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Biggest Contribution: King Felix, +42.5%
Biggest Suckfest: Chone Figgins, -9.0%
Most Important AB: Bradley homer, +9.9%
Most Important Pitch: Teixeira double, -5.9%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +42.5%
Total Contribution by Lineup: +7.5%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
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That he did.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Jun 30, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lopez walked today!

…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell

by Marinerfanjake on Jun 30, 2010 9:08 PM PDT reply actions  

What's Rob's bases allowed compared to his total bases now?

I remember when it was like 20 allowed to 19 contributed.

by TWownsU on Jun 30, 2010 9:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate the Yankees so much, that I hope we keep Lee so that he can beat them

again next week at Safeco. Then Felix will beat them again. Then maybe get Bedard to beat them. And Vargas will beat them.

Then we can trade Lee and lose the rest of our games for all I care.

P.S. Saunders is awesome. It’s a great sign that he’s hitting for so much power, even if his OBP sucks so far.

by Rudy4three on Jun 30, 2010 9:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup. Tonight was a very good night. I have no doubt Saunders will bring that batting average and OBP

up with more experience. The power he’s flashing is something we had to see at the ML level.

I actually feel for the first time in awhile that we have a good young position player who is going to be a valuable asset to this team for the next handful of seasons.

by Rudy4three on Jun 30, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I suppose he could get hurt, but Im really content with taking the draft picks if something like

that happens. I haven’t been blown away with some of the names mentioned in possible Lee deals. I’m okay if we just get picks.

by Rudy4three on Jun 30, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think that is totally worth keeping Lee for the rest of the year.

2010 Safeco Field Record: 1-1 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 11-5

by Fin on Jun 30, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be AWESOME!

Although, I’m not sure it’s worth it. Isn’t that just to greedy?

by TrustBaseball on Jun 30, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Assuming Cliff stays for one more start and Bedard is ready...

RRS, Fister, Vargas, Lee, Felix, Bedard is the lineup. So we’ll hopefully get it at least once.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 30, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

on YES, Al Leiter had some pretty good comments.

Basically, his comments were down the lines of “Jack Z is not stupid” and won’t automatically deal him. Al’s view of Cliff’s worth was also pretty high… like 4 really high quality MLB ready prospects, I believe. His view is that offers need to be A LOT higher than the 2 comp picks that the M’s get if he leaves in free agency.

by Henry H on Jun 30, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

No team is going to get hosed in this deal. But is possible for us to get a good deal.

If GMZ gets more than one team involved in the trade, we could end up with more than just a ready-to-go player and a high prospect. Whoever gets Lee obviously will want to part with a subpar SP, which we really don’t need. There are too many scenarios/needs for now and in the future for me to get my head around, but I believe GMZ can probably get maximum value for us and satisfy everyone else involved at the same time.

by TrustBaseball on Jun 30, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we can somehow pluck and pluck from the Rangers farm system, it would be a dream scenario.

They can’t take on salary? Great, it’s 4 million dollars – pay it. We need to deplete the shit out of their future while building up ours.

by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 30, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn't need to be a lot higher than the 2 comp picks.

Lee is worth absolutely nothing to us at this point beyond comp picks.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 30, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lee's value is not dictated by his value to us, its his value to the teams interested in him.

A man with no arms can still sell another guy a pair of gloves for a decent price because there is a market for gloves. Lee is worth more than two picks to us because people will pay more than 2 picks for him.

by Edgar for Pres on Jun 30, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just pointing out his comments.

Not commenting necessarily on the relative “correctness” of Al’s comments. You are also getting a half season of ticket revenues and probable wins during his starts. His view seems to be that Lee is potentially the one elite difference maker for some teams (there is no other person available in this class). I suppose a way to look at it whether any team on the cusp of the playoffs believes it is worth mortgaging their future to win this year.

by Henry H on Jun 30, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of commentators and radio guys think we're going to hit a gold mine.

I heard Michael Kay on the radio today state we were getting four great prospects that would revamp our organization.

However, he then later started pondering whether the Mets could get Lee and Figgins, and we’d get Luis Castillo…

I think we’d all be happy getting one real good prospect and a couple of guys who could be average regulars

by Rudy4three on Jun 30, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every time I listen to Michael Kay

I can’t decide who I want to punch in the head, me or Michael Kay.

