WHY DO THEY ALWAYS GET BETTER
Didn't mean to bump Matthew's series preview below.
A review of Mariners who have become ex-Mariners over the past two years:
Cha Seung Baek: Traded to San Diego. Made 20 standard Cha Baek starts, got hurt, disappeared. Still has no reason to smile. Not better.
Wladimir Balentien: Traded to Cincinnati. Was okay, then lost his job. Demoted to AAA, where his OPS is under .700. Not better.
Miguel Batista: Signed with Washington, where he has more walks than strikeouts in relief. That the Nationals are rebuilding makes this doubly hilarious. Not better.
Adrian Beltre: Dominating in Boston with 33 extra-base hits and his usual defense, albeit with a few errors thrown in. Becoming popular for hating when Victor Martinez touches his head. Predictably better.
Yuniesky Betancourt: Still a worthless pile of crap. Not better.
Willie Bloomquist: Has batted .255 with Kansas City, and is now 32 years old. It's never happening, Willie. Not better.
Russell Branyan: Now healthy, or at least healthier, he's doing exactly what he did when he was healthy in Seattle. Nice to see that his contact rate is still elevated. Not better.
Jamie Burke: Also in Washington, also contributing nothing. Not better.
Eric Byrnes: I don't know where to find his softball stats, nor do I know how to translate them to the bigs. Not better.
Miguel Cairo: Man, we've had a lot of bad players. When people wonder aloud why players always get better when they leave, it probably isn't players like Miguel Cairo those people have in mind. Not better. Oh man. So not better. Who would even care if he were?
Ronny Cedeno: Has a .288 OBP since going to Pittsburgh, and owns a flashy .601 2010 OPS. This is embarrassing. Better.
Jeff Clement: Got a shot with Pittsburgh and batted .189. No longer a catcher, and no longer in the bigs. Not better.
Roy Corcoran: Hanging out with Tommy Everidge. Not better. Hey, Everidge went 3-4 in his first game with Round Rock. That's neat.
R.A. Dickey: Currently 6-0 with a 2.33 ERA over seven starts in New York. He's a knuckleballer with a 2.5 K/BB. He was nothing a year ago with the Twins, but what's this? Progress? Sure, why not. Better.
Sean Green: Not better.
Ken Griffey Jr.: Couldn't be worse. Still, not better.
Bill Hall: Been an adequate fill-in for Boston, but he still hasn't been good, and his entire season is being held up by one 4-5 game. Better.
Tug Hulett: Currently OPS'ing .599 with Pawtucket after consecutive big years in AAA. Not going to help him get that chance he probably deserved. Not better.
Raul Ibanez: Incredible '09 first half, bad '09 second half, bad '10 second half. Hello there, age. It's about God damn time. We've been expecting you for like seven years. Not better.
Chris Jakubauskas: Jakubauskas threw 12 pitches for the Pirates and got hit in the head. Not better.
Charlton Jimerson: Here because he came to the plate one time for the Mariners in 2008. Guess how many times he's come to the plate in the big leagues since? Not better.
Kenji Johjima: Kenji could be slugging 9.000 and I wouldn't care because when people ask why players always get better when they leave, they don't mean the players that go to Japan. Not better.
Bryan LaHair: Just another LaHairverage year for Bryan with AAA Iowa. Prospects LaHairdly look good, and until he starts sending more balls Lahairborne, he'll continue to be LaHairdinary. Not better.
Randy Messenger: Apparently landed in Japan. Hopefully they didn't let him disembark. Not better.
Brandon Morrow: Has increased his grounders, has increased his strikeouts, and has decreased his walks. Morrow isn't an ace, but he's on the right path, as Toronto reaps the benefits of sticking him in the rotation and leaving him be. Better.
Mike Morse: Having a lot of success in a small sample in 2010 after not having a lot of success in a small sample in 2009. Still nothing but a bat-first role player. Not better.
Greg Norton: Did you know that Greg Norton holds the all-time record for most consecutive games with a double play, with six? Did you know that Greg Norton's middle name is Blakemoor? Greg Norton is an interesting guy. An interesting guy who didn't get better.
