22-34, Chart
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 6, 2010 4:45 PM PDT
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Biggest Contribution: Ichiro, +18.7%
Biggest Suckfest: Shawn Kelley, -32.8%
Most Important AB: Ichiro double, +21.3%
Most Important Pitch: Napoli homer, -30.5%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -18.9%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -31.1%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
(What is this chart?)
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i respectfully disagree with the suckfest pick
i just got back from the game and man, i REALLY hate tui. can hannahan really be worse? i want him back now.
That's not really something you can disagree with
by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 6, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
So, even though Aardsma gave up three runs, because we were already losing, he is not the biggest suckfest?
Maybe not in terms of this game, but I think we need a way to rate who is the biggest failure in general… our closer has a 5+ era and the worst part is there’s no one who can take over for him. :-(
Unless Guti can pitch AND bat AND play center…
Biggest failure in general?
So you just want something we can pin on Rob Johnson every night. I’m cool with that.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
by the other side on Jun 6, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I think another outfielder has dibs on pitching before Guti.
No matter where you go, there you are.
So Ichiro usually heats up around now, but it seems like he hit full stride really early this year.
We are so spoiled.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
Question for you.....
I looked at the explaination of the chart. Got the win expectancy thing. How do you come up with the Biggest Suckfest, Biggest Contribution, etc? Apologies if I’m missing something obvious.
The people with the largest/least WPA numbers.
...and now I'm here
Click on the "What is this chart?" link.
I didn’t understand the chart the first time I saw it either, but the article explains it in pretty simple terms.
No matter where you go, there you are.
Basically, after you have calculated the numbers, you end up with a chart that looks like this:
http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?date=2010-06-06&team=Mariners&dh=0&season=2010
The person on the top of the list gets “Contribution” the person at the bottom gets “Suckfest.” Jeff has his own chart though so the numbers on Fangraphs don’t always match up.
...and now I'm here
Pretty simple.
Biggest Suckfest = Lowest WPA. Typically negative. Generally the sum of contributions by a player resulting in hurting the team’s chances of winning the most.
Biggest Contribution = Highest WPA. Typically positive. Generally the sum of contributions by a player resulting in helping the team’s chances of winning the most.
Unless we win 3 of 4 and are returned to our state of limbo.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 6, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I still care pretty intensely about this team getting some things figured out.
Such as if we can get Saunders going full speed, if we can sort out the bullpen, if Jason Vargas can continue to be a decent mid-rotation starter, if RRS can get his groove back, and so on.
What I don’t care about is the 2010 championship. That boat’s sailed. We’re not on it.
by eponymous_coward on Jun 6, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I will be wearing M's gear into "enemy" territory in 4 days
So for the time being I’m hovering just above the Tropic.
by lemonverbena on Jun 7, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
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