 3 pitchers.
Through 11 picks this year: 7 pitchers.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah thats why I asked.
Didn’t know if it was just us or a trend.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Also 6 high school players taken.
They didn’t take their 6th high schooler last year untilthe 34th round.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm so it's possible we don't sign a good percentage of these top picks.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Not necessarily.
We got the money to throw around.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you know roughly the percentage of HS players that sign?
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that it's lower than college!
It’s going to vary depending on when guys are picked, and late in the draft, there are a lot of teams that will select top prospects with strong college commitments just for shits, which skews the data pool.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
That makes sense.
Thanks for putting your time into this.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Is the player the Dodgers drafted actually like a blue-chip QB prospect that will definitely star in football?
I heard the Dodgers claim that it wasn’t a punt, but come on… and next years draft is going to be so good, I won’t be surprised if there are a few teams that half-ass their signings if money is tight.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Zach Lee is a possible punt.
He was known to be a strong college commit that had minimal chance of signing. If they don’t get him this year, they’ll get a compensation pick next year.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah thats why I'm thinking that teams will feel they have a bit more leverage than normal because of how strong 2011 is.
Of course, that’s not the goal, but if they feel pressured they may pull back and take their comp pick.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, he's not that great. He's not an elite QB prospect or anything.
Probably like a Top 15 national QB recruit.
Aw I though it was going to be Jacque. We need more French MLBers.
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This is a shitty day for the SBNation links on Fangraphs.
Just lots of evaluation for a bunch of players we don’t give a shit about.
Keeping it in the NW.
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Michael Goodnight.
He better be a closer.
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Pierre LePage.
Frenchy.
LHP Jason Markovitz for us.
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It seems they've all been 6'+.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Burgoon wasn't.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
6 foot 240, damn.
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Reasons to be optimistic about the guys currently being drafted:
The chances of making is low, but there are certainly plenty of players that will draw interest over the next few years. Such as these guys are doing now, sure they are flawed but they are interesting. 7th round and later…
2009:
Brian Moran (7th)
James Gillheeney (8th)
Andrew Carraway (12th)
Anthony Vazquez (18th)
John Hesketh (20th)
Brandon Josselyn (25th)
2008:
Nate Tenbrink (7th)
Bobby Laframboise (8th)
Kenn Kasparek (12th)
Blake Nation (22nd)
2007:
Nick Hill (7th)
Shawn Kelley (13th)
2006:
Doug Fister (7th)
Kam Mickolio (18th)
Tyson Gillies (25th)
Most of the guys we drafted last year just seem like orginzational fillers
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 8, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really fair to assume that only a year later
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, and the list of "notables" is going to get shorter every year.
You draft 30+ players every year, you have a 40-man roster, only so many are going to make it.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I personally am high on Moran.
I think being drafted in the 7th round is a good luck charm. Wiswall!
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Kaalekahi
Just excellent names, wow.
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This is so weird.
First Wiswall kinda reminds me of Griswald.
And now Kaalekahi reminds me of the song in Christmas Vacation.
I hope there’s a kid named Chevy in this draft.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
That was hilarious.
Earlier I thought I heard “Jesus this is long”.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
It is long.
It is so long.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure I heard that followed by...
“So that’s where you went last night?”
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I heard that.
They should leave that mic open.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Shipers, not as interesting, but still a fun name.
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So much pitching
Jordan Shipers, LHP. Is this a change of philosophy or just the best players available?
i think it could be a change in philosophy
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 8, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's not forget this is a ridiculous run on high schoolers
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
For sure.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Mr. Yencich, what's your thoughts on Romero?
I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.
I was being nice and Civil about this whole War thing.
Then you had to just shout random offensive statements at me. Those lousy northerners will never learn.
I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.
by thehemogoblin on Jun 8, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This draft
has butt raped a good Horton recruiting class. *uck the *ucks.
GO BEAVS!
Go Beavs, beat the *ucks!
by OBF on Jun 8, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Baseball site. Take it somewhere else.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Uhhh...
the beavers and *ucks both play baseball… In fact the above comment is directly related to the *ucks baseball teams recruits being heavily picked over in the mlb draft, the thing we are currently discussing. Come on, man, keep up.