Every time you masturbate... God kills a kitten? Fuck kittens.

by Matt Erickson on Jul 1, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Z does some interesting things

Maybe he goes totally off the board and does something like dealing him to the Yomiuri Giants for the rights to every child named Ichiro born in Japan for the next 20 years…

by Henry H on Jun 30, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

He better

Seeing Lee at the ASG in another uniform (or pitching for another league!) would suck.

by Drew_D on Jun 30, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has this happened before?

Does anyone know if an All Star player was dealt before the game, however they only played a few or no games with a new team? An obscure question, but I’ve been thinking about it recently.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on Jun 30, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, think you might be wrong

Pitchers are selected by the managers of the teams. Thus, they probably can select whoever they want.

by Henry H on Jun 30, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Close.

I believe pitchers are selected by player voting, however the manager may also add a pitcher as part of his selections. I’m pretty sure Charlie Manuel would select Cliff “I corn holed the Yankees in the world series for you” Lee for his All Star squad.

by Drew_D on Jun 30, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't Sabbathia?

Or was he traded after the break?

by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 30, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't make the All-Star team that year.

Strange, I wonder how many Cy Youngs weren’t All-Stars.

From my understanding, if the roster were to be chosen after the trade, Lee would pitch in his new team’s uni. If the roster were chosen with Lee as a Mariner, then he was traded before the game, he would play the game as a Mariner.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 30, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff Shaw

“[Shaw] was selected to the 1998 All Star Game as a member of the Cincinnati Reds, but was traded to the Los Angeles Dodgers at the beginning of the All Star break, thus his first game he pitched in a Dodger uniform was in the 1998 All Star Game.” Infallible Source

by apunetid on Jul 1, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has there been a more enjoyable game this year?

We got two condor homes, a muscle sex blast and a dominant Felix performance at Yankee stadium.

by houseofprime on Jun 30, 2010 9:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Homes sounds gangster.

Although I’m probably too white to comment.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines

by the other side on Jun 30, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Park Effects

Safeco Field hurts our hitting more than it helps our pitching.
Yankee Stadium aids or hitting more than it hurts our pitching.

Is this postulate correct?

by lokiforever on Jun 30, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Cliff Lee and Felix. Safeco really benefits the Vargas and Fister types who get results like
  1. and #3 starters due to Safeco and our defense. I would not feel comfortable with either of those guys lasting long at Yankees Stadium.

by Rudy4three on Jun 30, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why I am scared for RRS.

I have images of the Yankees lineup having Batting Practice with him tomorrow.

2010 Safeco Field Record: 1-1 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 11-5

by Fin on Jun 30, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stan Verret called Saunders

The vice president of run support.

…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell

by Marinerfanjake on Jun 30, 2010 10:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Fucking Mariners

If you bastards had played to your normal levels we would be having a completely different conversation now. It’s not Wak’s fault, it’s not Sleepy Griffey’s fault, it’s your fault. I’m looking at you Figgins. And you Bradley, you headcase sombitch. And definitely you Kotchman, you goddamn screwface double play machine. Lopez, fuck off and go away. Johnson, eat shit and die. White, you are terrible. League, throw the damn splitter. Wak is far from blameless and yes, they’ve been unlucky. But mostly they sucked. They sucked and now it’s going to cost us Cliff Mother Fucking Lee and equal a shit-ton of meaningless summer baseball.

I have departed the Tropic of Cairo and entered the Realm of What the Fuck. I am annoyed.

by lemonverbena on Jun 30, 2010 10:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   6 recs

HOW DID NO ONE SEE THIS GAME

IT WAS SOOO GOOD.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Jun 30, 2010 11:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I saw the game.

And you are completely right.

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Jun 30, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I listened to it from work

When Saunders went yard for the second time I almost spilled toxics on myself.

by Drew_D on Jun 30, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was there.

So neener neener neener!

(Made even sweeter because I was accompanied by a friend who’s a huge Yanks fan.)

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Jul 1, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus Christ, Jeff

That picture made my heart skip a beat. I thought Felix had finally done it and I’d missed it :(

by Eyeball Kid on Jun 30, 2010 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

A couple more wins and the Mariners go from bottom-feeders to a sub-.500 team.

It seems to be consensus here that Cliff Lee is gone, but I really hope the Mariners bust their asses to keep Cliff here for the rest of the year, I really want to see him stay.

2010 Safeco Field Record: 1-1 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 11-5

by Fin on Jul 1, 2010 12:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Games like this make me want to rec everything.

Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Batting 4-for-9 with 1 SB, 1 R, 1 RBI for Rocky Diablos, PSSBL. Next game 7/5.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jul 1, 2010 3:15 AM PDT reply actions   3 recs

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