Eric O'Flaherty: O'Flaherty's bounced back from injuries to turn himself into a useful, regular LOOGY. He's made 113 appearance since the start of 2009, which is about 113 more appearances than I realized he'd made. Better.
J.J. Putz: Awful and hurt in 2009, healthy and awesome in 2010. Still, we'd already seen him at his peak. Not better.
Jeremy Reed: Blows. Not better.
Arthur Rhodes: Rhodes was surprising at 38, and he remains surprising at 40, as he's taken his act to the National League and put himself on the verge of snapping the Reds' franchise record for consecutive scoreless innings. He's the same guy, though. Not better.
Richie Sexson: I completely forgot that Richie Sexson wound up with the Yankees for a little bit. It didn't work. Not better.
Chris Shelton: Injured and competing with Tommy Everidge for playing time in AAA Round Rock. I can't believe that he and Mike Carp both exist and aren't related. Not better.
Carlos Silva: Suddenly quite good. Did you know that? I know, me neither. I can't believe no one ever bothered to tell us. Better.
Kanekoa Texeira: Same stuff, improved results with Kansas City. Eh, better.
Justin Thomas: In 2009, Thomas became a lefty specialist who walked too many lefties. In 2010, he's become a lefty specialist who doesn't walk anyone. Still in AAA, but he's only 26, and all of a sudden he's got a shot at a career. Better.
Luis Valbuena: Sucked, recently sent back to AAA. This has not gone how I imagined it would. Not better.
Jose Vidro: It seems Jose Vidro has yet to formally retire. Amanda Bynes retired before Jose Vidro did. Not better.
Jarrod Washburn: The very definition of "always" requires one to have completely forgotten about Jarrod Washburn, who pitched out of his mind just long enough to bring back two arms (four arms?) before falling apart and not getting signed. Not better.
Jared Wells: Not better.
Brad Wilkerson: Very not better.
Jake Woods: It takes a lot for a 28 year old lefty with Major League experience to get released by a team in the minors. Jake Woods found a way. Not better.
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So, to review, of 42 players, the following nine got better after they left:
Adrian Beltre
Ronny Cedeno
R.A. Dickey
Bill Hall
Brandon Morrow
Eric O'Flaherty
Carlos Silva
Kanekoa Texeira
Justin Thomas
Cedeno, though, is still bad. Hall isn't anything special. O'Flaherty, Texeira, and Thomas are all mediocre relievers, and though Dickey's stepped it up, we'll need a lot more evidence before we declare that he's actually turned himself into a quality arm. And as for Beltre, I think we all saw this coming. He's better, yes, but he's healthy now, and he's out of what was arguably the worst possible ballpark for his skillset. He was an obvious choice to have a big, productive season.
So that leaves Morrow and Silva as the recent sources of frustration. And these two seem rather easy to explain. Morrow has made gains because he's no longer getting tossed around between roles. And Silva's made gains because he's completely changed the way he pitches. Under the watchful eye of Larry Rothschild, he's abandoned his old sinker-heavy approach in favor of an actual pitch mix that makes people miss.
I know it's annoying to see players flourish somewhere else. I know it just makes you wonder why they couldn't do it with the Mariners. But this is a phenomenon that is altogether infrequent. Even with the younger talent. Clement certainly hasn't gotten better. Balentien hasn't gotten better. Betancourt isn't doing anything, and if we expand our window, Adam Jones is frustrating everybody in Maryland.
The Mariners aren't cursed. So over the past few years, some guys like Morrow and Silva and Shin-soo Choo and Joel Pineiro have found success in other places. Well, the M's got Franklin Gutierrez. They got David Aardsma. They got Jason Vargas. Players aren't static. Players get better, and players get worse. You just notice the things that annoy you, because the human brain thrives on annoyance. Deal with it.
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If the Mariners were cursed you'd be able to coast, from a writing perspective
If worked for Shaughnessy! Get to inventing a curse.
You guys
Can have him back and maybe break your “curse.” Maybe give him Jr’s pillow and he won’t bother anyone, but maybe just his presence will help…
"There is no tomorrow for you, and that makes you very dangerous people."--Jimmy McGinty (Gene Hackman) The Replacements
Time is an illusion--lunch time doubly so.
God Damn Billy Swift.