Go Beavs, beat the *ucks!
by OBF on Jun 8, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh thought you were starting a college football war. Carry on.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah the *ucks suck at football too, glad you brought it up ;)
Go Beavs, beat the *ucks!
by OBF on Jun 8, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, we lost Tyler Matzek last year, so I'm sure it can't be worse than that.
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by thehemogoblin on Jun 9, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
This year's Vinnie Catricala.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't understand.
I wasn’t really following the M’s that closely last year.
I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.
by thehemogoblin on Jun 8, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a third baseman, mediocre power, will walk a bit.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a thread on him on a Missouri State website where he's committed.
They really like him. His stuff is “electric” but the knock on him is the height of course.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Link
Is here. He seems tobe better than your average 16th rounder.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The M's have a great education program
I wonder how effective its been in convincing committed players in the past?
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Helped get us Baron.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, undersized and a lot of effort in the delivery.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The Rays guy was opening a bag of pretzels.
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A non pitcher?
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9 HS players in 16 rounds.
You have to go back to 2003 to find a run on high school players like this for the M’s. That group included Adam Jones, Ryan Feierabend, Eric O’Flaherty, but also a lot of duds.
Jeff Flaig!
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be more appropriate to scream "Casey Craig"
but there were other reasons for his bust.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Was Flaig considered... good? Or signable?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
He was considered to be roughly comparable to Troy Glaus before he fucked up his shoulder.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He's 25 years old now.
He must have really fucked it up. I wasn’t quite following the minors by the time he was out.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Tore the labrum as I recall.
Couldn’t throw well after that, and couldn’t hit for power either.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
By the way, it looks like from the 2003 year we didn't sign (or at least they never played for us) ANYBODY after round 10.
Is that right?
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Inaccurate.
We had everyone up to Scott Maine, then Heid, Craig, Santin, Williams, and a few others.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone know the precentage of players drafted that will actually play for the M's?
Also, what kind of things factor into drafting a player? I know it is not soley based on talent alone but, a lot to do with signabilty. Are the Mariners looking for a paticular skill set when drafting a player? or just the best avaiable talent?
We'll sign thirtiesh players, probably more.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Aww he has a nice smile.
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by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Joining fellow Lobos Bobby LaFromboise and Jonathan Hesketh in the system.
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by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
So Jay,
are you impressed with the draft so far?
Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
How many exclamation marks do you want?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
19 will do I imagine.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm so excited. I just can't hide it. I'm about to lose control and I think I like it?
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jun 8, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I should really close out of the draft window and accomplish something today
Just one more round
I know
I can’t even figure out why I’m still paying attention. I could just a read a recap later. But here I am.
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Frankie Christian is black.
Someone was wondering.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
He's the son of Ben Hur.
That’s gold.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Strasburg's next 4 starts (if he stays on schedule)
Pittsburgh, Cleveland, ChiSox, Baltimore… nothing breeds confidence like playing crappy teams!!!
We'll have a Strasburg thread up soon
but, yeah, he’s getting a soft landing.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 8, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure if this was posted already:
Taijuan Walker Hopes to Get Started
Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
Very cool. Thanks.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Since we're not doing live coverage
I can’t recommend enough Jay’s work at USSM and his own blog.
http://www.marinersminors.com/2010-articles/june/liveblogging-the-ms-10-draft-day-two.html
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 8, 2010 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Another NW Player!
Interesting!
Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
When Jack Zdurenciek was with the Brewers they had a high school and pitching heavy draft in 2003.
In the 2nd round, they drafted hgh schooler Yovani Gallardo.
In the 31st round they drafted Kanekoa Texeira.
It should also be noted that nobody else in that draft has made the majors, except for the 3 at bats of catcher Angel Salome.
McNamara != Zduriencik.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Jun 8, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
M, Z, whatever.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 8, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I brought it up because the names were interesting.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 8, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
If we got a Yovani Gallardo out of this draft
I think just about everyone will call it some kind of a success
by universalguru on Jun 8, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions

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