Also, Jose Lopez will hit 40 HR for the White Sox in 2012. Bet on it.
by Manzanillos Cup on Jun 25, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions
They allowed Randy Messenger to disembark in Japan
He promptly screamed, waved his little arms around, blew fire, and ate Tokyo.
~Garrett Olson is my secret boyfriend~
by section331 on Jun 25, 2010 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I fucking hated the way Messenger wore his hat.
by MikeCarp'sNose on Jun 25, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Flat brim, right? Cocked to the side if I remember?
That look doesn’t do anyone any favors.
~Garrett Olson is my secret boyfriend~
With lots of helicopters and kamikaze fly-bys
pewpewpewpew!!!
~Garrett Olson is my secret boyfriend~
That Beltre .gif rules
A good part of me believes he really did go bat-shit crazy on Martinez and Scutaro
I'd love to know the story behind that .gif. That's hilarious.
He looks like he misses Lopez and Felix so much that he’s just angry at EVERYBODY!
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 25, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It first came out in a game at Baltimore
"I don’t like anybody to touch my head, and he knows it. He does it on purpose," said Beltre. "So I’m not responsible for everything that happens after that."
"A couple years ago I had 60 at-bats, I was hitting .170, everyone was ready to kill me too. What happened? Laser show." Dustin Pedroia
by bloodysock04 on Jun 25, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It held me entranced
I must have watched it loop 20 times, filled with wonder and confusion
Can someone link said GIF?
I seem to have missed it.
Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle
The first rule of Lookout Landing is...
by appleshampoo on Jun 25, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
With Rhodes, it's hard to improve on his 01-02 seasons.
This year he’s pretty close though. .806 WHIP is sick.
Just as sort of an FYI
WHIP is pretty much a junk stat. Take a look at FIP or tRA, much better stats for pitchers.
If that's Mike Carp's nose and not with Mike Carp, how does Mike Carp smell?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 25, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He had a 2.14 FIP and accumulatd 2.5 WAR in 68 innings of work
Combined with a memory of when I was 11 years old, he seemed to be pretty damn good
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Jun 25, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
He gave up 1 run while striking out 3 and walking 0 in 4 2/3 IP
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by Griffin Cooper on Jun 25, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I was 9 years old and I don't remember anything about the '01 playoffs but you can't say he was bad in 2001 based on 1 run, no matter how important
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by Griffin Cooper on Jun 25, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Crap I'm old.
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Did anything like this ever come up in Seattle?
Regarding people touching his head
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Not that I recall....
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
I will always love and cherish the memories of Adrian Beltre.
Especially when he hit that homerun on one knee.
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
It's 3 HRs on one knee
Video link 1
Video link 2
Video link 3
"A couple years ago I had 60 at-bats, I was hitting .170, everyone was ready to kill me too. What happened? Laser show." Dustin Pedroia
by bloodysock04 on Jun 25, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
It's weird, it's like his back foot just bails out on him.
But it seems to work, so…
"If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you."
Eric Byrnes was an analyst on MLB Tonight last night
He was hilariously awkward with the rest of the crew.
Good point about the M's also experiencing the positive side
of player improvement. My complaint is that for too many years we saw players come in who should be able to provide a certain level of production (Cirillo, Aurilia, Colburn, etc..) and for whatever reason as a group they absolutely implode.
It might be irrational, but when your franchise is built around plugging gaping wounds with predictable production from established veterans, the impact of said veterans not only underachieving but (arguably) performing worse than random AAAA filler is traumatic on the fans.
Then you’ve got the problem of consistently below average farm production (everywhere except the bullpen, which is a notable strength of this club’s last decade) for the major league club. Or at least the perception of such.
If you wrap yourself in daffodils, I will wrap myself in pain.
And if you're the queen of California, baby I am the king of the rain.
I can verify
the suckitude of Jeremy Reed. I saw him “play” tonight—he’s with the Blue Jays AAA team here in Vegas. He added precisely nothing to this game specifically and the game of baseball in general.
"There is no tomorrow for you, and that makes you very dangerous people."--Jimmy McGinty (Gene Hackman) The Replacements
Time is an illusion--lunch time doubly so.
Love the caption!
You don’t get enough credit for these. Though, it’s “Chehalis”, not “Chahelis”.
Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.

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